Valuetainment - Episode 470： Former Aids Scientist Calls Out Dr. Fauci for Medical Corruption

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00:00:01.880 Did you ever think you would make it?

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00:00:14.560 Valuetainment, giving values contagious.

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00:00:22.500 I'm Patrick, Bet David, host of Valuetainment.

00:00:24.100 Today I'm sitting down with Dr. Judy Mikevitz.

00:00:26.100 This is an individual that when I did the interview with her

00:00:28.380 and we uploaded it on YouTube, within one week

00:00:30.420 it got nearly a couple million views

00:00:32.020 and then it was taken down off YouTube.

00:00:33.720 So there's a lot of people that are asking me

00:00:35.120 to watch this interview or listen to this interview

00:00:37.500 and one of the suggestions I would make

00:00:38.900 as you're going through this is either watch it

00:00:41.580 all the way through, listen to it all the way through

00:00:43.960 or don't listen to it.

00:00:45.100 This isn't something to just listen to for five minutes

00:00:47.420 and then go have your own opinion to create.

00:00:49.580 This is something you need to listen to all the way through

00:00:51.300 because she gets challenged on some topics.

00:00:53.500 She brings up some issues of her having worked indirectly

00:00:55.580 with Dr. Anthony Fauci during the AIDS pandemic

00:00:58.300 and she's someone that's having a lot of her interviews

00:01:00.680 being taken down again.

00:01:02.100 My suggestion, either watch the whole thing

00:01:04.260 and listen to the whole thing

00:01:05.380 or don't listen to the whole thing at all

00:01:07.040 because some of the things she talks about

00:01:08.900 can be very, very controversial.

00:01:11.400 Enjoy this interview with Dr. Judy Mikevitz.

00:01:13.720 Thanks for being a guest on Valuetainment today.

00:01:15.720 Nice to be here, Pat.

00:01:17.360 So Dr. Judy, I'm just curious.

00:01:18.780 You know, a lot of times when, you know,

00:01:21.120 you ask somebody, why did you become a soldier?

00:01:23.480 Oh, because my dad was a general.

00:01:24.940 You know, so why did you become a real estate person?

00:01:27.600 Oh, my mom was in real estate.

00:01:29.440 What inspired you to go out there

00:01:31.820 and want to do what you've done your entire life?

00:01:34.680 Well, it's actually because when I was,

00:01:37.600 oh, maybe 10 or 12 years old,

00:01:40.560 my grandfather got lung cancer.

00:01:44.480 And so at that time, cancer was a closet disease.

00:01:47.900 Nobody said anything about it.

00:01:50.020 It was, nobody knew if it was infectious,

00:01:51.840 nobody knew anything, so it was, you know,

00:01:54.520 and so I thought, you know,

00:01:56.360 well, we should be able to understand

00:01:58.160 what causes cancer and how to treat it

00:02:01.080 like with food and with plants.

00:02:02.940 So I went to University of Virginia

00:02:04.840 and got a degree in chemistry

00:02:09.620 with a specialization in biology.

00:02:12.000 I think of the 128 hours I took between 1976 and 1980,

00:02:17.560 I took 124 hours in science, biology, science, physics, math,

00:02:25.960 and four hours of German

00:02:27.800 because it was required to get a chemistry degree.

00:02:31.840 I didn't take an English class.

00:02:34.940 I didn't take a history class.

00:02:37.420 I had placed out of all of that.

00:02:39.620 And it's interesting because you'll see

00:02:42.620 in Plague of Corruption,

00:02:43.840 it goes into a little bit more of the story,

00:02:46.140 plagues a little bit too much science for most people.

00:02:49.300 So we wrote Plague of Corruption

00:02:50.820 when we really understood what this was all about.

00:02:53.620 I had no idea in 2014 when we wrote Plague.

00:02:57.760 So, and so we tell the story,

00:02:59.800 we went right back and said,

00:03:01.400 you know, and that was my passion.

00:03:03.600 That was, it was everything.

00:03:05.060 And when I did, so I didn't get in medical school

00:03:08.900 because we didn't have any money.

00:03:11.760 And so I thought what I'll do on March 31st, 1980,

00:03:19.040 the cover of Time Magazine

00:03:20.940 was a hypodermic needle with a drop coming out.

00:03:24.800 It was the big if, interferon, the magic bullet for cancer.

00:03:29.260 The reason I remember it like it was yesterday

00:03:31.380 is it was the day before my birthday.

00:03:34.200 And the only job offers I was getting

00:03:37.140 was to go to oil companies in Texas.

00:03:40.280 And I really didn't want to do that.

00:03:42.320 So I saw that magazine and I heard first,

00:03:45.340 I didn't even know it was a cancer institute.

00:03:48.180 And so then I answered an ad in the Washington Post

00:03:52.140 because I'm from the Washington area.

00:03:53.740 My sister was living in Vienna

00:03:56.040 and I lived with my sister there that summer.

00:03:58.540 And I answered a job in the Washington Post

00:04:01.340 looking for a biochemist to purify interferon.

00:04:05.280 And I'm like, that's the job.

00:04:06.560 I'm going to go spend one or two years

00:04:08.540 learning how to cure cancer.

00:04:10.060 And then I'll go back to medical school.

00:04:11.800 And it ended up being 40 years.

00:04:14.280 So if I was in high school with you,

00:04:17.120 you're 15, 16, we're classmates.

00:04:19.920 Who were you in high school?

00:04:21.300 In high school, I was the angry kid

00:04:26.880 with a chip on my shoulder from a divorced family.

00:04:30.860 I had a high school teacher say,

00:04:34.100 I told him I was going to be a doctor

00:04:36.060 and he laughed because I didn't do well in science classes.

00:04:41.200 I did well in independent study

00:04:43.380 if a teacher would just let me go.

00:04:46.460 And I had my favorite high school teacher

00:04:48.720 was Ann Peabody.

00:04:50.620 She was my English teacher

00:04:52.060 and she let me do independent study.

00:04:55.080 And she actually, I got a scholarship

00:04:59.440 to go to University of Virginia

00:05:00.920 because of my family,

00:05:02.340 I was the only kid to go to university

00:05:04.520 out of four kids.

00:05:06.380 And in fact, Elizabeth Dole,

00:05:08.060 they lived in the area of the Congress and Senate.

00:05:12.560 So Elizabeth Dole was a friend of Ann Peabody.

00:05:15.720 And she, and they helped me get a scholarship

00:05:20.160 to University of Virginia.

00:05:21.660 Ann said, this is a kid that needs to go to college.

00:05:24.180 So I ended up there and that, you know,

00:05:27.140 it was kind of the rest was history.

00:05:29.220 So I wouldn't even,

00:05:30.840 I was such a Wahoo and a Virginian

00:05:32.880 that I didn't want to admit I was working in Maryland

00:05:35.460 and, you know, not going to do that.

00:05:37.260 Not proud.

00:05:38.120 Yeah.

00:05:38.560 Very cool.

00:05:39.760 So what's the next transition of you going from there

00:05:42.980 to being a doctor and then studying the topics

00:05:45.580 that you did?

00:05:46.460 Oh, well, when I was first doing,

00:05:48.840 so we purified interferon.

00:05:50.400 That was fun.

00:05:51.160 Put it into people.

00:05:52.700 And at that time,

00:05:53.980 the first human cancer causing retrovirus,

00:05:57.060 a virus like HIV AIDS,

00:05:58.860 it's just a family of RNA viruses,

00:06:01.440 like a coronavirus.

00:06:02.380 Who cares what they name them?

00:06:03.480 The first cancer causing retrovirus family

00:06:07.300 was identified by who ended up being

00:06:09.720 my lifelong mentor and colleague,

00:06:11.820 Dr. Frank Rossetti.

00:06:13.300 So I was told in the job,

00:06:15.660 my next job after interferon

00:06:17.620 was to purify that retrovirus

00:06:20.480 using an open air piece of equipment

00:06:23.660 that could have aerosolized it,

00:06:25.780 could have spread it through the air.

00:06:27.200 And we didn't know anything about the transmission.

00:06:29.740 You know, we're 22, 23 years old.

00:06:32.200 Many of the technicians were newly married

00:06:35.720 and some even pregnant.

00:06:37.020 And so my boss, a young man of 30,

00:06:40.900 and I, we were just, you know,

00:06:43.240 and we said, we wrote a letter

00:06:45.540 and we said, there's no safety here.

00:06:47.240 There's no safety in place.

00:06:49.020 This is really unethical.

00:06:51.460 And they said, you make it.

00:06:53.720 And this was Bob Gallo's lab, Robert Gallo,

00:06:56.400 who was also in the National Cancer Institute.

00:07:00.000 And-

00:07:00.740 Was Bob Gallo the one that was working

00:07:02.180 under Dr. Fauci at that time or no?

00:07:04.480 Was he working with Anthony Fauci?

00:07:05.240 He was working with him.

00:07:06.800 He was working with him.

00:07:08.100 They were in different divisions.

00:07:09.320 But again, Frank Resetti was a postdoctoral fellow

00:07:13.860 who made the discoveries in Bob Gallo's lab.

00:07:17.740 And Bob Gallo fired him

00:07:19.460 because he was getting too much credit.

00:07:21.600 Just gonna let you go

00:07:22.820 to this old boys corrupt network.

00:07:25.420 This is the, you know,

00:07:27.040 this is, I was only the second class of women

00:07:29.500 at the University of the Arts and Sciences,

00:07:32.640 something other than nursing or education.

00:07:36.040 And the first class was one that Katie Couric was in,

00:07:39.700 in 1975.

00:07:41.140 So still, you know, so interesting.

00:07:43.320 But at any rate, this is, you know,

00:07:45.480 the old boys network is alive and well,

00:07:48.900 especially in the sciences.

00:07:51.060 So we purified the stuff.

00:07:54.480 We made the virus.

00:07:55.300 We did the work.

00:07:56.200 We made sure that pregnant women,

00:07:57.800 we just put them on other projects.

00:07:59.120 And Mark and I did it by ourselves,

00:08:01.120 sleeping there almost around the clock

00:08:03.260 because he had a new baby at home.

00:08:05.320 So we didn't want to risk anybody getting infected.

00:08:08.360 And so this, and as soon as we finished the project,

00:08:12.200 I got a letter from the government

00:08:14.780 saying my job had been eliminated

00:08:16.720 and they didn't need a protein chemist

00:08:19.120 in the fermentation program.

00:08:21.120 And I was the only one.

00:08:22.640 So I was, I went to listen to a seminar that day

00:08:26.140 thinking, boy, what's my family going to think?

00:08:28.720 I don't get into med school.

00:08:30.460 Now I've lost this job and losing this job.

00:08:32.620 I'll never get into medical school.

00:08:34.860 And here I am, you know,

00:08:37.080 I'm done as far as a scientist goes.

00:08:39.620 And so I just, I go to a seminar

00:08:41.160 and I hear about these things called cytokines.

00:08:44.360 And Joe Oppenheim, actually a survivor,

00:08:48.760 he's Dutch, Jost, J-O-O-S-T,

00:08:51.340 fabulous man, discovered, you know,

00:08:53.280 aisle one, aisle eight in his lab,

00:08:54.960 was leading this program

00:08:57.020 in the Biological Response Modifiers program.

00:09:00.220 And I rarely do this.

00:09:01.480 I, after he gave a seminar, I said,

00:09:03.060 you know, those things just might be able to cure cancer.

00:09:06.380 And he didn't laugh.

00:09:07.620 He just said, kid, hey, it's after lunch

00:09:09.640 and the seminar, why don't you come,

00:09:10.920 let's have a talk.

00:09:11.900 And he said, I know this guy,

00:09:13.280 Frank Cresetti, who needs a technician.

00:09:15.300 I think you might just, you know,

00:09:17.080 and so that started a very interesting

00:09:21.180 and lifelong companionship

00:09:23.640 that really goes to my first interaction

00:09:27.420 with Tony Fauci, which wasn't a good one.

00:09:31.540 Your first interaction with Tony Fauci

00:09:33.160 wasn't a good one.

00:09:33.880 Now, this is, is this post you working on the,

00:09:37.000 on AIDS and HIV or is this pre?

00:09:39.120 Pre.

00:09:39.800 This is pre.

00:09:40.860 So what was your, what, what, what,

00:09:42.620 I know when you're working with Frank,

00:09:44.680 you've been working with Dr. Frank for July.

00:09:46.960 You said July, June 6th is going to be 37 years, right?

00:09:50.760 That's a long time, obviously.

00:09:52.000 So it's somebody you trust,

00:09:52.940 somebody that's a colleague that you trust

00:09:54.540 to be able to be in business with them for 37 years.

00:09:57.320 So walk us through what happened,

00:10:00.620 what events led to your interaction,

00:10:03.180 the phone call you got from Dr. Anthony Fauci.

00:10:07.040 So I'm Frank's technician starting June 6th, 1983.

00:10:11.080 And the project he gave me,

00:10:12.660 he gave me a couple of choices.

00:10:13.880 And I chose the one because we were looking

00:10:16.900 at otherwise healthy men,

00:10:19.140 beautiful healthy men who were getting

00:10:21.400 opportunistic infections.

00:10:23.380 That one of them was Kaposi sarcoma.

00:10:25.480 That's a cancer, a kind, that ugly cancer,

00:10:28.400 that blood type things on you,

00:10:30.040 that usually only old men in the Southern tip of Italy get.

00:10:34.440 And so it's like, why is it at UCLA?

00:10:36.720 And so we were starting to see around the world

00:10:39.200 pockets of disease that made no sense.

00:10:41.720 Different TB, a thrush, different kind of infections

00:10:45.680 that we call opportunistic infections.

00:10:47.980 Now, we didn't at the time.

00:10:50.200 So everybody was looking.

00:10:52.000 And because Frank had already discovered the first retrovirus,

00:10:55.920 understanding what he understood about how they work,

00:10:59.460 we thought this could be a retrovirus.

00:11:01.560 And then Luke Montagnier, Nobel laureate,

00:11:04.840 called Frank one day and said,

00:11:06.980 hey, we're going to send, you know,

00:11:09.840 people and have you to Bob Gallo's lab

00:11:13.080 and our postdoc and have him isolate,

00:11:17.300 help teach us how to isolate the virus.

00:11:19.620 And Frank told him, I wouldn't do that.

