"Clinton Cut Him Off" - Michael Wolff REVEALS Epstein’s Elite Inner Circle Collapse After '06 Arrest
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Jeffrey Epstein's relationship with Donald Trump was one of the most powerful men in the world. Epstein was a billionaire hedge fund manager, a real estate developer, a philanthropist, a political consultant, and a prolific philanthropist. He was also a prolific sex offender, and in 2004, Epstein was charged with soliciting sex from minors.
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Of the 100 hours that you have, what were some things that he said?
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Did he sound like he was upset at the president?
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Did he sound like he was, he missed the relationship?
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Did he sound like he was over-exaggerating, under-exaggerating?
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What was he like when he was speaking to you during those hundreds of hours specifically
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As I say, he was enormously detailed about his relationship.
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He was, I mean, obviously Donald Trump was about to become, or was in the process of
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becoming the president and then became the president.
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So this became obviously a substantial fact in Jeffrey Epstein's life.
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Now, this was a friendship that stopped over a dispute, a real estate dispute in 2004.
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You know, and, and, and briefly, and I recount this in one of my books.
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Jeffrey Epstein believed himself to be the top bidder for a piece of real estate in Palm Beach
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He had bid $36 million for this Palm Beach house.
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He took his friend Donald Trump over to advise him on, on the logistics of moving the swimming
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His friend Trump then immediately went around his back and bid $40 million for the house and
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Epstein, on his part, believed and had, Epstein had pretty intimate knowledge of Trump's, of
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I mean, they were involved with deals together.
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Epstein was among Trump's business advisors, in essence, and Epstein believed that Trump did
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Therefore, therefore, his, he concluded that, that, that Trump was fronting for someone.
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And that this was essentially a money laundering, part of a money laundering scheme.
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And in fact, the house was sold, Trump sold the house within two years for $95 million, which
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would be a kind of a red flag that, that something was going on here.
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Trump began to, Trump was, Epstein was furious with, with Trump over this real estate betrayal.
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And I often think that, that men of a certain level of wealth, the thing that, um, angers
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But he started to threaten Trump with lawsuits and with, um, going, going to the press with
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this allegation that this is Epstein, Epstein threatened to sue Trump.
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Um, and I've been to this house, it looks nothing like it does in this picture because
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I looked at this house, uh, four years ago with a realtor in Palm beach.
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I mean, the house looks, uh, it, it doesn't look like a house.
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So he's threatened to sue him, even though they're friends, he's threatened to sue him over
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Um, as I say, rich men break down over real estate disputes.
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Um, um, at any rate, um, at that point, Epstein's legal problems began.
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Um, the police began to investigate him over allegations that he was, um, um, that there
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Epstein believed that it was Trump who first informed the police about what was going on
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Um, and from that point on, they were, they were nothing but bitter enemies.
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This is one of the instances of what he's telling you that, yes, that the following, that
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If it's a hundred hours, you know, Michael, what else did he say?
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Did he say anything about, um, uh, uh, uh, other politicians or businessmen?
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I mean, the hundred hours is, is, is, is, is pretty much a, uh, in, in, in some sense,
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Trump, I would say is, you know, 15%, maybe, maybe, maybe a little more.
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I mean, he keeps coming back to Trump and obviously that's one of my interests here.
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So I'm pressing him on the, on the Trump relationship, but he's also speaking about
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He speaks about Clinton some, somewhat, um, um, Clinton turned his back on Epstein.
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So he was, uh, you know, I, I think, I think he felt that at best Clinton was a fair weather
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Um, and that was, that was largely, largely the regard he had for, for Clinton at this, at
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Um, and, and there was a set of other people like, like that, um, you know, many people
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So far we have Clinton, we have Trump, any other big names that he would speak to?
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Um, so Ghislaine Maxwell, who had been, who had been very close to him, obviously, um,
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after 2004, after the police stepped into this 2004, 2005, she, um, very much distanced
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herself from, um, uh, from Epstein and Epstein was, was hurt by this.
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They had no, I mean, this is a, in the, in this story and, and obviously Ghislaine is
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so, so closely linked to Epstein at this point and the, and the one person in this whole scandal
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Um, but the truth is that by 2004, 2005, she was pretty much out of his life.
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Um, and, um, yeah, I mean a little, you know, again,
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I mean, the whole facts of this, of this Epstein story are clouded, not least of all by the
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fact that, that, um, most of the information that we get about this story is from people
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who don't know anything, who are speculating or who are, um, adopting the information they
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have heard from somebody else who doesn't know anything.
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And the people who do know things are, have been so, um, paranoid about being connected
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So therefore, therefore everything or many of the things that we know about this, this
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Did he say anything about Ghislaine that maybe the public doesn't know about that it stuck
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out any story that he said where you're like, wow, I never knew that.
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I think the public needs to know this story about the two of them.
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Well, I, I don't, I, I, I mean, I think what, what, what's not recognized is that a, that,
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that Ghislaine was out of his life at a relatively long ago moment.
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Um, that, that, that, that while they had had a close relationship, a boyfriend, girlfriend
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relationship for a short period, after that, she increasingly came, became not his partner
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in crime, but his, you know, his functionary, his employee, she was, you know, she was getting
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paid and she was carrying out whatever, whatever duties he told her to carry out or whatever
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duties she, she inferred that she had to carry out.
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Um, so, so I think, again, that's another misperception of this.
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If you're saying they didn't, uh, no longer did things together.
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I think she got charged, found guilty in 2021, December, 2021, which is less than four years
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I think she's facing 20 years right now, and it was sex trafficking of a minor, conspiracy
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to incite, entice minors to travel, to engage in illegal sex acts, conspiracy to transport
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minors with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity.
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Right, but all, all of this, all of this, every specific here is, um, relates to what happened
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