Unify Action - October 06, 2026


“You CAN’T Be Racist Against White People!” — U of T Students Get Heated

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They Blamed The Free Market For Everything - My Response Had Them Scrambling

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00:00:00.000 Can white men, white women, experience racism?
00:00:02.920 No, they cannot.
00:00:03.540 When you think about equality, you're going to say, like, affirmative action is bad.
00:00:06.900 Like, I did want to have a respectful debate, but, like, take a sociology class, learn a
00:00:11.420 bit more about races and oppression, and then...
00:00:14.420 Right.
00:00:16.400 For Trump, for an example, why we have him doing tax evasions and big corporations like
00:00:20.860 Jeff Bezos having, like, hordes and hordes of millions and billions of dollars because
00:00:24.740 they are not actually giving it back to the economy, they are keeping it for themselves,
00:00:28.600 which is a lot of the time what happens.
00:00:30.000 That was the truth. We wouldn't see that, would we?
00:00:33.560 But those millions and billions of dollars are in stocks.
00:00:36.820 Where does it go?
00:00:38.300 No. A lot of them are offshore.
00:00:40.680 And a lot of them are not being seen.
00:00:42.860 Especially with people like...
00:00:43.820 Because they don't keep them in the United States.
00:00:45.140 Okay. But with people like Elon Musk...
00:00:47.420 But like, hold on.
00:00:47.940 They have...
00:00:48.580 What do stocks help?
00:00:49.920 Lower income people cannot buy stocks, right?
00:00:51.980 Who does stocks benefit?
00:00:53.500 The wealthy.
00:00:54.640 And so the wealthy could use to afford wealth.
00:00:55.900 They benefit anyone who can actually put their money into them.
00:00:58.520 And who can? Usually the wealthy.
00:01:00.000 Right? Lower-income people cannot buy stocks.
00:01:02.020 They don't have the economic...
00:01:03.060 Well, I can and I have, and I'm very low-income.
00:01:05.800 Right, and you're here.
00:01:07.080 Clearly, you have some type of economic intelligence
00:01:11.260 around financial intelligence, correct?
00:01:14.060 So you're able to have that type of background
00:01:17.480 to know what stocks are, to buy stocks.
00:01:19.520 Most people within the working lower, even lower middle class,
00:01:23.520 not able to do that.
00:01:24.600 Most are not. It's just the truth.
00:01:26.340 Most people, like, we can check out, like,
00:01:29.220 statistic now it's the wealthy upper middle class middle class that have stocks you get stocks
00:01:35.000 through your jobs depending on what type of job you have a lot of software actually the people
00:01:39.120 that say like that get stocks who actually are like okay but i'm not gonna spend all my money
00:01:45.340 statistically though like you're part of a smaller percentage if you do want to pull out the like
00:01:50.460 the stats like you're not you're part of the lower percentage like it's mostly the wealthy
00:01:55.060 it's mostly upper middle class okay people that are able to buy stocks that have the economic
00:02:01.440 knowledge to know what to do with stocks what stocks to buy if you don't have that money if
00:02:05.700 you don't know like you're even at a privileged position to be standing here right like knowing
00:02:11.280 like which stocks to buy a lot of people do a lot of people have technology right so even you
00:02:16.300 i wouldn't like lower income your higher income in terms of your like intelligence around like that
00:02:23.520 okay then maybe what we should be focusing on is making people financially literate and knowing
00:02:30.880 okay how do you do that that should be an educational thing and that should be like
00:02:34.940 be public though shouldn't that be public because a lot of okay it should be like
00:02:38.600 our educational system everyone should have access to it right which should be a public thing
00:02:41.940 a lot of people do not have access to it because it's private and there's a lot of places where
00:02:46.440 they're lower income they don't have access to good education which is why we see income inequality
00:02:50.920 education inequality.
00:02:53.620 Okay, but even now
00:02:55.220 education is run by the government
00:02:56.720 and it's not particularly good.
00:02:59.420 If it's not teaching people
00:03:01.240 to be independent thinkers
00:03:03.120 and to actually learn
00:03:05.100 and study and be good
00:03:07.160 with their money, then it's actually
00:03:09.100 a fault of the government, especially
00:03:11.100 provincial. Like local governments,
00:03:13.180 sure. And then that's
00:03:15.200 more on the local level.
00:03:16.920 We have to work with different
00:03:18.620 states, cities that are
00:03:20.900 not doing well for that yeah that's not like a national thing but it is still like inherently
00:03:28.880 a government thing yeah if it's poor education and yeah but that doesn't like especially in
00:03:34.280 canada education is at least primary education like high school everything else it is accessible
00:03:44.120 to pretty much everyone so and you think that's not a good thing that is a good thing i think
00:03:48.980 So then you support socialism because that's a social policy.
00:03:51.160 See, socialism inherently has the idea that you have a right to someone else's money.
