Valuetainment - September 05, 2025


"Stop Calling It A Hoax!" - Trump TROLLS Epstein Victims During DC Press Conference


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Rob and Vinny talk about the Epstein scandal and why it s not a hoax and why the perpetrators are being protected by the establishment in Washington, D.C. Pat and Rob talk about why they don t think the Epstein files are a hoax.

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00:00:00.000 This is Thomas Massey yesterday at the hearing, or I'm sorry, at the press conference where he
00:00:03.900 talks about the claims that this is going to be another hoax and the Epstein files are a hoax.
00:00:08.560 Go for it. Go ahead and play this clip. Go ahead and play this clip.
00:00:09.580 I think it's shameful that this has been called a hoax. Hopefully today we can clear that up.
00:00:15.920 This is not a hoax. This is real. There are real survivors. There are real victims
00:00:21.880 to this criminal enterprise. And the perpetrators are being protected
00:00:26.960 because they're rich and powerful and political donors
00:00:31.300 to the establishment here in Washington, D.C.
00:00:35.880 Okay. So aside from that, I saw Gloria Allred calling out.
00:00:41.280 I saw a bunch of different things. Is this Ro Khanna? And what is he saying here?
00:00:44.720 This is Thomas Massey. He names one of the people implicated in the Epstein.
00:00:49.220 Yeah, because what he says with Ro Khanna, he says these kids, these girls,
00:00:53.040 if they go out and say the names, they will be sued for the rest of their lives.
00:00:56.740 He says, but I can do it. We are going to read out the names.
00:01:00.140 So apparently him and Ro Khanna want to go out there and read off the names that they have
00:01:03.660 because they're not worried about them being sued.
00:01:06.080 But the people that know the names are being told by their lawyers to not leak the names
00:01:10.160 because of specific reasons. Who knows?
00:01:12.240 Gloria Allred, who is somebody who is represented.
00:01:14.900 By the way, Gloria Allred, I believe, is representing 27 of the rape victims.
00:01:19.080 Rob, can you validate if I would? Is it 26 or 27?
00:01:22.300 Gloria Allred, who is the GOAT in the space of, what do you want to call this?
00:01:25.840 The sexual harassment stuff.
00:01:29.320 She's been the one.
00:01:31.520 A very good documentary about her will tell you why she is, yeah, 27 survivors she's representing.
00:01:37.760 So she's representing 27 of the Epstein victims.
00:01:42.620 And they're worried about going out and giving the names.
00:01:45.100 But here's what Thomas Massey had to say. Go ahead, Rob.
00:01:46.920 I'll give you the name of one of the billionaires who's running $2 million of ads in my district
00:01:52.840 since I started this effort. His name is John Paulson.
00:01:56.400 He's a hedge fund manager and a major donor to the Republican Party,
00:02:02.340 a major donor to the Speaker of the House,
00:02:04.780 a major donor to the President's campaign.
00:02:07.040 And he's in Epstein's Black Book.
00:02:09.460 Now that's public, but that's indicative of the types of people who may be implicated
00:02:14.880 or just embarrassed by a release of, a completely release of these files.
00:02:20.060 Okay. So, Vinny, question to you.
00:02:24.020 Yes.
00:02:24.340 Do you still believe nothing's going to happen to the names?
00:02:29.140 Do you still believe Thomas Massey's time is being wasted?
00:02:32.580 Do you still believe Ro Khanna's wasting his time saying all the stuff that they're saying
00:02:36.000 because nothing's going to happen?
00:02:37.340 Or do you believe there's going to be a little bit of justice for some people out there?
00:02:41.800 What I wish, Pat, and what I know, like not what I believe is going to happen
00:02:46.120 are completely on the opposite.
00:02:47.800 You know what I wish for.
00:02:48.900 I want every single person, not just on the list, Pat.
00:02:52.400 I want who was there, victim, corroborated story, footage that all of a sudden
00:02:57.280 nobody knows where it is, no cash to tell, no, no.
00:03:00.560 Remember the 10,000 hours of footage?
00:03:02.620 Okay.
00:03:03.220 What I'm starting to feel like is, because a lot of people are like,
00:03:07.020 Trump's on it, Trump's on it, Trump's on it.
00:03:08.620 Let's put that to the side.
00:03:09.820 We're finding out that people like John Paulson,
00:03:12.880 who was one of the biggest donors to the President, okay, is on that list.
00:03:17.660 Okay.
00:03:17.940 And by the way, I do not like how everybody has turned on Thomas Massey.
