"Cabinet Full Of Stupid People" - Entrepreneur Rob Hersov RIPS South Africa’s FAILED Leadership
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Summary
In this episode, we are joined by a very good friend of mine, Patrick, who has a very interesting point of view on the current state of the country of South Africa. He's a brilliant mind and a great human being, and I'm sure you'll agree that he's right on the money when he says that South Africa is a problem, but is it a geography problem or a management problem?
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are you familiar with thomas soul yes okay extraordinary man extraordinary libertarian
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libertarian yeah he was good friends with milton friedman that whole i'd love to meet him i'd love
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to meet him as well trust me i'd love to meet him as well he's somebody that's a brilliant mind i
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think he's in his mid 90s and he's still sharp as hell he said uh talk about south africa in one
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of his books and he said is south africa a management problem or a geography problem
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can you pull up south africa map great question is is south africa does south africa has a
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have a geography problem or a management problem because zoom out a little bit so we can see where
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south africa is keep zooming out zooming out zooming out zoom out zoom out okay obviously got nothing
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south you know airplanes fly down and then they turn around and fly back it's like new zealand yeah so
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i mean that that location right there is just looking at that you you're a long ways from
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everybody okay it's like living on a cul-de-sac which in a way it could be good that's my home
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yeah i understand that well what do you what do you think the problem is you think thomas
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soul is right because thomas soul is saying that you know you may have a location problem you may have
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a geography problem what do you think look it's fixable this economy i could give me a hundred
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days as a benevolent dictator i can turn this country as a benevolent dictator well you've got
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to do it because you've got to make some tough decisions what would be the tough decisions you'd
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make i'd privatize all the state-owned enterprises okay sell them off because they are just a feeding
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trough for corruption i would deregulate i'd bring in a doge as quickly as possible
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we have 32 ministers in the cabinet 32 norway has 18 argentina has nine we have a ministry for
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women what does that person do i mean it's ridiculous and all the ministers have a deputy
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minister there are 34 deputy ministers so we have 76 ministers that all have blue light brigade security
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flying business and first class the waste is we have 1.4 million
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state employees the waste is off the charts it's fixable you just cut the cost
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have hive off division like any turnaround situation in a business that you've had to deal with
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you know go to the debt holders and say you're not paying interest for three years
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go to the equity holders and say you've got five cents on the dollar pal take it or leave it you cut out
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management you cut costs you hive off divisions that aren't working you can only do that if you're a
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a benevolent dictator and you do it quickly you close the borders you kick out illegal foreigners
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you do what trump's done but we're in much more tragic situation you have any plans of running
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you have any plans of doing uh politics no no plans of running i'm 65 this year the president's 79
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years old the previous guy behind he forms 82 years old patrick don't do this to me no but do you have
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any interest like if the opportunity erodes would you entertain it no here's the problem have do you
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have um adult adhd as an individual i have a lot of issues i have a lot of issues too maybe one of them
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yes but one of them is i can't sit still for half an hour okay in a meeting with people who haven't
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done their homework where i know what they're going to say and i finish their sentences can you imagine
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being in a cabinet with half of the people are stupid haven't done their homework some still believe
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in common what do you think trump is doing yeah but he's got very good people around him and look
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at marco rubio you can't find good people you see south africa this magical place doesn't have good
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people no it has so let's find them i know but i'd have to replace the whole cabinet you'd have to
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give me complete power to get what did trump do he did it as well i know but he can we can't we'd have
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to change the system no the answer is no i'm happy doing what i'm doing
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don't forget what katie said to you she doesn't want me in politics katie said i
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kind of love this place true all right so maybe do it for hey for katie come on katie so does it
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have a geography problem it does if you keep going south you're screwed well i went to the antarctic
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for dinner in december you're being sarcastic no we flew down what was it like unbelievable six
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hour flight from cape town was everything you ate frozen like is it just frozen
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no they had a six-star meal for us we slept in cabins very comfortable and had you recommend it
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i recommend it really one night yeah six hour flight were you swimming outside in the pool
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no no were you tanning like laying out getting some sun but it was sun the whole you know sun 24 hours
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here how long did you guys stay we flew in midday and flew out the next morning how bad was turbulence
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none seriously and we landed what's called deep field so we didn't land on the edge with all the
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penguins are we went deep field how many people live there there are i can give you the stats like
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4 500 no the american base alone which is mcmurdo which you get to from australia new zealand that has
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about 4 000 people 20 12 months a year but that's the biggest base in the antarctic i think 12 countries
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you can check the stats rob here we go mcmurdo i think that 12 countries are part of the antarctic
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uh 1500 residents association the station is the largest community in antarctica capable of
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supporting up to 1500 residents so i'm getting some of my stats right but there are three places to
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visit the antarctica the one is from mcmurdo which is very difficult to get to the others from cape town
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and i think there are 500 visitors a year and then the other ones from south america and i think they're
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250 000 visitors that go on cruise ships so we went deep field it was unbelievable but it's like a
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white desert everywhere you look there are no features it's just do you have any opinions on
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antarctica or no a lot of people have been interested in that market 24 hours was about right okay yeah so
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that's what i figured you were going to say 24 hours about right uh did your your family did you guys uh
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uh i took our kids our little kids 10 and 13 years old what did they say they said are we the first 10
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and 13 year olds ever to be dead i found out some kids had actually been before them being born there
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was it freezing cold no okay all right uh growing up uh south africa you hear things about errol musk and
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mines and all that stuff what was he famous was uh did your family have a relationship with him or no no
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but elon musk's dad errol musk worked at our mining business get out of here i only found that out
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four months ago when i met errol musk he said i worked for your father's mining business yeah
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but you didn't know him you just i only met him four months ago got it errol his dad how what was that
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like how old was what was that like living growing up in south africa no what was he like errol's
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he's he's he's got a crazy angle to him he'll say stuff you and i would never dare to say never
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dare to say when he really tells it like it is he's a bit of a loose cannon when it comes to opinions
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yeah he's uh you know well he's a nice guy he's a fun guy he's not stupid he's a smart guy but he's
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he'll shoot from the hip yeah well i mean the the maybe the trolling gene comes from pop
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because because musk knows how to troll like no other it's amazing how he thinks you know trump
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elon or errol well trump weaves yeah he'll start here yeah and you and then you'll go completely
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off piece and i'll go oh no he's got to answer the question please and he winds his way back and
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