Valuetainment - September 06, 2025


“You’re Playing Politics” - Armenian PM Pashinyan REJECTS Netanyahu Genocide Recognition


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Nikol Pashinyan joins President Biden in objecting to U.S. recognition of the Armenian genocide. What does this say about the relationship between the Armenians and the people who actually committed the genocide on their people?

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00:00:00.000 All right, let's talk about somebody else who has decided to side with Turkey,
00:00:04.380 and that's none other than the prime minister of Armenia, Pashinyan,
00:00:08.920 joins Erdogan in objecting to American genocide recognition.
00:00:15.260 Pashinyan questioned the value of international recognition of the Armenian genocide,
00:00:21.600 aligning with Turkish President Recap Erdogan's denialist stance,
00:00:27.340 telling Armenian journalists last week that Netanyahu's statement had nothing to do with the Armenians' interests,
00:00:33.380 and asking, what have we gained from the recognition of the Armenian genocide by dozens of countries?
00:00:39.080 He further revealed questioning foreign leaders on their recognition motives,
00:00:43.720 prompting criticism for undermining decades of Armenian efforts to publicize the 1915-1923 Ottoman massacre of 1.5 million Armenians.
00:00:53.100 Harut Sasunyan, publisher of the California Courier, argued Pashinyan should demand justice,
00:01:00.040 including restitution and return of Western Armenian territory,
00:01:04.260 stating Pashinyan is thus actively undermining the pursuit of justice for the Armenian cause.
00:01:10.320 The controversy arose after the Armenian-Assyrian blogger—guys, I'm a blogger now.
00:01:14.480 Yeah, you're a blogger. You're downgraded.
00:01:16.120 I'm a blogger, PBD. Patrick David pressed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on August 27, 2025,
00:01:23.720 about Israel's failure to recognize the Armenian-Assyrian and the Greek genocide with Netanyahu falsely claiming,
00:01:30.520 in fact, I think we have.
00:01:32.500 I think the Knesset passed a resolution to that effect before being pushed and saying,
00:01:38.780 but the prime minister's never said it, and he said, I just did. Here you go.
00:01:42.460 So, Armenian prime minister saying that, I wonder what the Armenian prime minister said
00:01:48.520 when President Biden accepted and announced it.
00:01:52.680 When did President Biden, Rob, recognize the Armenian genocide?
00:01:56.720 When did he say it? Two years ago?
00:01:58.560 No, I want to say 2021, if I could guess.
00:02:00.360 Okay, four years ago, whatever the timeline was when he said it.
00:02:03.560 How did Armenians receive that? 0.56
00:02:05.720 Even guys who didn't vote for Biden, what did they say?
00:02:08.800 Hey, we gave them love.
00:02:10.020 Yeah, I was right. 2021.
00:02:11.100 2021. It was one of his first acts in office.
00:02:13.560 It was like, wow.
00:02:14.160 You're right.
00:02:14.660 And it was fairly quickly coming out, and it's not like he did it before running.
00:02:19.160 He did it, he announced it, boom, and then look what Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan said.
00:02:26.800 He praised it as a strong affirmation of human rights.
00:02:31.360 Meanwhile, Turkey strongly objected, warning it could cause U.S.-Turkey relations.
00:02:35.660 I'm curious, Pashinyan, how come you didn't take that same position with this one?
00:02:40.220 Oh, I got it, because now you're doing a deal with Azerbaijan, and you're siding with the people who actually committed the genocide on your people that you're now the Prime Minister with. 0.51
00:02:53.040 So what if Netanyahu praises it or not?
00:02:55.760 So what if he recognizes it or not?
00:02:57.820 So what, whether you like him or not, what are you afraid of?
00:03:01.000 It's another world leader that has never done it that is now finally doing it.
00:03:04.800 Isn't that validation for you?
00:03:06.680 Are you concerned about that?
00:03:08.260 Is this something that you worry about?
00:03:09.560 Now, don't get me wrong, a lot of people that are watching this, you know, 2% of the audience that's watching this is like, well, how about the genocide that he's committing and all this other stuff?
00:03:18.440 Let's isolate this issue.
00:03:20.240 Those are two separate topics that you want to go to.
00:03:22.240 You guys can go and, you know, join the mob with that conversation.
00:03:25.360 I'm isolating this one here.