00:03:21.840 He's the only one, to me, him and like Marjorie Taylor Greene that are actually
00:03:27.140 still keeping this fire freaking lit and keeping it going.
00:03:30.460 Okay.
00:03:30.660 A lot of people are saying, you know, what's her name?
00:03:33.500 Gloria Albright.
00:03:34.520 This whole thing lost credibility because she's involved because she's all,
00:03:37.820 you know, all about the glitz and the glamour.
00:03:40.520 But think about it.
00:03:41.340 John Paulson's one of them, Pat, if we have to think about it, besides Bill Clinton,
00:03:45.440 besides, you know, the intelligence agency, which Paula Luna just came out and said 0.91
00:03:49.220 that, and Rob, I might have sent it to you, Paula Luna said that the intelligence stuff,
00:03:53.440 that the leaked documents, have the CIA, have Israel, and have Russia, and I believe China.
00:03:58.840 Everybody was-
00:03:59.700 Now there's more countries involved?
00:04:01.440 She, and I think, yeah, that's it.
00:04:03.280 Pat, if you look right there, she says, in my opinion, there's definitely an intelligence
00:04:06.140 connection.
00:04:07.020 Countries named, and the lead attorney for the witnesses included Saudi Arabia, Russia,
00:04:11.040 Israel, as well as former CIA director, inferred to the CIA director under the Bush administration.
00:04:17.700 So it's more than just America or Mossad, you're saying?
00:04:20.200 It's Russia and Saudi are involved. 0.99
00:04:21.700 Now, all these-
00:04:22.260 I wouldn't be surprised.
00:04:23.440 I wouldn't be surprised.
00:04:24.260 The victims are-
00:04:24.360 Why would I be surprised?
00:04:25.340 Yeah.
00:04:25.840 From all I heard, it was all Mossad.
00:04:27.100 So my thing is this, Pat, who, if Trump isn't in there, and Trump is innocent, then there
00:04:32.420 has to, what's the other explanation?
00:04:34.140 What's the other reason?
00:04:35.900 Protecting people that have given you millions and millions to win.
00:04:39.880 Again, Bill Gates, who I know we'll get into later, Bill Gates yesterday, this guy, of
00:04:44.320 all the stuff that he's done, he's sitting next to the president like everything is good.
00:04:47.540 And Melania.
00:04:48.040 And Melania, right there.
00:04:49.640 Mind you, this is the guy that his wife, Melinda, left him, and the main reason she said her
00:04:55.440 words was because of his relationship after Epstein was already a convicted pedophile.
00:04:59.860 She said, when I first met him, he was evil personified.
00:05:03.980 You know what I mean?
00:05:04.580 That's a huge step.
00:05:06.140 She said, she goes, he was abhorrent, and she goes, I didn't-
00:05:08.700 So what are you saying?
00:05:09.220 You're saying, you're saying that the president is protecting a guy like Bill Gates?
00:05:13.980 I believe, like, people like John Paulson and stuff, this is my, this is just, I guess,
00:05:17.920 some people would say that the reason that this hasn't come out, because, I mean, how
00:05:22.540 many, Pat, how many mess-ups, how many lies, from Pam Bondi to Kash Patel to Dan Bongino looking
00:05:28.780 like this?
00:05:29.320 He killed himself.
00:05:30.180 Like, somebody had a gun to his head.
00:05:31.880 To now Trump saying it's a Democrat hoax.
00:05:34.740 Like, something is off, something is off, and I don't think we're ever going to get to
00:05:39.800 the actual answer, and I don't think anybody will go to jail.
00:05:43.940 Anybody.
00:05:44.400 And that's a sad, sad thing for me to say.
00:05:46.580 Yeah.
00:05:46.600 I don't know if, okay, so, Martha Stewart, she went to jail for five months. 1.00
00:05:51.300 Yeah.
00:05:51.520 For insider training, and for something that everybody today does, and she went away for,
00:05:58.000 right?
00:05:58.340 Okay.
00:05:59.240 Do I think no one's going to be held accountable?
00:06:02.160 So watch this, Vinny.
00:06:03.060 Here's one way of thinking about it.
00:06:04.940 If you don't believe no one's going to be held accountable, not 100%, it's never going
00:06:10.080 to be 100%, just so you know that.
00:06:11.660 It's never going to be 100%.
00:06:12.820 The reason why it's never going to be 100% is why.
00:06:14.880 You don't have enough documents to prove.
00:06:16.720 By the way, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
00:06:18.260 Yes.
