Valuetainment - December 20, 2025


＂Charlie Kirk Fought For Debate＂ - AMFest War BREAKS OUT As Shapiro SLAMS Tucker, Candace & Fuentes


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Turning Point USA is having a record-breaking year, and it's all thanks to Tucker Carlson's call-out of Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro's deplatforming of Nick Fuentes. Plus, we talk about why Tucker should be fired.

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00:00:00.000 Turning Point USA is having their annual AmFest event sold out.
00:00:05.100 They shared some numbers of what happened, some record-breaking numbers
00:00:09.320 that I believe Erica shared with the entire audience of what's happened with new chapters,
00:00:15.220 what's happened with people joining, what's happened with the amount of new kids
00:00:20.760 that have gotten involved in the entire organization.
00:00:23.960 Let me see if I can pull up this number here to give you some of the stats.
00:00:26.500 The numbers are unbelievable of what she was sharing with everybody in the audience.
00:00:31.440 Do you have that, Rob, or no?
00:00:33.440 Anyways, it was like a million kids joined, you know, 3,000 new chapters created around the world.
00:00:40.100 The amount of money that was sent in from people around the world just record-breaking all across the board.
00:00:45.460 I have it.
00:00:46.040 Do you have it? Is this her giving the update?
00:00:47.820 Yep.
00:00:48.980 Oh, right, they're zooming a little bit, Rob.
00:00:50.960 Okay, that's actually not Barron Trump.
00:00:52.840 It's just accounts called Barron Trump News.
00:00:54.460 Barron Trump News, Erica just dropped her numbers, 50 TPUSA chapters opened every day, opening every day.
00:01:01.880 8,000-plus church partnerships, 140,000 requests to join, 1 million students involved, 3,000 Club America chapters, 1,400 college chapters.
00:01:11.740 I mean, this is extremely impressive.
00:01:13.620 Now, can they keep the momentum going or not?
00:01:15.380 There's a lot of people that, behind closed doors, are going to be doing everything in their power to make sure this momentum continues.
00:01:20.860 But it's going to rise and fall on leadership.
00:01:23.940 Rob, what speech is it?
00:01:24.900 Is this Erica giving a speech?
00:01:26.980 This is her talking about those numbers.
00:01:28.780 Numbers.
00:01:29.140 What else do you have?
00:01:29.880 Let's go with the Ben Shapiro one.
00:01:31.900 So Ben Shapiro gets up, and I watch the entire speech.
00:01:35.420 And it was a straight-up call-out.
00:01:38.680 It wasn't like he came up.
00:01:40.520 You know, it was all intentional, it was all written, it was all clear, and it was targeted at mainly three people, but mainly two people.
00:01:51.780 Okay?
00:01:52.400 And here's Ben Shapiro.
00:01:53.620 Go ahead, Rob. 0.97
00:01:54.040 So, for example, if you host a Hitler-apologist, Nazi-loving, anti-American piece of refuse like Nick Fuentes, 0.92
00:02:01.120 you know the Nick Fuentes who said that the vice president of the United States is a, quote, 1.00
00:02:12.740 fat gay race traitor married to a jeet. 1.00
00:02:15.880 The person who said that Charlie Kirk was a, quote, retarded idiot. 1.00
00:02:19.160 The person who said, and pardon my language here, it's his quote, that he, quote, took Turning Point USA and fucked it, 1.00
00:02:25.760 and that's why it's filled with gripers. 0.95
00:02:27.700 If you have that person on your show and you proceed to glaze him, you ought to own it.
00:02:42.140 There is a reason that Charlie Kirk despised Nick Fuentes, and indeed even chided Dinesh D'Souza for debating him. 0.98
00:02:48.320 He knew that Nick Fuentes is an evil troll and that building him up is an act of moral imbecility. 0.97
00:02:53.960 And that is precisely what Tucker Carlson did. 0.96
00:02:56.360 He built Nick Fuentes up, and he ought to take responsibility for that,
00:03:00.100 just as he ought to take responsibility for glazing pornographer and alleged sex trafficker Andrew Tate,
00:03:05.260 or for mainstreaming fake historian and pseudo-Nazi apologist Daryl Cooper as America's best and most honest popular historian.