00:11:21.940 And he told him exactly why.

00:11:23.560 And history did repeat itself,

00:11:24.960 but we won't go there right now.

00:11:26.260 So we go ahead and we said, we'll help you.

00:11:30.080 We'll teach you.

00:11:31.320 And it was just the two of us.

00:11:33.760 Frank wasn't allowed to have more than one technician

00:11:36.260 for quite a number of years,

00:11:37.780 because again, he was getting too much credit.

00:11:40.660 So we isolated the virus from the saliva and the blood

00:11:45.240 of, you know, one of the patients,

00:11:48.100 the original patients from the French Canadian

00:11:50.640 who really need to go back to the original patients

00:11:53.360 in cohorts, because there can be strain differences

00:11:56.320 and it'll look different.

00:11:57.480 So you really want that sick person.

00:11:59.600 If they're not sick, you're not likely

00:12:01.320 to isolate the virus or find it there.

00:12:03.440 And that's really critical.

00:12:05.160 When you think about, I mentioned

00:12:06.740 that we isolated it from saliva.

00:12:08.600 So would that mean that HIV is contagious in that way,

00:12:12.300 where if you share water or wine or meals

00:12:15.620 or get it on the food, you can actually become infected.

00:12:18.920 And that didn't turn out to be true

00:12:20.580 unless you were with the sickest of patients.

00:12:23.360 So yes, we isolated them there,

00:12:25.320 but you wouldn't consider that virus contagious.

00:12:28.080 Anyway, we isolated it and we had a paper in press.

00:12:31.380 I'm a technician.

00:12:32.900 Technicians don't co-author papers.

00:12:35.600 Not in that time.

00:12:37.120 They do now, but they didn't then.

00:12:39.380 So Frank was out of town at a meeting.

00:12:42.020 I'm a technician.

00:12:43.540 We have one office and one lab.

00:12:45.120 So I answer the phone and it's Bob Gallo.

00:12:48.060 I mean, and Tony Fauci.

00:12:49.440 I think Tony Fauci was on the phone

00:12:51.320 and the office door is open

00:12:53.080 so that the rest of the students and techs can hear me.

00:12:56.220 And I answered the phone and he said,

00:13:00.100 you know, I understand you have a manuscript in press.

00:13:03.940 We need a copy of it.

00:13:06.320 And Dr. Resetti, I said, Dr. Resetti's out of town.

00:13:09.720 I'm sorry.

00:13:10.620 It's confidential.

00:13:11.660 It's in press.

00:13:12.660 It's unethical for me to give that to you.

00:13:15.660 And he started literally screaming at me.

00:13:18.440 Both of them were on the call.

00:13:19.680 I could hear Bob Gallo's voice that I now know.

00:13:23.220 And they're in Bethesda.

00:13:24.740 We're in Frederick.

00:13:26.620 And he's like, give me the paper

00:13:29.840 or you're fired for insubordination.

00:13:33.900 Well, I just got fired a minute ago,

00:13:35.900 so I'm pretty good at that.

00:13:37.260 I was like, it's not a problem right now

00:13:39.340 because I'm starting to understand

00:13:41.060 how the government works.

00:13:43.340 And I just said, I'm sorry.

00:13:47.460 It's unethical and I can't give it to you.

00:13:49.520 I'm sure when Dr. Resetti comes back,

00:13:51.680 he'll give you a copy of the paper.

00:13:53.920 But this was a problem, you see,

00:13:55.980 because Bob Gallo couldn't isolate the virus.

00:13:59.020 So when Frank came back,

00:14:01.000 he bullied him into giving him a copy of the paper.

00:14:03.380 They held up our paper in press,

00:14:06.840 Frank's paper in press,

00:14:10.040 while Bob Gallo copied the results

00:14:12.420 and came out with his own paper and said,

00:14:14.660 hey, we discovered it first

00:14:16.700 and it's not your virus.

00:14:18.160 We got it from other samples,

00:14:19.520 not the ones that you sent.

00:14:21.520 So we've got a new virus.

00:14:23.180 And history really repeats itself

00:14:24.940 because it's so clear in the,

00:14:27.640 you know, 30 years later,

00:14:29.360 literally exactly what happened to Frank Resetti

00:14:32.000 happened to me as our careers were ruined

00:14:34.400 and, you know, similarly.

00:14:35.640 So, and that's part of the story

00:14:37.920 in Plague of Corruption.

00:14:39.100 So once we learned in 2014

00:14:41.660 what this story was all about,

00:14:43.920 then we wrote the simple book.

00:14:46.200 Plague of Corruption is what I now understand.

00:14:49.920 It had nothing to do with science

00:14:52.620 and everything to do with covering up

00:14:55.600 inconvenient truths.

00:14:57.520 And now I learn, I know so much more.

00:15:00.000 I learn more every day.

00:15:01.460 So this book started in literally in 2014

00:15:06.420 when I first saw Brian Hooker give a talk.

00:15:10.340 And what Brian Hooker gave a talk,

00:15:12.100 August 31st, 2014.

00:15:16.140 And he showed a page of the notebook

00:15:18.020 of William Thompson,

00:15:19.660 the guy who confessed that he covered up

00:15:22.200 for 20 years and committed fraud

00:15:24.900 in a scientific paper

00:15:26.180 that vaccines, MMR,

00:15:28.600 can and does cause autism

00:15:30.480 in susceptible little black boys

00:15:32.960 under the age of three.

00:15:34.900 The four-fold risk

00:15:36.880 if little black boys

00:15:38.120 are given that vaccine

00:15:39.820 before the age of three.

00:15:41.920 And his notebook page

00:15:44.220 had a taped-in email

00:15:46.060 to everyone on the project,

00:15:48.540 which the authors of the paper,

00:15:49.880 which you have to do,

00:15:50.880 and it said in his handwriting,

00:15:52.240 what are we going to do

00:15:53.720 about the problem

00:15:54.680 with the blacks?

00:15:56.380 Who said this again?

00:15:58.100 Dr. Thompson.

00:16:00.360 And Dr. Hooker

00:16:01.860 dogged him for 15 years

00:16:04.480 who had an injured son

00:16:06.400 and dogged him for 15 years

00:16:09.020 with FOIA,

00:16:09.760 Freedom of Information Act request.

00:16:12.400 So the light bulb

00:16:13.980 went on that day

00:16:14.840 after we wrote

00:16:16.340 that incredibly scientific book,

00:16:18.540 Plague,

00:16:19.060 and I thought it was about science.

00:16:20.860 So just like I was explaining

00:16:22.220 a few minutes ago,

00:16:23.060 I thought this was all about science.

00:16:24.940 And the big,

00:16:25.540 oh my God,

00:16:26.900 is this has nothing to do with science.

00:16:29.120 This is a big cover-up

00:16:30.840 and some of our work

00:16:33.740 had shown the same thing.

00:16:35.680 Can we go back

00:16:36.480 to your experience

00:16:37.800 with Dr. Anthony Fauci?

00:16:39.600 At that time,

00:16:40.340 he's 79 years old right now,

00:16:42.080 so 1984,

00:16:44.340 we're talking about 30...

00:16:46.740 45, yeah.

00:16:48.000 He was 45.

00:16:48.280 Was he already a credible voice?

00:16:51.360 Was he somebody

00:16:52.220 that was as,

00:16:53.880 you know,

00:16:54.400 was he as known?

00:16:55.500 Was he as powerful

00:16:56.320 or not yet?

00:16:58.480 Not yet,

00:16:59.460 but he was a credible voice,

00:17:01.080 but he didn't take...

00:17:02.280 I don't think he got the job

00:17:03.700 as the head

00:17:04.280 of the National Institute

00:17:05.480 of Allergy

00:17:06.140 and Infectious Disease

00:17:07.300 until,

00:17:08.800 you know,

00:17:09.680 the paper with HIV

00:17:11.820 because that's one of the things

00:17:13.660 he said was,

00:17:15.120 you know,

00:17:15.520 I want to be on

00:17:16.280 The Tonight Show.

00:17:17.600 You know,

00:17:17.940 they didn't care about

00:17:18.980 millions of people dying.

00:17:20.580 It's like,

00:17:21.040 how are they going to

00:17:21.860 position themselves?

00:17:23.480 And this was,

00:17:24.260 it was horrible to watch...

00:17:25.740 He said this?

00:17:27.100 Yeah.

00:17:28.260 So,

00:17:29.180 Cliff Lane,

00:17:30.240 Bob Gallo,

00:17:31.260 and Tony Fauci

00:17:32.520 all had their reasons

00:17:34.060 for,

00:17:34.820 you know,

00:17:35.880 publishing second

00:17:36.880 this paper

00:17:37.660 for,

00:17:38.400 you know,

00:17:39.000 taking the credit

00:17:40.600 away from

00:17:41.480 Luc Montagnier

00:17:42.340 and the French

00:17:43.060 and making this

00:17:44.160 all of their own.

00:17:45.380 They held up

00:17:46.060 and they did that.

00:17:47.460 They held up the paper

00:17:48.740 so it wouldn't get published

00:17:49.920 for months.

00:17:50.800 They held up

00:17:51.540 a diagnostic test.

00:17:53.320 They wrote the patents

00:17:54.480 to themselves

00:17:55.440 for the discoveries

00:17:56.840 which weren't theirs.

00:17:59.640 And they,

00:18:00.520 I mean,

00:18:00.840 you can see many,

00:18:01.840 many things about this

00:18:03.060 in books like

00:18:04.780 science fictions

00:18:06.120 and things like that.

00:18:07.140 You can see

00:18:07.800 through Charles Ortlieb's

00:18:09.880 new book

00:18:10.520 on Tony Fauci

00:18:11.960 but Charles was

00:18:12.880 an advocate

00:18:13.520 in New York

00:18:14.440 and he was writing

00:18:16.240 about both

00:18:16.860 chronic fatigue syndrome

00:18:17.980 and HIV

00:18:19.800 and AIDS

00:18:20.740 when we didn't

00:18:21.540 know much about it

00:18:22.420 and they were

00:18:23.060 accusing the government

00:18:24.120 of keeping the drugs,

00:18:25.480 keeping the things

00:18:26.260 away from people

00:18:27.180 and they were,

00:18:28.000 of course,

00:18:28.200 right.

00:18:28.800 So,

00:18:29.120 he basically

00:18:31.020 changed,

00:18:31.860 you know,

00:18:32.500 let this disease

00:18:33.520 spread around the world

00:18:34.560 so that he could get

00:18:35.500 glory,

00:18:36.160 fame,

00:18:36.420 and money.

00:18:37.260 So,

00:18:37.420 at this point,

00:18:39.040 HIV,

00:18:41.100 AIDS,

00:18:41.900 the number I read

00:18:42.760 about right now

00:18:43.220 is 32 million people

00:18:44.640 have died from it

00:18:45.340 and 40 million

00:18:46.060 people in Africa

00:18:47.480 have HIV positive

00:18:48.880 or HIV positive today.

00:18:50.160 This is some data

00:18:50.840 I'm seeing based

00:18:51.320 on what I'm reading.

00:18:52.760 So,

00:18:53.200 just to go back

00:18:54.260 during that time,

00:18:55.740 a 40-year-old

00:18:56.980 may not remember

00:18:57.760 and even a 50-year-old

00:18:59.120 may not remember,

00:19:00.160 you know,

00:19:00.440 if you go back to it.

00:19:01.400 So,

00:19:01.560 you would have to be

00:19:02.200 in your mid-50s

00:19:03.080 to kind of remember

00:19:03.820 how the news,

00:19:04.540 the media,

00:19:04.840 and you have to follow

00:19:05.440 it to kind of know

00:19:05.960 what happened.

00:19:06.900 When HIV happened,

00:19:08.160 if you can kind of

00:19:08.940 tell us the conditions

00:19:09.900 when it happened,

00:19:10.940 what was the news saying?

00:19:12.200 What was the media saying?

00:19:13.860 How afraid were people?

00:19:15.260 What kind of reactions

00:19:16.180 did we have?

00:19:16.680 Just think about

00:19:17.200 the average person

00:19:17.900 that wasn't there

00:19:18.600 at that time.

00:19:19.740 Was there a pandemic?

00:19:21.260 Was it a shutdown?

00:19:22.400 Did they shut down

00:19:23.060 the government?

00:19:23.800 What happened?

00:19:24.660 Give us that point of view

00:19:25.780 during that time.

00:19:26.500 You're in it.

00:19:27.460 Yeah,

00:19:27.780 I'm in it.

00:19:28.420 In fact,

00:19:28.880 it's directly related to me

00:19:30.660 because Frank said to me,

00:19:32.840 you know,

00:19:33.140 Judy,

00:19:33.500 are you afraid?

00:19:34.940 You know,

00:19:35.140 I don't want to put you,

00:19:36.060 we don't know anything

00:19:36.920 about this.

00:19:37.620 We're isolating the virus.

00:19:38.960 So all we know

00:19:40.180 is healthy young men

00:19:41.580 are getting all these

00:19:42.660 strange diseases

00:19:43.560 and dying.

00:19:45.340 They're cachectic.

00:19:47.580 They're thin.

00:19:48.300 They look like cancer patients.

00:19:50.340 Their immune systems

00:19:51.360 are destroyed.

00:19:53.060 And then you're going

00:19:54.380 to try to isolate a virus.

00:19:56.220 I'm literally handling them.

00:19:58.020 And what do they do to them?

00:19:59.240 Don't touch them.

00:20:00.520 It was just like my grandfather.

00:20:02.400 Don't tell him he has cancer

00:20:03.760 because we don't know

00:20:04.560 how it causes.

00:20:05.580 Don't touch them.

00:20:06.480 Don't hug them.

00:20:07.340 Think about everything

00:20:08.180 we're talking about today.

00:20:09.720 Stay six feet away.

00:20:11.460 The psychological trauma

00:20:13.380 to the patients.

00:20:15.100 You know,

00:20:15.360 don't hug them.

00:20:16.280 Don't touch them.

00:20:17.360 At the time,

00:20:18.200 I left the cancer.

00:20:19.480 Well,

00:20:19.880 it was that kind of thing.

00:20:21.680 But it was only them.

00:20:23.000 And they said,

00:20:23.560 it's only them.

00:20:24.440 It's their bad behavior.

00:20:26.960 It's their,

00:20:27.640 it's the gays.

