Valuetainment - May 12, 2026


＂China Is BLEEDING Out＂ - Trump KILLS Iran Deal Days Before Xi Summit


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00:00:30.000 Trump calls Iran's response to a U.S. proposal to end war totally unacceptable.
00:00:35.980 This is a BBC story, Tom.
00:00:37.380 Rob, I think you got a tweet or something on that to read.
00:00:41.720 Iran's semi-official Sanem news agency said Tehran's proposal sent via Pakistan,
00:00:45.660 which has served as a mediator, included an immediate end to the war on all fronts,
00:00:50.160 a halt to U.S. naval blockade, and guarantees of no further attacks on Iran,
00:00:54.820 a ceasefire meant to facilitate talks to end the war launched by the U.S. and Israel in February
00:01:00.000 has been largely observed despite occasional exchange fires.
00:01:02.500 So while this has taken place, here's what the president had to say.
00:01:06.360 This is the tweet that came out.
00:01:07.580 I have just read the response from Iran's so-called representative.
00:01:11.260 I don't like it. Totally unacceptable.
00:01:12.760 Thank you for your attention to this matter.
00:01:14.600 Tom, how much progress is being made right now?
00:01:17.280 Because the president, Pezeshkian, from Iran's, did not directly reference to the proposal 0.83
00:01:22.780 but said we will never bow our heads before the enemy. 0.81
00:01:26.500 And if talk of dialogue or negotiation arises, it does not mean surrender or retreat.
00:01:31.400 Trump posted on Truth Social.
00:01:32.700 I've just read the response.
00:01:33.920 And Trump also said they can call us.
00:01:35.460 No one's calling us.
00:01:36.260 They can call us.
00:01:36.980 So Trump is saying if you want to do something, you can give us a call.
00:01:40.440 And they're not saying at any time they're going to start losing money to be able to pay their military personnel,
00:01:45.280 their government personnel.
00:01:46.140 And then when they do, they're going to get desperate.
00:01:48.820 But you hear different stories.
00:01:50.040 Tom, your thoughts. 0.86
00:01:51.120 We've been waiting for Iran to respond as a rational actor and get desperate now for three weeks. 0.99
00:01:57.160 They haven't because they're not a rational actor. 0.65
00:01:59.740 And you've got things like the British over the weekend said that they were going to send a frigate to the Gulf to help with the safe passage of ships.
00:02:09.600 Did you see that, Pat?
00:02:10.600 Yeah.
00:02:10.980 They're like, even the British are saying, OK, we're going to send a ship and we're going to join you to create a safe passage patrol here.
00:02:17.400 Price of oil today went back up $3.
00:02:19.480 Now we're back up to $98.33.
00:02:21.920 And the closer we are to $100, the more I feel like we're not getting there.
00:02:27.220 And that's futures, Rob.
00:02:29.520 Go WTI.
00:02:31.020 And on the other side of it is you've got him openly saying, nobody's calling us.
00:02:38.400 Yeah, 97.29.
00:02:39.560 It's almost 98.33 on the other side.
00:02:43.200 So here we are back to 97.50, 98 for oil.
00:02:46.680 and he said nobody's calling.
00:02:49.500 And so I hope that means that Whitcoff is talking.
00:02:52.780 But look at who is trying to help. 1.00
00:02:55.160 Pakistan sends a message. 0.53
00:02:56.840 Hey, Mr. President Trump, will you please look at this? 0.96
00:03:00.060 If that's truth, then that's the way it happened.
00:03:02.080 And then the British saying, hey, we'll send a ship.
00:03:04.220 Seems like everybody else is saying, can we get moving here?
00:03:08.080 Can we get this fixed?
00:03:09.200 But we're sitting there every day saying, listen, we don't like that.
00:03:15.360 We reject that.
00:03:16.680 And, boy, if you keep this up, they'll be held to pay.
00:03:20.660 How long is that circle?
00:03:22.060 That just seems like we're spinning a circle right there.
00:03:24.260 It's kind of frustrating.
00:03:25.500 Adam.
00:03:25.720 Well, we're going to be playing the wait in the game a little while longer on Iran
00:03:29.160 because I don't see this situation ending anytime soon.
00:03:32.900 So you're saying the short-term pain isn't going to be short-term.
