Unify Action - October 02, 2026


They Blamed The Free Market For Everything - My Response Had Them Scrambling

Hosted by
Sarah Dotzert
Mentioned
Elon Musk
He Thinks He's Poor Because Of ＂The Rich＂ - Until I Said This

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00:00:00.000 Finding jobs in any field is nigh impossible. 0.98
00:00:02.960 That's definitely true in Canada.
00:00:04.440 Certainly more true in America.
00:00:05.880 My dad has world-renowned chef training.
00:00:08.560 He can't get into kitchen.
00:00:09.860 He is a teacher of culinary studies.
00:00:11.340 That's in Canada, right?
00:00:12.380 Uh-huh.
00:00:12.680 And we have a shrinking economy.
00:00:14.020 Point.
00:00:16.180 You need some kind of moral training,
00:00:18.420 some kind of placement to know what is right, what is wrong,
00:00:23.640 what is good for the people.
00:00:25.020 Okay.
00:00:25.960 Like, what, can I ask what moral training,
00:00:28.120 what morals are we going to teach people?
00:00:30.000 like we have to have like a specific standard like what standard selfishness should be weaned
00:00:36.820 out i think i think that as a politician your role is not to be a politician i've i've thought
00:00:43.380 of this personally this is a personal philosophy that i have is that i think that being a politician
00:00:47.560 should not be a beneficial role like once you get out of being like a politician you should be in a
00:00:53.080 massive amount of debt okay i think that it needs to have a sacrifice because that will wean out
00:00:58.180 the people that are selfish that'll be not the people that want that benefit if you if you become 0.96
00:01:02.680 prime minister and you come out you're richer than you started fucking everyone's going to try and do 0.98
00:01:07.780 that but if you come out and you're a ruined husk of a person like engineering at like university 0.98
00:01:14.240 of waterloo like if you come out broken i think that will deter more people and only the people
00:01:21.600 that want to do the best for everyone else will try and take that power right for me this doesn't
00:01:25.780 seem particularly feasible because we're saying
00:01:27.680 we'll give the government a huge amount of power
00:01:29.740 power over a huge amount
00:01:31.760 of finances and then we're expecting
00:01:33.700 them to not somehow
00:01:35.220 take any of that money
00:01:37.060 it's a balancing act
00:01:39.640 but like how do we prevent it
00:01:41.360 like I still
00:01:42.900 you told me honesty and education
00:01:46.040 will prevent dictators
00:01:47.280 and critical thinking but like that is
00:01:49.800 not actually a system that would prevent
00:01:51.580 a dictator. I think it will
00:01:53.580 because the more educated people are
00:01:55.720 the more willing they are to show humility generosity there's there's studies i can't
00:02:01.100 point to them but i know they exist my both my parents are teachers so i'm coming from
00:02:05.520 an education background and better education correlates to better social services uh and
00:02:15.060 better government look at like well canada actually has the best education system right now
00:02:20.280 and we're doing pretty all right we're doing pretty all right like in comparison to the rest
00:02:25.120 the world canada's doing pretty good i mean we're the only economy in like the g7 that is actually
00:02:31.900 in like technical depression not necessarily well i would not the u.s is not technically
00:02:38.820 in the depression but i would not say that their economy is very healthy right now no it's it's
00:02:43.820 it's sitting on a bed of straw like they are certainly the growing the most of any of the
00:02:48.580 other countries it is built entirely on ai and it's also if okay it's also built on money that
00:02:54.720 doesn't exist yet the stock like the stock trade it's built on money that theoretically exists
00:03:01.600 they're trading things that don't actually exist yet and then if that thing crashes everything's
00:03:06.000 fucked like if microsoft decides hey we're actually gonna start making play-doh now
00:03:10.600 their entire economy would collapse right because they are like their like factories are going up 0.97
00:03:18.180 and jobs are being created, right?
00:03:21.260 A lot of people are being fired, though.
00:03:23.460 There have been record amounts of layoffs within a lot of these tech companies.
00:03:27.540 And finding jobs in any field is nigh impossible.
00:03:31.780 Okay, that's definitely true in Canada, for sure.