00:03:12.820 Hosts are indeed responsible for the guests they choose and the questions they ask those guests.
00:03:18.320 Okay, so that's Ben.
00:03:28.020 And we know who Ben is calling out.
00:03:29.920 Like, it's not even funny who it's called.
00:03:32.020 It's clear.
00:03:32.340 You're going to just blow the touch shirt.
00:03:33.780 I don't know if we have the clips.
00:03:34.580 He directly called out Candice multiple times by name, called out Tucker several times,
00:03:38.840 and obviously there was Nick Fuentes.
00:03:39.960 Those were the big three you were referring to, Pat?
00:03:41.560 Yes, yes, yes.
00:03:43.140 Candice was probably the biggest recipient of his discouragement.
00:03:46.320 Probably, probably, but I think the leader of the call-out is Tucker, is who he's calling out.
00:03:54.360 So then this is Tucker.
00:03:55.200 Go for it.
00:03:55.560 Because Tucker was there.
00:03:56.420 Candice wasn't, right?
00:03:57.120 Yes, go for it.
00:03:58.340 I just got here, and I feel like I missed the first part of the program.
00:04:02.760 I hope I didn't miss anything meaningful.
00:04:04.160 But I just want to say, I don't think I did.
00:04:09.000 No, I'm just kidding.
00:04:10.440 I watched it.
00:04:12.080 I laughed.
00:04:13.760 I laughed.
00:04:14.680 That kind of bitter, sardonic laugh that emerges from you when, like, upside-down world arrives.
00:04:21.300 When your dog starts doing your taxes, and you're like, wait, it's not supposed to work this way.
00:04:25.240 To hear calls for, like, deplatforming and denouncing people at a Charlie Kirk event, I'm like, what?
00:04:31.980 This is hilarious.
00:04:35.100 Yeah, this is hilarious.
00:04:37.120 Actually, one of the clips, I was listening to myself, thinking as I often do when I hear myself speak, which is never, because I never watch myself.
00:04:44.260 But at these events, they always play, like, the role of you.
00:04:47.380 And I'm like, that guy is pompous.
00:04:49.420 Woo! 0.99
00:04:50.420 Sorry about that.
00:04:51.620 We don't see ourselves clearly.
00:04:53.940 But the prediction that, you know, at some point when Republicans took power again, which I did everything I could, you know, to help, and really felt that was important.
00:05:04.900 I still think, you know, I was right.
00:05:06.680 But I really thought that the impulse to deplatform people, or even to use the word platform as a verb, which it's not, it's a noun, don't steal my nouns, deplatform and denounce.
00:05:20.520 Why haven't you denounced somebody else?
00:05:22.620 The whole, like, Red Guard cultural revolution thing that we so hated and— 0.56
00:05:27.320 Composer, right.
00:05:27.880 Okay, so Tucker gives a speech.
00:05:30.280 Ben gives his speech.
00:05:31.160 You've heard both of them.
00:05:32.120 Where are you at?
00:05:32.740 So, the basic premise of Ben's speech is that truth matters.
00:05:39.280 And we all know that the World Economic Forum came out and said that the biggest concern in the world right now is misinformation and disinformation.
00:05:47.840 And he basically called out certain people for peddling myth truths, untruths, semi-truths, and then operating under the guise of, I'm just asking questions.
00:05:58.860 So, to me, Ben was very clear, very direct.
00:06:03.080 I was never a huge Ben Shapiro guy, and I was certainly never a big Tucker guy.
00:06:08.240 But between both of them, they're legends.
00:06:10.380 We get it.
00:06:11.360 To me, this comes down to one word, midterms.
00:06:14.880 Who is helping coalesce, build a coalition around 11 months from now?
00:06:22.180 We're going to have another election.
00:06:23.140 Are you helping bring people together to win midterms, to help Donald Trump and his agenda, or are you trying to tear it down?