00:03:34.860 It's long-term pain for the long-term game.
00:03:36.900 Short-term pain, long-term game.
00:03:37.620 Why?
00:03:37.960 Because the biggest thing that's going on in the world this week is Trump's about to go meet with Xi.
00:03:42.840 And there's going to be two major conversations with Xi.
00:03:44.960 And one of them is regarding Iran.
00:03:46.680 Because, believe it or not, this is hurting China's economy worse than it's hurting America's economy.
00:03:51.640 We don't get any oil or goods out of the Strait of Hormuz.
00:03:55.520 China gets all that and then some from the Strait of Hormuz. 1.00
00:03:58.720 So if you're Iran and you have no problem being the world's bad guy, you don't care about your people. 0.97
00:04:07.460 Your people are basically broke and penniless and starving for food and water. 1.00
00:04:12.140 They don't care.
00:04:12.900 uh if you're willing to terrorize the entire world just imagine what you're going to do to
00:04:17.240 your own people so i don't think anything's going to happen this week uh continue to pay a little
00:04:22.740 bit more at the pump and let's see what the outcome of this trump she meeting is when one
00:04:27.660 of the cornerstones is what do you want to do with china and maybe maybe trump and she figures
00:04:32.780 something out diplomatically speaking but uh iran is not breaking it in the terms of that
00:04:38.520 they're willing to concede to an agreement because why would they they don't care they're willing to
00:04:43.540 die on this hill and as long as they survive they feel like they've won so don't expect any news
00:04:51.080 anytime soon there i think there's a high likelihood after this trump she meeting if there's
00:04:56.840 nothing established that they go out and do something militarily because right now it's
00:05:01.240 just economically i think there's the china does something no no no that the united states does
00:05:06.660 something again militarily whether it's carg island whether it's going out and taking out
00:05:10.580 more people or more things setting a precedent i but uh i just don't i don't think that taking
00:05:16.360 out people worked they thought taking out all these leaders i just felt like trump
00:05:20.540 was i don't know i i don't know the like the misconception of just taking out these guys
00:05:25.720 because adam once the one's gone the next one's coming up it's just like tom bennett perfect
00:05:30.520 this is just going to be a cycle that's going to keep on members i agree with you there are
00:05:34.940 certain people like so for instance uh the 20 nuclear scientists that they took out
00:05:41.480 that basically were spearheading their entire nuclear program you take these guys out yeah you
00:05:47.180 got a problem because still the cornerstone of all their uh you know negotiations everything
00:05:53.220 is the nuclear thing the enriching uranium you take out their basically uh nuclear capacity to
00:05:59.200 enrich and their scientists yeah i'd say that makes a major difference i agree with you on
00:06:03.900 the ayatollah now they got the gay parent son or whatever i agree the irgc is still there the what
00:06:08.480 is it called the bastille what is it called yeah i i look they're still i don't i don't know all 0.75
00:06:14.980 the stories behind so this is my feedback's coming based on pure podcast or pundit thought
00:06:21.780 just my ideas on what i'm saying um you know you know what the challenge is now vinnie is when you
00:06:29.540 were there attacking and we were playing offense and the temperature was super high and the anger
00:06:36.960 towards the president was very high and the republicans was very high and then we went cease 0.87
00:06:41.880 fire to try to lower the temperature and be able to figure something out pakistan obviously doesn't
00:06:47.440 have any influence over iran for iran to want to negotiate and nothing's happening with pakistan
00:06:51.960 where they call them and say hey let's figure something out let's do something so pakistan
00:06:56.860 to me is not an influential player here they're just the influence to say we're holding a meeting
00:07:01.040 at Islamabad what a great name so so they're just they're just being a facilitator but you're not a
00:07:08.520 facilitator that has any influence because Iran's not listening to you so me from the U.S. standpoint
00:07:13.220 I would look at that number two what you were doing you were creating pressure there was tension
00:07:19.160 There was uprising that if you have to restart that again, you're now going back to the level of hates you had four weeks ago, five weeks ago, six weeks, whatever the timeline was when we were actually playing offense and attacking and doing certain things.