00:06:18.880 But guess what the court needs?
00:06:20.300 Proof.
00:06:20.620 Proof.
00:06:21.240 Yeah, show me.
00:06:21.620 So I'm talking to one of the guys at school, and the dean at school, and he says to me,
00:06:25.140 he says, Pat, if I get a claim, and if I don't have documentation, if I don't have anything,
00:06:28.680 if I don't have videos, if I don't have anything, I move on.
00:06:31.080 I can't do anything with it.
00:06:32.060 I need something and a couple other witnesses to say something like that happened.
00:06:36.040 If they have it, they can do it.
00:06:37.120 But watch this.
00:06:39.380 If you don't believe anything can happen, and nothing will be held accountable, why are
00:06:43.220 we talking about it?
00:06:45.180 Why are we talking about it?
00:06:47.040 Why talk about it on the podcast?
00:06:48.520 Why bring it up?
00:06:49.140 What's the outcome of us talking about it?
00:06:50.660 I want them to know that we know.
00:06:54.360 I want them.
00:06:55.080 But they know.
00:06:55.800 But they know.
00:06:56.680 We need to say it one time, and it's plenty.
00:06:58.740 But actually, think about to the core.
00:07:00.300 Why do we talk about a certain story?
00:07:03.760 How many times, Rob, would you say, in all the podcasts in 2025, how many podcasts, say
00:07:11.660 we've done two, four, eight, eight times, seven months, let's just say, is what, 56?
00:07:17.960 Out of the 56 podcasts we've done this year, home team Rob, how many times do you think Epstein's
00:07:23.060 been mentioned in one of those 56 podcasts?
00:07:24.940 Maybe a quarter.
00:07:26.080 Maybe a quarter.
00:07:26.740 About 25%.
00:07:27.340 I agree.
00:07:27.960 So let's just say 14.
00:07:29.140 Higher than that.
00:07:30.200 Go on.
00:07:30.700 Let's just say 14.
00:07:31.820 Why are we talking about it?
00:07:34.120 Actually ask the question, why are we talking about it?
00:07:35.880 Actually answer the question?
00:07:36.840 Yeah.
00:07:37.100 Because we have, I mean, we're at the point where we are right now because we know it's
00:07:41.660 absolutely insane because they get away with murder, literally, that we want something
00:07:46.220 to change.
00:07:47.180 Something to happen.
00:07:47.900 I want justice for the...
00:07:49.480 Where does that come from?
00:07:50.340 What emotion produces that?
00:07:51.740 It's one word and it starts with the letter H.
00:07:56.320 Hate?
00:07:56.640 It's one word.
00:07:57.100 No, hope.
00:07:58.060 Oh, yeah.
00:07:58.880 I mean, I hope that they're going to freaking...
00:08:01.400 But guess what we need with hope?
00:08:03.160 Hope is a very powerful thing.
00:08:04.820 The moment you no longer hope, you no longer think justice will be held, hope is gone.
00:08:10.720 When hope is gone, what do people do?
00:08:12.440 They give up.
00:08:13.000 When people give up, what happens?
00:08:14.120 More victims.
00:08:14.640 So I believe even bringing it up and now you're seeing Marjorie Taylor Greene, you're seeing
00:08:23.500 Ro Khanna, you're seeing Massey.
00:08:26.800 By the way, Marjorie Taylor Greene isn't part of the same camp as Massey.
00:08:31.420 I think Massey's here.
00:08:33.280 Marjorie Taylor Greene is here.
00:08:35.020 Marjorie Taylor Greene was the one when Kevin McCarthy was up on there negotiating all this
00:08:39.920 stuff and says, hey, pick up the phone, Trump.
00:08:41.960 Like that's...
00:08:42.560 People forget who she is.
00:08:43.660 She's like a America first Trump at the highest level.
00:08:48.280 Now she's here.
00:08:49.260 Rob, go on and play this clip.
00:08:51.100 The largest press conference that I've seen since I've been here.
00:08:55.500 And this is because this is an issue that matters so much to Americans.
00:09:00.080 This is an issue that doesn't have political boundaries.
00:09:04.040 It's an issue that Republicans and Democrats should never fight about.
00:09:08.160 As a matter of fact, it's such an important issue that it should bring us all together.
00:09:13.660 It's grieved me to watch the arguments and debates take place among my colleagues and even the administration.
00:09:21.480 I think this is something that's worth fighting for.
00:09:25.240 You see, the women behind me are going to tell you stories that you've never heard before. 0.60
00:09:31.800 These are unimaginable horrors that they've lived with for their entire lives since they were very, very young.
