Valuetainment - ＂Charlie Kirk And I Were NOT Friends”- Van Jones REVEALS Charlie Kirk’s TRUE SIDE In SECRET Messages

00:00:00.000 van jones okay who many would look at van jones and say van jones is a obama guy van jones at one

00:00:08.780 point was tied to politically to some people said some communism you know maybe he said himself yeah

00:00:14.740 i'm a communist and he said i've rolled off that that's right i'm still that's right and then he

00:00:20.740 all of a sudden tells a story here about charlie kirk and and you can tell how sincere he's being

00:00:28.140 go ahead rob charlie kirk and i were not friends um at all in fact the last week of his life we were

00:00:35.800 beefing hard uh beefing online beefing on air but the day before he died he did something that shocked

00:00:42.680 me he sent me a personal message calling for personal dialogue wanted me to come on the show

00:00:48.680 he said we could be gentlemen together he said we could deal with our disagreements agreeably

00:00:55.020 and in the past week and a half just watching people talk about civil wars and censorship and

00:01:01.580 all this stuff coming out of his death i just thought it was important to let people know

00:01:07.160 don't put that on charlie kirk because the last day of his life he was reaching out to have

00:01:13.060 not more censorship more conversation more dialogue with somebody who honestly was one of his adversaries

00:01:20.320 me and i just want to share that with the world and i hope that maybe it might help somebody

00:01:29.380 on both sides deal with issues more like he did tom well i think uh van jones there um first of all

00:01:41.160 van you watch us i know you're watching thank you for being honest and thank you for uh positioning

00:01:46.800 your response like that um that is a uh that was a stand-up thing you did after you received a

00:01:52.120 stand-up message and i think he's right you know when um um i read this past week that charlie said

00:01:58.800 to somebody um he said we have to be careful when the conversation stops that's when the violence

00:02:04.980 starts and he's talking about civil disobedience and rioting and things when that conversation stops and

00:02:10.800 so uh van's bringing that up and i think this is exactly why you have to have the conversations

00:02:17.340 because what was conversation conversation isn't for two people to come to the table have a coffee

00:02:22.900 and then not move an inch a conversation is so there can be some understanding and there can be some

00:02:29.000 new understanding and learning and together saying i didn't know this i didn't know that and this is

00:02:35.280 where i think some of the like the vitriol that i catch uh and people on this podcast and elsewhere

00:02:42.680 catch from the the hard left they seem to think i'm evil i just think that they're they're not correct

00:02:49.140 and we need to talk about it and that's the difference i see and i i love the fact that um that van

00:02:56.380 went out as and showed people this and said the words don't put that on charlie kirk

00:03:04.500 uh which i thought was uh a way to lower the temperature at a time where we need it lowered

00:03:10.460 pat yeah i thought so as well adam your thoughts well respect to van jones for uh being honest

00:03:17.760 because you know there's this whole concept out there we're gonna own the libs bro we're gonna

00:03:22.300 dunk on these guys we're gonna show them what's going on or on the other side it's like he's evil

00:03:26.340 he's hitler let's all just agree on the basic foundation of who we are as americans as humans

00:03:32.840 we all want the same thing we all want the best for our family we all the best for ourselves we all

00:03:39.500 want to do good things in this world and then you can take exceptions to this rule this person's a

00:03:45.200 horrible person this person's a horrible person erica kirk and a moment that galvanized i believe

00:03:52.460 the country i would hope forgave the person that murdered her husband that's something that i will go

00:03:58.760 to the well in time and time again at a time where it's so easy to be angry or what's the what's the

00:04:07.180 next word desire i'm going to show you what's going on to give grace and empathy and compassion and

00:04:11.920 kindness and respect you think that just came that lived in a vacuum or did she get that from charlie

00:04:17.100 and did charlie see himself beefing with van jones say you know what man let's just talk about this a

00:04:23.000 little bit this concept of grace and being uh being able to disagree uh without being disagreeable

00:04:29.440 is such an important concept last point that i just want to bring up you talked about president trump

00:04:34.380 and he said that charlie was a master builder right so in my opinion

00:04:40.740 charlie kirk would have been the next president and he would have been a better president than donald trump

00:04:47.720 why trump said the following he goes charlie wasn't concerned with money you said he said uh he was

00:04:55.060 more about meaning than money he said he was more about his mission than money you talked about how i