00:06:31.800 So, there's a lot of infighting within MAGA, and there's a lot of people on the left that would love to see Nick Fuentes and Candace and even Tucker be the face of the new MAGA establishment party.
00:06:42.400 And in my opinion, Tucker, I'm sorry, Charlie Kirk wants no part of it.
00:06:48.000 The last thing that I'll say is this.
00:06:51.560 Ben said one thing, and I said it the other day about what the Torah says about criticizing a grieving widow.
00:07:00.380 Erica Kirk asked Candace to stop. 1.00
00:07:03.080 Candace went on, Pierce Morgan, and she said, I'm not going to stop.
00:07:05.840 As if she's the FBI and she's leading this investigation.
00:07:08.400 So, to me, at the very least, I'll say this.
00:07:12.580 Ben is the same person he's been for 20 years that we've seen him on air.
00:07:16.440 Tucker has flip-flopped, and he's fake.
00:07:18.580 And now, because he's an American, he goes and buys a property in Qatar.
00:07:24.680 Not in Detroit.
00:07:26.180 Not in Dallas.
00:07:27.460 Not in Boston.
00:07:28.720 Not in American cities.
00:07:30.220 He's buying a house in Qatar.
00:07:31.820 And why?
00:07:32.720 Because he's American.
00:07:33.920 God bless you, Tucker.
00:07:35.940 Vinny.
00:07:37.240 Well, the WEF, I don't know that we were going to, the World Economic Forum, I don't know we're going to be going by their guidance when it comes to disinformation and misinformation.
00:07:45.340 Everything that they push from global warming, fake disinformation, for COVID, you know, and now we're finding out that, you know, people are having cancer and kids are having heart problems.
00:07:53.180 And people are dying, and they lie to us.
00:07:55.100 So, I don't take any heed to the World Economic Forum.
00:07:57.700 But if we're trying to worry about the...
00:07:59.560 Are you saying that misinformation and disinformation isn't a thing?
00:08:02.140 No, of course.
00:08:02.760 Of course.
00:08:03.160 It's your job to go out there and look.
00:08:04.460 That's why nobody trusts the media.
00:08:06.740 That's why nobody trusts the government.
00:08:08.520 Nobody trusts anybody.
00:08:09.460 It's your job to go and look and find the information and fact check everything that you talk about.
00:08:14.860 Just like how I did earlier in the show.
00:08:16.400 My thing is this, Adam.
00:08:17.360 If we're worrying about the midterms, why would Ben Shapiro go up?
00:08:20.700 And from a turning point, USA, in front of everybody, the youth, everybody's...
00:08:24.160 I want something because the real enemy is the left.
00:08:28.560 It's the Gavin Newsoms.
00:08:29.740 It's the AOCs.
00:08:30.640 It's all those people.
00:08:31.460 Instead of using that 20 minutes to unite and say, guys, with all the differences, that's the mission.
00:08:37.760 That's the enemy. 0.99
00:08:38.720 You're going to talk shit about two other people and three other people and just bash everybody. 0.99
00:08:43.920 Okay? 0.99
00:08:44.520 To me...
00:08:45.180 The crowd seemed to like it.
00:08:46.220 They were cheering.
00:08:47.380 Half and half.
00:08:48.080 Whatever.
00:08:48.400 Booze and claps.
00:08:49.200 I don't know.
00:08:49.620 I wasn't there.
00:08:50.580 It's just that's your moment that Charlie fought for people to have debate.
00:08:55.980 Charlie fought...
00:08:56.800 Charlie's whole mission was debate, talk, not deep platforming.
00:09:00.580 He went to college campuses and said, okay, give me your argument.
00:09:04.460 Not, I don't want to hear you and I want you...
00:09:06.080 I think it's awesome that people are talking, that he talked to Nick Fuentes, that can't...
00:09:10.460 Let him talk.
00:09:12.060 Let him sit in front of Steven Crowder and say his point.
00:09:14.900 I learned more about him through his podcast than I ever knew about Nick Fuentes.
00:09:18.620 I don't think that if you want to unite and worry about the midterms, that's not the way
00:09:23.820 to do it.
00:09:24.480 Okay?