00:03:35.400 Certainly more true in America.
00:03:37.180 It's worse over there.
00:03:38.040 Their unemployment hasn't really changed, but they've had mass firings,
00:03:41.880 which means that people are just simply switching jobs.
00:03:45.120 People are forced into lower paying wages.
00:03:48.180 If they're, like, they're very skilled labor, then they're going to be able to get good.
00:03:54.680 I wouldn't say that's true.
00:03:56.760 My dad has world-renowned chef training.
00:03:59.780 Okay.
00:04:00.560 He can't get into kitchens.
00:04:02.420 He is a teacher.
00:04:04.860 Okay.
00:04:05.500 He is a teacher of culinary studies.
00:04:07.000 That's in Canada, right?
00:04:08.240 Uh-huh.
00:04:08.580 And we have a shrinking economy.
00:04:10.520 Good point.
00:04:11.680 Solid point there.
00:04:15.340 We're not an economist.
00:04:16.960 No, we're not economists.
00:04:18.180 It's okay. I'm not either. I just need to research.
00:04:20.680 It's...
00:04:21.280 We just like the two of us.
00:04:23.220 Yes.
00:04:23.820 Sounds very...
00:04:24.800 Like, I would say that Canada's economy is worse than it was in the past ten years.
00:04:32.200 But I'd also say it is still better than the U.S.
00:04:35.840 Like, our homelessness rates are way down in comparison to the U.S.
00:04:39.380 Okay.
00:04:41.140 Like, I think that a lot of our issues are in Ontario.
00:04:45.940 Like, in comparison to the rest of Canada.
00:04:47.960 The rest of Canada is doing mostly fine.
00:04:49.840 Well.
00:04:50.280 Like, maybe aside from Alberta?
00:04:53.020 Yeah, I don't know. Quebec?
00:04:55.240 There's a lot of jobs outside of Ontario in this kind of America-mimicking field.
00:05:02.640 Okay.
00:05:03.080 I would say that Ontario isn't super ideal.
00:05:07.800 Like, we pride ourselves a lot on the mimicry of America.
00:05:11.160 We pride ourselves on the mimicry of their economy.
00:05:13.000 But we're falling into the exact same pitfalls that they are.
00:05:14.980 i don't know that we're mimicking them certainly not in the oil and gas industry or in like reduced
00:05:21.340 regulations they're like yeah they're opening up their economy they're like bringing companies in
00:05:26.200 to like develop the natural resources which is definitely something canada is not doing and like
00:05:30.840 is that helping their citizens though is that helping because just because the national economy
00:05:35.420 just because the number of total money is going up doesn't mean that's going up in the lower people
00:05:40.560 The people in the lower class.
00:05:41.820 Economic growth also means job growth as well. 0.99
00:05:44.800 Well, Elon Musk becoming a trillionaire.
00:05:46.780 I wouldn't say that that's really good for anyone aside from him.
00:05:50.840 Yeah, he made 4,000 millionaires in his own company.
00:05:54.100 Pardon?
00:05:54.440 He made 4,000 millionaires in his own company.
00:05:57.600 Well, I think we'll...
00:05:58.900 I would say that's pretty good.
00:06:02.080 I don't know.
00:06:02.920 I don't think that there should be millionaires.
00:06:05.340 There should, personally.
