＂Trump Is An ALPHA＂ - Trump Sets Stage For EXPLOSIVE Zelenskyy-Putin Peace Summit
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Summary
Rob and Pat discuss the latest meeting between President Trump and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, and how the President handled it. Also, Pat and Rob discuss a clip of the last time the two met in the Oval Office and how heated things got.
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At first, you see Zelensky posts a video of meeting some of the guys of what he was going to wear.
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And everyone's like, dude, this guy's not going to show up with it.
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Are you freaking, I was myself annoyed, saying, are you kidding me what a terrible diplomat this guy is if he's not showing up with a suit?
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The pre-meeting. The t-shirt, all this stuff walking around.
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Still disrespectful. Look at everybody's dressing in a suit.
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But this is the rehearsal. He's meeting everybody and still got a t-shirt on.
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So then, all of a sudden, Trump is doing his, waiting to see what the guy is wearing when he gets out of the car.
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And here's what it looks like when Zelensky shows up.
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Okay, show this clip. Watch this one here. Go ahead, Rob.
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Dude, if he walked out with t-shirt and shorts, Trump would have slapped him right in the face.
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That looks like me standing on the porch waiting for a guy to come take one of my daughters out.
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You know, it's just like, because who was the alpha there?
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Zelensky had to move out of the car toward him.
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Pat, if you were there standing and some young man came to pick up Senna, you'd probably have a gun?
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I mean, I'm just going to have such great conversations.
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I just want to show you guys what it was like the last time they had a meeting.
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I want to remind you, Rob, if you can show this clip here.
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And by the way, I'm telling you, we've not even reacted to this clip.
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No, we've not even reacted to this a couple months ago.
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I want you to see how heated it got the last time where Trump pushed them in ways where
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you can really tell he was not happy and you can tell diplomacy lacked from the other
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side, being entitled, coming in with what America has done for him.
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Look, if you could get a ceasefire right now, I tell you, you take it.
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So the bullets stop flying and your men stop getting killed.
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Because you'll get a ceasefire faster than an agreement.
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That was with a guy named Biden who was not a smart person.
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That was with Obama who gave you sheets and I gave you javelins.
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I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks.
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In fact, the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins.
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She's asking what if Russia breaks the ceasefire.
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Well, they broke it with Biden because Biden, they didn't respect him.
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He might have broken deals with Obama and Bush.
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The problem is I've empowered you to be a tough guy.
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I don't think you'd be a tough guy without the United States.
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I don't think it's going to be pretty, but you'll fight it out.
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So just want to put this, that's the last meeting.
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Rob, if you can go to the clip of what happens with this meeting, right, when they're together.
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This time around, he's got everybody sitting in front of his desk.
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This is actually an interview that he did with Fox News where he confirms that the U.S. will provide air support for Ukraine if they come to a peace deal.
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When it comes to security, they're willing to put people on the ground.
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We're willing to help them with things, especially probably if you could talk about by air because nobody has the kind of stuff we have.
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I think if a deal is made, you know, famous last words, right?
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But I think if a deal is made, I think Russia's had it.
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And for a very extended period of time, I don't think there'll be a problem.
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It can't be NATO because that's just not something that would ever, ever happen.
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I mean, if you were Russia, who would want to have your enemy, your opponent sitting on your line?
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So it was always thought that Ukraine was sort of a buffer between Russia and the rest of Europe.
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Everything worked out well until Biden got involved.
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So, Tom, your thoughts on this meeting, the visit, the videos, the clips.
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And it ended without any of the Europeans going to the newspaper and saying stuff.
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You remember when the fight happened in the Oval Office, what you were showing there.
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And the first place that Zelensky went, remember this, Vinny?
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Zelensky is now shaking hands, going around Europe with a pat on the head to her.
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Zelensky says no to the American media, specifically Fox.
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So everybody left the negotiation table not leaking or popping off.
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That tells me that the moderation that Trump provided got people to talk and then not leak and go home, point one.
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Point two, it says you suddenly had Putin from afar saying something halfway positive about coming together to talk.
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Whatever you did, Putin is suddenly not over there.
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So what I'm seeing, the word trilateral is working, and people are going to understand what this means.
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I am here, and I will try, and the triangle is the two people that are fighting.
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And I believe this is a master class in negotiation.
