＂Stop Calling It A Hoax!＂ - Trump TROLLS Epstein Victims During DC Press Conference
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Rob and Vinny talk about the Epstein scandal and why it s not a hoax and why the perpetrators are being protected by the establishment in Washington, D.C. Pat and Rob talk about why they don t think the Epstein files are a hoax.
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This is Thomas Massey yesterday at the hearing, or I'm sorry, at the press conference where he
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talks about the claims that this is going to be another hoax and the Epstein files are a hoax.
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Go for it. Go ahead and play this clip. Go ahead and play this clip.
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I think it's shameful that this has been called a hoax. Hopefully today we can clear that up.
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This is not a hoax. This is real. There are real survivors. There are real victims
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to this criminal enterprise. And the perpetrators are being protected
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because they're rich and powerful and political donors
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Okay. So aside from that, I saw Gloria Allred calling out.
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I saw a bunch of different things. Is this Ro Khanna? And what is he saying here?
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This is Thomas Massey. He names one of the people implicated in the Epstein.
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Yeah, because what he says with Ro Khanna, he says these kids, these girls,
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if they go out and say the names, they will be sued for the rest of their lives.
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He says, but I can do it. We are going to read out the names.
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So apparently him and Ro Khanna want to go out there and read off the names that they have
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because they're not worried about them being sued.
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But the people that know the names are being told by their lawyers to not leak the names
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Gloria Allred, who is somebody who is represented.
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By the way, Gloria Allred, I believe, is representing 27 of the rape victims.
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Rob, can you validate if I would? Is it 26 or 27?
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Gloria Allred, who is the GOAT in the space of, what do you want to call this?
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A very good documentary about her will tell you why she is, yeah, 27 survivors she's representing.
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So she's representing 27 of the Epstein victims.
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And they're worried about going out and giving the names.
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But here's what Thomas Massey had to say. Go ahead, Rob.
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I'll give you the name of one of the billionaires who's running $2 million of ads in my district
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since I started this effort. His name is John Paulson.
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He's a hedge fund manager and a major donor to the Republican Party,
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Now that's public, but that's indicative of the types of people who may be implicated
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or just embarrassed by a release of, a completely release of these files.
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Do you still believe nothing's going to happen to the names?
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Do you still believe Thomas Massey's time is being wasted?
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Do you still believe Ro Khanna's wasting his time saying all the stuff that they're saying
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Or do you believe there's going to be a little bit of justice for some people out there?
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What I wish, Pat, and what I know, like not what I believe is going to happen
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I want every single person, not just on the list, Pat.
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I want who was there, victim, corroborated story, footage that all of a sudden
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nobody knows where it is, no cash to tell, no, no.
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What I'm starting to feel like is, because a lot of people are like,
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We're finding out that people like John Paulson,
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who was one of the biggest donors to the President, okay, is on that list.
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And by the way, I do not like how everybody has turned on Thomas Massey.
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He's the only one, to me, him and like Marjorie Taylor Greene that are actually
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still keeping this fire freaking lit and keeping it going.
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A lot of people are saying, you know, what's her name?
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This whole thing lost credibility because she's involved because she's all,
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John Paulson's one of them, Pat, if we have to think about it, besides Bill Clinton,
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besides, you know, the intelligence agency, which Paula Luna just came out and said
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that, and Rob, I might have sent it to you, Paula Luna said that the intelligence stuff,
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that the leaked documents, have the CIA, have Israel, and have Russia, and I believe China.
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Pat, if you look right there, she says, in my opinion, there's definitely an intelligence
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Countries named, and the lead attorney for the witnesses included Saudi Arabia, Russia,
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Israel, as well as former CIA director, inferred to the CIA director under the Bush administration.
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So it's more than just America or Mossad, you're saying?
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So my thing is this, Pat, who, if Trump isn't in there, and Trump is innocent, then there
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Protecting people that have given you millions and millions to win.
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Again, Bill Gates, who I know we'll get into later, Bill Gates yesterday, this guy, of
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all the stuff that he's done, he's sitting next to the president like everything is good.
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Mind you, this is the guy that his wife, Melinda, left him, and the main reason she said her
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words was because of his relationship after Epstein was already a convicted pedophile.
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She said, when I first met him, he was evil personified.
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She said, she goes, he was abhorrent, and she goes, I didn't-
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You're saying, you're saying that the president is protecting a guy like Bill Gates?
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I believe, like, people like John Paulson and stuff, this is my, this is just, I guess,
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some people would say that the reason that this hasn't come out, because, I mean, how
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many, Pat, how many mess-ups, how many lies, from Pam Bondi to Kash Patel to Dan Bongino looking
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Like, something is off, something is off, and I don't think we're ever going to get to
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the actual answer, and I don't think anybody will go to jail.
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I don't know if, okay, so, Martha Stewart, she went to jail for five months.