00:09:24.920 And then Tucker had to take his time out of his message and go against him too.
00:09:29.400 By the way, I don't trust...
00:09:30.700 When it comes to Tucker buying stuff in Qatar, that's the most random, weirdest thing that
00:09:35.580 didn't make any sense.
00:09:36.760 I'm American, but I'm going to buy land as a Christian.
00:09:40.500 He's openly devout Christian.
00:09:42.040 And a Muslim land. 0.99
00:09:43.440 I don't believe it.
00:09:44.560 I don't believe it.
00:09:45.540 Somebody might be getting paid. 0.86
00:09:46.720 But I just feel, with everything that's happening, they missed the freaking mark.
00:09:51.060 This should have been about America and the actual enemy, because the Democrats are laughing 0.98
00:09:54.860 their asses off. 0.96
00:09:55.860 Period. 0.99
00:09:56.720 That's my opinion.
00:09:57.500 By the way, a very reasonable take you just gave.
00:10:01.540 Thank you.
00:10:01.720 Very reasonable take.
00:10:02.740 Tom, your thoughts?
00:10:03.640 So, my thoughts is, Charlie Kirk, I agree with your debate point.
00:10:07.640 Charlie Kirk would go into the belly of the beast, go and put up that card table and put
00:10:12.620 up that tent on college campuses and attempt to say, what do you want to do?
00:10:16.700 What do you think about it?
00:10:17.280 No, no, no.
00:10:17.680 Come here.
00:10:18.040 No, no.
00:10:18.620 Come back.
00:10:18.980 I'll listen to you.
00:10:20.020 Tell me what you think.
00:10:20.720 Now, why do you think that?
00:10:21.920 Why do you think that?
00:10:23.260 Well, I think there's an economist here, and I think this is here.
00:10:26.580 And he would engage in this civil debate that was getting people to think.
00:10:31.580 And he was personally responsible for delivering Arizona and more.
00:10:36.560 We saw him at the inauguration, and he gave us the numbers.
00:10:39.480 They registered to vote more than 300,000 new voters in Arizona.
00:10:44.140 And if you take a look and just say 60% of those, just 60, not more than that.
00:10:50.140 Now, you know it has to be more than that.
00:10:51.500 But let's just put 60% of those votes voted for Trump, 47.
00:10:56.440 Guess what?
00:10:57.300 He moved Arizona.
00:10:59.580 Carrie Lake was in a war.
00:11:01.100 You saw what was going on with that guy, Ruben Gallagos, whatever his name is.
00:11:04.620 There was a war going on.
00:11:05.820 It was neck and neck.
00:11:06.740 There was all kinds of things.
00:11:08.400 The governor was ignoring what was happening in terms of in these neighborhoods in Tucson
00:11:14.500 where you had these immigrants that had come across that were squatting and things that were happening.
00:11:18.980 It was being ignored, and people were flipping out.
00:11:21.840 And yet, Arizona was razor thin.
00:11:23.940 And guess what?
00:11:24.860 Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA registered to vote, 300,000 people, and carried that state.
00:11:30.760 And he did it.
00:11:31.800 One card table, one person, one student, one debate at a time.
00:11:37.580 And I think that an opportunity is missed to bring people together and talk through that.
00:11:43.580 It's not that people don't have passionate points about, I don't like the fact that you're talking to Nick.
00:11:47.760 I don't think this.
00:11:48.620 I don't think that.
00:11:49.180 It's not that maybe those are individual points, that they have the freedom to have their points.
00:11:53.460 And I'll die for the freedom for them to make those points.
00:11:56.440 But I think there is a missed opportunity to bring this together because the midterms are critical,
00:12:02.300 not because of our side, their side.
00:12:04.200 Midterms are critical to move more thoughts and more hearts toward America and what it stands for
00:12:10.280 with rational debate that moves people across the line.
00:12:13.640 That's where I worry about the midterms.
00:12:15.520 And that's why I worry about it.
00:12:16.940 And I just don't like to see this.
00:12:19.500 I don't think it helps.
00:12:20.660 So to me, there's a couple things here that I want to go through on both of them.