00:07:35.040 if you don't
00:07:37.540 this tweet of every single time
00:07:40.140 totally unacceptable
00:07:41.060 totally this, totally that
00:07:42.400 if it's Trump's playbook
00:07:45.220 of hey, he kept hitting boats
00:07:47.380 there was drugs on that boat
00:07:49.120 Venezuela, he kept hitting boats
00:07:51.140 it's not acceptable, and also middle of the night
00:07:53.640 hey, surprise, we got Maduro 0.99
00:07:55.300 oh shit, okay, so they've been working behind closed doors 0.99
00:07:57.560 so if I'm a betting man 1.00
00:07:59.640 behind closed doors, they're working on something
00:08:01.940 that the average person
00:08:03.720 does not know about.
00:08:05.260 What that something is, I don't know.
00:08:07.560 But if they have to go back to attacking again, Vinny,
00:08:10.800 they never needed to stop.
00:08:12.520 If you're choking them, it's kind of like,
00:08:14.440 remember that one fight where the guy has him.
00:08:16.920 By the way, great UFC card.
00:08:18.300 Shout out to Strickland for winning the way he did.
00:08:20.740 But you know how sometimes you have a person
00:08:22.380 and you see the guy backing off and then he ends up losing?
00:08:26.160 Like you have the guy.
00:08:27.260 We recently, a UFC fight in Miami,
00:08:29.040 the guy's killing him with the kicks.
00:08:30.840 The guy tears his, I don't know what he tore on his.
00:08:32.680 It looked like it tore his knee.
00:08:33.720 and then he's like just plain relaxed.
00:08:36.520 He could have finished the fight, and the guy knocks him out, and it's over.
00:08:39.440 So I feel like U.S. is maybe doing that, and if you have to get back in,
00:08:44.760 I don't think it's going to be a good look if they get back in there
00:08:46.780 because now he's – remember he delayed the meeting he was supposed to have
00:08:49.500 with G. in March?
00:08:50.460 Now they're doing it this Wednesday, Rob.
00:08:52.000 I think you said Wednesday.
00:08:53.020 Yep.
00:08:54.440 And he's going in there with what victories?
00:08:57.460 What is he going in there with?
00:08:59.280 Because one of them was Trump was trying to do a 10% tariff.
00:09:02.080 Did you guys see the 10% tariff thing?
00:09:03.560 That was a Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional because he came out and said, you know, where is that on the unconstitutional?
00:09:11.500 Yeah, there it is. Donald Trump's 10 percent global tariff ruled illegal by U.S. court, illegal by U.S. court.
00:09:17.700 That 10 percent, you know, who is he playing that against? Most likely China and others.
00:09:23.520 So now you mean to tell me that the courts this quickly said no.
00:09:27.520 So if they're taking all his leverage cards away, now what is he going to be going in there with?
00:09:33.080 He's got to go there with something.
00:09:34.940 He's got to go there with something.
00:09:36.540 So while Bibi was being interviewed on this, was it the 60 Minutes, Rob, or what interview was it?
00:09:42.300 60 Minutes.
00:09:43.220 He was asked about the question of did China provide some military weapons to Iran,
00:09:48.780 and it was the only thing while he was being interviewed, he said,
00:09:53.280 I'm going to keep my mouth closed because you know Mossad knows if China gave him anything.
00:09:59.380 What do you think are the chances that Mossad knows exactly what weapons are?
00:10:01.940 Okay, so now watch it.
00:10:03.300 This was the only part that he was a little bit uncomfortable.
00:10:05.480 Go ahead, Rob.
00:10:06.820 Do you really want to have a fanatic regime with nuclear weapons 0.83
00:10:10.960 that is committed to Islamist revolutionary revolutions?
00:10:16.320 That's what Iran's constitution says. 0.98
00:10:19.740 We're committed to export the Islamist revolution. 0.96
00:10:21.340 So China should reconsider. 0.99
00:10:22.380 So China should think about.
00:10:24.700 Because it's apparently doing it right now.
00:10:26.960 Could be, could be. 0.86
00:10:28.060 I don't want to speak for China.
00:10:29.240 I don't want to speak also for President Trump.
00:10:30.240 But you have eyes and ears on this.
00:10:34.440 Yeah, well, you know, but I also have a closed mouth when necessary.
00:10:42.320 That says a lot.
00:10:44.480 So you see that conversation?
00:10:46.880 Long pause.