00:20:28.760 It's the IV drug users.

00:20:30.420 It's prostitutes.

00:20:31.320 That's God's punishment

00:20:34.380 for their behavior.

00:20:36.580 So a country of Christians,

00:20:39.060 you know,

00:20:40.160 said,

00:20:41.100 oh,

00:20:41.280 bad people.

00:20:42.500 And I,

00:20:42.720 and I remember so clearly

00:20:44.360 going to scientific meetings

00:20:45.920 and I fell prey to the,

00:20:47.420 to the culture myself.

00:20:49.040 And I can say 30 years later,

00:20:51.580 I'm ashamed of myself.

00:20:52.960 But that I went to meetings

00:20:55.140 where there were protesters

00:20:56.540 that blocked the scientists

00:20:58.340 from going into the meeting.

00:20:59.980 and they're saying

00:21:01.500 scientists are murderers

00:21:03.100 or what the science says.

00:21:04.440 And,

00:21:04.580 and I thought to myself,

00:21:06.060 I'm working 24 seven

00:21:08.220 to find a cure

00:21:09.560 for your bad behavior.

00:21:11.760 And,

00:21:12.400 and,

00:21:12.840 and,

00:21:13.160 and you're throwing,

00:21:15.020 they,

00:21:15.280 they used to throw balloons

00:21:16.860 full of red fluid

00:21:18.520 that were condoms

00:21:20.100 full of red fluids

00:21:21.380 at you

00:21:22.000 at a baseball stadium

00:21:23.360 in a meeting in Montreal.

00:21:24.560 This was maybe 1990.

00:21:26.720 So,

00:21:27.220 so I went to these meetings

00:21:28.800 as scientists

00:21:29.700 and,

00:21:30.440 and I didn't realize

00:21:31.620 we had all kinds of posters

00:21:33.120 of treatments

00:21:33.800 that would work

00:21:34.680 and we weren't the government

00:21:36.120 keeping them

00:21:36.840 from getting these treatments.

00:21:38.080 We were,

00:21:39.120 you know,

00:21:39.480 we were just scientists

00:21:40.740 doing our job.

00:21:41.840 And I think it really shows

00:21:43.600 what's going on now

00:21:45.440 as the media spins something

00:21:47.740 and now we have

00:21:48.880 healthy people

00:21:49.880 afraid of healthy people,

00:21:51.620 especially healthy children.

00:21:53.360 You know,

00:21:53.540 we're all wearing masks

00:21:54.660 and have to stay six feet away

00:21:56.400 and the masks

00:21:57.360 are injuring ourselves.

00:21:59.000 So this was the culture

00:22:00.520 in the,

00:22:01.320 in literally

00:22:02.200 from 1980s through

00:22:04.340 and I didn't want a PhD.

00:22:06.440 I actually left

00:22:07.420 the Cancer Institute.

00:22:08.740 I wasn't going to go back

00:22:09.920 to graduate school

00:22:11.020 and the stories

00:22:12.120 are all told

00:22:12.820 in Plague of Corruption

00:22:13.800 because we walked

00:22:14.780 through my,

00:22:15.340 my life

00:22:16.260 and,

00:22:16.920 and I went to work

00:22:18.540 at a pharmaceutical company

00:22:19.780 up,

00:22:20.120 John,

00:22:20.440 and we were making

00:22:21.260 some good drugs

00:22:22.020 and doing some things

00:22:22.960 but we had to understand

00:22:25.160 if the biological therapies

00:22:27.240 would be contaminated

00:22:28.660 if they had animal

00:22:30.040 or human blood in them.

00:22:31.780 And I,

00:22:32.140 and I simply did the test

00:22:33.760 to spike it

00:22:34.660 with a lot of HIV

00:22:35.860 and then ask if the,

00:22:37.940 if the process,

00:22:39.100 the manufacturing process

00:22:40.660 could remove

00:22:41.980 six logs

00:22:43.360 of infectivity.

00:22:44.480 That is,

00:22:45.000 if the virus was there,

00:22:46.160 if even one contaminated

00:22:47.460 unit of blood

00:22:48.500 or whatever we were using,

00:22:49.860 animal tissue,

00:22:50.700 had a virus there,

00:22:51.820 we could pull it out

00:22:52.900 with the process.

00:22:54.060 And,

00:22:54.180 and what Upjohn did with me

00:22:56.160 is I had to do

00:22:57.280 those experiments

00:22:58.240 back in Frank's lab

00:22:59.860 in,

00:23:00.200 in the National Cancer Institute

00:23:01.960 because they said

00:23:02.800 we don't have HIV

00:23:03.920 in Michigan.

00:23:05.420 So for years

00:23:06.840 in 1987,

00:23:08.060 remember I isolated

00:23:09.480 in 1983.

00:23:11.020 So for years,

00:23:12.660 there's no HIV.

00:23:13.940 It's only those people

00:23:15.400 until Arthur Ashe

00:23:16.840 and Ryan White,

00:23:18.280 until the little boy,

00:23:19.400 the hemophiliac

00:23:20.260 multiply transfused

00:23:21.500 until Arthur Ashe

00:23:22.780 got a heart transplant

00:23:23.820 and acquired.

00:23:25.240 And this is the subject

00:23:26.360 of the movie

00:23:27.220 and the book,

00:23:28.860 The Band Played On

00:23:29.940 by Randy Schiltz.

00:23:31.840 And,

00:23:31.900 and so,

00:23:32.780 you know,

00:23:33.300 and that's how I wrote

00:23:34.920 this book,

00:23:35.580 how we wrote these two books

00:23:36.900 was to go through

00:23:37.900 what we knew.

00:23:38.900 So the fact that,

00:23:40.560 you know,

00:23:40.840 this is what I call

00:23:41.980 the God thing,

00:23:43.260 that Frank and Versetti

00:23:44.240 and I stayed together

00:23:45.320 all these years.

00:23:46.160 I left up John

00:23:47.740 because my other project

00:23:49.920 was to show that,

00:23:51.280 my other project

00:23:53.080 was to show

00:23:53.680 that bovine growth hormone,

00:23:56.020 that is making GMOs,

00:23:58.020 making cows make more milk

00:24:00.620 by engineering the GMO,

00:24:03.000 bovine growth hormone,

00:24:04.000 they call it,

00:24:04.380 some called it somatostat,

00:24:05.760 to make more milk

00:24:06.760 wouldn't hurt human cells.

00:24:09.020 And my work said

00:24:10.280 anything but.

00:24:11.320 My work said

00:24:12.020 it absolutely hurt human cells.

00:24:14.060 It can drive diabetes,

00:24:15.740 it can drive adipocytes

00:24:17.040 to the,

00:24:17.620 to the explosion

00:24:18.640 of obesity we see.

00:24:20.700 And,

00:24:21.080 and,

00:24:21.320 and of course,

00:24:22.560 you know,

00:24:22.900 GMOs do that.

00:24:24.560 And,

00:24:24.660 and so,

00:24:26.160 I was told that day

00:24:27.820 that my,

00:24:28.540 I was,

00:24:29.600 I showed the data

00:24:30.760 and I said,

00:24:31.240 no,

00:24:31.440 those aren't the data.

00:24:32.240 They do hurt human cells.

00:24:33.840 And,

00:24:34.280 and my boss said,

00:24:35.220 you're morally,

00:24:36.080 ethically,

00:24:37.160 and legally responsible

00:24:38.340 to do exactly

00:24:39.460 as I told you.

00:24:40.880 And I had a boyfriend

00:24:42.020 up there

00:24:42.560 that was a Frisbee champion

00:24:43.860 so I took the notebook

00:24:45.220 like a Frisbee

00:24:46.180 and up the bulletin board

00:24:47.800 dropped behind him

00:24:48.960 and the personnel manager

00:24:51.340 couldn't hide his laugh

00:24:53.020 because he liked me

00:24:53.660 and played on a soccer team.

00:24:55.420 So,

00:24:56.120 that was a dog.

00:24:58.600 I could run all day.

00:24:59.980 So,

00:25:00.200 so,

00:25:00.400 so,

00:25:01.160 in essence,

00:25:01.840 I mean,

00:25:02.120 when I'm reading,

00:25:02.900 you know,

00:25:03.240 the fact when they say

00:25:04.040 you save millions

00:25:04.820 of people's lives,

00:25:05.760 so you,

00:25:06.780 you guys essentially

00:25:08.260 came up with a way

00:25:09.680 to save people,

00:25:11.140 prevent them

00:25:11.760 so the average person

00:25:12.800 understands

00:25:13.440 from getting AIDS.

00:25:15.460 That's what you ended up doing.

00:25:17.020 Correct.

00:25:17.420 By showing the exact

00:25:18.820 immune response.

00:25:20.600 So,

00:25:20.780 the T cells,

00:25:21.660 only one in 10,000.

00:25:23.160 So,

00:25:23.600 the,

00:25:23.780 the personnel director

00:25:25.060 said,

00:25:25.400 Judy,

00:25:25.620 you can't throw things

00:25:26.420 at your boss.

00:25:27.260 And I said,

00:25:27.960 that's okay.

00:25:28.420 I got to go back home.

00:25:29.580 My stepfather

00:25:30.300 has aggressive prostate cancer.

00:25:32.100 So,

00:25:32.400 I,

00:25:32.780 I called Frank

00:25:33.680 and I said,

00:25:34.160 okay,

00:25:34.620 we agreed never

00:25:35.680 to say the G word

00:25:36.680 in our lab.

00:25:37.460 He did,

00:25:37.780 I didn't say Gallo

00:25:38.740 and he didn't say

00:25:39.380 graduate school.

00:25:40.280 And,

00:25:41.080 and so I said,

00:25:42.000 I have to go

00:25:42.720 because his,

00:25:43.880 my,

00:25:44.140 he,

00:25:44.440 my stepfather

00:25:45.360 lost his first wife

00:25:47.060 to cancer

00:25:48.180 and his five children

00:25:49.360 wouldn't survive

00:25:50.180 if they thought

00:25:50.820 their father had cancer.

00:25:52.040 So,

00:25:52.760 I said,

00:25:53.380 I got to do something.

00:25:54.580 It's,

00:25:54.920 it's time to go

00:25:55.600 to graduate school.

00:25:56.440 So,

00:25:56.920 I went on the hypothesis

00:25:58.680 at the time

00:25:59.640 in 1987,

00:26:01.680 it was the T cell

00:26:02.900 that was getting infected

00:26:04.520 that in the immune system.

00:26:05.660 Doesn't matter,

00:26:06.320 they're two,

00:26:06.800 let's just say,

00:26:07.880 you know,

00:26:08.140 the innate

00:26:08.580 in the adaptors

00:26:09.320 of the T cells,

00:26:10.160 we knew they were all dying.

00:26:11.720 Why were they dying?

00:26:12.860 You know,

00:26:13.240 only one in 10,000

00:26:14.400 was infected.

00:26:15.500 Somebody else

00:26:15.980 had to be the shooter.

00:26:17.120 Who's shooting the T cells?

00:26:18.700 What is happening?

00:26:20.060 It's,

00:26:20.260 it's indirect.

00:26:21.180 We call it damage

00:26:22.020 from a distance.

00:26:22.880 So,

00:26:23.360 and,

00:26:23.560 and we propose

00:26:24.660 the hypothesis

00:26:25.780 that turned out

00:26:26.780 to be my award-winning thesis

00:26:28.720 because it said

00:26:29.840 the macrophage,

00:26:31.300 which is the innate

00:26:32.100 immunophrons,

00:26:32.820 it's your troops.

00:26:33.920 They surveil all

00:26:34.780 your mucosal surfaces.

00:26:36.360 They go in your skin,

00:26:37.860 they,

00:26:38.000 in your blood,

00:26:38.840 in your brain,

00:26:39.440 every,

00:26:40.020 every body system

00:26:41.480 has,

00:26:42.200 has their troops

00:26:43.100 ready to go

00:26:43.820 and they sense everything

00:26:45.120 and they,

00:26:45.560 and they act like

00:26:46.160 little Pac-Man

00:26:46.820 and they gobble them

00:26:47.660 right up.

00:26:48.300 Anything that comes in,

00:26:49.600 you know,

00:26:50.000 not just viruses,

00:26:51.300 but microbes,

00:26:52.460 toxins,

00:26:53.580 environmental toxins,

00:26:54.740 that's that part

00:26:55.980 of your immune system.

00:26:57.100 So that was the shooter.

00:26:58.520 And so I showed how

00:26:59.740 the virus was like

00:27:01.180 a Trojan horse

00:27:02.140 and it hid

00:27:03.020 in the macrophage

00:27:04.400 and certain environmental

00:27:06.040 toxins would wake it up.

00:27:08.220 It was asleep.

00:27:09.300 Wake it up

00:27:09.960 and then it,

00:27:10.640 and then it infected

00:27:11.480 more and more of the cells

00:27:12.620 and crippled the other

00:27:13.680 immune system.

00:27:14.580 So my thesis

00:27:15.340 basically said

00:27:16.600 you got to treat them

00:27:17.660 as soon as you know

00:27:18.540 there's any evidence

00:27:19.380 of infection

00:27:20.000 and prevent

00:27:20.800 disease development.

00:27:22.320 And that's what we did.

00:27:23.680 So Magic Johnson

00:27:24.580 was the first

00:27:25.560 to do that treatment

00:27:27.480 and it took

00:27:28.040 quite a heroic thing.

00:27:29.240 So my PhD thesis

00:27:30.940 was defended

00:27:31.680 on November 14th, 1991.

00:27:36.000 Magic Johnson

00:27:36.760 was in the newspaper

00:27:38.840 November 7th

00:27:40.040 in the USA Today

00:27:41.440 and it basically said,

00:27:44.760 you know,

00:27:45.180 and has having

00:27:46.060 come up

00:27:47.220 seropositive,

00:27:48.420 meaning he had

00:27:49.140 an antibody to HIV.

00:27:50.880 Nobody looked

00:27:51.420 at the sequences,

00:27:52.340 nobody looked at it,

00:27:53.280 whatever.

00:27:53.780 He's infected

00:27:54.520 because he's got

00:27:55.420 an antibody.

00:27:56.220 He's been exposed.

00:27:57.500 And so they said

00:27:59.360 based on your thesis

00:28:00.480 at the molecular level,

00:28:02.380 will he or will he

00:28:03.020 not die of AIDS?

