Valuetainment - May 01, 2025


＂China's Charm Offensive＂ - Trump & Xi’s SECRET Meeting QUESTIONED As China Disputes Call


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Trump claims to have had a phone call with China's President Xi Jinping. China denies it, and the mainstream media is quick to point the finger at the Chinese government. What does this mean for the stock market and the rest of the world?

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00:00:00.000 So Xi, from China, apparently called to want to negotiate a deal.
00:00:05.340 Go for it.
00:00:09.320 Volume.
00:00:11.140 I don't want to comment on that, but I've spoken to him many times.
00:00:15.480 Yeah.
00:00:17.320 From Japan.
00:00:18.720 From Japan, I'm getting along very well with Japan.
00:00:22.040 We're very close to a deal.
00:00:23.600 I'll be meeting with the Italians.
00:00:30.600 Yes.
00:00:31.380 Your prime minister?
00:00:34.000 Oh, it's possible.
00:00:38.300 Is this the Time magazine, Rob?
00:00:40.440 So the Time magazine is a print interview, but right in the beginning of the clip, they ask him, have you spoken to president?
00:00:46.540 But he didn't say anything.
00:00:47.740 He says, I don't want to get into that.
00:00:48.720 He said I've spoken to him multiple times.
00:00:49.580 Yeah, multiple times.
00:00:50.540 Right, but that doesn't mean that they've spoken multiple times today.
00:00:54.940 Where is the Time magazine one that he says they spoke?
00:00:57.600 Because that is just a quote from the actual article.
00:01:00.020 Trump claimed in a Time magazine interview that Chinese President Xi called him to discuss trade negotiations, stating he's called.
00:01:08.860 And I don't think that's a sign of weakness on his behalf.
00:01:11.860 Despite the Chinese foreign minister's assertion that reports of such talks were fake news and that China and the U.S. are not having any consolation or negotiation on tariffs.
00:01:23.820 Trump initiated the trade conflict with a 34 percent tariff on China, later raised it to 145 and ended the de minimis commerce loophole, prompting China to claim it refuses negotiations for a more favorable U.S. deal.
00:01:39.540 Trump expressed confidence in reaching deal, saying, oh, there's a number at which they feel comfortable, but argued that China's trade surplus, which he called a trade deficit of $2 trillion, I considered that a loss is unsustainable and added you can't let them make a trillion dollars from us.
00:01:57.140 So he's still staying on that with the trade deficit with them in China in regards to this.
00:02:02.260 Tom, how much how much of this saying that China has reached out is trying to get the market out there to talk?
00:02:09.480 And how much of that is a good move, bad move?
00:02:11.680 What would you say to it?
00:02:13.540 Well, they're trying to make sentiment statements.
00:02:16.100 And if the president is making this as a sentiment statement, in other words, you put a float out there to the market, you saw the way the stock market reacted a week ago when J.D. Vance had a very productive two days in India.
00:02:30.260 The stock market loved it.
00:02:31.920 Ah, tariff situation calming down.
00:02:35.220 Massive, you know, country in India coming to make a deal with the U.S. 0.96
00:02:39.940 Market loves it.
00:02:40.820 Well, so, too, will the market like anything that turns down the heat of China versus USA.
00:02:47.320 And if it really happened, you can say it.
00:02:50.620 But if it didn't happen, you got to be really careful about going out there and intimating that it that it happened.
00:02:57.560 Because the market, number one, is going to react.
00:03:00.260 But number two, the mainstream media is looking for any crevice or crack to say, aha, you're putting the spin on me.
00:03:06.360 Yeah, the spin meister is accusing you of spin.
00:03:08.240 So do I think there are ongoing conversations with the various ambassadorial levels and trade partners with China?
00:03:16.240 Yeah, I do.
00:03:17.240 Did Xi and Trump have a phone call back and forth that says, hey, I want to talk about trade?
00:03:22.660 I don't know.
00:03:23.900 China came pretty quick to the whip there to say, nope, we didn't have that phone call.
00:03:28.320 You started this.
00:03:29.640 You ratcheted it up.
00:03:30.960 And we're concerned about it.
00:03:32.680 So they came out with a full denial either to make him look bad, even though, remember, they don't want to look bad.
00:03:38.380 So if they had a confidential phone call with him and says, hey, let's talk about it, let's get this calmed down.
00:03:43.080 And then he said something.
00:03:45.400 Let's say it happened that way.
00:03:46.360 And then he says something.
00:03:47.620 China's like, you're not going to make us look weak like we called you.
00:03:50.800 And so they go out and deny it, even if it was true.
00:03:53.100 That's China. 0.88
00:03:53.860 They would absolutely deny it.
00:03:54.960 On this side, if there were conversations and he kind of stepped on that, that's kind of, that's a risky thing to do.
00:04:01.780 Rob, can you play the clip of Gordon Chen saying what he's saying about what he thinks is going on here?
00:04:07.900 Gordon, first of all, why would China say that they haven't had any talks with the United States if, in fact, President Trump is telling the truth?
00:04:18.420 I think it's because Xi Jinping has staked his legitimacy on having surpassed the U.S.
00:04:23.940 And so it's very difficult for him to then say, oh, we're bowing to pressure from President Trump and we're going to talk about tariffs and other things.
00:04:32.300 So I think he's boxed himself in.
00:04:34.120 But in general, since he's become China's ruler in late 2012, he has made the hostile, made the political system hostile, where only the most belligerent answers are considered to be acceptable.