00:12:25.460 One, when Ben Shapiro spoke, you know, you could tell he's speaking a lot of logic, prepared, intentional,
00:12:36.380 you know, to the point, punchy.
00:12:39.380 When Tucker spoke, Tucker's a more talented person than Ben Shapiro.
00:12:44.380 It's not even close.
00:12:45.680 Tucker is funny.
00:12:47.420 Tucker is charming, charismatic, persuasive.
00:12:51.320 He flirts with being manipulative as well, but persuasive.
00:12:54.460 And he knows how to work the stage.
00:12:57.780 He's talented.
00:12:59.040 He's capable.
00:13:00.200 Ben is brilliant.
00:13:01.600 But Tucker is talented and capable.
00:13:04.420 Tucker went emotion.
00:13:06.540 Tucker went heart.
00:13:08.160 Tucker talked love.
00:13:09.680 He mentioned the word love 20 times.
00:13:12.840 Ben is purely logic, okay, is what he's going to.
00:13:17.000 So talent-wise, Tucker's a better talent of delivering a message.
00:13:20.820 Not a question about it, okay?
00:13:22.800 More educated, read all this stuff.
00:13:24.860 Maybe you put Ben there ahead of him.
00:13:27.040 You know, he probably knows more about the Constitution and things like that.
00:13:29.620 Yeah, you can put that category in there.
00:13:32.360 Where was Ben right?
00:13:33.580 But the part that Ben was right in when he said, you know, even Charlie reached out to Dinesh and said, why would you debate Nick Fuentes?
00:13:43.900 Because in the debate between Dinesh and Nick, Nick won.
00:13:47.580 I don't know if you guys saw the debate or not.
00:13:49.120 Nick was a winner.
00:13:50.960 He came out the winner of that debate between the two of them.
00:13:53.900 And Dinesh came out as the older guy that I know what I'm talking about.
00:13:56.780 You don't know who you are.
00:13:57.520 You're a kid.
00:13:58.020 And so Charlie's like, what are you doing?
00:14:00.140 So as much as Charlie is for debate, Charlie wasn't for everybody because Nick was a disruptor to him.
00:14:08.480 So even Charlie had lines, okay, on who we would have.
00:14:12.760 Nick didn't speak at the event, okay?
00:14:14.780 Nick has never spoken at this event.
00:14:17.120 I don't think he'll ever be invited to speak at this event.
00:14:18.240 Yeah, but what I'm trying to say to you is there's a reason why he didn't.
00:14:22.540 So to that point, Ben has got a very, very good point on what he's saying with Charlie, okay,
00:14:28.700 and what Candace and some of these other guys are doing with the topics.
00:14:32.800 And then, by the way, you know who else Ben called out?
00:14:35.020 Megyn Kelly.
00:14:35.660 Ben also called out Megyn Kelly.
00:14:37.100 There was a direct call out to Megyn Kelly.
00:14:38.940 He says, look, I'm a big fan of Megyn Kelly, but even Megyn Kelly came out and said X, Y, Z.
00:14:43.260 And I'm not with that either.
00:14:44.180 He says, what do you mean?
00:14:45.200 You know, all she's doing is, I don't know, maybe she's going through stuff with mom and all this other stuff.
00:14:48.740 She's talking about Candace, yes.
00:14:50.020 So I actually, I have to tell you, Ben came across as the more mature guy here.
00:15:02.600 But it's like you're married to Ben, but you're attracted to Charlie.
00:15:08.900 I don't know if that makes sense or not.
00:15:10.920 It's like Ben is the husband, but Charlie's the guy you follow.
00:15:14.080 And you're like, dude, Charlie's a freaking, you know, not Charlie, what do you call it?
00:15:17.540 Tucker is a guy. 0.90
00:15:19.220 It's kind of like him.
00:15:19.920 You're attracted to Tucker, but you're married to Ben, okay?
00:15:23.060 Because Ben is what?
00:15:24.100 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
00:15:25.460 I get that.
00:15:26.780 In regards to, you know, Tucker, he got 45 minutes.
00:15:31.260 Ben got 20.