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And then Putin speaks up and says, well, maybe in the next step we will get together.
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We will have the meeting, which is what Trump said he thought would happen after he met with Putin.
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So it's coming true, and it's not falling apart.
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The thing that I don't like is the way the American media is trying to kill it.
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I feel the American media, MSM, is, like, actively trying to kill it.
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It's like, and you've got people like Rubio who are speaking back.
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But you don't know the other five things we did.
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Yeah, and it's funny because when you're talking about media, the fact that Zelensky is like, I'm not going to Fox.
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I wonder how much of that is Trump saying, don't even do any interviews with anybody.
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And then I'll follow up with you guys and tell you what's happening next.
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I don't know whether that was the exchange or not, but that's the vibe I got.
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If this is going to work, folks, we're all going to shut up.
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But, you know, mainstream media talking about, well, I can't believe it was like a friendly thing.
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President Bush invited Putin to go with his younger, older son to go fishing together.
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There's all these meetings with other people that they had these, you know, Obama went and sat down with a communist at a baseball game for a couple of days.
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And they're laughing and the media is celebrating.
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If this guy wants to come in and create a peace deal.
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No, he is a guy that's, you know, totally owned by Putin and all the other guys.
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He's destroyed mainstream media so bad that MSNBC's officially changed their name to Mara Sabatrucha Now.
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They're so afraid of MS-13 that they changed their name to MS-13 Now.
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The only thing that's missing is the 13 in the middle.
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If I was Mara Sabatrucha, I would actually sue them for using our name.
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You should go out and say, what are you doing using our organizations?
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Yeah, where is that trademark on the bottom right?
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As if MSNBC thinks that that's going to change it.
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Like the people are going to go, oh, this is a new network.
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In regard to Russia, what people don't understand and all these morons on the left with the media,
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Bush in 2008, that's during Bush, Russia went to Georgia, right?
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Obama in 2014, that's when Russia seized Crimea, and then Biden in 2022.
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And that first meeting was like the arrogant kid, Tom, that spoiled that comes in.
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And the father who's been away is like, hey, listen, we're not playing that crap anymore.
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Or the old guy who doesn't even know what the hell day it is or what his name is or who his son is.
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And this is a great example of a freaking alpha.
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And as much as they can say, Pat, it's not going to do anything.
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And by the way, a part of this was the fact that he agreed to sell $90 billion of a weapons package.
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And the way he apparently brokered this deal, which is brilliant, Rob.
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The way he brokered this deal is he got, I believe, EU to buy $90 billion of weapons from U.S. to send it to them.
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EU paid for it, the way they structured this deal.
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So yes, he's getting the weapons, but now it's like, hey, EU, if you guys want me to keep sending stuff, you guys want the war to end?
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Then because you don't mind spending our money.
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Everybody spent some money, but he's now putting more of the onus on them.
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But Zelensky dressed up in a suit for one person and one person only.
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If Trump didn't want to, if Trump didn't have an issue with the suit, the guy would have showed up in a T-shirt.
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As far as MSNBC, one of the main reasons they probably changed their name is because it, how many times does Trump go, MSDNC?
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As far as Vinny goes, you said that, you know, I'm not trying to pick on you or anything like that.
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You said that, you know, Trump had nothing to do with Ukraine, what have you.
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But my point is he was almost impeached over it.
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But probably the most important thing that Trump said, and this is a global thing, not just Russia and Ukraine, he goes, why would you want an enemy at your gates?
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Basically, you need to have a buffer talking about almost putting yourself in Russia's position when it comes to NATO.
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Why do you think we want a wall put up between the border of the United States and Mexico?
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Why is the DMZ between North Korea and South Korea?
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Why does India and Pakistan fight over the little piece of land right there?
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Why is this land in Israel and Gaza need to have a buffer?
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So when you have enemies at the gate, you better have a freaking buffer, whether it's a wall, whether it's a DMZ zone, whatever it is.
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So Trump is absolutely like putting yourself in Putin's position.
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I totally understand why you wouldn't want Ukraine as a part of NATO.
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Could you imagine if Kamala was negotiating this deal right now?
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Could you just picture Kamala in the Oval Office meeting with Putin, with world leaders, Zelensky, Keir Starmer, Macron, Georgia Maloney.
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Could you just how much would she fumble the bag if Kamala was in office?