00:09:39.660 But these are also similar stories that many children, teenagers, women, and even men are enduring nightmares right now as we speak.
00:09:50.000 We can pause it.
00:09:50.860 So she goes on.
00:09:52.460 And then, Rob, there's another clip as well.
00:09:54.420 What is the other clip that President Trump calling you to hoax?
00:09:57.240 Go for it.
00:09:57.700 So this is a Democrat hoax that never ends.
00:10:03.360 You know, it reminds me a little of the Kennedy situation.
00:10:06.920 We gave him everything over and over again, more and more and more, and nobody's ever satisfied.
00:10:12.640 From what I understand, I could check, but from what I understand, thousands of pages of documents have been given.
00:10:19.400 But it's really a Democrat hoax because they're trying to get people to talk about something that's totally irrelevant to the success that we've had as a nation since I've been president.
00:10:29.460 Both can be right.
00:10:33.780 I know.
00:10:35.240 I know.
00:10:35.800 Why are you saying a hoax?
00:10:37.640 Yep.
00:10:38.160 It's not a hoax.
00:10:39.440 Why don't you just say, let's see what happens?
00:10:42.140 I've empowered my guys to find out.
00:10:43.940 So let me ask you a question.
00:10:45.180 Why would he say that?
00:10:47.760 Why would the president of the United States say, which we all know is not true, that this is a hoax?
00:10:54.020 There are women that are standing there that I guarantee would pass a lie detector test, that they were assaulted by Jeffrey Epstein. 0.99
00:11:00.560 And here's my thing, Pat.
00:11:01.840 They're saying, we have the names.
00:11:03.700 We're going to put out our own list.
00:11:05.280 Why don't they go in a session, bring them in there, bring the people in there.
00:11:09.660 It'd be easy to corroborate with evidence of the footage that the FBI or somebody has, which was it missing.
00:11:17.560 They have the footage of Jeffrey's of his house with all the footage.
00:11:21.500 What are we even talking about?
00:11:22.680 Rob, what is this to fly over?
00:11:23.880 Okay, so this clip right here, hang on one second here.
00:11:27.140 F-16s flew over the Epstein press conference while the victims were shooting.
00:11:31.560 Let's hear it.
00:11:32.780 Justice telling me that this was going to happen when it had already happened.
00:11:38.240 This woman abused children. 1.00
00:11:42.580 Who's flying over?
00:11:47.720 What is that?
00:11:48.000 That's our F-16s.
00:11:50.720 Intentionally?
00:11:51.320 I have no idea, but the timing is pretty freaking crazy.
00:11:54.720 Look how long they had to stop talking.
00:11:55.860 This is taking place in D.C.?
00:11:57.760 Yes.
00:11:58.200 On Capitol Hill.
00:11:58.720 Tom, your thoughts.
00:11:59.560 Tom, your thoughts here.
00:12:00.380 So, some things die, some things stay, and some things keep getting bigger.
00:12:09.340 And when you have stories like this.
00:12:11.800 This one keeps getting bigger.
00:12:13.640 Now you've got Gloria Allred with even more victims talking about New Mexico Ranch, not just the island, not just laying.
00:12:22.340 Zora Ranch.
00:12:23.520 Yeah, the ranch in Mexico.
00:12:25.560 In 1996.
00:12:27.120 So, you've got three women that's saying, I will give you dates, I will show you flights, I will show you where it was, and we're compiling our own list.
00:12:34.340 So, to me, that's more stuff coming.
00:12:36.820 Why do these people do it? 0.69
00:12:38.120 They're not paid influencers hiding behind an account on X just trying to howl at the moon on some issue.
00:12:46.300 You know how that works.
00:12:47.040 They lobbyists and pay people to do that.
00:12:48.960 No, these are people coming to a microphone, putting their face in the public eye, and it's getting worse.
00:12:53.860 So, and now MTG, she comes down there, and now she comes out, and then there's little things going on.
00:13:01.540 What's she doing?
00:13:02.300 And people are upset with her.
00:13:03.660 She's taking political risk coming to that microphone. 1.00
00:13:06.380 And now you have MTG.
00:13:07.640 It's getting worse.
00:13:08.580 And so, I look at it as that people are realizing the depth of what happened here.
00:13:16.720 And I think that there's a deal.
00:13:21.960 It's like, why does Ghislaine go from one prison down to the more—
00:13:26.400 A lesser prison.