00:15:33.200 I think Ben probably donated his time.
00:15:35.660 I think both of them probably donated their time.
00:15:37.760 But if you look at the flyer, guess who Turning Point USA put as the first picture of speaker?
00:15:44.120 It's Trump.
00:15:44.880 Guess who's two?
00:15:45.680 I don't know if Trump is speaking at this one or not.
00:15:48.400 He may or may not be speaking at this one.
00:15:50.260 He probably is.
00:15:51.520 Can you put the poster, the big one?
00:15:52.880 The second one, Rob.
00:15:53.580 The second one.
00:15:54.160 Yeah.
00:15:54.620 Zoom in.
00:15:55.900 They put J.D.
00:15:57.140 J.D.
00:15:57.680 Then they put, no, the second one, Rob.
00:15:59.440 The one you had.
00:15:59.980 Yeah.
00:16:00.480 They put J.D.
00:16:01.920 And then it's Erica.
00:16:02.760 Erica.
00:16:03.240 And then it's Tucker.
00:16:04.280 Wow.
00:16:04.700 Then it's Bannon.
00:16:05.480 Then it's Junior.
00:16:06.680 Then it's Tulsi.
00:16:07.520 Then it's Megyn Kelly.
00:16:08.440 Then it's Jesse.
00:16:09.820 Then it's, I can't see that face.
00:16:11.160 Ben is there.
00:16:11.360 Now, who's the guy before Ben?
00:16:13.440 Rob, who's that guy?
00:16:14.340 Greg Gutfeld.
00:16:15.500 Greg Gutfeld.
00:16:16.400 Then they put Ben.
00:16:17.940 And what do you think that ranking of pictures is?
00:16:20.860 You think it's just accidental by last name?
00:16:23.100 No.
00:16:23.520 It's by who has most influence today.
00:16:26.940 J.D. is first.
00:16:28.020 So Erica chose that list and that ranking. 0.99
00:16:30.640 I agree.
00:16:31.100 That's who makes that call.
00:16:32.900 So Erica still chose Tucker head of Ben by seven people.
00:16:37.740 That's not accidental.
00:16:39.160 So why is that?
00:16:40.340 There's still a relationship there.
00:16:42.160 Okay.
00:16:42.340 There's still an affinity there.
00:16:43.960 There's still behind the scenes where they have a love for Tucker.
00:16:46.260 So don't get it twisted.
00:16:48.120 One got 45.
00:16:48.980 One got 20 for a reason.
00:16:51.360 And even though Ben and them, I think they gave a million dollars to Turning Point USA.
00:16:56.760 And they were the first ones to do the Charlie Kirk podcast.
00:16:59.320 I think they were the first one that do it.
00:17:00.640 If I'm not mistaken, Rob, it was Ben.
00:17:02.140 It was Michael Knowles.
00:17:03.960 And I think the crew showed up.
00:17:05.360 And with Andrew and, you know, Andrew and the crew.
00:17:08.900 Andrew, how do you say his last name?
00:17:10.360 Colvert?
00:17:11.040 Andrew Colvitt.
00:17:12.320 Colvitt.
00:17:12.800 Yeah, Andrew Colvitt.
00:17:13.620 So, yeah.
00:17:14.480 But by the way, this is the bigger thing to be thinking about is there is two philosophies here.
00:17:22.680 The one philosophy is they're all getting ready for something.
00:17:29.520 They're all getting ready for something.
00:17:32.100 It's power grabs right now.
00:17:34.740 Who's going to be the face of the conservative movement?
00:17:38.280 It's a power grab.
00:17:39.780 It's a fight.
00:17:41.120 Who's going to take it?
00:17:42.660 I really don't think Tucker cares to take it.
00:17:45.320 I don't think so either.
00:17:45.940 And I don't think he's the guy, to be honest with you.
00:17:49.320 I don't think he's the guy.
00:17:50.840 I don't think he's the guy.
00:17:52.140 I do think he is in so many people's ear.
00:17:57.780 And he is so – if he wants to – there was a guy I did business with.
00:18:02.300 He was very good at the following line.