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Well, I just want to say that fake impeachment with Vindman and all that, that has nothing to do with them going to war.
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It was a, by the way, it was someone who heard from someone else that they heard him on the call saying something.
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And they even released a transcript that it was a perfect call.
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So I don't know how you're correlating that with an actual invasion and Joe Biden saying, yeah, they can do a minor incursion.
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You weren't picking on me because it doesn't, it doesn't correlate.
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My point is, that's why I gave you the disclaimer.
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I'm not, I'm just saying he did have something to Ukraine.
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Whether it was a perfect call or a horrible call, he got impeached.
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And I was expecting him to go hardcore Trump, all this other stuff.
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This is the first time I saw him where he wasn't fully, it's all his fault.
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What he did say is he says they were friends in the 90s and whatever, 2000s.
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They had a 15-year friendship because they would spend some time together.
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Instead, a lot of other things came up about other folks.
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But let me stay back on this because I went off a little bit.
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The point you were making here, Vinny, is on what happened there, it's true when you're thinking about the timing back then.
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But today, now, if they hold this meeting with everybody, where do they do it?
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Because some places, if he travels to, those countries can arrest him on crime, what do you call it?
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I think Putin cannot have the meetings on certain places.
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They're talking about, you know, I think Putin wants UAE or Russia.
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I think there was a Budapest, Geneva, Switzerland came up.
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So this next meeting for them to be had, you know, could be a lot of different places.
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Rob, can you pull up the clip of when they're standing there?
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And he says, wow, look at that picture right there.
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By the way, let me tell you, that moment was 12 seconds.
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That probably got 50 million, 100 million online views, right?
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That's what you call a brilliant marketer and a negotiator in one.
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So it's interesting when he's playing all of those things, and then afterwards, there
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was the hot mic moment that was released on both sides.
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There was a couple hot mic moments that took place.
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This is where the European leaders praised Trump for dealing with the press.
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That's all we ask for is fairness with the media.
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Because they see the issues with the press, right?
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Honestly, how much of a percentage do you think...
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Like, this is the respect that he's going to show me.
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So, when you think about that, there's a couple things.
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In negotiation, you want the other person to come to you.
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And the part here that Trump doesn't have to think about that.
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I think it would be wild if this was done in Russia.
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I think that would be epic if it was done in Russia.
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Because the same way Putin wouldn't go to Germany,
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But if I'm Trump for optics, dude, I'd love this thing to be in Russia.
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It usually happens, like, at a neutral foreign site.
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The Camp David Peace Accords gave a place for Egypt and Anmar Sadat and Hakan Begin to come together.
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And then Reykjavik, where the U.S. and Reagan and Gorbachev met to talk about salt and salt, too, I think it was called.
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So it's pretty traditional to pick a place that's sort of like a neutral field.
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Go play the Super Bowl in a separate city where nobody has their own fans there and nobody claims favoritism or power moves.
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Well, Reagan was West Berlin, right, when he announced, tear down that wall.
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Oh, yeah, that was a speech he made there, but it was in Reykjavik, when he said to Gorbachev,
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And he turns to him and he said, you should have said yes.
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Every world leader is coming to the United States, whether it's D.C., whether it's Alaska, to meet with Trump.
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U.S. is still the world's number one superpower.
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And you know who's conveniently just like not involved in this whatsoever?
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The whole world is trying to figure out this peace deal between Russia and Ukraine.
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And China is over there sort of excommunicated, doing their own communist thing over there.
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But I promise you, you know, I had Ray Lewis here yesterday.
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And he was telling me when one time, you know, Bernie Sanders, the running back, okay, obviously Barry Sanders.
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I said Bernie Sanders because that lady on ESPN didn't even know when Drewski was wearing a Barry Sanders jersey and she claimed Shador Sanders.
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So he tells me one time that Barry Sanders is coming in at a game where he's fighting for a record or whatever.
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We said to the team, nothing's going to happen.
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You know who's watching every single clip as if a team that's sitting on the sidelines that they're about to have a bye week because they got another game coming up next week.
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And they have probably used AI technology to hear other conversations from 20 other people with 60 different screens studying everybody's body language, how people reacted.
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That's my assumption because, you know, they have a target on what they need to go after, and that's Taiwan.
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And they almost need to do that because, you know, what you see with the numbers that are coming up with China that they really were affected by tariffs.
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