00:28:04.020 And I said,

00:28:04.540 if he changes everything

00:28:06.340 in how he's treated,

00:28:08.100 then you can see.

00:28:09.300 And he was on the cover

00:28:10.260 of Time Magazine.

00:28:10.980 Again,

00:28:11.400 we're going to just

00:28:11.960 follow Time Magazine,

00:28:13.340 1991.

00:28:14.700 So nobody wanted,

00:28:15.800 it was one thing

00:28:16.780 when the deplorables

00:28:18.180 were all,

00:28:18.660 I shouldn't use that word,

00:28:20.020 when, you know,

00:28:20.680 when the susceptible,

00:28:22.460 it was your bad behavior,

00:28:24.360 you know,

00:28:24.700 but this is Magic Johnson.

00:28:26.680 You know,

00:28:26.940 this is,

00:28:27.620 you know,

00:28:27.860 he's strong as an ox

00:28:29.020 when everybody can get it.

00:28:31.320 That's fearful.

00:28:32.580 You know,

00:28:32.880 he's not gay.

00:28:34.820 You know,

00:28:35.600 it's not,

00:28:37.440 you know,

00:28:37.800 he's not an IV drug user.

00:28:39.300 He's a basketball player

00:28:40.620 where in a routine test,

00:28:42.500 he has to get tested

00:28:45.120 for HIV.

00:28:46.600 And we still do that

00:28:47.820 to this day.

00:28:49.580 And they have to get

00:28:51.340 certain vaccines,

00:28:52.340 sports players,

00:28:53.380 which again,

00:28:54.380 drive pandemic.

00:28:55.180 So at any rate,

00:28:57.320 so this is,

00:28:58.540 you know,

00:28:59.860 this is,

00:29:00.340 so I defended my thesis.

00:29:02.200 David Ho is the medical doctor

00:29:04.240 in New York City.

00:29:05.780 He was on the cover

00:29:07.000 of Time Magazine somewhere.

00:29:08.720 I think he was even

00:29:09.540 man of the year

00:29:10.560 that year

00:29:11.480 for,

00:29:12.140 for just taking the treatment.

00:29:14.200 You know,

00:29:14.440 I have a PhD thesis.

00:29:15.800 That's not a published document.

00:29:17.900 We had two or three papers

00:29:19.360 where the,

00:29:20.040 where the,

00:29:20.920 the old boys corrupt network said,

00:29:24.300 oh,

00:29:24.500 you're an idiot.

00:29:25.440 Your samples are contaminated.

00:29:27.260 We're,

00:29:27.520 we're used to this.

00:29:29.240 And,

00:29:29.800 and of course,

00:29:30.580 my thesis committee saw otherwise

00:29:32.660 when they heard

00:29:33.660 the molecular description.

00:29:35.740 And,

00:29:36.320 and when my papers

00:29:37.400 would go into press

00:29:38.360 before my PhD thesis,

00:29:40.320 we'd sit,

00:29:40.740 they'd say,

00:29:41.300 I didn't believe

00:29:41.980 your last paper either.

00:29:43.320 I mean,

00:29:43.620 that's peer review

00:29:44.460 in our society.

00:29:45.280 Most people just don't understand

00:29:46.800 how things get into journal

00:29:48.600 and how that changes the culture

00:29:50.620 and how,

00:29:51.600 you know,

00:29:51.840 what I call COVID-19

00:29:53.400 is propaganda masquerading

00:29:55.940 as science

00:29:56.560 because there's no science in it.

00:29:58.580 Let me,

00:29:58.820 let me ask you this,

00:29:59.520 Dr. Judy,

00:29:59.880 by the way,

00:30:00.140 thank you for sharing that.

00:30:00.960 That was very helpful

00:30:01.580 to kind of see the process

00:30:02.940 that come from there to now.

00:30:04.340 So,

00:30:04.980 at that time,

00:30:05.620 Dr. Fauci's 45

00:30:06.740 when he called you

00:30:07.840 with Gallo

00:30:08.660 and you're on the phone with him.

00:30:10.340 Frank at that time

00:30:11.220 is in his early 30s.

00:30:12.280 Is that a pretty accurate statement?

00:30:14.160 No,

00:30:14.420 Frank's almost his same age.

00:30:16.360 Frank's the same age

00:30:17.160 as Dr. Fauci.

00:30:18.200 Correct.

00:30:18.420 And then how old are you

00:30:19.920 at that time?

00:30:21.020 25.

00:30:22.500 25?

00:30:23.600 Yeah.

00:30:24.200 25.

00:30:24.680 Okay.

00:30:25.300 So,

00:30:25.600 this has taken place

00:30:26.780 and for someone

00:30:28.420 that doesn't know,

00:30:29.760 is not in that world,

00:30:31.020 how big of a deal is it

00:30:32.840 for Gallo and Fauci

00:30:34.720 to say,

00:30:35.300 no,

00:30:35.980 you know,

00:30:36.460 let us look at the paper.

00:30:37.600 Frank eventually gives it to Gallo.

00:30:39.360 They rewrite it

00:30:40.160 and then they say,

00:30:40.680 we came up with it first

00:30:41.680 and then they get the patent.

00:30:43.160 When you say

00:30:43.720 they get the patent

00:30:44.820 and they can brag about it,

00:30:46.600 what does this mean

00:30:47.780 in your world?

00:30:48.900 Both respect-wise,

00:30:50.540 both written about,

00:30:51.820 both money-wise,

00:30:53.020 economically,

00:30:54.040 what does it mean

00:30:54.660 when you say

00:30:55.060 they got the patent

00:30:55.840 and they got the credit for it?

00:30:57.840 Well,

00:30:58.260 it means everything

00:30:59.040 because then you get things

00:31:00.400 like the Lasker Award,

00:31:02.120 then you get,

00:31:02.780 you know,

00:31:03.120 then you get positions,

00:31:04.480 then your laboratory

00:31:05.420 gets funded,

00:31:06.520 then you can do

00:31:07.300 much more work.

00:31:08.520 It means everything

00:31:09.880 from the standpoint

00:31:11.080 of,

00:31:12.000 you know,

00:31:12.960 everything that comes

00:31:14.120 after that,

00:31:15.160 you're given the credit

00:31:16.300 for other people's work

00:31:18.340 and you didn't participate

00:31:19.480 at all.

00:31:20.240 You basically stole it.

00:31:22.000 But in the world view,

00:31:25.160 you know,

00:31:25.720 the U.S. tends to say,

00:31:27.280 oh,

00:31:27.460 the French,

00:31:27.980 they don't know anything.

00:31:28.940 We discovered it first.

00:31:30.060 We're the U.S. in medicine.

00:31:31.600 And,

00:31:32.180 you know,

00:31:33.440 taking the,

00:31:35.080 you know,

00:31:35.860 Luc Montagnier

00:31:36.580 and Francois

00:31:37.340 did the work.

00:31:38.400 They recognized the patients.

00:31:39.700 That's the most important thing.

00:31:41.140 Find the patients.

00:31:42.240 Know what you're looking at.

00:31:43.760 And then,

00:31:44.360 you know,

00:31:44.600 it's our job

00:31:45.360 to know how to grow viruses.

00:31:47.460 That's what Frank did.

00:31:48.540 That's what I learned to do

00:31:49.520 from the time I was 25.

00:31:51.360 And so,

00:31:52.100 it's everything.

00:31:53.360 And so,

00:31:53.940 you don't get funding

00:31:54.900 if you don't publish in science.

00:31:56.760 You don't get awards.

00:31:58.580 Got it.

00:31:59.040 Money,

00:31:59.560 money,

00:31:59.880 money,

00:32:00.220 money,

00:32:00.520 everything.

00:32:01.600 So,

00:32:02.100 that helps get even more funding

00:32:04.320 once you can show

00:32:05.420 that you have all these patents.

00:32:06.880 And by the way,

00:32:07.640 is that when six months later

00:32:09.260 he got promoted

00:32:09.960 to being the director?

00:32:10.960 Is that when he got the promotion

00:32:12.180 or no?

00:32:13.100 Correct.

00:32:13.700 That's when he got the promotion.

00:32:14.940 So,

00:32:15.220 six months later

00:32:15.900 he got the promotion

00:32:16.620 and he's had it ever since.

00:32:17.980 Correct.

00:32:18.680 And what kind of power

00:32:19.900 does that give Dr. Fauci?

00:32:21.240 So,

00:32:21.460 once you are,

00:32:22.360 once you become the director

00:32:23.460 of the National Institute

00:32:24.440 of Allergy and Infectious Diseases,

00:32:26.460 what kind of influence

00:32:27.360 does he have at that time?

00:32:28.920 Well,

00:32:29.420 at that time,

00:32:30.520 given HIV,

00:32:31.580 AIDS,

00:32:32.520 it's the biggest thing

00:32:34.500 in our country

00:32:35.320 and our world

00:32:36.020 as far as an infectious disease

00:32:37.720 because we don't really have

00:32:39.360 infectious disease issues.

00:32:41.680 HTLV1,

00:32:42.380 the leukemia-causing virus,

00:32:44.020 was very rare in our country.

00:32:46.240 It was endemic in Japan.

00:32:48.360 And so,

00:32:48.720 quickly,

00:32:49.360 we shut that down

00:32:50.320 with protective measures.

00:32:51.740 Don't breastfeed too long.

00:32:53.320 Don't transmit through blood.

00:32:54.880 There are ways

00:32:55.540 to prevent the spreads

00:32:56.700 of retroviruses,

00:32:57.880 which weren't done

00:32:58.980 in the case of HIV.

00:33:00.160 And you,

00:33:01.120 I mean,

00:33:01.500 I will always argue

00:33:02.760 is because it was intended

00:33:05.440 to get rid of those people

00:33:07.380 and,

00:33:08.380 and,

00:33:08.640 and,

00:33:08.940 you know,

00:33:09.460 kill a specific population.

00:33:11.320 And there's no evidence

00:33:12.540 to say that isn't

00:33:13.880 what was happening.

00:33:14.780 And that's what Charles Ortlieb

00:33:16.380 was writing about.

00:33:17.420 And the reason I wrote

00:33:18.540 his name down

00:33:19.460 is because

00:33:20.180 I asked Frank a few weeks ago

00:33:22.580 and he said,

00:33:23.900 yeah,

00:33:24.740 I used to edit

00:33:26.060 his newspaper

00:33:27.080 to make sure

00:33:27.820 it was scientifically correct.

00:33:30.620 And it had to do right then.

00:33:32.960 And I didn't know

00:33:33.800 until a couple of weeks ago,

00:33:35.320 it was not just AIDS,

00:33:36.900 but it was CFS,

00:33:38.060 chronic fatigue syndrome.

00:33:39.320 So these two

00:33:41.020 always were retroviruses

00:33:43.240 and they knew it

00:33:44.300 and they literally,

00:33:45.820 what was worse

00:33:46.740 than being tired?

00:33:48.420 What is the stigma?

00:33:50.420 Chronic fatigue syndrome.

00:33:51.920 And Bobby wrote it

00:33:52.820 really well.

00:33:54.160 And it's usually women.

00:33:55.980 So now here's

00:33:57.020 a population

00:33:58.040 and what they wrote,

00:33:59.240 and I didn't know this

00:34:00.300 and he,

00:34:00.700 he did the research

00:34:01.520 on his own

00:34:02.100 for the forward.

00:34:02.800 I never saw it.

00:34:03.600 And Bobby went back

00:34:05.200 to the newspapers

00:34:06.020 and here's women

00:34:07.440 who just couldn't handle

00:34:10.180 the stress

00:34:11.460 of big business.

00:34:13.200 Just stay out.

00:34:14.340 You can't play

00:34:15.000 with the old boys.

00:34:16.320 You're fatigued.

00:34:17.240 You're bedridden.

00:34:18.020 You're lazy.

00:34:19.360 You know,

00:34:19.720 what is this?

00:34:21.020 You know,

00:34:21.320 and it's the bias

00:34:22.820 put on a people

00:34:23.840 and a stigma.

00:34:25.080 This shouldn't have been

00:34:25.720 the name.

00:34:26.280 The name of the disease

00:34:27.340 is myalgic encephalomyelitis.

00:34:29.380 Sorry about that.

00:34:30.440 It means inflammation

00:34:31.300 of the brain

00:34:31.860 and spinal cord.

00:34:32.480 And so instead

00:34:33.860 of a scientific disease,

00:34:35.680 they made it,

00:34:36.680 you're crazy.

00:34:37.520 You're not sick.

00:34:38.740 You're just lazy.

00:34:40.120 And in a world

00:34:41.300 where at the time,

00:34:42.840 again,

00:34:43.060 I'm running marathons

00:34:44.240 and riding centuries

00:34:45.260 on my bike,

00:34:46.240 the worst thing

00:34:47.080 in the world

00:34:47.640 was to be lazy

00:34:49.300 and tired.

00:34:50.860 And so the same stigma

00:34:52.000 that was put on,

00:34:52.820 it was the behavior

00:34:53.840 that led to the disease

00:34:55.200 and not an infectious agent.

00:34:57.440 So NIAID

00:34:58.560 was essentially

00:34:59.440 nothing then,

00:35:01.320 but this,

00:35:02.480 the DTP injury,

00:35:07.180 diphtheria,

00:35:08.160 tetanus,

00:35:08.720 and pertussis

00:35:09.740 was causing,

00:35:11.880 that vaccine

00:35:12.680 was causing

00:35:13.300 a great deal

00:35:14.160 of injury

00:35:14.880 in the late 70s

00:35:16.340 and early 80s.

00:35:18.000 And that's in the book

00:35:19.180 as well.

00:35:19.820 And I,

00:35:20.160 you can,

00:35:21.140 maybe you'd like

00:35:21.740 to have on your show

00:35:22.420 Mike Hugo,

00:35:23.340 Michael R. Hugo,

00:35:24.460 the attorney

00:35:25.100 that after he saw

00:35:27.240 the first book,

00:35:28.120 he called me up

00:35:28.780 and he said,

00:35:29.120 you have no idea

00:35:29.920 what you stepped in.

00:35:30.920 And I said,

00:35:31.840 no,

00:35:32.060 I have no idea.

00:35:32.860 Why don't you,

00:35:33.560 and this man's

00:35:35.200 a fabulous story.