00:04:46.000 So he is a very, very thin line which he can walk right now.
00:04:50.560 Okay, so if they spoke, Trump would, if this was me, I'd say, hey, Xi, when I'm asked if we've spoken, I'm going to tell the market that we spoke.
00:05:03.200 Are you good with that?
00:05:04.740 So he either said yes or no.
00:05:07.020 If he said no, you leak it, you lost negotiation trust.
00:05:11.460 If he said yes, you leak it, they say that never happened, you lost it with me because now you're playing games.
00:05:20.520 Either way, so it's either, it's three situations.
00:05:23.820 The call never happened.
00:05:24.980 President just said it to let the market sting, the call happened.
00:05:28.040 Okay, which you can sit there and speculate what you think.
00:05:30.900 The call happened.
00:05:31.920 At the end, somebody said, I'm going to tell the public that we spoke.
00:05:35.680 Are you okay with it?
00:05:36.800 No, if you didn't do it, well, why did you say it?
00:05:40.880 I said, don't do it.
00:05:42.260 So there's only three scenarios in this place of what happened.
00:05:45.520 And the only fourth scenario I can think about is the call happened and the question was never asked that if I'm asked that you and I have spoken, are you okay with me leaking it?
00:05:53.540 You just told the public, period.
00:05:55.260 And that could cause something as well.
00:05:56.520 Viva, where are you at with this?
00:05:57.700 Or it's just a miscommunication in the person who denied that the call occurred, didn't know that it occurred, or it occurred under the circumstances and Trump is trying to frame it.
00:06:04.100 Do you believe the call happened?
00:06:04.880 I believe they're in communication.
00:06:06.800 I mean, do you think they spoke to each other directly?
00:06:10.340 I'm going to go out on a limb and say I would not be surprised if it did occur.
00:06:13.960 It would be something of a biggish, demonstrable, misleading statement if it didn't occur.
00:06:19.280 Tom, do you think they spoke?
00:06:20.940 I think they spoke.
00:06:22.280 And I think that Xi was surprised that Trump talked about it and had to go out and do what Xi does, deny it.
00:06:29.700 No.
00:06:30.880 I don't think they spoke.
00:06:31.920 I think if Trump spoke with Xi, I think he would hype that up like no other.
00:06:37.200 I think he would say something to the effect of, it was a perfect call, we had a great conversation, and he would lean into it.
00:06:43.940 My indications are that they didn't really speak and that there's no conversation in sight.
00:06:50.480 I think if you're looking at the rhetoric of what Xi is doing and all his foreign ministers, they are preparing for the long haul.
00:06:55.920 I don't see the tariffs with China negotiation happening anytime soon.
00:07:00.720 If you look at what Xi is doing, he's doing what they call it, Pat, a charm offensive, going around, talking to people.
00:07:06.600 And I think that there's no deal in sight.
00:07:10.340 He's also preparing the Chinese people for basically for winter is coming.
00:07:14.220 He's basically saying, get used to what we're doing right now because we're going to make America pay.
00:07:19.080 And ego is a hell of a thing.
00:07:21.680 And if Trump is basically trying to power play Xi, who has more credibility over their people?
00:07:28.060 Who has more sustainability over their people?
00:07:30.600 It's Xi.
00:07:31.060 Because if you say the wrong thing about Xi, you're missing, right?
00:07:35.940 You're right.
00:07:36.560 Jack Ma, how you looking?
00:07:38.600 So, you know, you say the wrong thing about Trump, you know, half the country is going to love you and applaud you.
00:07:42.940 So Xi is a dictator in a suit and tie.
00:07:45.380 Don't get it twisted.
00:07:46.680 But more importantly than a call, whether they have the call or not to me is almost irrelevant, is a deal on the table.
00:07:52.680 Trump is famous for the art of the deal.
00:07:55.040 I don't see a deal getting done anytime soon with Xi.
00:07:58.040 Vinny.
00:07:58.300 Well, listen, I can't speak on yes or no, but all I know is that from what I've been hearing, from what I've been seeing, China is hurting really bad.
00:08:07.340 But you just nailed it, Adam.
00:08:08.220 You think they're going to promote that their economy shit, all the houses that they built, you know, the sentiment, the unemployment for the youth.
00:08:16.580 I mean, I wouldn't know if they talked or not, but I think because I know we're going to get into that with the tariffs and the stuff that's happening right now, stuff is starting to shift towards us and it's happening.
00:08:25.720 Well, let me read this.
00:08:26.780 Well, there's a fifth option, which is that this is all part of the agreement.
00:08:30.080 President Trump knows Xi has to maintain safe face among his people and he'll deny it.
00:08:34.240 Save a face! 0.52
00:08:35.100 You remember, like, there was a similar-ish incident where Trudeau was leaking the contents of his conversations with Xi to the media and then Xi publicly admonished him.
00:08:44.260 And he says it's inappropriate that you leak our confidential.
00:08:46.440 So, the way it's done was not to shame Trump for having leaked it.
00:08:49.900 To me, it seems as though he's got a safe face among his people so that he doesn't look weak and they both get to look strong.
00:08:55.580 Well, listen, hope you're right.
00:08:57.360 But we'll see.
00:08:58.000 Hope you're right.
00:08:58.840 During a season like this where a lot of people are going through challenging times, they're worried.
00:09:02.820 They don't know what's going on.
00:09:03.500 Some of the people are having a hard time with their finances, with their small businesses, with their careers, with their families, stress period, anxiety, any of that stuff.
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