00:13:27.320 A lesser restrictive and a lesser harsh prison by a lot of people's descriptions that's in Texas.
00:13:34.360 How did she move there?
00:13:36.420 Was this part of the negotiation?
00:13:38.160 Todd Blanch.
00:13:38.440 I'll talk to you.
00:13:39.080 I'll give you an interview, but you've got to move me to a little bit more comfortable prison.
00:13:44.280 They didn't send her to a condo. 0.97
00:13:45.560 They sent her to another prison.
00:13:47.020 So, Pat, it keeps getting worse.
00:13:50.060 And that's what bothers me.
00:13:51.400 What bothers me is more keeps coming out.
00:13:54.080 It's not more people covering it.
00:13:55.740 He just has to do one thing.
00:13:57.800 Stop calling it a hoax.
00:13:59.620 Agree.
00:14:00.060 Stop, you know, trolling this topic because you're turning your own team against you.
00:14:06.880 Keep saying, I've empowered Bondi.
00:14:09.980 I've empowered Cash.
00:14:11.660 I've empowered Ana Paulina.
00:14:13.920 I've empowered them.
00:14:15.200 And whatever they come out with, we will release.
00:14:18.000 Stop calling it a hoax.
00:14:20.380 You can't keep calling it a hoax.
00:14:23.640 It is—it is—it is—
00:14:26.460 You have so many great things that's going on right now in America.
00:14:30.020 So many great things.
00:14:32.060 Streets of the biggest criminal, you know, crimes, homicides, you're cleaning it up.
00:14:37.360 Border is clean.
00:14:38.780 Tariffs, $30 billion in August, guys.
00:14:41.920 $30 billion of revenue in August.
00:14:44.020 Cash to the U.S. and United States.
00:14:45.100 Cash to the U.S.
00:14:46.140 This is a record-breaking month in the history of America with tariffs.
00:14:49.540 They thought inflation was going to be crazy.
00:14:51.380 Didn't happen.
00:14:53.140 You got stuff that's going on right now where—
00:14:56.040 Rates are about to go down three more times between now and the end of the year, give or take.
00:15:00.600 Two or three more times between now and the end of the year.
00:15:02.740 This is stuff that we've never seen.
00:15:04.260 Borders clean. 0.99
00:15:05.880 You're doing deals with people.
00:15:07.340 You've cornered people that are wanting to do stuff with you.
00:15:09.760 They're coming to you.
00:15:10.660 They're knocking on the door.
00:15:12.600 Don't say hoax.
00:15:15.100 It's not helping your camp out.
00:15:18.340 Leave it alone and let them do the job.
00:15:20.720 Now, he has a way of saying things, which is very powerful.
00:15:23.980 I hope he's watching this, even if it's by himself.
00:15:26.640 When you say things like—I don't know.
00:15:30.000 Honestly, I don't know what's going on with that.
00:15:31.500 I mean, the reality—I've hired great people, and let's see what they find out, and justice will prevail.
00:15:35.820 And let's leave it up to them.
00:15:36.800 And if it happened, great.
00:15:37.840 If it didn't happen, great.
00:15:39.220 But guess what?
00:15:39.940 What I don't like is a lot of people use the Me Too movement to ruin a lot of men's lives.
00:15:44.800 And that concerns me.
00:15:46.220 And that's something that makes me very uncomfortable.
00:15:48.000 Because we saw when it happened at first, everything was about Me Too, Me Too, Me Too.
00:15:52.000 Everybody, one by one by one, they started to 30 million, 20 million, 18 million, 16 million.
00:15:56.400 It was like, let me get everybody.
00:15:58.000 And it doesn't mean everybody was part of the Me Too movement, right?
00:16:01.180 So I'm a little bit sympathetic to that because I saw what happened.
00:16:04.540 It would ruin a lot of men's lives.
00:16:05.940 But if there are people that did do it and there is proof to it, let justice prevail.
00:16:10.380 That's all you have to say.
00:16:11.860 You don't need to say hoax.
00:16:13.240 There's no benefit of saying that.
00:16:15.440 There's literally no benefit of calling it that.
00:16:19.500 All these massive documentaries that are being done where kids are saying, a girl goes and brought 14-year-old girls to Epstein that he hooked up with.
00:16:27.940 And she got paid $200 for bringing a 14-year-old girl from her high school.
00:16:32.460 You think that's an act?
00:16:34.360 And then she got in trouble because she brought 24 girls to Epstein. 1.00
00:16:37.660 Why would she get in trouble for bringing 24 girls? 0.99
00:16:40.460 Why would the cop say, you're also committing a crime?