00:35:36.280 I had nowhere to go.

00:35:37.660 I'm,

00:35:37.960 I'm literally

00:35:38.620 on house arrest

00:35:40.040 and for five years

00:35:41.300 I can't talk to anybody.

00:35:42.700 So anyway,

00:35:43.540 so that,

00:35:44.240 the,

00:35:44.620 now the National Institute

00:35:47.060 of Allergy,

00:35:47.900 Infectious Disease

00:35:48.840 is,

00:35:49.700 is essentially

00:35:50.400 next to the National

00:35:51.520 Cancer Institute

00:35:52.460 everything.

00:35:54.140 You know,

00:35:54.500 he really controls

00:35:55.980 NIH.

00:35:57.840 Yes,

00:35:58.560 he,

00:35:59.060 Collins,

00:36:02.680 Francis Collins,

00:36:03.700 the head of the NIH

00:36:04.600 is Tony Fauci's puppet.

00:36:07.260 And I'm sorry

00:36:07.860 that I have,

00:36:08.920 you know,

00:36:09.260 there's,

00:36:09.620 there's a lot of data

00:36:10.620 to suggest that.

00:36:11.720 He's a good man.

00:36:12.760 He's not an evil man.

00:36:13.980 He can't conceive

00:36:14.900 of some of this.

00:36:15.940 He's directing

00:36:16.800 and,

00:36:17.660 you know,

00:36:17.900 in,

00:36:18.240 in September

00:36:19.280 or in September

00:36:21.140 when I gave the talk

00:36:22.380 and he asked the question

00:36:23.520 September 6th of 2010

00:36:25.860 about this other mouse,

00:36:27.860 family of mouse viruses

00:36:29.120 jumping into humans.

00:36:32.020 Francis Collins said,

00:36:33.280 where did you get the,

00:36:34.520 where did you get the controls?

00:36:37.200 Where did you get

00:36:37.880 your healthy controls?

00:36:39.100 And I said,

00:36:39.700 the blood supply of London.

00:36:41.580 So we've got 4%

00:36:42.940 in the blood supply of London.

00:36:44.340 Again,

00:36:44.820 this is,

00:36:45.220 this is 25 times HIV,

00:36:47.820 which was never more

00:36:49.040 in our blood supply,

00:36:50.260 never approaching even 1%.

00:36:53.100 And even less,

00:36:54.140 we don't even test for HTLV

00:36:56.240 or at least we hadn't

00:36:57.600 for the last few years.

00:36:58.740 So these things don't end up

00:37:00.740 in the blood supply

00:37:01.780 because our immune systems

00:37:03.560 can really do handle it

00:37:05.120 as long as you educate

00:37:06.500 the immune system to do that.

00:37:08.400 And it's never been

00:37:09.500 with a vaccine

00:37:10.240 despite trillions of dollars

00:37:11.760 that Tony Fauci's been paid

00:37:13.800 to develop vaccines

00:37:15.180 for these viruses.

00:37:16.240 That's under his control.

00:37:18.760 That's under his control.

00:37:20.060 The entire vaccine program,

00:37:21.780 which started in 1999,

00:37:23.180 under his control.

00:37:25.300 So,

00:37:25.540 so let me ask you,

00:37:26.280 going back to it during the AIDS,

00:37:27.400 just out of curiosity,

00:37:28.280 was there ever a shutdown

00:37:29.200 when that pandemic took place?

00:37:30.680 Did U.S. ever shut down

00:37:31.720 the way we are shut down today?

00:37:33.360 Oh,

00:37:33.580 absolutely not.

00:37:34.800 Absolutely not.

00:37:35.800 So everything was business

00:37:36.720 as usual.

00:37:37.240 So for somebody like you

00:37:38.800 watching this from then

00:37:40.520 working with Dr. Anthony Fauci,

00:37:42.940 you know,

00:37:43.460 where you have some kind

00:37:44.380 of a relationship

00:37:44.900 going back and forth with him

00:37:46.100 and seeing him get promoted

00:37:47.660 to the director,

00:37:49.180 then now seeing the recommendation

00:37:50.980 with shutting down all of it,

00:37:52.580 what are you thinking

00:37:53.600 seeing these two things

00:37:54.460 taking place?

00:37:55.860 Well,

00:37:56.300 you know,

00:37:56.520 I'm incredibly angry

00:37:58.220 because it has no basis

00:38:01.800 in science

00:38:02.700 and even more important

00:38:04.220 than in 1983 and 84,

00:38:06.460 we only thought

00:38:07.360 certain behaviors

00:38:08.400 caused this.

00:38:09.560 But again,

00:38:10.180 in 19,

00:38:11.340 in 2011

00:38:12.860 with our paper

00:38:14.720 on the new family

00:38:15.880 of these contagious,

00:38:17.440 contagious cancer

00:38:18.920 causing viruses

00:38:20.040 and they didn't do anything

00:38:22.140 to give safety.

00:38:23.560 They,

00:38:23.740 they actually downgraded it

00:38:25.600 to biosafety level two.

00:38:27.900 We didn't wear a mask

00:38:29.600 ever in my laboratory

00:38:31.560 for HIV.

00:38:32.700 You don't wear a mask

00:38:33.940 because you don't touch your face.

00:38:35.180 Never wore a mask

00:38:36.580 with all 30 years

00:38:38.000 of research.

00:38:39.360 And here we have

00:38:40.080 cancer causing mouse viruses,

00:38:42.020 which were called

00:38:43.220 biosafety level two,

00:38:45.680 meaning you don't,

00:38:46.800 you only have to wear gloves.

00:38:48.300 You don't have to wear a mask.

00:38:50.120 And,

00:38:50.240 and we,

00:38:50.700 our colleagues

00:38:51.520 were getting infected

00:38:52.780 and getting sick in 2011,

00:38:54.840 clear from the air.

00:38:57.120 I seroconverted.

00:38:58.320 I got sick,

00:38:59.500 clear from the air.

00:39:01.380 I got infected.

00:39:02.180 I'm not sick yet

00:39:03.020 because I know

00:39:03.400 how to fix this,

00:39:04.000 right?

00:39:04.420 We got that.

00:39:05.660 You know,

00:39:06.140 10 years ago.

00:39:07.000 So you're infecting

00:39:08.320 the lab workers.

00:39:10.000 You're infecting

00:39:10.980 the first responders.

00:39:12.620 You're infecting

00:39:13.640 the,

00:39:14.020 the military

00:39:15.240 because you're forcing

00:39:16.800 the injection

00:39:17.800 on them.

00:39:18.920 Lab workers

00:39:19.480 were encouraged

00:39:20.400 to get vaccines.

00:39:21.660 And of course,

00:39:22.600 we're thinking,

00:39:23.300 well,

00:39:23.380 yeah,

00:39:23.520 we don't want

00:39:23.920 to catch that.

00:39:24.580 So in the case

00:39:25.600 of,

00:39:26.060 of,

00:39:26.400 of back with HIV,

00:39:28.340 Frank,

00:39:28.660 when the,

00:39:28.940 when the hepatitis B vaccine

00:39:31.180 became available,

00:39:32.220 and this is the book,

00:39:33.800 again,

00:39:34.260 the book in the movie

00:39:35.060 The Band Played On,

00:39:36.240 they thought hepatitis B

00:39:37.940 was,

00:39:38.360 was a cofactor,

00:39:39.800 driving the disease,

00:39:41.640 you know,

00:39:42.180 along with other

00:39:42.940 infectious agents.

00:39:43.920 And,

00:39:44.880 and,

00:39:45.340 and so they encouraged

00:39:47.360 everyone in the laboratory

00:39:49.420 working with patients

00:39:50.580 to get the vaccine.

00:39:52.920 But they,

00:39:53.900 they mandated

00:39:55.040 the deplorables,

00:39:56.780 the,

00:39:56.900 the,

00:39:57.140 the original susceptible,

00:39:58.760 sorry,

00:39:58.960 I'll stop using that term.

00:40:00.380 They mandated

00:40:01.100 the original susceptible

00:40:02.460 population.

00:40:03.820 And,

00:40:04.500 and that's only

00:40:05.120 my disgust.

00:40:06.180 I mean,

00:40:06.660 I,

00:40:06.960 I'm,

00:40:07.360 right now I'm angry

00:40:08.660 and I'm disgusted

00:40:09.800 because,

00:40:10.880 you know,

00:40:11.360 when you didn't,

00:40:12.380 when you did nothing

00:40:13.580 to stop women

00:40:15.100 who are already

00:40:16.400 infected,

00:40:17.580 lab workers

00:40:18.260 who are already

00:40:19.300 infected

00:40:19.940 with this agent

00:40:21.240 in 2009

00:40:22.800 in,

00:40:23.480 in chapter 8

00:40:24.620 of our original book

00:40:25.700 was an invitation

00:40:26.960 only meeting

00:40:28.100 with the highest levels

00:40:29.820 of the government,

00:40:30.720 the FDA,

00:40:31.480 the CDC,

00:40:32.560 you know,

00:40:32.780 and there's one person

00:40:33.640 curiously absent

00:40:34.960 and that was Tony Fauci

00:40:36.560 because he's known

00:40:38.480 for 30 years

00:40:39.540 and we haven't

00:40:40.520 that he shut down

00:40:41.920 the idea that,

00:40:43.140 um,

00:40:43.580 that,

00:40:44.120 uh,

00:40:45.460 a chronic fatigue syndrome

00:40:46.780 is an infectious disease

00:40:48.360 despite the fact

00:40:49.300 that I wasn't

00:40:49.980 the first woman

00:40:51.100 whose career

00:40:52.220 was destroyed

00:40:53.140 because she isolated

00:40:54.720 and identified

00:40:55.660 a virus,

00:40:56.460 a similar virus

00:40:57.900 associated,

00:40:58.700 um,

00:40:59.320 with chronic fatigue syndrome.

00:41:00.640 So,

00:41:01.180 for 30 years

00:41:02.320 this man's been

00:41:03.200 destroying the careers

00:41:04.460 of women

00:41:05.160 and scientists

00:41:06.000 and he stays

00:41:07.320 in the background

00:41:08.080 like,

00:41:08.660 I call it

00:41:09.200 the Wizard of Oz.

00:41:10.100 He's behind the screen

00:41:11.240 and he's the little man,

00:41:12.500 the little puppet

00:41:13.300 and people are all

00:41:14.640 dancing to him

00:41:15.540 because he controls

00:41:16.480 the money,

00:41:17.040 he controls the journals.

00:41:18.600 Well,

00:41:18.780 Francis Collins

00:41:19.620 was,

00:41:20.220 when he heard,

00:41:21.380 when I said

00:41:21.960 the blood supply,

00:41:23.340 he,

00:41:23.660 everybody knows

00:41:24.360 what happened

00:41:24.900 and how HIV

00:41:25.660 spread around the world

00:41:26.840 and to the innocent victims

00:41:28.680 like,

00:41:29.100 like Arthur Ashe

00:41:30.060 and Ryan White

00:41:30.860 and,

00:41:31.260 and,

00:41:31.680 and even

00:41:32.300 Magic Johnson.

00:41:34.020 You know,

00:41:34.480 um,

00:41:34.700 it was put on

00:41:35.740 his bad behavior.

00:41:36.960 That's a cultural thing.

00:41:38.820 Um,

00:41:39.120 but,

00:41:39.560 you know,

00:41:40.360 the vaccine,

00:41:41.480 um,

00:41:41.920 again,

00:41:42.580 the vaccines

00:41:43.180 were made

00:41:43.760 in human plasma

00:41:44.680 at the time

00:41:45.420 and,

00:41:46.000 and,

00:41:46.240 and nobody

00:41:46.900 had identified

00:41:47.880 the,

00:41:48.500 the,

00:41:48.780 the viruses

00:41:49.540 we did.

00:41:50.660 A similar thing,

00:41:51.840 even though Charles

00:41:52.640 Ortlieb is working

00:41:53.780 on AIDS

00:41:54.400 and the woman's disease

00:41:55.860 is called

00:41:56.400 chronic fatigue syndrome,

00:41:58.060 equally derogatory,

00:42:00.760 and,

00:42:01.220 and here you are.

00:42:02.140 So,

00:42:02.600 so I'm angry

00:42:03.560 right now

00:42:04.260 because the mitigation

00:42:05.880 steps,

00:42:06.980 the prevention,

00:42:08.160 the educate

00:42:08.860 the immune system,

00:42:10.100 every single thing

00:42:11.440 that comes out

00:42:12.300 of his mouth

00:42:13.080 is to drive

00:42:14.640 towards his patents

00:42:16.240 and,

00:42:17.420 and,

00:42:17.620 and literally,

00:42:18.960 um,

00:42:19.460 you know,

00:42:19.880 we have spent,

00:42:21.680 you know,

00:42:22.420 at least 20 years

00:42:23.840 and all the data,

00:42:25.500 you know,

00:42:25.820 these vaccines

00:42:26.880 in these viruses,

00:42:28.120 not only the AIDS

00:42:29.960 and the,

00:42:30.400 and the CFS,

00:42:31.740 um,

00:42:32.140 infectious ages,

00:42:33.000 but the coronaviruses.

00:42:34.500 We've tried since SARS,

00:42:36.100 the severe acute,

00:42:37.020 um,

00:42:38.140 respiratory virus,

00:42:39.120 number one.

00:42:39.840 This one is called

00:42:40.680 severe acute respiratory

00:42:41.860 coronavirus,

00:42:42.680 number two.

00:42:43.560 Um,

00:42:43.900 and,

00:42:44.300 and the MERS,

00:42:45.100 the Middle East

00:42:45.880 respiratory,

00:42:47.000 um,

00:42:47.600 syndrome virus,

00:42:49.000 those two,

00:42:50.300 the vaccine development's

00:42:51.560 been going for 20 years

00:42:52.940 and every piece of data

00:42:54.340 says that

00:42:55.520 if you give the vaccine,

00:42:57.880 um,

00:42:58.340 you actually drive

00:42:59.480 the disease,

00:43:00.440 um,

00:43:01.080 and,

00:43:01.420 and the next infection

00:43:02.500 could kill them.

00:43:03.560 So it's,

00:43:04.260 it's,

00:43:04.600 there are terms called

00:43:05.480 viral interference

00:43:06.260 and other thing

00:43:06.820 we don't need to talk about it,

00:43:08.160 but the data is clear.

