Valuetainment - September 03, 2025


“Cuomo BEATS Mamdani” - Shocking Poll Shows UPSET In NYC Mayoral Race


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A new poll shows a hypothetical head-to-head matchup between Mamdani and Cuomo if all 5 candidates in the NYC mayoral race drop out. What does that mean for Jillian Manus and Rob Pizzi's chances of winning the primary?

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00:00:00.000 New poll shows Cuomo beating Mamdani in New York City mayoral race if all of the candidates drop out.
00:00:06.460 Jillian, I really want to know what you think about this.
00:00:08.620 Let's go through the numbers.
00:00:09.540 I'm going to read it to you, then I'm coming to you.
00:00:11.380 So Mamdani versus Cuomo.
00:00:16.200 While I was at the Jubilee thing, I kept telling everybody, I hope Mamdani wins so we can see what happens in four years.
00:00:22.320 I hope he wins.
00:00:23.140 A token research poll shows that in a five-candidate debate, five-candidate New York City mayoral race, Mamdani leads 42% followed by Cuomo 26, Curtis 17, and Eric Adams at 9%, and Independent Jim Walden at 3%.
00:00:41.560 But in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup, Rob, if you can pull this up, if Adams, Silva, and Walden dropped out, Cuomo would defeat Mamdani 52% to 41%.
00:00:54.400 That's not a close race.
00:00:56.880 Cuomo reacted positively, stating that poll is right.
00:01:00.160 When asked about the results on Wednesday, but avoided directly calling for other candidates to withdraw, Mamdani's campaign dismissed the poll, with a spokesperson stating, everybody knows that Andrew Cuomo is Donald Trump's choice.
00:01:13.520 Candidate for mayor, they share the same billionaire donor colluded on the race, and Trump himself said the two have always gotten along.
00:01:21.060 The spokesperson accused Cuomo of aligning with Trump's authoritarianism and favoring billionaire over New Yorkers.
00:01:27.300 The poll suggests it could unify anti-Mamdani grooms, but only Walden has indicated willingness to exit the race to support a stronger candidate against Mamdani.
00:01:36.040 Jillian, thoughts?
00:01:37.560 I don't know, boss.
00:01:38.660 This is a bit of a pipe dream.
00:01:40.340 It's just too much of a hypothetical for me.
00:01:42.880 My bigger concern is watching people like yourself say, I hope he wins so they get what they want.
00:01:50.240 And you've seen Winklevoss come out and say that, and then you've seen the guys like Bill Ackman say, no, no, no, we cannot allow that.
00:01:55.740 But as a regular person, I honestly don't know what is the right answer here.
00:02:01.120 You kind of want these kids to get what they're voting for, but at the same time, what about all the innocents?
00:02:06.080 What about the people of color?
00:02:07.400 What about the working class that don't want this guy?
00:02:09.740 And when these rich white liberals escape, by the way, here to Florida, which is where they're going to come,
00:02:15.780 they're going to run from these policies that they voted for and make no connection with regard to their responsibility for what's happened there.
00:02:22.820 They're going to leave this mess with all the innocent people who voted against it.
00:02:27.180 That's the part that kind of worries me.
00:02:28.980 You want them to learn from their mistakes, but all these innocent people are going to suffer, and they're not going to learn.
00:02:34.040 They're going to come here, and they're going to try to make it happen in places like Nashville, places like Austin, places like Miami.
00:02:40.780 Yeah, I mean, that's a valid way of being reasonable and trying to hear both sides out of what could happen.
00:02:48.820 The reality of it is, if you don't want him to win, go campaign, go knock on doors, go do what Charlie Kirk got a lot of people to go to Pennsylvania, go work,
00:03:00.020 go get people to show up to Arizona, Pennsylvania, which means go knock on doors all over New York City, one by one by one.
00:03:07.560 But if you really don't, because guess what Mamdani is doing? That's what Mamdani is doing.
00:03:12.000 So for me, it's a form of saying, hey, New York, this is real. It's coming to you.
00:03:16.460 And this is not a joke. This is really, really coming to your city, to New York City, 123 billionaires, financial capital of the world.
00:03:23.980 You guys better get your act together because this guy is capable of winning, and when he does, it's going to change.
00:03:29.760 I'm not going to take this down the way because I'm sure you texted it to Rob, but I'm going to go to a couple other people.
00:03:34.060 Matter of fact, I'll come to you next. What do you think about this, Adam?
00:03:35.760 Well, this time to play, let's make a deal. And if Cuomo or Eric Adams ever see this, you two figure it out.
00:03:42.840 You know, they say the ego is not the amigo. One of you guys gots to go because we're how many months away from this election?