00:05:02.720 think it was sergio gore who's in the trump inner circle he said that trump is transactional in the

00:05:07.280 quote you said about dick cheney trump wrote the book the art of the deal no no no you said trump is

00:05:13.100 transactional i think trump is transactional you're saying i'm saying not sergio gore

00:05:17.260 no no no no oh okay i'm saying right trump is transactional okay your opinion is trump is

00:05:21.920 transactional yes okay he wrote the book the art of the deal everything's a deal everything's a deal

00:05:26.400 if you say nice things about me you're my friend if you say mean things about me we're enemies he said

00:05:31.280 i hate my enemies these are trump's quotes charlie didn't care about money he cared about his mission

00:05:35.900 trump i don't think charlie was transactional is that what he said charlie was not transactional

00:05:41.560 correct that's what i'm saying i think trump i think charlie would have been trump but better

00:05:46.920 with sympathy and with principles and without dare i say it corruption but okay go ahead

00:05:54.900 because i was going to say um are you are you going to respond to what you just said say well

00:05:59.120 first and i when you said adam because i have to disagree when you said we all want what's good

00:06:04.060 for our families and we all what's good for the country that's i think that's the far from the truth

00:06:08.780 because the other side i hate having to go this side and this side show me an example of how their

00:06:14.580 pro family and the country and the because everything that they've showed us to this point

00:06:19.060 adam from open opening the borders to all the children getting abused to pro-abortion to pro-violence

00:06:26.740 to celebrating murder i don't see it i do respect what vans joan did but what is he going to do with it

00:06:34.400 because it always seems like these these people go and they have this moment of light they see the

00:06:39.600 light and then they jump right back because he's supposed to take that i'm happy he's saying it

00:06:43.740 but what are you going to do with it are you going to try to convince your side that the other side

00:06:48.040 isn't evil we're not nazis we're not crazy it's just take it and what are you going to do with it

00:06:55.100 because what i'm seeing and adam saying that charlie would have been i mean it's your opinion

00:06:58.640 better than trump nobody nobody i don't think ever is going to go through what trump with meaning

00:07:04.760 before he even got in the spying obama brennan deep state everything collusion trump had to go

00:07:13.680 through hell and back to get to this point where i could see where he's on stage going i'm not agreeing

00:07:18.620 with it but he knows the left was watching him he knows that's why he's like i hate my enemies i'm

00:07:23.660 not going to forgive my enemies so my point is being adam the other side has to understand they have to

00:07:29.380 have a moment something has to happen with the left to besides realizing you guys are losing

00:07:35.480 something spiritually adam has to connect with these people because they're not jumping off the train

00:07:40.820 they're staying on the same rhetoric that's negativity and it's anti-america and it's anti-us

00:07:47.080 so i have one question for you yeah what do you mean by the other side the other side meaning

00:07:52.500 let's do this yeah let's do this wait let me respond to the charlie thing and let's go to the other

00:07:57.120 side because we got a bunch of clips to go through uh the comment you made i think it's a little bit

00:08:01.340 of an unfair comment but let me give my thoughts on why i think that is and then i actually like that

00:08:06.080 you said that because it's a good conversation to have to me um i think lincoln was the right guy for

00:08:13.960 that time i think reagan was the right guy for that time okay i think john f kennedy was the right guy

00:08:21.860 for that time i don't think anybody could have done what trump did to face the criticism and had

00:08:33.600 the authority and the swagger to pull up and get there you got to realize yes we're giving a lot of

00:08:41.480 love to charlie and he's he deserves every ounce of it yes we're giving a lot of love to all the people

00:08:50.160 that spoke there but one guy put him up there and i was trump without trump we don't know charlie

00:08:59.880 it's not not the other way around first comes the prophet the guy that was willing to go to war

00:09:07.000 and had the audacity and fearlessness who inspired charlie's to get behind him you know what did they

00:09:13.660 say the chicken what is the the chicken or the egg the first came trump okay that that is a historical

00:09:23.400 figure that came and then came i'm gonna go fight for him and i'm gonna go get all these states

00:09:31.940 and places for him when he says charlie would call me sometimes and he would say mr president can you be

00:09:37.720 in arizona tomorrow what what are you talking about tomorrow you're giving me one day these people

00:09:42.860 need to hear from you and sometimes i'm like this guy is crazy but i would have to go for it why