00:43:09.340 The vaccine,

00:43:10.160 they're driving the disease

00:43:11.240 and killing the people,

00:43:12.860 especially when they,

00:43:14.180 you know,

00:43:14.560 unwittingly see the vaccine,

00:43:16.340 uh,

00:43:16.880 see the virus again.

00:43:18.640 So that,

00:43:19.500 so that all of that knowledge

00:43:20.880 has been there.

00:43:21.620 The flu vaccine's driving

00:43:23.080 the pandemic

00:43:24.160 that we are here.

00:43:25.300 And there's three

00:43:26.180 or four publications

00:43:27.220 over the last 10 years.

00:43:28.760 We know that.

00:43:29.720 Driving the,

00:43:30.340 I call it the evolution.

00:43:32.460 You know,

00:43:32.780 it's not a natural evolution

00:43:34.440 for a virus to go

00:43:35.580 from a bat

00:43:36.300 to a human

00:43:37.140 because it kills

00:43:38.200 all the human cells.

00:43:39.600 And I,

00:43:39.900 in 1999

00:43:40.800 and 97 through 99

00:43:42.680 and as part of my

00:43:43.520 postdoctoral studies,

00:43:44.700 I was working

00:43:46.200 in that Fort Detrick

00:43:47.880 biosafety level

00:43:49.220 four facility.

00:43:50.220 It's called USAMRID,

00:43:51.380 U.S.

00:43:51.860 Army Research Institute

00:43:53.280 of Infectious Disease.

00:43:54.620 It's a military

00:43:55.600 post.

00:43:56.960 It's,

00:43:57.280 that was a

00:43:57.800 biowarfare division

00:43:59.640 Fort Detrick.

00:44:00.580 The pictures are

00:44:01.440 in the middle

00:44:01.880 of the second book.

00:44:03.100 You know,

00:44:03.340 the Cancer Institute

00:44:04.220 and the biowarfare

00:44:05.380 are right next to each other

00:44:06.620 across a baseball field.

00:44:08.740 So again,

00:44:09.560 I went over there

00:44:10.560 to work with Ebola

00:44:11.980 and my job

00:44:13.180 was to understand

00:44:14.260 why certain strains

00:44:15.680 of Ebola

00:44:17.200 killed human cells

00:44:20.360 and others didn't.

00:44:21.620 And so what you get

00:44:22.400 is that landscape,

00:44:24.120 that,

00:44:24.300 that,

00:44:24.640 that signature

00:44:25.880 of disease

00:44:26.460 because it's the

00:44:27.120 immune system

00:44:27.820 that overreacts.

00:44:28.880 It's the immune system

00:44:29.980 that overreacts

00:44:31.120 to the injection

00:44:32.440 of the RNA

00:44:33.520 or the nucleic acid.

00:44:35.080 The vaccine

00:44:35.760 is an injection.

00:44:36.980 So we,

00:44:37.880 you know,

00:44:38.200 but we've,

00:44:38.880 we've come to really

00:44:40.160 bastardize

00:44:41.220 the definition

00:44:42.200 of vaccine

00:44:42.900 developing immunity

00:44:43.980 when in fact

00:44:44.540 they don't.

00:44:45.720 How much of you

00:44:46.820 talking about

00:44:47.620 this kind of stuff

00:44:48.580 is what got you

00:44:49.300 in trouble

00:44:49.760 of you getting arrested?

00:44:51.340 What,

00:44:51.540 what led to your arrest

00:44:52.640 the first time?

00:44:53.300 What caused that?

00:44:53.980 I never talked

00:44:55.680 about this stuff.

00:44:56.400 I had no idea

00:44:57.620 until that day

00:44:58.920 I met Brian Hooker

00:45:00.120 and saw his notebook

00:45:01.460 and then I understood

00:45:02.460 the whole thing.

00:45:03.080 I didn't work in vaccines.

00:45:04.860 I mean,

00:45:05.120 I worked in immune therapy,

00:45:06.580 which is a type

00:45:07.740 of vaccine,

00:45:08.780 but it wasn't for,

00:45:10.220 in that,

00:45:11.060 it wouldn't be

00:45:12.160 called a vaccine.

00:45:13.320 It would be called

00:45:13.920 immune therapy

00:45:14.580 for cancer.

00:45:15.460 That's what we did

00:45:16.200 and AIDS.

00:45:17.440 So what got me

00:45:19.400 in trouble

00:45:19.980 and got me arrested

00:45:21.320 and got me hunted down

00:45:23.120 is when our work

00:45:24.640 and when I presented

00:45:26.600 to the New York

00:45:27.320 Academy of Sciences

00:45:28.380 March 29,

00:45:29.820 2011,

00:45:31.680 when I presented

00:45:32.620 our work

00:45:33.120 that said

00:45:33.540 the blood supply

00:45:34.300 was,

00:45:34.820 you know,

00:45:35.260 at least 10 times

00:45:36.500 more heavily contaminated

00:45:37.840 with,

00:45:38.860 you know,

00:45:39.940 this family of viruses

00:45:41.340 than in the HIV days.

00:45:43.360 I refused

00:45:44.500 to cover up the data

00:45:47.020 and say I'd made

00:45:48.160 a mistake

00:45:48.940 that the blood supply

00:45:49.940 wasn't contaminated

00:45:50.820 because the country

00:45:52.300 could not afford that.

00:45:54.100 HIV has practically

00:45:55.440 bankrupted the world.

00:45:57.260 Look at how many

00:45:58.220 as we've talked about.

00:46:00.260 And it didn't have to either

00:46:02.200 because,

00:46:02.680 of course,

00:46:02.980 we can treat that.

00:46:04.460 But again,

00:46:05.140 we're always driving

00:46:06.240 toward the,

00:46:06.880 we're going to cure it,

00:46:07.660 we've got a disease.

00:46:08.600 Well,

00:46:08.760 we already cured it

00:46:09.740 in 1991.

00:46:10.980 But see,

00:46:11.460 this isn't the way

00:46:12.360 science is spun

00:46:13.580 and we,

00:46:15.320 you know,

00:46:15.940 President Trump,

00:46:17.280 every administration.

00:46:18.280 So it's not a,

00:46:20.960 it's a bipartisan problem

00:46:23.260 because one man's

00:46:24.380 been standing next

00:46:25.420 to every president

00:46:27.080 predicting these pandemics

00:46:28.860 from swine flu

00:46:30.140 to bird flu

00:46:30.980 and H1N1,

00:46:34.040 Zika,

00:46:35.000 Ebola of 2014.

00:46:37.260 And there's no question

00:46:38.420 the viruses kill people,

00:46:41.260 a susceptible population,

00:46:42.680 but the answer is never

00:46:44.160 and won't be a vaccine.

00:46:45.880 So why are we locking

00:46:47.020 down the world

00:46:47.940 and putting people

00:46:49.120 in masks

00:46:49.880 and which injures yourself?

00:46:51.780 It immune suppresses you,

00:46:53.440 especially if you get a vaccine

00:46:55.000 because now you're inhaling

00:46:56.200 that virus

00:46:57.240 and amplifying it

00:46:58.240 over and over and over again

00:46:59.380 and you could die

00:47:00.080 from that vaccine

00:47:01.320 and wearing a mask alone.

00:47:03.240 I got this article here.

00:47:04.420 I got this article here.

00:47:05.440 November 22nd,

00:47:06.340 2011

00:47:06.940 from Chicago Tribune report.

00:47:09.340 I think it's important

00:47:10.040 for the audience

00:47:10.720 to kind of see this

00:47:11.840 because all of this

00:47:13.480 is bringing the amount

00:47:14.800 of influence,

00:47:15.660 whether it's big pharma,

00:47:17.180 whether it's control,

00:47:18.880 whether it's vaccination,

00:47:20.420 whatever it may be,

00:47:21.360 depopulation,

00:47:22.200 reducing population growth.

00:47:23.780 All of this is kind of

00:47:24.620 coming together

00:47:25.320 and this was written

00:47:26.420 all over the place.

00:47:27.040 This is just one

00:47:27.600 of the articles I took out.

00:47:28.580 You can see several

00:47:29.560 different links.

00:47:30.580 Two years,

00:47:31.080 this is November 22nd,

00:47:32.340 2011.

00:47:32.900 Title says,

00:47:33.780 Discredited Chronic Fatigue

00:47:35.440 Research in California Jail.

00:47:37.240 Okay.

00:47:38.000 Two years ago,

00:47:38.700 researcher Judy Mikovits

00:47:40.540 was riding atop

00:47:42.260 a wave of promise.

00:47:43.320 She had published

00:47:43.760 one of the most

00:47:44.280 discussed papers

00:47:45.320 of the year

00:47:45.840 and one of the most

00:47:46.440 prestigious scientific

00:47:47.260 publications in the world.

00:47:48.640 Her team's findings

00:47:49.460 were hailed as

00:47:50.160 potential breakthrough

00:47:50.840 for an illness,

00:47:51.540 chronic fatigue syndrome

00:47:53.020 that had long,

00:47:53.960 frustrated researchers.

00:47:54.980 She was invited

00:47:55.620 to speak at scientific

00:47:56.780 conferences around the globe

00:47:58.600 adoring patients,

00:47:59.840 crowded her at her talks.

00:48:01.580 I mean,

00:48:01.780 it talks about

00:48:02.600 what you did

00:48:03.760 and then you said

00:48:04.780 this is a proud moment

00:48:05.760 because I've had people

00:48:06.680 calling me from Dubai,

00:48:07.840 China,

00:48:08.200 you name it,

00:48:08.720 they're contacting me.

00:48:09.520 So this is at the top of,

00:48:11.720 would you say this was

00:48:12.540 at the top of your career

00:48:13.580 at this time,

00:48:14.460 right before this event

00:48:15.440 taking place

00:48:16.000 like middle of 2011?

00:48:18.620 Yeah.

00:48:19.580 It was.

00:48:20.620 And then this happens.

00:48:22.240 What led to this event?

00:48:23.860 I'm curious to know

00:48:24.460 what led to this event?

00:48:25.760 Well,

00:48:26.920 as the data

00:48:27.780 from that

00:48:28.540 March 29th talk

00:48:30.700 went on,

00:48:31.820 as our colleague

00:48:33.420 and I won't name him

00:48:34.540 reported that

00:48:35.340 the biologicals

00:48:36.440 that were likely

00:48:37.080 transmitting these viruses

00:48:38.580 were vaccines

00:48:39.760 as the studies

00:48:41.200 from other people,

00:48:42.840 myself,

00:48:43.580 my team

00:48:44.280 showed the link

00:48:45.420 to autism

00:48:46.420 as the,

00:48:47.680 as the,

00:48:49.080 the,

00:48:50.200 it appeared

00:48:50.780 ITP,

00:48:51.860 which is a blood disease

00:48:53.120 that's associated

00:48:54.100 with MMR.

00:48:55.920 That's a,

00:48:56.520 it's listed

00:48:57.220 as a side effect

00:48:58.420 of some people

00:48:59.740 with MMR

00:49:00.600 as the cancers

00:49:02.100 and the disease

00:49:03.140 associations

00:49:03.980 and the realization

00:49:05.700 of,

00:49:06.900 of how many strains

00:49:08.520 of these viruses,

00:49:09.500 we can't even tell you

00:49:11.020 how many

00:49:11.620 have entered humans.

00:49:13.720 It should have said

00:49:15.440 everything needs to stop.

00:49:17.400 We've got a tremendous problem.

00:49:19.300 And,

00:49:20.200 um,

00:49:20.480 so what led

00:49:21.300 up to that

00:49:22.180 is we were,

00:49:23.720 um,

00:49:24.880 you know,

00:49:25.160 we were,

00:49:25.560 we were told to,

00:49:26.940 we were encouraged

00:49:28.440 to retract

00:49:29.580 our findings

00:49:30.640 and,

00:49:31.440 and,

00:49:31.960 and not discuss

00:49:33.420 the blood supply

00:49:34.340 being contaminated,

00:49:35.480 but to,

00:49:37.040 to publish studies

00:49:38.460 that were called

00:49:39.260 failure to confirm,

00:49:40.560 just like other investigators

00:49:42.220 were literally,

00:49:43.300 I call it,

00:49:43.920 commission fraud

00:49:44.880 because they were paid,

00:49:46.520 they were given grants

00:49:48.080 from NIAID

00:49:49.380 and other places.

00:49:50.360 They would otherwise

00:49:51.460 not,

00:49:52.420 um,

00:49:52.820 get grants.

00:49:53.560 They were publishing papers

00:49:54.860 in that same journal

00:49:56.220 science

00:49:56.820 that were actually,

00:49:58.680 um,

00:49:59.380 um,

00:49:59.780 violation

00:50:00.820 of things like

00:50:02.420 our human subjects

00:50:03.700 review boards

00:50:04.580 and things like that.

00:50:05.880 Um,

00:50:06.200 they were,

00:50:06.800 they were invited

00:50:07.620 to publish

00:50:08.580 really quickly,

00:50:09.820 um,

00:50:10.380 by the CDC,

00:50:11.480 by other people

00:50:12.440 to,

00:50:13.160 to cover up the data.

00:50:14.660 And,

00:50:15.380 and I just

00:50:16.080 simply would not fold,

00:50:18.000 um,

00:50:18.560 these patients,

00:50:19.740 you know,

00:50:20.060 and,

00:50:20.400 and I wrote a,

00:50:21.240 I wrote an email

00:50:21.980 August 31st of 2011

00:50:24.820 to the head

00:50:27.920 of the National Heart,

00:50:29.040 Lung,

00:50:29.200 and Blood Institute,

00:50:30.020 her name is Simone Glenn,

00:50:31.620 and,

00:50:32.360 um,

00:50:32.840 and I copied

00:50:33.640 Frank Cresetti.

00:50:34.680 And I wrote the email

00:50:36.000 and said,

00:50:36.700 uh-uh,

00:50:37.320 I'm not covering it up.

00:50:38.740 That's not a association study.

00:50:41.260 That paper's not coming out

00:50:42.960 that way,

00:50:43.600 that you will not rush

00:50:45.280 to publish this

00:50:46.500 and,

00:50:47.200 and basically said,

00:50:48.600 you know,

00:50:48.980 I'll write a dissenting opinion

00:50:50.660 if I have to.