00:18:05.240 You ready?
00:18:06.340 So good at doing this.
00:18:07.860 And then one day he called and he and I had a conversation about it.
00:18:10.760 He would call and say – so we'd say, oh, my God, you see what Patrick's doing?
00:18:13.700 You see what Patrick's doing?
00:18:14.380 You see what Patrick's doing with PHP?
00:18:15.760 See how much it's growing?
00:18:16.480 And the insurance industry was like we were the conversation of town. 0.99
00:18:20.080 And everyone's like, holy shit, this thing's growing. 0.97
00:18:22.480 You say, yeah, but – they're doing great, but – 0.98
00:18:26.520 Oh, the yeah, but guys?
00:18:27.520 And so he created wedges – is that the right word, Tom?
00:18:33.140 Is that wedges like against others?
00:18:35.680 I do think Tucker's playing that game behind closed doors.
00:18:38.120 Little shades here and here.
00:18:39.160 I think Tucker's like, yeah, be careful with that guy.
00:18:41.980 Be careful with this guy.
00:18:43.920 And I think he's doing that behind closed doors.
00:18:46.880 He gives me the vibes that he's fully capable of doing that.
00:18:49.080 Of course.
00:18:51.480 I think Ben is doing that publicly.
00:18:54.400 I think Tucker's doing that privately.
00:18:57.240 I think Ben is doing that publicly.
00:18:59.000 Tucker's doing that privately.
00:19:00.560 And he's working overtime on that side.
00:19:04.140 So, you know, where it's kind of like, I don't want to have the influence over the thing,
00:19:08.220 but, man, I want to disrupt and just kind of shake things up, just to shake things up,
00:19:11.540 to say I still have that influence.
00:19:13.360 I think that's kind of where Tucker's at right now.
00:19:15.960 And for me, as we're going through this next phase, it's going to be interesting
00:19:19.720 because one of two things is going to happen.
00:19:22.400 Megan, I don't know if that's going to happen, but Megan Kelly is, there's got to be a synergist
00:19:36.060 in this community right now.
00:19:38.080 I don't know who that synergist is.
00:19:40.220 It's not Ben.
00:19:40.920 It's not Tucker.
00:19:41.740 Neither one of them are synergists.
00:19:43.140 It was Charlie.
00:19:44.280 It was Charlie.
00:19:45.060 No, no.
00:19:45.300 I'm saying now.
00:19:46.020 Like, who is that person now to play that card?
00:19:50.580 I don't know.
00:19:51.820 Vinny's got a special announcement that I want Vinny to share with you guys.
00:19:55.400 Go ahead, Vinny.
00:19:56.260 So, guys, as you guys know, the Faith Over Fear line, we had the Faith Over Fear shirt.
00:20:00.760 We just came out.
00:20:01.600 This just came out.
00:20:02.400 It's live right now.
00:20:03.520 Pat Ward is just sick.
00:20:04.420 The Faith Over Fear hat.
00:20:05.620 I'm trying to figure out.
00:20:06.500 Do we have the symbol here?
00:20:07.640 We have the cross here.
00:20:08.540 Hebrews 11, one on the back. 0.68
00:20:11.140 Rob, can you click on the hat and show the pictures?
00:20:12.960 Yeah, let everybody see this.
00:20:14.020 Guys, it's embroidered.
00:20:14.800 By the way, I only wear Yankee hats.
00:20:17.620 Oh, yeah.
00:20:17.900 So, I only wear Yankee hats.
00:20:19.280 But, guys, you can see the future looks bright on the bottom.
00:20:21.660 This is stitched.
00:20:22.760 Hebrews 11, 11, 11, one, that, and then the cross on the side.
00:20:26.600 Like I said, I only wear Yankee hats, but.
00:20:28.060 It's 3D embroidery. 0.92
00:20:29.140 Yo, no, it's ridiculous.
00:20:30.060 And I just want, like, this is, like, every time something like this happens, like, the hats finally come in, we're at a pivotal place where, right now, with everything that's happening with Christians in Nigeria, as you're seeing what's happening in Europe, you're seeing what's happening in Australia, 0.58
00:20:43.280 the enemy wants us to be afraid.