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For insider training, and for something that everybody today does, and she went away for,
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Do I think no one's going to be held accountable?
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If you don't believe no one's going to be held accountable, not 100%, it's never going
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The reason why it's never going to be 100% is why.
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So I'm talking to one of the guys at school, and the dean at school, and he says to me,
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he says, Pat, if I get a claim, and if I don't have documentation, if I don't have anything,
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if I don't have videos, if I don't have anything, I move on.
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I need something and a couple other witnesses to say something like that happened.
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If you don't believe anything can happen, and nothing will be held accountable, why are
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How many times, Rob, would you say, in all the podcasts in 2025, how many podcasts, say
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we've done two, four, eight, eight times, seven months, let's just say, is what, 56?
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Out of the 56 podcasts we've done this year, home team Rob, how many times do you think Epstein's
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Actually ask the question, why are we talking about it?
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Because we have, I mean, we're at the point where we are right now because we know it's
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absolutely insane because they get away with murder, literally, that we want something
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I mean, I hope that they're going to freaking...
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The moment you no longer hope, you no longer think justice will be held, hope is gone.
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So I believe even bringing it up and now you're seeing Marjorie Taylor Greene, you're seeing
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By the way, Marjorie Taylor Greene isn't part of the same camp as Massey.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene was the one when Kevin McCarthy was up on there negotiating all this
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She's like a America first Trump at the highest level.
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The largest press conference that I've seen since I've been here.
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And this is because this is an issue that matters so much to Americans.
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This is an issue that doesn't have political boundaries.
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It's an issue that Republicans and Democrats should never fight about.
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As a matter of fact, it's such an important issue that it should bring us all together.
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It's grieved me to watch the arguments and debates take place among my colleagues and even the administration.
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I think this is something that's worth fighting for.
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You see, the women behind me are going to tell you stories that you've never heard before.
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These are unimaginable horrors that they've lived with for their entire lives since they were very, very young.
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But these are also similar stories that many children, teenagers, women, and even men are enduring nightmares right now as we speak.
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What is the other clip that President Trump calling you to hoax?
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You know, it reminds me a little of the Kennedy situation.
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We gave him everything over and over again, more and more and more, and nobody's ever satisfied.
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From what I understand, I could check, but from what I understand, thousands of pages of documents have been given.
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But it's really a Democrat hoax because they're trying to get people to talk about something that's totally irrelevant to the success that we've had as a nation since I've been president.
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Why don't you just say, let's see what happens?
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Why would the president of the United States say, which we all know is not true, that this is a hoax?
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There are women that are standing there that I guarantee would pass a lie detector test, that they were assaulted by Jeffrey Epstein.
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Why don't they go in a session, bring them in there, bring the people in there.
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It'd be easy to corroborate with evidence of the footage that the FBI or somebody has, which was it missing.
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They have the footage of Jeffrey's of his house with all the footage.
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Okay, so this clip right here, hang on one second here.
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F-16s flew over the Epstein press conference while the victims were shooting.
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Justice telling me that this was going to happen when it had already happened.
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I have no idea, but the timing is pretty freaking crazy.
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So, some things die, some things stay, and some things keep getting bigger.
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Now you've got Gloria Allred with even more victims talking about New Mexico Ranch, not just the island, not just laying.
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So, you've got three women that's saying, I will give you dates, I will show you flights, I will show you where it was, and we're compiling our own list.
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They're not paid influencers hiding behind an account on X just trying to howl at the moon on some issue.
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No, these are people coming to a microphone, putting their face in the public eye, and it's getting worse.
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So, and now MTG, she comes down there, and now she comes out, and then there's little things going on.
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She's taking political risk coming to that microphone.
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And so, I look at it as that people are realizing the depth of what happened here.
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It's like, why does Ghislaine go from one prison down to the more—
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A lesser restrictive and a lesser harsh prison by a lot of people's descriptions that's in Texas.
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I'll give you an interview, but you've got to move me to a little bit more comfortable prison.
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Stop, you know, trolling this topic because you're turning your own team against you.
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And whatever they come out with, we will release.
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You have so many great things that's going on right now in America.
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Streets of the biggest criminal, you know, crimes, homicides, you're cleaning it up.
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This is a record-breaking month in the history of America with tariffs.
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You got stuff that's going on right now where—
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Rates are about to go down three more times between now and the end of the year, give or take.
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Two or three more times between now and the end of the year.
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You've cornered people that are wanting to do stuff with you.
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Now, he has a way of saying things, which is very powerful.
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I hope he's watching this, even if it's by himself.
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Honestly, I don't know what's going on with that.
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I mean, the reality—I've hired great people, and let's see what they find out, and justice will prevail.
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What I don't like is a lot of people use the Me Too movement to ruin a lot of men's lives.
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And that's something that makes me very uncomfortable.