00:16:43.340 What is the crime?
00:16:44.900 She brought underage girls to Epstein. 0.64
00:16:46.680 The cop says, you're also a criminal.
00:16:48.920 What did I do wrong?
00:16:50.460 How about him?
00:16:51.620 Well, no, you're bringing underage.
00:16:53.140 So if she's getting in trouble for it, so that means he's doing it.
00:16:56.760 So if he's doing it, the victims are there.
00:16:58.820 This is not a, this is overly documented.
00:17:01.580 So, I don't know, I think every time it goes like this, notice the pattern with, and I don't want to go a lot with Epstein from your end, Adam.
00:17:09.880 I just want to move on to the next stories.
00:17:11.360 If you have anything unique you want to say, tell me.
00:17:13.700 If it's anything that's the same old, if this is not on my top 20 list, this is not this, we can just move on.
00:17:18.880 I'll come to a different story with you.
00:17:20.400 But that's what I want you to be thinking about.
00:17:22.260 If it goes like this, notice the Epstein story.
00:17:25.760 It peaks.
00:17:26.820 Then what does it do?
00:17:27.900 Dips.
00:17:28.540 Dips.
00:17:29.580 And then you say hoax.
00:17:31.160 Boom.
00:17:31.560 And it comes back up.
00:17:32.560 Yep.
00:17:33.180 So guess what?
00:17:34.260 It's because you keep, you're the momentum.
00:17:38.400 Change the script.
00:17:40.600 Give a different message.
00:17:42.880 And let your guys do the part.
00:17:44.420 Whatever you truly want to say, say it privately.
00:17:46.460 Stop calling it a hoax publicly.
00:17:49.140 There's other things that we can go with.
00:17:51.180 I just don't know if I like that approach that he's taking.
00:17:53.660 Is there anything unique you want to say?
00:17:55.020 Yes, I do.
00:17:55.200 Go ahead.
00:17:55.900 So you may not want to call it a hoax.
00:17:58.620 You might not want to call it a cover-up.
00:18:00.120 But you can certainly call it a secret.
00:18:02.200 Because are you familiar with the secret rule in grand jury testimonies?
00:18:07.900 A rule called 6E?
00:18:09.780 Have you heard about any of this?
00:18:11.380 So you guys cover Epstein more than me.
00:18:13.220 But I heard something that might be the reason that nobody can say a damn word.
00:18:17.700 So find out what rule 6E is.
00:18:19.740 It's basically secrecy.
00:18:22.120 It's a secrecy rule for the U.S. federal grand juries.
00:18:25.100 And it's basically a shield where you can't say anything at all.
00:18:31.100 It's like a gag order or a sealed document, no matter what the rule is.
00:18:35.700 So why does this always come back to the courts?
00:18:37.460 Always come back to the courts.
00:18:38.480 Always come back to the courts.
00:18:39.940 You think Thomas Massey knows anything about this?
00:18:42.360 You think Marjorie Terry Lee Green knows anything about this?
00:18:44.720 If Pam Bondi and Kash Patel and Dan Bongino aren't saying anything, these two guys don't know anything.
00:18:51.520 But I would encourage you to look into this thing called the secret rule, called Rule 6E.
00:18:56.540 Shout out to Jeffrey Mead for talking about this.
00:18:58.600 It's basically saying there's a gag order and you can't say a thing.
00:19:02.940 So I'm removing complete emotion from this.
00:19:05.640 Everyone gets so worked up about Epstein.
00:19:07.740 But according to sealed documents, they cannot unseal them in court.
00:19:12.260 What's the point?
00:19:13.680 What do you mean?
00:19:14.960 Rule 6E, secrecy requirement.
00:19:17.580 So that's why you keep saying it's a hoax?
00:19:20.560 And you think that's the right move?
00:19:22.040 For me to keep saying it's a hoax instead of saying I've empowered people to do the job and let's see what comes out.
00:19:28.600 I've empowered them to do the job.
00:19:30.360 Now you're saying the biggest press conference.
00:19:32.120 Now a girl that was on your side flips and is loud. 1.00
00:19:34.440 You think Marjorie Taylor Green is quiet?
00:19:36.920 Girl trains five, six times a day. 0.94
00:19:39.000 She can do more push-ups and pull-ups than 99% of men out there. 0.99
00:19:42.300 You think she's going to stop? 1.00
00:19:43.200 You think that's going to stop?
00:19:44.920 Nancy Mace?
00:19:45.860 Those are two different things.
