Valuetainment - April 17, 2026


“COVERING UP Their Crimes” - California's 'STOP Nick Shirley Act' PROTECTS Migrant Fraud


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A California bill that could punish journalists who try to expose government fraud in their own communities. Guest: Pat McAfee and Rob Pizzi of The Daily Caller. They talk about the Stop Nick Shirley Act and why it s a bad idea.

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00:00:00.000 In the Stop Nick Shirley Act, there's a story that comes out.
00:00:03.080 What page is that on, Rob, the Stop Nick Shirley Act?
00:00:05.580 Stop Nick Shirley Act.
00:00:07.140 17.
00:00:08.100 Nick Shirley warns a California bill could punish people trying to expose government fraud.
00:00:15.840 Here's Nick Shirley.
00:00:16.500 Go for it.
00:00:18.060 What do you think?
00:00:18.640 Is this the Stop Nick Shirley Act in California?
00:00:22.780 Yeah, they're making it.
00:00:24.760 They're trying to make it so citizen journalists or just average Americans
00:00:28.420 who are going about seeing what's happening inside their community,
00:00:31.480 they're trying to scare them from talking about potential fraud
00:00:34.560 taking place inside of these communities.
00:00:37.160 And, like, I mean, think about it.
00:00:38.560 They're literally willing to impose a $10,000 fine or imprisonment
00:00:42.080 if you go and seek to find out the truth about a location
00:00:46.520 that could potentially be fraudulent inside your own neighborhood.
00:00:50.940 Nick, let's just kind of play out that hypothetical.
00:00:54.100 So whether you were in Minnesota, you also went to California,
00:00:56.540 You would go up to the Quality Leering Center, a clearly fake daycare in Minnesota.
00:01:04.120 There's your shirt.
00:01:05.320 Yes, always on.
00:01:07.280 And you would attempt to see if there's any children inside, right?
00:01:10.620 And somebody comes out and talks to you.
00:01:12.560 And now that person who's there possibly committing fraud could file a complaint in California that Nick Shirley is harassing me online, right?
00:01:21.640 That's how it would work in effect.
00:01:23.040 And then you would either see a year in jail or a $10,000 fine.
00:01:26.540 Correct. That's what it sounds like.
00:01:29.060 And it sucks because inside these states like Minnesota and California, 0.99
00:01:33.080 they've been proven to let fraud take place inside these immigrant communities. 1.00
00:01:37.040 You have the Somalians in Minnesota and the Armenians in California. 0.81
00:01:41.460 And they're trying to protect these people who are committing this fraud. 0.86
00:01:45.020 They're stealing millions upon millions of dollars.
00:01:47.540 And it just makes you wonder who their donors are.
00:01:50.400 Like, who are their donors?
00:01:51.640 Because why would they create this bill to then try and make it harder to expose fraud?
00:01:55.660 How bad is that, Tom? How bad is that with what's going on?
00:01:58.720 It's really bad. And by the way, he just said it. I mean, I brought this up before and I've been asking for it.
00:02:05.480 I want the investigations to go all the way down and do a financial forensic audit and find where the money was donated.
00:02:14.780 And if it is in PAC A, PAC B, PAC C, and those PACs are donating to campaigns, then there's the circle of life for the fraud.
00:02:24.500 You create the fraud, you put some in your pocket,
00:02:26.860 you give a bunch back to a pack,
00:02:28.420 and it comes back to the representative.
00:02:30.900 But check this out.
00:02:31.940 Do you know who sponsored this? 0.76
00:02:33.820 Mia Bonta. 0.97
00:02:35.060 Mia Bonta is a California State Assemblywoman.
00:02:39.320 She's the Attorney General's wife. 0.98
00:02:41.640 She is the wife of the Attorney General of California.
00:02:45.240 The person that's supposed to be investigating the fraud, 0.73
00:02:48.260 his wife is an assemblyman, goes out, Mia Bonta,
00:02:51.700 puts it out. It's called California
00:02:53.560 AB 2624. And by
00:02:55.700 the way, Vinny,
00:02:57.720 fun with English. It's called
00:02:59.860 the Privacy for Immigration
00:03:02.020 Support Service Providers
00:03:03.820 Act. Oh, really? Privacy
00:03:05.940 for Immigration because they feel
00:03:07.940 the proposal needs to establish
00:03:10.180 a program to keep residential
00:03:11.860 addresses confidential
00:03:13.720 against those that might be doxing.
00:03:16.400 Wait a minute. If there's a hospice
00:03:18.360 there, wouldn't you want the address known
00:03:20.200 so people could go to the hospice and get services for a low-income parent
00:03:25.380 or someone that needed hospice?
00:03:27.080 But no, we're going to keep the addresses.
00:03:29.180 This shows you.
00:03:31.000 This shocks me, Pat.
00:03:32.440 It's like right there in plain sight.
00:03:34.840 You can stare into the belly of the beast right here and say,
00:03:37.860 with a straight face, the Privacy for Immigration Support Services Providers Act.
00:03:43.580 With a straight face.