00:03:58.880 No.
00:03:59.380 Right?
00:03:59.900 No.
00:04:00.180 Because we, well, okay.
00:04:02.080 No.
00:04:02.380 We have the rich.
00:04:03.800 We think that we should be entitled to their money.
00:04:06.220 Well, it's the idea that why do we even have billionaires or millionaires in the first place?
00:04:12.240 Because they gave a good service.
00:04:14.800 No.
00:04:15.860 That's not what happens most of the time.
00:04:18.660 If you see a lot of billionaires and millionaires have had inherited wealth, generational wealth, that has been passed down, a lot of time hard work and effort does not lead to higher income.
00:04:30.580 Like you see with nurses or teachers, like that's also a fallacy.
00:04:33.960 Like that's not how it works.
00:04:35.620 So that's why a lot of socialists, like democratic socialists, don't believe in billionaires at all because it's like they're hoarding their wealth.
00:04:46.020 a lot of the time it wasn't due to like hard work and there's people that are like starving
00:04:50.860 all right so i'll point to the richest i'll point to the richest man in the world
00:04:56.980 elon musk yeah he came to ontario he came to canada and studied and he had literally two
00:05:03.860 thousand dollars in his pocket that's a lot of money that he put into tuition able to even go
00:05:08.540 to canada to go there in the first place that is a privilege to be able to even have two thousand
00:05:13.880 that is a privilege being a white man he put that is a privilege in and itself because you are
00:05:19.980 guaranteed certain privileges in society because of your status right i actually i wouldn't agree
00:05:27.600 with that we're definitely socially we're stig we're stigmatizing them we're who's them white
00:05:34.420 men we're stigmatizing them we're there now at least publicly in like media and everything else
00:05:41.440 there's a lot of trash talk on white men and so that's racism i would say it's inherently racial
00:05:47.760 oppression or sorry racial racial obsession yeah it's yeah prejudice do you know what racism means
00:05:55.080 it's a prejudice or hatred or it's the system of oppression against a specific minority group that
00:06:02.240 has been oppressed for a specific amount of time right so example can white people experience
00:06:08.120 racism no because racism is systemic it is historical can indigenous people in canada
00:06:14.260 experience racism yes because it is systemic within canada can white men white women experience
00:06:20.780 racism no they cannot because it's not systemic like you guys can experience prejudice right like
00:06:27.040 let me give you a good example and we can experience racial prejudice yeah like i can
00:06:32.140 call you like like some name because you're white and that's prejudice and that's not good
00:06:37.680 but would that be racism no for the sole purpose that racism as a concept is systemic is historical
00:06:47.160 so my point being in the united states for black americans in particular why we say that racism
00:06:55.420 is systemic because it just is like if you learn about critical race theory are you guys gonna go
00:07:00.220 oh okay okay okay i'll be done soon um but black americans have systemically been oppressed by
00:07:13.160 the government by like financially personally like on very large scales right so then
00:07:20.720 if you take a black person and a white person in the united states you cannot say that they're on
00:07:27.540 equal playing fields because if you have a race and one person started all the way back while the
00:07:32.940 other person was five steps ahead and you say okay you guys can keep going no it's not going to be
00:07:38.420 fair because inherently one person has started farther down right with indigenous people in
00:07:43.400 canada like residential schools right a lot of them are on reservations they're not like you
00:07:48.960 guys have kind of like or canadians have pushed them out and they're actually experiencing given
00:07:54.680 them exactly everything that they wanted their everything that they've wanted they wanted they
00:07:58.900 wanted their community they wanted to like no like okay can we talk about right now what's going on
00:08:04.280 right now okay in canada is that we've given basically we have we've paid so much out to them
00:08:09.620 like hundreds of millions of dollars we've given them tax breaks they have government of their own
00:08:14.800 societies okay they have special welfare they are very much then where are they why are they not in
00:08:22.520 positions of power exactly they can they can be but they're like
00:08:26.660 to say that you're only going to talk about present when the history of everything has
00:08:37.860 history matters the history of everything matters but if we what if you okay talk about present yes
00:08:44.880 you've given them what they need but no do they have clean water no do they have places to live
00:08:50.140 that are like any but like would you want to live areas where they're not even able to like
00:08:55.140 get what they need get their base it's not even about residential schools it's about now in the
00:08:59.420 present day okay they don't have water they don't have drinkable water they have water that literally
00:09:03.480 causes skin like things all over their skin they don't have resources available to them
00:09:08.960 they live like yes they want to live on the reserves of course because that's where their
00:09:14.340 keep like that's where they're from but to not give them like a susceptible living like environment
00:09:20.480 a place where they actually can live freely and live well we're not doing that so to your point
00:09:26.240 about indigenous people like i have to say to say that it's only about the present taking away from
00:09:32.200 the history the horrible history of residential people coming in like you can have like this is
00:09:39.560 an opinion what are those other posters i want to see what else you want to what else you want to