00:19:48.360 This could be correct.
00:19:49.460 Well, they can keep going.
00:19:49.820 Yeah, but all I'm saying, my frustration with this isn't with this.
00:19:56.000 Let the guys do their part and find out what's the bottom of it.
00:20:00.520 Let's get to the bottom of this.
00:20:01.400 I think everybody wants to get to the bottom of this, but this is a reason why they can never get to the bottom.
00:20:06.140 Because the courts are intervening and saying, no, you're not going to find out anything.
00:20:09.860 My position is a different position.
00:20:11.180 These victims from New Mexico weren't in front of grand juries.
00:20:13.400 They're coming to a microphone saying what happened to them in 1996, Adam.
00:20:15.960 I didn't make this law, guys.
00:20:17.440 No, no, Adam, what he's saying with the law is that you're going to get away.
00:20:19.800 Why don't you look up, and it was meant to protect witnesses from other witnesses, that if I leaked, we're in a mob grand jury, and all of us are testifying against it, and I mention who was in there with me, and I mention also what went on in there, all of us could be retaliated against by the mob that wants to kill witnesses.
00:20:38.260 So there are things in grand jury.
00:20:40.100 I don't think it has anything to do with Epstein.
00:20:42.160 These victims from 1996 from New Mexico are talking about what happened to themselves.
00:20:46.020 They're talking about it in hearings, in open hearings, that Nancy Mace leaves in tears because it relates to her.
00:20:52.400 So there may be grand jury elements here, but there's a lot of people.
00:20:55.180 It's getting up.
00:20:57.920 Sorry, Pat.
00:20:59.180 Don't argue with me, by the way.
00:21:00.960 Argue with ChatGPT and Rule 16.
00:21:02.860 Adam, ready for this?
00:21:03.580 Because that's what it says here.
00:21:04.540 Adam, ready for this?
00:21:05.040 I'm a girl that was assaulted by Epstein and some of these higher-ups.
00:21:09.880 I haven't gone to court.
00:21:10.820 I haven't done nothing, but I'm going to the stand, and I have a story to tell.
00:21:14.100 There's nothing to do with grand jury.
00:21:15.720 She hasn't been to court yet.
00:21:17.080 What happens to that girl? 1.00
00:21:18.540 Like, ready for this?
00:21:19.220 I was raped.
00:21:20.360 I was underage and X, Y, and Z at Epstein Island altar, and guess what?
00:21:24.580 They're all in government, or they're all big Silicon Valley guys.
00:21:28.080 She has nothing to do with this rule.
00:21:30.120 That's the thing.
00:21:30.880 How is she going to come forward?
00:21:31.800 Because the one girl that came forward, what happened to her?
00:21:34.220 Prince Andrew, the girl.
00:21:36.120 They paid her off, right?
00:21:37.840 What was it, Pat?
00:21:38.520 Yeah.
00:21:38.780 Virginia Goofy.
00:21:39.500 What happened to that poor girl? 1.00
00:21:40.860 They gave her money.
00:21:41.860 The prince, a prince of England, got hooked up with an underage girl, and you know what
00:21:46.480 his penalty was?
00:21:47.320 A little bit of money and a slap on the wrist from the queen, from his mother.
00:21:50.560 And that was it.
00:21:51.800 Pedophilia put under the rug.
00:21:54.200 That's it.
00:21:54.820 That's what happened.
00:21:55.360 It's very simple.
00:21:56.240 Nobody's a fan of pedophilia.
00:21:56.900 Right in the backyard, Andrew.
00:21:58.380 For me, Rob, what did the girls, did you have one of what the girls was saying, or no?
00:22:05.640 Yes.
00:22:06.100 Here, here's the victim talking about putting together their own list together.
00:22:09.540 Go for it.
00:22:09.860 Transparency is justice.
00:22:11.980 Release the files.
00:22:13.440 End the secrecy.
00:22:14.500 And stand with us in declaring that no one, no billionaires, no politicians, not world leaders,
00:22:20.820 is above the law.
00:22:27.380 It's going to keep getting bigger, guys.
00:22:29.100 Let me announce now.
00:22:30.240 For one reason.
00:22:31.100 Several of us F-team survivors have been discussing creating our own list of names.
00:22:36.620 Please, hurry up.
00:22:38.100 Do it.
00:22:39.440 Why haven't they done it yet?
00:22:41.300 They don't want to get hit by a freaking bus.
00:22:44.440 So check this out.
00:22:45.560 So let me put it to you this way.