00:10:47.660 So to me, this meeting, everything that's going on with Iran going to China,
00:10:52.180 he has to be thinking about what things will be discussed,
00:10:56.780 what leverages he has, what things he can give to Xi.
00:10:59.620 He's already got a chokehold on him with Panama, with Strait of Hormuz.
00:11:04.980 China needs that oil.
00:11:07.080 So he can go in and say, I'm going to work with you, do a favor for you,
00:11:10.720 if you do this for me with Iran.
00:11:14.040 How interested?
00:11:15.280 I'm trying to figure out, because I see where your brain is going.
00:11:17.980 What is Trump going to go in there with?
00:11:19.660 What's the thing where he's going to go, hey, listen, I know you need this.
00:11:22.800 He does have a lot of leverage.
00:11:24.240 But every year, Tom knows this.
00:11:27.600 Every year we ran PHP.
00:11:28.960 every time we had a big event from the moment the event was over with till next year's event
00:11:34.480 guess what i'm working on for 12 months what am i working on tom growing the next year's event no
00:11:40.160 what am i looking at what do i want announcements all i'm doing is new announcements at the vault
00:11:45.820 conference not at our annual convention that we have so if i left an event and i have my next
00:11:52.200 event coming up with my guys i want an announcement at the next event then if i'm going so it's
00:11:56.500 constant announcement about progress that you're making so he's constantly working on announcement
00:12:01.980 to be making what announcement is he going to be making out china i don't know he he's he's working
00:12:07.160 right now behind clothes by the way the next 48 hours don't be surprised if you get a crazy
00:12:13.280 announcement made from trump or the white house to to claim a victory on something i don't know
00:12:19.340 what it is but i'm expecting one of those tweets to say great news you know such and such we just
00:12:24.660 brokered a deal with papa papa that's going to create this many i'm expecting something like
00:12:29.100 that next 48 hours adam regarding china yeah well this is a big big meeting this is the this is
00:12:35.460 probably the biggest meeting in the world yeah there's so many storylines that have gotten
00:12:38.540 unfortunately buried behind everything that's attached to israel israel and gaza we completely
00:12:44.080 forgot about the entire war in russia and ukraine which i don't know if you saw what's happening
00:12:49.220 there they announced some sort of ceasefire which is the first we've seen in something like that
00:12:53.240 We've also forgot that China is our number one enemy. 0.57
00:12:56.580 What Trump wants to do, which is, you know, major kudos for him taking down Iran and what he's doing there.
00:13:02.240 But he hopefully wanted to pivot immediately to get to China because Israel and Iran are going to have a longstanding thing.
00:13:09.520 They're neighbors. They're not going anywhere. They're going to have their internal issues.
00:13:13.220 And obviously, Israel is clearly kicking Iran's butt. 0.71
00:13:16.440 But Trump was hoping to pivot from Iran to China because that is our number one geopolitical threat in the world today. 0.85
00:13:23.240 So he's going into this meeting with some L's, but also with some W's, with some W's. 0.74
00:13:32.000 Because don't forget, the Strait of Hormuz is affecting who more than the United States?
00:13:37.300 China.
00:13:37.880 China is desperately being affected by the Strait of Hormuz.
00:13:41.920 And if you look at the Wall Street Journal, if you want to book up the cover story,
00:13:46.960 it says Iran war hangs over the China summit.
00:13:49.960 Trump prepares to meet Xi Jinping this week.
00:13:52.340 He's eager to move forward from the conflict that is hurting the domestic power and global economy.
00:13:57.220 And it talks about some great things that China is doing, but how their economy is starting to crumble.
00:14:03.000 How China is feeling the effects of this war way more than the United States.
00:14:07.620 There you go. So we'll see. We'll see what's going to happen here.
00:14:12.420 I do think in a major way they both want the same thing.
00:14:18.180 I do think in a major way they both want the same thing
00:14:20.720 because China relies on their export to go.
00:14:23.600 And so they need both the import of the oil
00:14:25.540 and the export of their products that they have.
00:14:28.480 So, you know, again, like I've said this for the last, you know, 10 years,
00:14:32.940 I trust this guy negotiating on behalf of you and I,
00:14:35.400 the American people, in the rooms more than anybody else.
00:14:38.740 And let's see. Let's see what happens with that meeting.
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