00:03:49.620 September, October, November. We're a little over two months away from this election.
00:03:54.040 And if you actually care about New York and not yourself, you guys figure out a deal where Eric Adams either drops out
00:04:00.880 and Cuomo assumes the position or one way or the other.
00:04:04.640 But Eric Adams, who is currently the incumbent and basically said, I'm out of the Democratic Party.
00:04:08.880 I'm an independent now. Dude, your numbers are tanking. You were at 8 percent two weeks ago.
00:04:13.560 Now you're at 2 percent. Cuomo, who was at 8 percent. Now he's almost doubled up.
00:04:17.720 But meanwhile, you have Zorn Mandani, who's going nowhere.
00:04:20.600 So his whole campaign messaging, aside from all the communism and the Islamism and the socialism and the free, free, free, a lot of isms,
00:04:29.220 is the affordability crisis in New York City.
00:04:32.320 And who has ever lived in New York City or spent time in New York City understands that he's not wrong.
00:04:37.140 He's actually right. His approach, however, is wrong.
00:04:40.100 So the thought of the jewel of the capitalism of the world, New York City, being run by a self-proclaimed democratic socialist communist is laughable to me.
00:04:52.260 But we're about two months away from seeing that happen.
00:04:54.340 Tom. Well, Curtis Soa, if you know his history, the guardian angels, is not going anywhere.
00:05:00.400 He is a guy who's running on cause and heart and passion.
00:05:04.440 I don't see him dropping out because he wants to make the point.
00:05:09.800 He's like the Green Party candidates around the time of Ralph Nader, who simply won't let go.
00:05:18.200 And by the way, in a democratic environment, why should he?
00:05:23.000 Now, the others would be deal making among the people who are the Democrats.
00:05:29.260 Eric Adams. What deal do you make with him to get him to leave?
00:05:32.880 Jim Walden, a little bit easier to make a deal.
00:05:35.860 But now you do that and you end up with almost perfect numbers, Pat, that remind me of Bush, Clinton and Ross Perot.
00:05:46.980 17 for Soa, 35, 36 for Cuomo and 41 for Mandami.
00:05:57.820 And you go take a look at that.
00:05:58.940 That looks just like the election between Clinton, Bush Sr. and...
00:06:06.420 What are you saying?
00:06:07.260 Yeah, exactly.
00:06:08.120 I'm saying that I think it's going to be a hard time getting these people out.
00:06:12.280 And I think that's what you're looking at right now, barring something happening.
00:06:15.920 I think all those people, respectfully, Tom, are irrelevant.
00:06:18.680 They're one percenters. 0.72
00:06:20.680 Cuomo and Eric Adams, get your ass together.
00:06:23.440 Come in a room, figure out who's mayor, who's vice mayor.
00:06:27.040 You guys figure it out.
00:06:28.160 Or you'll both be sitting around saying, pledge of allegiance to Mayor Mamdani.
00:06:32.080 Well, what happened...
00:06:32.820 Look at the numbers.
00:06:33.280 They're almost identical.
00:06:34.140 Well, look at the...
00:06:34.820 43, 37, 18.
00:06:36.020 I think we talked about this before.
00:06:37.540 Look at the pool of people to choose from.
00:06:40.400 Mamdani, Cuomo, because we know what he did with all the hospitals and COVID and just, you know, not a good track record.
00:06:45.860 And then Eric Adams.
00:06:47.140 Eric Adams, you're the incumbent.
00:06:48.860 You're at 9%.
00:06:50.180 2%.
00:06:50.440 2%.
00:06:50.920 Is he at 2%?
00:06:52.060 According to this number.
00:06:52.840 Okay, my bad.
00:06:53.260 Oh, my bad.
00:06:53.800 2%.
00:06:54.120 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:06:55.140 According to Polymarket, odds, odds, odds, odds.
00:06:57.020 Wait a minute.
00:06:57.780 9% according to the poll.
00:06:59.640 2% to Polymarket, Vegas odds.
00:07:01.580 Thank you.
00:07:02.000 So he's at 9%.
00:07:02.680 You're right.
00:07:03.280 Thank you.
00:07:03.560 So 9%.
00:07:04.400 And you know what it is?
00:07:05.440 Eric Adams shouldn't have bent the knee.
00:07:07.600 Because for those four years under Biden, any woke agenda, BS, sanctuary city, okay, signed up everything.
00:07:14.080 And then all of a sudden, Tom, when things started to shift, he still had to sound more pro-Trump.
00:07:19.200 And it was too late.
00:07:19.960 Day late, dollar short.
00:07:21.320 Okay, and now New Yorkers, like you said, Jillian, where my family's from, the majority of my family from Yonkers, New York.