00:20:45.440 I don't know if you guys saw this.
00:20:46.300 Australia, France, Germany, they just canceled all their Christmas celebrations, all their freaking New Year stuff because they're afraid.
00:20:53.740 I'm telling you guys right now, I've said this before.
00:20:55.200 In the Bible, 365 times, it says, do not fear, okay?
00:21:01.580 Just have faith.
00:21:02.620 And when it comes to having faith in Christ, there's one story that I want to say, and you know this.
00:21:07.200 In Matthew chapter 20, I think, verse 9, or 9, verse 20 to 22, there's a, Jesus is walking through Galilee, and everybody, he's healing people.
00:21:16.720 People are touching him and grabbing him, and he's just trying to get through the crowd.
00:21:19.480 And there was a woman that had an issue of bleeding for 12 years.
00:21:22.620 They believe it was like a menstrual situation.
00:21:25.420 She says to herself, and this is in Scripture, all I have to do is touch the hem of his robe, and I'll be healed, okay?
00:21:33.020 So she crawls through this crowd, and she just reaches and touches a string that's hanging off Jesus' robe, and he stops in the crowd, and he goes, who touched me?
00:21:42.620 All right?
00:21:42.940 And Peter and everybody's like, Jesus, everybody's touching.
00:21:46.080 He goes, no, no, no, who touched me?
00:21:48.860 He said he felt the power leave his body, and he looks, and the woman is on the floor, instantly healed, and she's crying, Pat.
00:21:56.160 And she stands up, and she goes, Jesus, you healed me.
00:21:58.920 And he looks at her, and he goes, I didn't heal you.
00:22:00.720 It was your faith that healed you.
00:22:02.800 Think about that.
00:22:04.000 Think about that.
00:22:04.660 It's powerful.
00:22:04.960 Just touching his clothes, and she was healed, and that's belief.
00:22:08.740 And I want to say one last thing.
00:22:10.240 When Jesus was in Nazareth, he was powerless.
00:22:13.200 He couldn't do any miracles.
00:22:14.560 And you know why?
00:22:15.640 He said because it was their disbelief, because they didn't believe.
00:22:19.460 So your faith is what creates the miracles in your life, and I think this hat is that message, and this is letting everybody know.
00:22:25.760 I'm not afraid.
00:22:27.200 We're not afraid.
00:22:28.040 I'm a Christian.
00:22:28.740 I wear it proud, and I want people to know that.
00:22:30.740 And, yeah, that's it, and it's live right now.
00:22:33.020 I love it.
00:22:33.540 And, you know, you can go to vteemerge.com, place the order, get the hat, get the shirt, get the shoe.
00:22:38.080 All of those we'll put over there for you.
00:22:39.660 Yesterday, I had these pastors that flew in from Australia, and he said the most powerful line.
00:22:43.520 Two pastors, the guy's from Egypt.
00:22:45.540 His name is Martin Sidro and his wife, Millicent.
00:22:49.260 And he says, when I was a kid, and my dad and I were talking about becoming a pastor one day, he says, my father told us one thing.
00:22:55.840 If you want to be a pastor, you can't fear.
00:22:58.760 If you fear, don't be a pastor.
00:23:01.320 One doesn't go without the other.
00:23:02.580 You have to be very strong about your faith that you have.
00:23:05.160 So, for those of you that are comfortable this Christmas season, New Year season, going into 2026 with faith, put that on.
00:23:12.460 Walk around.
00:23:12.960 You'd be amazed how many people stop by and say, hey, man, I'm with you.
00:23:15.940 Hey, man, I'm with you.
00:23:16.820 I love the stories of just winks with people that are, you know, fans of the show or, you know, they're looking at each other like, man, you're also Future Looks Pride.
00:23:26.020 You're also Faith Over Fear.
00:23:26.960 You're also Valuetainment.
00:23:28.060 Me, too.
00:23:29.040 I'm one as well.
00:23:29.880 So, go place the order or two or three and gift it to some of the people in your community.
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