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Because we saw when it happened at first, everything was about Me Too, Me Too, Me Too.
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Everybody, one by one by one, they started to 30 million, 20 million, 18 million, 16 million.
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And it doesn't mean everybody was part of the Me Too movement, right?
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So I'm a little bit sympathetic to that because I saw what happened.
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But if there are people that did do it and there is proof to it, let justice prevail.
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There's literally no benefit of calling it that.
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All these massive documentaries that are being done where kids are saying, a girl goes and brought 14-year-old girls to Epstein that he hooked up with.
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And she got paid $200 for bringing a 14-year-old girl from her high school.
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And then she got in trouble because she brought 24 girls to Epstein.
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Why would she get in trouble for bringing 24 girls?
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Why would the cop say, you're also committing a crime?
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So if she's getting in trouble for it, so that means he's doing it.
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So, I don't know, I think every time it goes like this, notice the pattern with, and I don't want to go a lot with Epstein from your end, Adam.
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If you have anything unique you want to say, tell me.
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If it's anything that's the same old, if this is not on my top 20 list, this is not this, we can just move on.
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But that's what I want you to be thinking about.
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If it goes like this, notice the Epstein story.
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Whatever you truly want to say, say it privately.
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I just don't know if I like that approach that he's taking.
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Because are you familiar with the secret rule in grand jury testimonies?
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But I heard something that might be the reason that nobody can say a damn word.
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It's a secrecy rule for the U.S. federal grand juries.
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And it's basically a shield where you can't say anything at all.
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It's like a gag order or a sealed document, no matter what the rule is.
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So why does this always come back to the courts?
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You think Thomas Massey knows anything about this?
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You think Marjorie Terry Lee Green knows anything about this?
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If Pam Bondi and Kash Patel and Dan Bongino aren't saying anything, these two guys don't know anything.
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But I would encourage you to look into this thing called the secret rule, called Rule 6E.
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Shout out to Jeffrey Mead for talking about this.
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It's basically saying there's a gag order and you can't say a thing.
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But according to sealed documents, they cannot unseal them in court.
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For me to keep saying it's a hoax instead of saying I've empowered people to do the job and let's see what comes out.
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Now you're saying the biggest press conference.
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Now a girl that was on your side flips and is loud.
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She can do more push-ups and pull-ups than 99% of men out there.
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Yeah, but all I'm saying, my frustration with this isn't with this.
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Let the guys do their part and find out what's the bottom of it.
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I think everybody wants to get to the bottom of this, but this is a reason why they can never get to the bottom.
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Because the courts are intervening and saying, no, you're not going to find out anything.
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These victims from New Mexico weren't in front of grand juries.
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They're coming to a microphone saying what happened to them in 1996, Adam.
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No, no, Adam, what he's saying with the law is that you're going to get away.
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Why don't you look up, and it was meant to protect witnesses from other witnesses, that if I leaked, we're in a mob grand jury, and all of us are testifying against it, and I mention who was in there with me, and I mention also what went on in there, all of us could be retaliated against by the mob that wants to kill witnesses.
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I don't think it has anything to do with Epstein.
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These victims from 1996 from New Mexico are talking about what happened to themselves.
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They're talking about it in hearings, in open hearings, that Nancy Mace leaves in tears because it relates to her.
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So there may be grand jury elements here, but there's a lot of people.
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I'm a girl that was assaulted by Epstein and some of these higher-ups.
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I haven't done nothing, but I'm going to the stand, and I have a story to tell.
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I was underage and X, Y, and Z at Epstein Island altar, and guess what?
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They're all in government, or they're all big Silicon Valley guys.
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Because the one girl that came forward, what happened to her?
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The prince, a prince of England, got hooked up with an underage girl, and you know what
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A little bit of money and a slap on the wrist from the queen, from his mother.
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For me, Rob, what did the girls, did you have one of what the girls was saying, or no?
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Here, here's the victim talking about putting together their own list together.
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And stand with us in declaring that no one, no billionaires, no politicians, not world leaders,
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Several of us F-team survivors have been discussing creating our own list of names.
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To me, every time he says hoax, these things are going to get bigger.
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Every time they say hoax, this is going to get bigger.
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FYI, if I was a Democrat right now, I would be running with this 24-7.
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If I was a Democrat, I'm not talking mainstream.
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Because mainstream knows a lot of the guys on that list are also Democrats.
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So a lot of Democrats also don't want their best friends and stuff to be affected by it.
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But if I'm anything on the other side, like you're seeing Newsom's driving this.
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But I think Trump is sitting there saying they're not going to because both sides are implicated.
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So if they're both guilty, that's, but all I'm saying to you is keep saying hoax.
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Keep saying hoax and see if this thing goes away.
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Can you just go to search and type and, okay, go a little bit lower.
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The other day, one of my guys goes to, he's wearing a P-B-D podcast shirt.
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