00:03:27.200 It's very interesting what Pashinyan is doing with his handling on a situation like this.
00:03:32.860 I'd love to sit down with him and ask him why he would take that position.
00:03:36.060 Why would you be so welcoming of Biden's recognition but not Netanyahu's?
00:03:41.700 Well, because Netanyahu's playing politics.
00:03:44.180 They're all playing politics.
00:03:46.060 You think Biden's not playing politics?
00:03:48.260 You think all the other countries that claim that are not playing politics?
00:03:50.520 You think you're not playing politics?
00:03:52.280 You think Trump's not playing politics?
00:03:54.320 You think Zelensky's not playing politics?
00:03:55.360 You think Putin's not?
00:03:56.420 Who's in a state leader not playing politics?
00:04:00.340 Tell me one that's not playing politics.
00:04:02.140 Who?
00:04:03.540 Everybody's playing politics.
00:04:05.340 But if something gets recognized and it's given, receive it for the people that wanted you to receive it.
00:04:12.440 By the way, you have to realize, guys, within a span of a week, my life's been very weird.
00:04:19.380 For one day, we have the most like-dislike ratio interview.
00:04:23.980 They call it the greatest Netanyahu interview ever done.
00:04:26.400 Okay?
00:04:26.980 Record-breaking.
00:04:28.180 The greatest Netanyahu interview ever done.
00:04:29.900 Incredible.
00:04:30.200 Incredible.
00:04:32.260 And the like-dislike ratio, astronomical.
00:04:35.940 Never seen anything like this.
00:04:37.300 Humberto's favorite interview of all time.
00:04:39.000 Loves it.
00:04:39.540 So that's that part when that takes place.
00:04:42.100 Now, I got the most death threats ever.
00:04:45.680 Most.
00:04:46.180 To the point that we have to have certain things that we have to make adjustments for.
00:04:49.260 But that's that.
00:04:50.160 Week later is Jubilee.
00:04:52.240 And Jubilee, the greatest interview ever done to defend capitalism.
00:04:56.160 What an incredible, you know, spectacle of sitting there doing that.
00:05:01.420 Either way, they have two different purposes.
00:05:03.600 But on the fact that a guy like Netanyahu recognized the Armenian genocide, I got a lot of Armenians
00:05:09.200 that say, I don't need him to recognize it.
00:05:11.760 I don't need him to recognize it.
00:05:13.440 Are the same people who hated Biden, Trump supporters, that says, I don't need Biden to
00:05:18.340 recognize it.
00:05:19.260 Stop with your, what do you call it?
00:05:23.600 Self-righteous.
00:05:24.700 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:26.300 Holier than thou.
00:05:27.060 Holier than thou.
00:05:28.120 I don't want to receive that.
00:05:29.200 Stop.
00:05:29.700 Stop.
00:05:30.580 Stop.
00:05:31.380 Okay.
00:05:32.400 He said it.
00:05:33.360 It's documented.
00:05:34.620 It's there now.
00:05:36.080 And now let's see what Pashinyan is going to do with it.
00:05:38.280 Some tells me Pashinyan is very scared of Turkey and very worried.
00:05:43.000 And his diplomacy, the event that happened with Trump, Trump helping him out, at least
00:05:47.420 for now, he may be protected under Trump, but is Armenia going to be protected under whoever
00:05:52.180 the president's going to be after Trump?
00:05:53.500 I don't know.
00:05:54.000 Are you showing that kind of strength in diplomacy where your people are safe under your leadership?
00:05:58.620 Maybe, maybe not.
00:05:59.440 Who knows?
00:06:00.500 Anyways, I don't know if you guys have any one of you guys have any.
00:06:03.140 Go for it.
00:06:03.600 Go ahead, Adam.
00:06:04.320 Well, I don't have a horse in this race other than I'm a believer in the truth.
00:06:11.220 And if I'm Armenian, this is a complete slap in the face to any Armenian that cares about 1.00
00:06:16.800 the Armenian genocide.
00:06:18.240 And I'm sure we're going to have some stats that we can pull up about what the Ottoman
00:06:21.520 Empire did to their neighbors.
00:06:23.920 If you want to talk about genocide, you know, the Ottoman Empire, the Turks, they're at the 1.00
00:06:29.240 top of the list.