00:22:47.420 To me, every time he says hoax, these things are going to get bigger.
00:22:52.520 Very simple.
00:22:54.000 Every time they say hoax, this is going to get bigger.
00:22:56.900 And bigger, and bigger, and bigger.
00:22:59.100 It ain't going to get smaller.
00:23:00.760 FYI, if I was a Democrat right now, I would be running with this 24-7.
00:23:09.620 Well, they are.
00:23:10.300 If I was a Democrat.
00:23:11.680 No, they're not.
00:23:12.740 Not like that.
00:23:13.260 If I was a Democrat, I'm not talking mainstream.
00:23:16.240 Because mainstream knows a lot of the guys on that list are also Democrats.
00:23:18.860 So a lot of Democrats also don't want their best friends and stuff to be affected by it.
00:23:21.680 So that's why they're not doing it.
00:23:23.020 But if I'm anything on the other side, like you're seeing Newsom's driving this.
00:23:27.060 Newsom's on top of it, right?
00:23:28.220 If I'm any of those guys, I'd be driving this.
00:23:31.700 But I think Trump is sitting there saying they're not going to because both sides are implicated.
00:23:34.920 Both sides are, what do you call it?
00:23:36.900 Is that the word?
00:23:37.980 Yeah, implicated.
00:23:38.320 They're both guilty.
00:23:38.820 So if they're both guilty, that's, but all I'm saying to you is keep saying hoax.
00:23:43.820 Keep saying hoax and see if this thing goes away.
00:23:45.800 It's not going to go away.
00:23:46.480 It's going to keep getting bigger.
00:23:47.280 Folks, go get these because these products, I wore them.
00:23:51.940 It feels, anybody that sees it up front, they can't believe what it looks like.
00:23:56.580 May I, sir?
00:23:57.200 Can I say one thing?
00:23:57.860 May I?
00:23:58.300 Go ahead.
00:23:58.520 Pat, I wash and dry.
00:24:00.420 I'm dead serious.
00:24:01.160 Nothing, I wash and dry.
00:24:03.080 Nothing comes off.
00:24:04.400 Because the majority of these do mess up.
00:24:06.100 It's amazing.
00:24:06.420 Take it off.
00:24:07.140 It's magical.
00:24:07.680 And for those of you in California, the ink is flame retardant. 0.99
00:24:11.040 Wildfire season.
00:24:11.600 Go to vtmerch.com.
00:24:14.660 Get your future looks bright.
00:24:15.960 By the way, Rob, can you go to the new polo?
00:24:17.680 Can you go to the polo shirts that we got?
00:24:19.540 Guys, I saw a polo shirt that just came in.
00:24:21.960 Eric Caballero was wearing it.
00:24:23.700 First of all, I could not believe how ridiculous these polos were. 1.00
00:24:27.860 Can you just go to search and type and, okay, go a little bit lower.
00:24:30.360 See maybe if it's there.
00:24:31.520 Go a little bit lower, lower, lower, lower.
00:24:33.380 Oh, you're about to get to keep going lower.
00:24:35.560 That one right there to the right.
00:24:36.600 Oh, snap. 0.99
00:24:36.860 Oh, my God.
00:24:38.160 And he's jacked.
00:24:39.280 By the way, zoom in.
00:24:40.160 Go back a little bit, Rob, to zoom in.
00:24:41.860 The buttons are Valuetainment logo buttons.
00:24:45.080 I got it.
00:24:45.860 And the material is red.
00:24:47.780 I should have shown you the picture of Eric Caballero wearing that shirt.
00:24:51.500 And he's jacked.
00:24:52.080 Put the link to that as well.
00:24:53.380 The material of these polos are awesome.
00:24:55.260 For some of you guys that are going to work, it's hot.
00:24:57.400 You want to wear something nice.
00:24:58.800 These are high, high-end quality polo shirts that just came in as well.
00:25:02.900 Rob, if you want to put it on VT Merch.
00:25:04.180 Again, this is to all the people that we see.
00:25:05.960 The other day, one of my guys goes to, he's wearing a P-B-D podcast shirt.
00:25:11.840 And he goes out to a game.
00:25:13.000 He says, Pat, if I tell you 50 people to come and talk to me, we watch it as well.
00:25:18.660 We watch it as well.
00:25:19.400 We watch it as well.
00:25:20.300 To all the crazies out there that support what we're doing, we love you.
00:25:24.520 We appreciate you.
00:25:25.640 And we cannot wait to run into you somewhere here soon.
00:25:29.740 Who knows where that's going to be.
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