00:50:51.820 You can publish

00:50:52.680 whatever you want,

00:50:53.720 but Frank Cresetti

00:50:54.920 and I don't,

00:50:56.260 won't,

00:50:56.640 won't sign our names

00:50:57.660 to this

00:50:58.100 because this is fraud.

00:50:59.640 And,

00:51:00.280 um,

00:51:00.980 and three days later,

00:51:02.220 I get a phone call

00:51:03.340 saying,

00:51:04.260 and,

00:51:04.680 and it's Simone Glenn

00:51:06.000 on one line

00:51:07.200 and Michael Bush

00:51:08.520 in San Francisco,

00:51:10.020 the head of the

00:51:10.600 Blood Systems Research Institute.

00:51:12.260 And you can follow

00:51:13.280 the people on the papers,

00:51:14.780 um,

00:51:15.160 the authors,

00:51:16.160 you,

00:51:16.320 he was the senior author

00:51:17.500 on that paper.

00:51:18.820 Um,

00:51:19.220 and it was very clear

00:51:20.280 the blood supply

00:51:20.960 was heavily contaminated

00:51:22.100 and we didn't have

00:51:22.740 a good diagnostic test

00:51:23.980 because we had

00:51:24.600 too many strains

00:51:25.320 of viruses.

00:51:26.540 So you can't do a PCR,

00:51:28.220 you can't do

00:51:28.900 a serology test

00:51:30.280 because it's

00:51:30.860 a conformational epitope

00:51:32.220 that means shape,

00:51:33.160 not a sequence.

00:51:33.920 So the test

00:51:34.900 that Abbott has

00:51:36.000 is a sequence

00:51:37.100 and that's null and void.

00:51:38.700 It's never found

00:51:39.320 a positive anywhere.

00:51:40.180 So they lose their patents,

00:51:41.760 they lose their money,

00:51:42.940 they lose the investigators,

00:51:44.720 the other investigators

00:51:45.840 are going to lose

00:51:46.980 their careers,

00:51:48.440 their lives,

00:51:49.260 they're not going

00:51:50.180 to be funded anymore.

00:51:51.920 They,

00:51:52.160 and they know that

00:51:53.200 and,

00:51:53.480 and every person

00:51:54.400 on the paper

00:51:55.220 essentially,

00:51:56.880 um,

00:51:57.460 you know,

00:51:57.760 has been paid

00:51:58.560 since that time

00:51:59.580 in grants

00:52:00.200 they didn't earn.

00:52:01.140 All of mine

00:52:01.740 were taken away

00:52:02.540 from me.

00:52:03.520 Um,

00:52:03.820 and,

00:52:04.240 and I was told

00:52:05.420 on that,

00:52:06.380 that Labor Day,

00:52:07.580 um,

00:52:07.980 Monday,

00:52:08.400 that if that paper

00:52:09.640 weren't ready

00:52:10.440 to come out,

00:52:11.540 uh,

00:52:12.540 in time for

00:52:13.600 the IACFS meeting,

00:52:15.620 the International

00:52:16.540 Association of CFS,

00:52:18.160 it was held

00:52:18.580 in Ottawa,

00:52:19.140 Canada,

00:52:19.520 that year,

00:52:20.500 and I'm supposed

00:52:21.140 to debate

00:52:22.080 John Coffin

00:52:23.140 on,

00:52:24.140 on,

00:52:24.560 on the association

00:52:25.580 on,

00:52:26.220 on,

00:52:26.460 of this virus family,

00:52:28.540 um,

00:52:28.800 and,

00:52:29.260 and he's purporting

00:52:30.700 his,

00:52:31.220 you know,

00:52:31.820 recombination theory,

00:52:33.020 never happened,

00:52:33.940 never will again.

00:52:34.880 That's the chapter

00:52:35.620 of the first book

00:52:36.440 called The Immaculate

00:52:37.780 Recombination.

00:52:39.220 And,

00:52:39.480 and I could tell you

00:52:40.320 why we called it that,

00:52:41.560 but,

00:52:41.980 at any rate,

00:52:42.900 because it never

00:52:43.800 happened the first time.

00:52:44.800 It was pure fraud.

00:52:46.120 And,

00:52:46.400 and some investigators

00:52:47.420 caught him

00:52:48.200 in changing the sequences

00:52:49.540 in the gene bank

00:52:50.820 or encouraging

00:52:51.800 that the sequences

00:52:53.120 be changed.

00:52:53.940 We made a little mistake

00:52:54.880 when we sequenced

00:52:55.700 the virus

00:52:56.200 in order to put together

00:52:57.680 this.

00:52:57.960 At any rate,

00:52:58.520 so the,

00:52:59.420 uh,

00:52:59.480 I mean,

00:53:00.320 this,

00:53:00.720 this is another paper

00:53:02.560 I have here.

00:53:03.880 So,

00:53:04.300 Science the Journal,

00:53:05.620 you can see there

00:53:06.740 it says false positive.

00:53:08.980 So,

00:53:09.380 my bosses

00:53:10.060 own a company,

00:53:11.660 the,

00:53:11.820 the,

00:53:12.120 the heads of the institutes

00:53:13.800 own a company

00:53:15.040 that's been doing

00:53:16.360 a diagnostic test.

00:53:18.460 They don't have anything

00:53:19.360 to do with my research

00:53:20.420 program or the institute.

00:53:21.580 They're on their own

00:53:22.840 doing a diagnostic test

00:53:24.920 that the,

00:53:26.300 that Michael Bush,

00:53:27.420 um,

00:53:27.940 wrote in emails

00:53:29.100 and,

00:53:29.460 and was unvalidated

00:53:30.800 that had not done

00:53:31.720 enough negative controls.

00:53:33.380 And so,

00:53:33.980 here the day,

00:53:34.960 the day

00:53:35.860 before that meeting

00:53:37.360 or after that meeting

00:53:39.000 or before

00:53:39.540 is false positive.

00:53:41.160 So,

00:53:41.500 if you sell a test

00:53:42.440 to Medicare

00:53:42.940 and it's not validated

00:53:44.440 and you do tell a patient

00:53:45.600 they have a virus

00:53:46.740 they don't have,

00:53:48.320 um,

00:53:48.740 that's,

00:53:49.280 um,

00:53:49.600 a federal crime.

00:53:50.860 Okay.

00:53:51.560 And,

00:53:51.860 and a lot of other crimes.

00:53:53.300 So,

00:53:53.640 um,

00:53:54.460 the fact of the matter

00:53:55.460 is the tests

00:53:56.180 weren't false positive.

00:53:57.620 So,

00:53:58.400 um,

00:53:58.920 and,

00:53:59.540 uh,

00:53:59.840 again,

00:54:00.280 I,

00:54:00.720 I'm told on the phone

00:54:02.120 on,

00:54:02.680 on August 31st

00:54:04.120 if I don't say

00:54:05.100 in that same meeting,

00:54:06.420 um,

00:54:07.380 that I made a mistake

00:54:08.540 and there's no viruses

00:54:09.580 and I'm,

00:54:10.260 I'm wrong

00:54:10.800 and we can all go home

00:54:11.820 now and I'll,

00:54:12.700 I,

00:54:12.900 I,

00:54:13.140 I literally,

00:54:14.020 the apology

00:54:14.660 as I'm being held

00:54:15.840 in jail.

00:54:16.640 On November 22nd

00:54:18.240 when the article

00:54:18.880 you read came out,

00:54:20.200 I'm held in a Ventura

00:54:21.880 jail for five days

00:54:23.460 without an arrest

00:54:24.620 and I'm taken

00:54:25.460 from my home.

00:54:26.640 They come in,

00:54:27.380 they try to,

00:54:28.260 they try to find,

00:54:30.000 you know,

00:54:30.340 literally create a crime.

00:54:31.980 There's,

00:54:32.280 I,

00:54:32.540 you know,

00:54:32.840 they fabricate a mugshot

00:54:34.360 and Science the Journal

00:54:35.680 finds all of this.

00:54:37.020 The man named John Cohen,

00:54:38.540 he follows all of this.

00:54:40.060 He's not,

00:54:40.720 he's not part

00:54:41.660 of a scientific journalist.

00:54:43.400 He works for the op-ed

00:54:45.100 part of the magazine.

00:54:46.260 So,

00:54:46.860 he's just propaganda.

00:54:48.660 He's just editorializing

00:54:50.660 or propaganda

00:54:51.680 and,

00:54:52.660 um,

00:54:53.200 and so at that time,

00:54:54.620 back all the way

00:54:57.260 on June 2nd

00:54:58.860 when two negative papers

00:55:00.300 that were commissioned

00:55:01.260 fraud came out

00:55:02.400 in Science the Journal,

00:55:06.420 you know,

00:55:07.020 the journal editor said,

00:55:08.800 okay,

00:55:09.000 I've seen enough.

00:55:10.040 I'm concerned.

00:55:11.600 The author should retract

00:55:13.100 the paper

00:55:13.680 and we wrote,

00:55:15.020 Dr. Rossetti

00:55:15.980 and I wrote

00:55:16.600 a detailed letter

00:55:17.900 and showed it

00:55:20.020 to every investigator

00:55:21.280 on the paper

00:55:22.280 of all the scientific data

00:55:24.260 that said

00:55:24.760 the only thing

00:55:25.520 that was wrong

00:55:26.160 with the paper

00:55:27.320 was figure one

00:55:28.900 which belonged

00:55:29.660 to Bob Silverman

00:55:31.220 and the PCR test

00:55:32.540 not detecting

00:55:33.400 the viruses,

00:55:34.260 not,

00:55:34.680 in fact,

00:55:35.120 it was false,

00:55:36.000 negative

00:55:36.400 and so,

00:55:37.440 and he held the patent

00:55:38.520 and Abbott's paying

00:55:39.620 his laboratory

00:55:40.340 there in Cleveland

00:55:42.020 and so again,

00:55:44.820 everybody has a conflict

00:55:46.080 of interest

00:55:46.700 but us

00:55:47.420 so the journal agreed

00:55:50.200 we won't retract,

00:55:52.140 we'll only partial retract

00:55:53.800 so as I'm held in jail,

00:55:56.560 the journal says

00:55:57.580 we have no choice

00:55:59.720 but to force

00:56:01.200 the retraction

00:56:02.200 of the paper

00:56:02.820 so the arrest,

00:56:04.660 the,

00:56:05.360 you know,

00:56:05.620 it's scare you,

00:56:06.520 it's get you

00:56:07.040 to kill yourself

00:56:07.960 and they hunted me down

00:56:09.820 and on more than one occasion

00:56:12.940 Tom tried to kill me

00:56:14.480 so the time you mentioned

00:56:15.720 the four days

00:56:16.680 it was actually,

00:56:18.220 yeah,

00:56:18.520 five days

00:56:19.340 I hid on a boat

00:56:20.640 because I lived in Oxnard

00:56:22.420 in the Channel Islands Harbor

00:56:23.860 and we had a boat dock home

00:56:25.660 with a couple of boats

00:56:26.660 and at four in the morning

00:56:28.240 our house is surrounded.

00:56:29.860 That chapter in the book

00:56:30.820 is called

00:56:31.320 Scientists at Sea

00:56:32.420 and we go into great detail

00:56:34.560 of what happened that day

00:56:35.820 with my husband

00:56:36.520 and I was on my way

00:56:37.940 to a job interview.

00:56:38.980 I'd already been fired

00:56:40.160 six weeks earlier

00:56:41.520 and with all the grants I had

00:56:43.640 and the ability

00:56:44.620 to study this big discovery

00:56:46.500 and there were drug developers

00:56:48.500 who were saying

00:56:49.220 hey,

00:56:49.440 we don't have a problem

00:56:50.180 that you don't have

00:56:51.100 a diagnostic test,

00:56:52.260 we see your data,

00:56:53.140 we believe the data

00:56:54.120 just like the editors

00:56:55.320 of science said

00:56:56.240 all that summer.

00:56:57.320 So the only answer

00:56:58.260 somebody had

00:56:59.220 was to,

00:57:00.420 you know,

00:57:01.480 carry out the threats

00:57:02.640 and I gave the talk

00:57:04.200 I wasn't supposed to give.

00:57:05.580 I was fired

00:57:06.580 within a week

00:57:07.380 of that talk

00:57:08.100 as I stood on the sidewalk.

00:57:09.860 I never went back there.

00:57:11.240 My entire laboratory

00:57:12.420 was locked out automatically

00:57:15.740 and they literally

00:57:17.260 set up a crime.

00:57:18.500 Watergate style,

00:57:19.520 let's make it look like

00:57:20.620 she went crazy,

00:57:21.900 went in there,

00:57:22.700 took the notebooks,

00:57:23.720 took the stuff,

00:57:24.580 she made it all up

00:57:25.700 for her greater glory

00:57:26.780 and you know,

00:57:27.380 what you just read there

00:57:28.460 and I don't care

00:57:29.100 about that stuff.

00:57:29.860 And it just,

00:57:33.020 and again,

00:57:34.200 but my postdoc,

00:57:35.380 my student,

00:57:36.320 was angry

00:57:38.160 and he said,

00:57:38.960 Judy,

00:57:39.240 you don't understand

00:57:40.000 and I'm Pollyanna,

00:57:41.820 I trust everybody

00:57:43.080 and I said,

00:57:43.700 oh,

00:57:43.840 she's just angry

00:57:44.720 because of this

00:57:45.660 false positive thing,

00:57:47.180 it'll blow over,

00:57:48.100 it's not an issue,

00:57:49.160 blah, blah, blah.

00:57:50.300 And so she called me

00:57:52.300 and it was clear

00:57:53.440 they were attempting

00:57:55.200 to cover up

00:57:56.560 their misappropriation

00:57:57.780 of federal funds.

00:57:59.460 So,

00:57:59.940 you know,

00:58:00.420 there's a little

00:58:00.940 quid pro quo

00:58:01.680 going on there,

00:58:02.560 the government

00:58:03.820 sitting there saying

00:58:04.720 you'll keep your grants,

00:58:06.320 you'll keep the money,

00:58:07.900 you'll keep your institutes,

00:58:09.220 you won't go to jail

00:58:10.280 if you make sure

00:58:11.340 nobody ever sees that data

00:58:12.940 because what did my notebook say?

00:58:14.780 They were like

00:58:15.440 William Thompson's.