00:09:44.280 be debating today but well hey i i am i want to hear your point now i actually do this is why i'm
00:09:50.900 interested to hear a okay a friendly debate okay so my point is that if our our goal should be to
00:10:00.760 remove and get rid of every bit of racism and legal precedent legal precedent prejudice against
00:10:07.900 any people right we shouldn't have prejudice or yes anything like that we shouldn't we should
00:10:14.220 let everyone be equal there should be equal laws like in general i think so no it should be equitable
00:10:19.520 not equality when you think about equality you're gonna say like well probably like affirmative
00:10:25.160 action is bad right but when you talk about history if you talk about like the race that
00:10:29.400 i was talking about the dawn of time there hasn't been equality exactly if people have been back
00:10:33.520 and then we start them at the same place how is it going to be equal it's not if you wanted to
00:10:37.780 actually be equal it needs to be equitable and you need to start the person that was started off at
00:10:41.600 the back they need to get more like provisions what we have like reparations so that it actually
00:10:47.700 is on an equal playing field but it's not and it's never going to be if we have a free society
00:10:53.140 with free education and everything else but people don't have access because of what has
00:11:01.120 been historically been done to black people is 3k to 12 is not a great education system if we're
00:11:09.200 being honest i just like public school what are like honestly what are they teaching you i get i
00:11:15.440 here now i'm like realizing wow they actually set us up for nothing they actually set us up for
00:11:20.960 nothing like like you're saying free education yes free education but it's the quality of education
00:11:27.360 if the education is free obviously they're not going to be putting in resources time first of
00:11:32.440 all they cut funding from education so our education is literally let me just say from
00:11:38.020 my perspective i'm going to say personally from from k to 12 do i think that they set me up for
00:11:44.040 a successful future no like i had to learn most of it by myself you have to learn most of it by
00:11:49.980 yourself unless you're paying for education then you're getting a good education for example after
00:11:55.600 after also free education until grade 12 yeah what are you gonna do with a not a university
00:12:01.640 degree after grade 12 you have to go to university to get anywhere in life so that makes no sense to
00:12:06.640 say free education yeah free education like whatever next next you say what you have to say
00:12:12.320 i just needed to say my bit say your bit okay um okay i see things differently i think that if we
00:12:22.100 have a middle class family of any race then they are equal are they not they are equal human beings
00:12:32.540 under the law under no incapacity and everything else are they not equal no not even if like equal
00:12:41.600 under the law equal in income equal in capacity equal in everything else they're not equal
00:12:46.020 like you're telling me that no matter what race let me tell you something they said it was equal
00:12:55.060 by the law in the united states when it was separate but equal was it equal no because
00:12:59.640 the students the black students that had education they had a very poor education
00:13:03.920 lack of resources lack of funding so we can't really look at the legal system and be like oh
00:13:08.660 well they're equal because of x y and z because no right but like in canada right now look socially
00:13:14.680 too yeah literally that's what i'm saying how are you taking away the whole like equality of social
00:13:19.620 like the social equality how are you taking out yeah that whole entire part of it that's what i
00:13:25.920 don't understand you're saying equal on every level except for us like social like literally
00:13:31.260 being a person level they're not equal so like that makes no sense to say they're equal because
00:13:36.340 we're not like you can't also use legality like that like okay like so socially okay you as a
00:13:43.080 white woman you have different it like you have it yeah you have a different it like idea thought
00:13:52.700 of equality because you've never had the experience of somebody who doesn't actually
00:13:57.000 have like okay well okay i'm like tripping off no i get what you're saying yes like the main point
00:14:05.120 is though like it's hard for you and like your peers yeah to talk about a system that you've
00:14:12.200 never experienced that you will never experience that you have not been oppressed by right so it's
00:14:17.080 gonna be hard for you to see something that doesn't impact you and be like how is this not free
00:14:22.180 it's free for me you said that you're lower income i'm lower income and i also was able to get these
00:14:27.140 opportunities why can't these people do it too it hasn't affected you it hasn't affected your family
00:14:31.280 it is not a systemic thing for you and your peers and you guys will not be able to see it
00:14:34.560 right it's something for me like i'm not able to talk about civic issues because i haven't lived
00:14:39.800 right and okay but if i could study i could hear other people's opinions are you socialist are you
00:14:47.200 in like sociology are you in philosophy are you no i'm i'm right so maybe if you were in sociology
00:14:51.820 you'd understand like that there's why socialism is better why there are minorities like people
00:14:56.900 are oppressed and why racism is still around i really just don't understand how you're gonna
00:15:00.480 take like just everything you said kind of just me i was just like oh like i didn't want to have
00:15:05.360 a respectful debate but like take a sociology class learn a bit more about races and oppression
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