00:06:07.520 i think for civilians for people there should be a cap on money because there is a certain amount
00:06:14.480 that no one needs like if you had 45 million dollars what would you do with it well i certainly
00:06:21.880 would do a lot of philanthropy that's just me but like i would also but probably buy a house
00:06:29.320 save some money for kids to protect them the first thing i would be doing is buying a house probably
00:06:36.160 but like but then you'll probably be left with like 30 billion dollars what are you going to do
00:06:41.080 with that like for people like for people like elon musk though he has like maybe a hundred
00:06:46.060 million dollars that he can actually access and the rest is literally in stock right so it's not
00:06:51.120 like he has like personally it's in his name and it's not like he has it in a bank account but the
00:06:55.840 fact that he has a hundred million dollars he still has access to is kind of crazy because that
00:07:00.640 equal to some country's military budget that's equal to some country's entire food budget
00:07:06.780 okay that's equal to some country's entire health care budget for a whole year 0.93
00:07:10.880 like that's an absurd amount of money and he's doing jack shit with it like if he has if he 0.93
00:07:17.920 has the money of a nation as a singular person why doesn't he just why does he why doesn't he 0.88
00:07:24.900 also have to follow the rights of a nation okay why like there is such a thing as personal property
00:07:31.380 rights right yes yeah does he have a right over that or do we i don't think we do i don't i think
00:07:38.240 that he does have a right over that but he doesn't have the same responsibilities that a nation would
00:07:42.240 have like he is one human being that's true and a nation is a bunch of people that's also true but
00:07:49.120 he also has the money equal to a nation which is a bunch of people okay so like like are what are
00:07:54.700 we going to do about that are we going to take his money do we have like do we as citizens like
00:07:59.280 okay let's talk about the united states because it's in the states yes the american citizens
00:08:02.560 have like the right to take all his like most of his money at least in like one million
00:08:06.800 legally no i don't think that it's a citizen's job to take someone else's money
00:08:12.840 okay but collectively i think that is i think that is the government's job i think that if
00:08:17.960 you have this is the reason that we have taxation those on the lower end those who don't make as
00:08:23.220 much money are not taxed as much as the rich are this is why the rich need to be taxed because that
00:08:28.460 exorbitant amount of wealth we can't guarantee that they're gonna use it for philanthropy like
00:08:32.780 look at who's that who's that who's that mega pastor uh oh god the one the one that bought the
00:08:38.920 jet all the jets because the jet was so cheap he just had to buy it i definitely don't agree with
00:08:44.700 that yeah like people it's it's a precautionary measure it's unfortunately punishing everyone
00:08:51.720 for the sake of everyone else okay so then the people as a whole do have some right to his money
00:09:00.100 i would think so yeah all right so do we we take his money what happens then will he continue to
00:09:06.800 make more money or will he leave can he not make more money well if we take even if we're taxing
00:09:13.200 a small amount like when you get these wealthy people and you tax them right yes are they going
00:09:19.440 continue to create money just so the government can take it away from them or are they going to
00:09:23.840 stop making their their citizen every other citizen has to do that why don't they well
00:09:29.920 they will just continue to make they will make sure then it's a combination of like tax them
00:09:35.680 and also install measures to make sure they can't get that much money again because when you hoard
00:09:41.680 all this money the basic thing of power is that when you get more and more of it the thing you're
00:09:47.920 most afraid of when you get power to want to lose it and I'd say in a capitalistic world money is
00:09:54.240 equal to power pretty much exactly and so when you see the amount of money you have go up and up
00:10:00.160 and up even if it's not in your bank account it's your network and so you basically see your power
00:10:05.120 measured in a number as it goes up and up and up so why would you voluntarily give away your power
00:10:12.720 it makes sense why
00:10:15.660 when you're a trillion
00:10:16.780 I think that is so true of socialism as well
00:10:19.540 they won't voluntarily give up that power
00:10:21.780 I don't think that it
00:10:23.760 respectfully, I think in the way
00:10:25.860 that our system has been set up
00:10:27.040 there's no respectful way to give up the power
00:10:30.100 because they don't want to give it up
00:10:31.680 the system that we currently live in
00:10:34.020 is built on accumulating
00:10:35.360 wealth, aka accumulating
00:10:37.980 power, socialism
00:10:39.520 is a system where you distribute
00:10:41.660 the power no one person has so much of it so everybody has a relatively equal amount of money
00:10:50.360 therefore relatively equal amount of power and there are systems in place to make sure that one
00:10:55.740 person can't get way more than somebody else so that there's no one person who holds all the power
00:11:01.620 for themselves right but then the government holds that in the name of the people right the government
00:11:08.140 has the power of a taxation of revenue in the name of the people right but the government is
00:11:13.100 hopefully if done right the government is dealing this money back out to people
00:11:17.420 under socialism ideally everyone is a government worker because the people actually own the
00:11:23.580 from the government.