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00:04:15.300 Yeah.
00:04:15.980 Adam.
00:04:16.940 Well, listen, it proves one thing.
00:04:19.360 California is not Minnesota.
00:04:20.880 It was like Minnesota is the minor leagues.
00:04:22.960 Now he's in the big leagues right now going to California.
00:04:25.220 You're talking about a couple billion dollars in Minnesota,
00:04:27.840 whatever the number is.
00:04:29.000 Who knows what the number is in California?
00:04:32.120 So California is not playing games here.
00:04:34.220 By the way, don't we want to encourage our citizens, our journalists,
00:04:40.040 are independent journalists are free thinkers to eliminate waste fraud and abuse isn't waste
00:04:46.780 fraud and abuse a bad thing okay great let's let's agree on that we don't want waste fraud and abuse
00:04:52.760 so if you have nothing to hide cool let's open up the books let's open up those you know they
00:04:59.160 just had tax day a couple other days did you see how how gleeful people like Zoran Mondani
00:05:05.060 and people like Karen Bass are for tax day.
00:05:08.100 More revenue, more revenue. 1.00
00:05:09.720 Where the hell is this revenue going half the time?
00:05:11.880 So there's clearly waste, fraud, and abuse at this point
00:05:15.740 in all these cities.
00:05:17.220 And what's wrong with finding that?
00:05:19.180 That's just more money that you can play with
00:05:20.840 in the government.
00:05:21.740 Let's turn this frown upside down.
00:05:24.100 Nick Shirley is trying to help you locate lost money.
00:05:27.660 Let's find the money and reallocate it.
00:05:30.240 By the way, last point,
00:05:31.520 they're saying that they're willing to impose
00:05:33.820 a $10,000 fine
00:05:35.900 or imprisonment. I'm not sure
00:05:37.820 about the imprisonment side of things because he's just
00:05:39.800 asking questions, but here's what I
00:05:41.640 guarantee. God forbid
00:05:43.740 there's a $10,000 fine.
00:05:46.300 How quickly do you think people
00:05:47.680 that support Nick Shirley will pay that?
00:05:49.860 I'll sign up. I know we'll
00:05:51.720 sign up. We're going to help this guy
00:05:53.800 do what he's got to do. He's trying to
00:05:55.740 do the right thing, and they're trying to block him from
00:05:57.760 doing it. Let me tell you, here's what is going to happen.
00:05:59.800 Somebody sent me a manette saying, hey,
00:06:01.500 my business, that was my business that he showed
00:06:03.660 and we're actually a legitimate business
00:06:05.480 and we're not a bad business.
00:06:07.800 My mother's been running this place for a long time
00:06:09.680 and I said, okay, great.
00:06:10.600 I said, manect him.
00:06:11.840 Yep.
00:06:12.520 Nick Shirley's on my neck.
00:06:13.360 Rob, if you want to pull up his manect,
00:06:14.860 you can manect him and ask him a question.
00:06:16.340 He'll respond back to you and tell you yes or no.
00:06:18.500 Of course.
00:06:19.000 And, you know, but when you're going out there,
00:06:21.960 you're asking the questions like,
00:06:23.140 well, then why don't you give some pamphlets?
00:06:25.620 Why don't you be in business?
00:06:27.600 Why don't you, if you're saying your business hours
00:06:29.780 are eight to six, well, then when somebody walks in,
00:06:31.900 act like you're open eight to six
00:06:33.580 because it looks like you're a fraud.
00:06:35.320 So handle your business accordingly the way that you're doing it
00:06:37.920 instead of, you know, because some people were monectomy saying
00:06:40.840 that it's not all the businesses that he's looking at
00:06:42.860 that are real or wrong, and they're not wrong.
00:06:45.100 But he needs to, we definitely need more guys like that
00:06:49.400 to go out there, ask questions so we can learn about what's going on.
00:06:52.980 Of course, I'll just add one more thing.
00:06:54.320 That same person monectomy, and I said, yeah, I hear you.
00:06:57.480 It's not like Nick Shirley is the judge, jury, and executioner.
00:07:01.300 He's a citizen journalist.
00:07:02.400 you can reach him on Manect
00:07:04.160 this is the power of Manect
00:07:05.300 and by the way
00:07:06.300 if he brings up a story
00:07:08.700 or even accuses you
00:07:10.280 you can go fight in a court of law
00:07:12.320 and find the truth
00:07:13.660 nobody's saying that Nick Shirley is the gospel
00:07:16.080 they're saying he's asking questions
00:07:18.100 and all of a sudden we can't ask questions
00:07:19.880 if you think about it
00:07:22.080 the guy exposing the fraud
00:07:23.500 becomes the problem
00:07:24.780 and not the fraud itself
00:07:26.300 and mind you Adam
00:07:27.620 they're flipping out
00:07:29.400 because they have to protect the scam
00:07:31.840 And it's not going to stop, bro.
00:07:33.020 Think about it.
00:07:33.380 He exposed these people so much.
00:07:35.620 He's bouncing around, just, you know, exposing hundreds of millions.