00:06:30.400 So everyone throws that G word out there, you know, for 50,000 more or less Hamas fighters
00:06:37.940 or civilians.
00:06:38.760 Friends, we're talking millions of people that died not thousands of years ago, not centuries
00:06:46.320 ago, 100 plus years ago.
00:06:48.440 And all these people died at the hands of the Ottoman Turks. 0.60
00:06:51.660 So now you have Erdogan of Turkey calling Bibi of Israel, the genocider.
00:06:58.460 Look in the mirror, big dog.
00:07:00.260 So it's pretty disgusting to me how, you know, when you point in the mirror, there's, you
00:07:04.460 know, you point, there's three fingers pointing right back at you.
00:07:06.820 There's a complete slap in the face.
00:07:08.340 I'm not involved in Armenian Azerbaijan politics, but it would appear to me that this guy is nothing
00:07:14.560 more than a Turkish puppet at this point.
00:07:17.580 Take the compliment, take the acknowledgement and move on.
00:07:21.840 There's a show called The Young Turks that Cenk and Anna run.
00:07:25.740 What are you, you're giving a shout out to the Armenian genocide?
00:07:29.200 Is that what The Young Turks is doing?
00:07:30.920 To me, this is the equivalent of Bibi downplaying the Holocaust. 0.56
00:07:34.620 So I don't know what the Pashinian is thinking, but why don't you stand on the side of your people, 0.98
00:07:39.140 not on the side of the genociders?
00:07:40.500 Folks, go get these because these products, I wore them, it feels, anybody that sees it
00:07:47.540 up front, they can't believe what it looks like.
00:07:50.480 Can I say one thing?
00:07:51.360 May I?
00:07:51.600 Go ahead.
00:07:51.820 Pat, I wash and dry.
00:07:53.720 I'm dead serious.
00:07:54.480 Nothing's, I wash and dry.
00:07:56.400 Nothing comes off.
00:07:57.700 Because the majority of these do mess up.
00:07:59.420 It's amazing.
00:07:59.720 It's magical.
00:08:00.980 For those of you in California, the ink is flame retardant. 0.99
00:08:04.300 Wildfire season.
00:08:04.900 Go to vtmerch.com.
00:08:07.940 Get your future looks bright.
00:08:09.180 By the way, Rob, can you go to the new polo?
00:08:10.880 Can you go to the polo shirts that we got?
00:08:12.840 Guys, I saw a polo shirt that just came in.
00:08:15.280 Eric Caballero was wearing it.
00:08:17.040 First of all, I could not believe how ridiculous these polos were. 1.00
00:08:21.240 Can you just go to search and type and, okay, go a little bit lower, see maybe if it's there.
00:08:25.000 Go a little bit lower, lower, lower, lower.
00:08:26.700 Oh, you're about to get there.
00:08:27.780 Keep going lower.
00:08:28.860 That one right there to the right.
00:08:29.880 Oh, snap. 0.99
00:08:30.140 Oh, my God.
00:08:31.440 And he's jacked.
00:08:32.580 By the way, zoom in.
00:08:33.440 Go back a little bit, Rob, to zoom in.
00:08:35.140 The buttons are Valuetainment logo buttons.
00:08:38.300 I got it.
00:08:39.200 And the material is red.
00:08:41.100 I should have shown you the picture of Eric Caballero wearing that shirt.
00:08:44.580 And he jacked.
00:08:45.360 Put the link to that as well.
00:08:46.680 The material of these polos are awesome.
00:08:48.640 For some of you guys that are going to work, it's hot.
00:08:50.640 You want to wear something nice.
00:08:52.080 These are high, high-end quality polo shirts that just came in as well.
00:08:56.200 Rob, if you want to put it on VT Merch.
00:08:57.560 Again, this is to all the people that we see.
00:08:58.960 The other day, one of my guys goes to, he's wearing a P-B-D podcast shirt, and he goes
00:09:05.620 out to a game.
00:09:06.320 He says, Pat, if I tell you 50 people to come and talk to me, we watch it as well.
00:09:11.960 We watch it as well.
00:09:12.700 We watch it as well.
00:09:13.620 To all the crazies out there that support what we're doing, we love you.
00:09:17.820 We appreciate you.
00:09:18.940 And we cannot wait to run into you somewhere here soon.
00:09:23.040 Who knows where that's going to be?
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