00:07:27.460 Now they're all like, what the hell?
00:07:29.460 What's going on?
00:07:30.200 Because look at the people that they get to choose from.
00:07:32.340 And it's all the leadership.
00:07:34.320 And now it's all coming to it.
00:07:35.500 And I get what you're saying.
00:07:37.120 Having the attitude, which we've had, and I admit I had the same, let them learn.
00:07:40.600 They need to learn their lesson because at this point, it's inevitable.
00:07:43.700 It's inevitable, Jill.
00:07:44.460 It's going to happen.
00:07:46.440 And at this point, they're going to learn their lesson.
00:07:48.740 In fact, my question to you, he's talking about affordable housing and all that housing and all this.
00:07:53.340 How is he planning on doing that?
00:07:54.540 There's no policy.
00:07:55.760 Where is that going to come from?
00:07:56.960 Vinny, Vinny.
00:07:57.460 You're looking for numbers and you're looking for data and you're looking for actual accountability.
00:08:01.460 I thought they screamed.
00:08:03.480 It's all about a vibe, bro.
00:08:04.560 You know what I mean?
00:08:05.200 Smile and vibe.
00:08:05.920 Is there a plan set out, Pat, of how he's going to make this housing?
00:08:08.220 You're bringing logic to an emotional gig.
00:08:10.340 Exactly.
00:08:10.580 You're going to pay for it, dude.
00:08:11.520 For what?
00:08:12.100 For Mamdani's thing is he's going to make affordable housing for New Yorkers.
00:08:16.440 Why are you trying to do math, bro?
00:08:17.460 First of all, he has more power to do that today than he does as a mayor when he wins.
00:08:21.780 This is the part that Andrew Cuomo is like, you can, not Andrew Cuomo, Mayor Adams is like, you can do that right now.
00:08:28.620 Thank you.
00:08:28.820 How come you're not doing anything about it?
00:08:29.660 Yes.
00:08:29.860 So what's going to happen when you're a mayor?
00:08:30.760 So, but he has momentum.
00:08:33.660 And trust me, where they are right now, they want tomorrow to be November 4th.
00:08:38.440 Mamdani's camp.
00:08:39.000 Yes.
00:08:39.580 Because between now and November, there's still two months and things could change.
00:08:44.340 You know what could happen to him?
00:08:45.680 You know what could happen to him?
00:08:47.200 What?
00:08:47.600 What could happen to him is what happened to our friend from Canada.
00:08:50.800 Weird.
00:08:51.200 Okay.
00:08:51.340 What happened to that guy?
00:08:52.300 What was his name?
00:08:53.880 He was like, oh, he's going to win.
00:08:55.820 He thought he was going to be the prime minister of the world.
00:08:57.400 And then boom, he loses.
00:08:58.200 That somebody else has to give him their seat.
00:09:01.740 Felt sorry for him.
00:09:02.800 Here's my seat.
00:09:03.500 Let me give him to you.
00:09:04.440 So that's the likely.
00:09:05.820 But someone needs to come in, like a Bill Ackman you were talking about earlier that met with Cuomo and met with Adams and said, I just think we need to get behind Cuomo.
00:09:14.860 Yes.
00:09:15.240 Is what Ackman said.
00:09:16.160 Yes.
00:09:16.380 Somebody needs to be a unifier, bring them together.
00:09:18.680 I think there's one guy that could pull it off.
00:09:20.020 And I think when it's two weeks out of the mayoral race, I think this guy who lives off of a, what is that street called?
00:09:28.280 Pennsylvania Avenue?
00:09:29.120 Pennsylvania Avenue.
00:09:29.880 It's in D.C.
00:09:30.300 What is it?
00:09:30.640 It's like a nice White House.
00:09:33.380 They're building like a $200 million dance scene.
00:09:35.360 Donald Trump.
00:09:35.540 Oh, he could help.
00:09:36.660 That's right.
00:09:37.120 You think he can help?
00:09:38.160 Yeah, I think he can help.
00:09:38.600 How do you see Trump helping?
00:09:40.480 I think Trump can help.
00:09:41.460 I think Trump can pull every one of them to the White House, have a meeting with them.
00:09:45.360 He can tell Sliwa to step out. 0.97
00:09:48.160 He can tell Adams to get behind him, and then he can offer him some things to do so.
00:09:51.940 You're saying internal, like almost Kingmaker type thing.
00:09:54.240 He can pull it off.
00:09:55.220 He can pull that off and broker a deal, and New York City can thank him for it.
00:09:59.040 Remember, President Trump made his billions in what city?
00:10:01.980 New York City.
00:10:03.020 Listen, he has affinity there.
00:10:05.440 He has affinity there for that city and what they're doing.
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