00:07:38.220 Guys, Pat, we talked about this before about his security.
00:07:40.880 This is not a game.
00:07:42.420 Like, he's exposing, like, he's going into the hundreds of millions of dollars, bro. 0.99
00:07:47.240 He is a threat to very, very powerful, sneaky, disgusting human beings 0.98
00:07:52.880 that have a target on him. 0.99
00:07:54.280 And I'm not doing that to scare him.
00:07:56.180 I'm just letting him know.
00:07:57.080 I genuinely hope that he's taking this very, very seriously
00:07:59.800 because this he's showing how broken the system is and he's like i said all these blue states he
00:08:04.960 went to minnesota now he's in california they stop chasing the abuse and they start chasing
00:08:09.280 the exposure okay and what's like you know what they're trying to do right they're trying to scare
00:08:13.580 watchdogs citizen journalists you know undercover investigators um from doing the damage and this
00:08:19.140 is what bothers me pat this is and again i always have hope at the end of the day but what it seems
00:08:23.960 like because i want all of them everybody that was involved tom like you said with the forensic
00:08:29.740 get them, put them in jail
00:08:31.700 because I'm getting sick and tired of all
00:08:33.980 we said this last week, launching
00:08:35.900 investigations, writing letters, Tulsi
00:08:38.080 Gapper
00:08:38.480 what's her title? Director of National
00:08:42.100 Intelligence, another video
00:08:43.900 came out where she's like, Obama
00:08:45.680 Brennan, all these people
00:08:47.640 44 page letter, they all
00:08:50.080 cheated and they all conspired against the sitting
00:08:51.960 president of the United States, nobody's
00:08:54.100 going to go to jail, okay, COVID
00:08:55.900 look at what they did, they lied
00:08:58.120 to us of where it came from
00:08:59.580 no accountability yet people are dying from turbo cancer kids young boys are all getting um
00:09:06.060 biocarditis uh eric swalwell just got in trouble look at the the amount of people they passed that
00:09:11.960 bill 357 to what tom 65 they're covering up their crimes i want to see one person go to jail i want
00:09:21.940 to see but i want to see them the perp walk and put them in prison because when it was the other
00:09:25.960 way around, FBI
00:09:27.880 raids, people going to jail, indictment. 0.98
00:09:30.200 They were so happy with all those freaking headshots. 0.97
00:09:32.380 Can we put somebody 0.98
00:09:33.900 where's the accountability? I want to see, because I know
00:09:35.800 in Minnesota, 65 of them went
00:09:37.880 to jail. Good. Yay. I want
00:09:39.940 people to go to jail. And if you don't think
00:09:41.620 Gavin Newsom, Tom, knows
00:09:43.840 about this hundreds of billions
00:09:45.720 of millions of dollars of fraud, you're lying
00:09:47.760 to yourself. Yeah, I'll tell you.
00:09:49.660 60 Minutes was one of the greatest investigative
00:09:51.680 journalism shows in the history of American television.
00:09:54.360 Mike Wallace, Harry Reisner,
00:09:55.680 ed bradley maurie schaefer we all remember it and there were different reporters at different
00:09:59.560 generations right we all watched it they used to walk up to businesses and surprise them remember
00:10:04.220 that yes i love that adam or they used to surprise me excuse me i'm a 60 minutes to talk to you about
00:10:08.860 all the stuff you're putting into the into the river back there what what is coming out of these
00:10:13.100 these pipes and they would go that and get by the way you know how they were celebrated
00:10:16.820 100 over 140
00:10:18.880 Emmys, Pat.
00:10:20.860 140 Emmys for
00:10:22.480 news, for citizen, for
00:10:24.720 journalism, for uncovering the stuff.
00:10:26.760 But now we go the other way.
00:10:28.740 We go the other way. Now we're
00:10:30.640 going to
00:10:30.880 charge people
00:10:33.940 a $10,000 fine for doing
00:10:36.880 it. Tom brings up a really, really good point.
00:10:39.100 And I'm wondering if this is something
00:10:40.780 Nick Shirley could do. Nick Shirley
00:10:42.700 needs cover. Right now
00:10:44.960 it's just, he's a kid, dude.
00:10:46.820 we've hung out with Nick Shirley. He's a kid
00:10:48.140 and he's doing great work. He's got brains
00:10:50.740 in our balls. If there was an organization 1.00
00:10:52.880 whether it's Fox News
00:10:54.680 whether it's Drudge Report
00:10:56.140 whoever, Valuetainment, whatever
00:10:58.080 that says he's, here's his media
00:11:00.660 credentials just like we did with 60 Minutes
00:11:02.600 He's a reporter. He's an
00:11:04.820 investigative journalist. He's a citizen journalist
00:11:06.760 He's asking questions. What's wrong
00:11:08.920 with that? So 60 Minutes had a
00:11:10.840 cover. 60 Minutes
00:11:12.920 is on CBS I believe, right?
00:11:14.600 David Ellison. Attention David Ellison.
00:11:16.400 Get someone to give this kid a cover, a shield, so he can go use his sword.