00:09:47.280 because he did so much for us right he did so much for us and as much as you're saying transactional

00:09:53.000 i i there's a part of me i got a phone call you know from someone that said pat i wonder if it's all

00:09:59.960 business with you right is it all business with you it's a fair question to ask it's it's not a it's

00:10:06.260 not a i don't take it as an insult i take it as yeah i can see how that that's what it could look

00:10:11.180 like if it was only transactional why is dana white still in his life 20 something years later

00:10:18.260 how much money has he made off of dana white what why are so many of these guys

00:10:24.300 still doing what they're doing was there an element of transactional sure was there an element of that

00:10:32.620 that happens in business yes are some of those people you don't want to be in business with again

00:10:37.580 yes but i think trump is a once in a lifetime type of guy who built master builders there are master

00:10:46.980 builders then there is the guy that built master builders trump is the guy that built a ton of

00:10:52.640 master builders trump created careers for people trump put people on the limelight with podcasts with

00:11:00.420 shows with writing with politics trump gave camera and eyeballs to people who have never gotten it

00:11:06.700 before that's the difference but if you're going back to saying you know when the one part of the

00:11:15.180 event which was like such a boom it just hits you is the comment jd vance made when he says i have not

00:11:23.780 talked about jesus more in my lifetime than i have in the last two weeks and that's because of charlie

00:11:29.020 charlie brought god back into the center stage charlie's bringing that back that's going to be

00:11:38.420 charlie's movement which i don't think we got with the president which i don't think we got but i don't

00:11:43.120 think that's him i don't think he needs to be that guy i do think we're going to get to a point that

00:11:46.900 somebody in the next 5 10 15 20 years a president's going to come that they're going to open things up

00:11:52.300 with a prayer hey before we do this can i pray for everybody yeah heavenly father you know i pray for

00:11:57.680 you i see that's coming up and i do think that's going to be inspired by uh uh by by charlie and by

00:12:04.140 the way as crazy as it sounds i think charlie's going to increase the calibration and the level

00:12:09.320 of consciousness of america higher to love yeah but in that moment of what trump has done the last

00:12:16.380 eight years no the guy is the guy is a very very unique guy now having said that if you do want to

00:12:21.780 rebuttal before i go into some of these things look i i i it doesn't benefit me to disagree with pat

00:12:26.860 publicly but sometimes i do here's where i'm going to disagree with you sir trump's 80 years old

00:12:32.480 almost charlie is 31 at his death you talk about apples to apples one of the things i love about pat

00:12:38.920 he goes let's go there imagine charlie 40 years from now what kind of what kind of momentum he would

00:12:44.920 have what kind of what kind of things he would have done with his life when charlie started turning

00:12:48.760 point it was in 2012 well four years before trump even thought about running for president and he

00:12:56.760 started this with with with purpose with the meaning with a mission and look what he accomplished at 31

00:13:01.860 at 31 respectfully trump was building buildings charlie built a movement so in my opinion in 40 years

00:13:11.300 from now at the rate charlie was going he would have been bigger better and more wonderful than

00:13:17.300 oh 40 years i'm just saying in general 40 years yeah we can't compare charlie at 31 to trump at 80

00:13:23.160 i i i'm saying i'm saying the trajectory he was on adam he would have been there adam so so let me tell

00:13:29.160 you how this works sometimes a person thinks they're famous like for example sometimes there are people

00:13:37.720 people that hang with a guy like uh trump let's just say and everywhere trump goes there's cameras

00:13:45.340 and trump's got four or five people around his around the circle who have never had this many eyeballs

00:13:51.460 this isn't just trump this can be said about uh uh many different people right but in this context

00:13:58.800 i'm just using trump out of these five guys that are around trump that are getting more eyeballs than

00:14:04.080 ever in their lives how many of them are grateful for it knowing they're getting it because of trump

00:14:10.260 how many of them are thinking no it's not because of trump it's because of me how many uh i would

00:14:18.260 out of the five out of the five i would say four out of the five think that and they'd be wrong

00:14:22.120 okay four out of the five think that it's them it's not true yeah exactly i'm with you yeah so here's

00:14:27.000 where i'm going with i think charlie's the one guy that says i owe my 100 and where i'm going to is

00:14:32.060 what this guy did for 70 years is what prepared for the republican party to get the eyeballs that

00:14:43.460 is getting because ever since trump was a kid no matter where he went cameras followed him they

00:14:49.180 wanted no doubt i agree with so what i'm saying to you is he brought this he made a lot of the

00:14:54.300 conservative players celebrities yeah purely by association not the other way around i agree but

00:15:01.220 you're right and i do think in that and my my part with this is i feel like i wanted to see the

00:15:09.820 finished product with charlie that's the part that that maybe i don't maybe i speak on behalf of some

00:15:16.200 people maybe i speak i'm just speaking for myself but if you relate you relate i really wanted to see

00:15:21.000 what this guy was going to do but god's got bigger plans and i trust him more than i trust anybody else

00:15:26.560 and we're going to see what's going to be happening with it but i understand your argument you're making

00:15:29.560 for sure he would have been a he would have been a once in a lifetime type of talent

00:15:34.720 but trump was the reason why a lot of this i'm giving trump infinite respect i'm simply saying

00:15:40.900 apples to apples if charlie kept the trajectory he was on no question he would have been no question

00:15:45.340 who else on that stage something special happened last week before we went to the memorial

00:15:51.380 vinnie had a new collection and we just got a report from leo how successful that collection was

00:15:56.960 i'm gonna have vinnie say a few thoughts and few words about the faith over fear vinnie share with

00:16:03.620 them why you're excited about this shirt oh i mean i think we rarely do back-to-back no i don't think

00:16:08.800 we ever have done but it's such a big hit especially with the timing of it but so so as you guys can

00:16:13.820 tell you know cross on the front faith on the fear in the back i wore this on sunday and i went to a

00:16:20.000 diner and i'm sitting there guys a guy pats me on the back sits down next to me starts telling a

00:16:24.980 story about his faith and his family starts crying a waitress comes and she's just sitting there her

00:16:29.480 name is mary sitting there staring at me i'm at leicester's diner i had five people around me

00:16:34.640 talking about faith and what you know what this move something something is happening pat i got

00:16:39.880 emotional walking in here today with you and get and crying and guys just having faith okay matt

00:16:45.320 sapala you mind if i crazy guys matt sapala is a is a huge big time loyal amazing amazing guy and

00:16:51.860 friend uh with his wife sheena dude he just got on a plane literally flew to arizona no joke i think

00:17:00.420 pat you're gonna send it to rob guys he flies to arizona no nothing no ticket he has no way to get in

00:17:06.920 he has no way to get in he texts back goes i'm here guys and rob how many people were walking around

00:17:11.800 outside well they said that there were around 100 000 in the area there were 60 000 inside the

00:17:16.760 stadium so 40 000 walking around trying to find a way we're driving in circles we don't know where

00:17:22.420 we're going out of nowhere i don't know where we see matt sapala now pat goes hey there's matt

00:17:27.640 right there he is and by long story short we get him in the vehicle and he goes and pat goes pat goes

00:17:32.900 what are you what are you doing here no wife nobody he's like he said faith over fear no he goes i just

00:17:38.040 had faith that i god something told me just get on an airplane and go and he goes here i am and he

00:17:44.560 got in our van and we got him in and the word faith jumped out i go i go see how see how god works

00:17:50.200 security the whole night so i tell so guys so the thing behind is just having faith over fear we don't

00:17:54.960 like we don't know none of us saw jesus christ but i have faith because i've heard the stories and i

00:17:59.980 believe i believe in my heart of hearts and never guys all this stuff everything that happened with

00:18:04.940 charlie zero fear zero fear we found out that charlie god rest his soul died instantly and i have

00:18:11.280 faith that in that instant second he was um with uh jesus and he was with god in heaven so that's it

00:18:17.880 guys so faith over fear let people know that i'm not scared we're not scared about nothing zero because

00:18:23.380 we have faith period go to vtmerge.com place your order faith over fear rob can we make sure we sit

00:18:28.480 we put the uh if you can go to the website so i can show exactly where it's at and they can find it

00:18:34.080 you literally go to vtmerge.com and it's the first thing we have there go on the collection

00:18:39.420 there's multiple colors the white apparently the red is doing really good yeah go whichever color

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Valuetainment - September 23, 2025

＂Charlie Kirk And I Were NOT Friends”- Van Jones REVEALS Charlie Kirk’s TRUE SIDE In SECRET Messages

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