00:58:16.760 What are we going to do

00:58:17.960 about,

00:58:18.520 this was the names,

00:58:19.600 these were the people,

00:58:20.740 these were the true infected,

00:58:22.240 this was the depth

00:58:23.700 and breadth

00:58:24.380 of the infection

00:58:25.600 that had spread

00:58:26.400 unchecked

00:58:27.460 since the early 80s

00:58:29.720 that happened

00:58:30.720 right at the same time

00:58:32.100 as HIV.

00:58:33.140 Now here we have

00:58:33.920 two viruses

00:58:34.600 and one susceptible

00:58:36.240 population gets one

00:58:37.560 and the other

00:58:38.100 gets lifelong diseases

00:58:39.500 like AIDS.

00:58:41.220 So that,

00:58:41.620 you know,

00:58:41.960 so the jailing

00:58:42.960 and the arrest,

00:58:44.180 you know,

00:58:44.600 science,

00:58:45.220 the journal said

00:58:45.900 we've lost confidence

00:58:46.960 and that blood working

00:58:49.860 group paper

00:58:50.500 that was entitled

00:58:51.500 Failure to Confirm,

00:58:53.920 that wasn't a

00:58:54.700 Failure to Confirm paper,

00:58:56.180 was published

00:58:57.120 November 11th.

00:58:58.440 So I was hiding

00:58:59.440 on the boat

00:59:00.120 between November 9th

00:59:02.440 and November 14th

00:59:04.640 when I came off the boat

00:59:05.900 because my husband

00:59:07.120 found a lawyer

00:59:08.020 through our church

00:59:09.120 who said,

00:59:09.880 oh,

00:59:09.980 that's not a problem.

00:59:11.280 You know,

00:59:11.720 and the lawyer

00:59:12.440 was for wrongful termination

00:59:14.740 and retaliation

00:59:16.120 and RICO,

00:59:17.480 it's called Key Tam,

00:59:18.920 for me whistleblowing

00:59:20.080 on the situation.

00:59:21.780 So that,

00:59:22.900 I mean,

00:59:23.260 that case

00:59:24.000 never made it to court.

00:59:25.580 It was held under seal

00:59:26.860 for five years

00:59:28.640 and you know

00:59:29.540 when it was,

00:59:30.420 under seal means

00:59:31.480 you can't even say

00:59:32.400 you have a case.

00:59:33.260 You can't get a lawyer

00:59:34.280 because the government's

00:59:35.440 considering going in

00:59:37.160 on a whistleblowing case

00:59:38.800 and if the government

00:59:40.200 comes in,

00:59:40.880 then they take everything

00:59:41.740 and then they do,

00:59:42.540 they use the DOJ

00:59:43.520 and they use everything

00:59:44.460 and we've talked

00:59:45.400 to the FBI

00:59:46.300 literally

00:59:47.380 since we,

00:59:48.560 since I got out of jail.

00:59:50.280 And I hired a lawyer

00:59:51.860 when I'm literally,

00:59:53.300 you know,

00:59:53.560 just my career's over.

00:59:55.060 I've hired a lawyer

00:59:55.880 to defend me

00:59:58.580 from the FBI

00:59:59.660 because the FBI

01:00:01.160 turns it around on you

01:00:02.920 and says,

01:00:03.980 it's your fault

01:00:04.740 you did that.

01:00:05.720 And I just know that

01:00:06.980 because I grew up

01:00:07.660 in Washington, D.C.

01:00:08.660 and that's all discussed

01:00:09.880 in the book.

01:00:11.160 Who was the director

01:00:12.340 of FBI at that time?

01:00:13.400 Was it,

01:00:13.640 was it Comey

01:00:15.360 or was it,

01:00:15.980 in 11,

01:00:17.400 was it Director Comey?

01:00:18.760 I have no idea.

01:00:19.700 Yeah, I think it was

01:00:20.540 because,

01:00:21.160 yeah,

01:00:21.600 he,

01:00:21.980 because he just lost

01:00:23.040 his, what,

01:00:23.600 15-year career retirement

01:00:25.460 and see,

01:00:26.200 that's what they've threatened

01:00:27.160 Frank Rossetti of.

01:00:28.500 We'll fire you

01:00:29.420 before the end

01:00:30.080 of the fiscal year

01:00:30.820 for fraud

01:00:31.520 in your original

01:00:32.320 science paper

01:00:33.180 and you and your wife

01:00:34.580 will lose

01:00:35.120 your 75 years

01:00:36.500 combined retirement.

01:00:37.840 And I said,

01:00:38.260 Frank,

01:00:38.580 I'm already under the bus,

01:00:39.780 roll over me.

01:00:41.080 And,

01:00:41.220 and,

01:00:41.500 and,

01:00:41.840 but,

01:00:43.060 but he kept his promise

01:00:44.400 because,

01:00:45.240 you know,

01:00:46.240 he's taken care of me

01:00:47.540 since and funded our,

01:00:48.620 and so that we could continue.

01:00:50.540 And that's the last chapter

01:00:51.880 of the book.

01:00:52.760 So Frank Rossetti's

01:00:53.920 an honest man

01:00:54.640 and a scientist

01:00:55.300 with integrity as well

01:00:57.200 who,

01:00:58.160 who taught me

01:00:59.220 and,

01:00:59.840 and he,

01:01:00.580 he refused

01:01:01.460 the same order

01:01:02.660 that William Thompson has,

01:01:04.140 which is throw away

01:01:05.060 the data,

01:01:06.060 burn it,

01:01:07.040 burn all the samples

01:01:08.060 so you can never track

01:01:09.620 what,

01:01:10.840 this plague

01:01:11.540 of corruption.

01:01:12.620 And that was,

01:01:13.280 that was again,

01:01:14.280 November of 2011.

01:01:15.960 So I'm held in jail

01:01:17.520 and you can follow

01:01:18.540 the science articles

01:01:19.980 from John Cohen

01:01:21.200 and Martin and Serink.

01:01:22.400 They said,

01:01:22.780 oh,

01:01:22.880 we're not part

01:01:23.400 of the scientific stuff.

01:01:24.680 We're the op-eds.

01:01:25.880 We're,

01:01:26.060 we just write.

01:01:26.960 We're freelance writers

01:01:28.080 and we don't,

01:01:28.900 we don't belong

01:01:29.620 to the journal.

01:01:30.200 And,

01:01:30.720 and they wrote 22 articles.

01:01:33.660 Beleaguered Institute

01:01:34.780 keeps grants.

01:01:36.600 Oh,

01:01:37.400 okay.

01:01:38.240 You know,

01:01:38.700 they just got paid.

01:01:39.960 Same thing with Bob Silverman.

01:01:41.640 He got paid.

01:01:42.860 His paper was retracted.

01:01:44.440 They apologized to him

01:01:46.040 because his honest mistake

01:01:48.020 was,

01:01:48.720 you know,

01:01:48.920 when it's,

01:01:49.360 when it's withdrawn,

01:01:50.600 it's considered

01:01:51.580 an honest mistake.

01:01:52.600 When it's retracted,

01:01:54.300 it's considered fraud.

01:01:56.260 It was retracted.

01:01:57.540 It wasn't an honest mistake.

01:01:59.300 He took the bait.

01:02:00.800 He took the buy off

01:02:02.080 and the payoff

01:02:02.840 and,

01:02:03.420 and let this,

01:02:04.760 and let Judy Mikevitz

01:02:05.920 and Frank Rossetti

01:02:06.800 take the,

01:02:08.200 you know,

01:02:08.900 take it.

01:02:09.820 And so again,

01:02:10.840 they're just,

01:02:12.040 you know,

01:02:12.620 that's what that story

01:02:13.860 is all about.

01:02:14.440 That's intense.

01:02:15.200 Now,

01:02:15.460 now that,

01:02:16.100 but by the way,

01:02:16.640 2011 is very different

01:02:18.320 than what happened

01:02:18.900 in 04

01:02:19.260 when you were forced

01:02:20.620 to file bankruptcy

01:02:21.360 with the whole perfect score,

01:02:22.640 $10 million,

01:02:23.400 three houses,

01:02:24.020 boats,

01:02:24.240 and everything you had,

01:02:25.000 right?

01:02:25.200 That's 2014.

01:02:27.140 2014.

01:02:28.000 So that's 2011.

01:02:29.540 Then you have 2014.

01:02:31.180 Now,

01:02:31.540 2014 and 2011,

01:02:33.300 do either one of them

01:02:34.360 have anything

01:02:35.080 to do with

01:02:36.700 Dr. Anthony Fauci?

01:02:38.120 Any influence

01:02:38.840 with him at all?

01:02:40.660 Well,

01:02:41.180 yes,

01:02:41.440 both of them.

01:02:43.200 Because in what way?

01:02:44.440 Tony Fauci is NIAID.

01:02:46.640 They funded our $5 million

01:02:48.140 of grants.

01:02:49.480 So again,

01:02:50.540 they forget,

01:02:51.520 you know,

01:02:52.240 they,

01:02:52.800 in November,

01:02:54.340 I think it was November 15th

01:02:56.620 of 2011,

01:02:59.000 Tony Fauci sends

01:03:00.280 his grants administrators,

01:03:02.080 and one of them's names

01:03:02.960 was Kathy Laughlin.

01:03:04.540 And they sent them

01:03:05.440 to the Institute

01:03:06.320 days before I was arrested,

01:03:08.840 while they were,

01:03:09.960 you know,

01:03:10.220 I was hiding.

01:03:11.560 And,

01:03:12.060 and,

01:03:12.420 and he says,

01:03:13.900 and,

01:03:14.260 and,

01:03:14.720 and he goes there

01:03:15.780 to make sure

01:03:16.680 all the records

01:03:17.820 are in order.

01:03:18.820 We have everything.

01:03:20.360 Okay,

01:03:20.740 you keep your grants

01:03:21.840 if everything's in order.

01:03:23.260 So he sent,

01:03:24.760 you know,

01:03:25.500 his grants administrators

01:03:26.800 to the,

01:03:28.260 to the Institute

01:03:29.080 and check the box

01:03:30.700 saying it was all in order.

01:03:32.880 Because at the time,

01:03:34.680 they,

01:03:35.100 they had no idea

01:03:36.040 Max caught them

01:03:37.040 in the act

01:03:37.740 of the,

01:03:38.520 of the burglary

01:03:39.640 on September 29th,

01:03:41.400 the day before the end

01:03:42.440 of the fiscal year.

01:03:43.500 So we were going

01:03:44.440 to rewrite history

01:03:45.600 much like William Thompson.

01:03:47.360 Take those notebooks,

01:03:48.620 write it in other things.

01:03:50.040 We didn't do anything wrong.

01:03:51.320 Here's the research.

01:03:52.240 We didn't misappropriate funds.

01:03:54.460 And so Anthony Fauci

01:03:55.560 sends his grants administrators.

01:03:57.500 He's the boss.

01:03:58.600 You follow the money.

01:04:00.120 He came in.

01:04:01.200 He says,

01:04:01.740 it's all in order.

01:04:02.680 It's all there.

01:04:04.040 And all of a sudden,

01:04:04.860 the big,

01:04:05.220 oh my God,

01:04:05.860 when they filed

01:04:06.500 this civil lawsuit

01:04:07.520 to me on November 4th,

01:04:09.180 they,

01:04:09.460 they had already filed

01:04:10.580 a civil lawsuit

01:04:11.440 saying that I stole

01:04:13.020 their intellectual property.

01:04:15.320 And I,

01:04:16.040 one of the patients

01:04:17.100 was a lawyer

01:04:17.920 and she,

01:04:19.440 and I needed to,

01:04:20.260 to reply

01:04:21.060 and,

01:04:21.700 and send the letter in

01:04:23.080 before a certain time

01:04:24.740 the next day.

01:04:25.560 And I literally,

01:04:26.820 I,

01:04:27.060 she was a lawyer.

01:04:27.840 She wrote it in legal terms.

01:04:29.320 She filed it

01:04:30.240 and she proved

01:04:30.860 I could not possibly

01:04:32.120 have done what they said I did.

01:04:33.780 And I,

01:04:34.360 I'm sure that was probably

01:04:35.860 one of the funnier days

01:04:36.920 in my life.

01:04:37.800 The collective,

01:04:38.860 oh,

01:04:39.780 you know,

01:04:40.560 we,

01:04:41.040 oh no,

01:04:42.000 where are,

01:04:43.000 where's the data?

01:04:44.440 Where's the data?

01:04:45.360 Where's the information?

01:04:46.680 We thought we set up

01:04:48.020 the perfect crime.

01:04:49.760 And,

01:04:49.800 and so that,

01:04:50.920 that,

01:04:51.340 that,

01:04:51.660 and then when they

01:04:52.600 couldn't find it,

01:04:53.920 you know,

01:04:54.160 when they did their,

01:04:55.220 their fake warrant,

01:04:57.140 they,

01:04:57.540 they came to my house

01:04:59.460 and they came to the house

01:05:00.500 of the person not far away

01:05:02.160 who faxed it for me

01:05:03.640 because I didn't have

01:05:04.520 a fax machine.

01:05:05.400 There were no computers

01:05:06.360 in my house.

01:05:07.060 There was no notebook.

01:05:07.880 So,

01:05:08.160 so even with this fake arrest,

01:05:09.940 they,

01:05:10.180 they ransacked our house,

01:05:11.980 looked at everything,

01:05:12.800 went to our friend's house,

01:05:13.940 pushed her in a chair,

01:05:15.040 held her there,

01:05:15.720 couldn't find it at all.

01:05:16.940 And,

01:05:17.640 and so,

01:05:18.600 you know,

01:05:19.340 you know,

01:05:20.400 they,

01:05:21.340 you know,

01:05:22.140 they held me in jail

01:05:23.340 until they could plant

01:05:24.720 the evidence,

01:05:25.860 extorted my then

01:05:27.160 73 year old husband.

01:05:29.040 You find it

01:05:29.880 or she never goes home.

01:05:31.200 You find it.

01:05:32.000 We've held,

01:05:32.380 they've held me there

01:05:33.120 without a charge,

01:05:35.000 without a lawyer,

01:05:36.600 without anything

01:05:38.120 for five days

01:05:39.040 trying to Epstein me.

01:05:40.320 You mentioned this,

01:05:41.100 trying to Epstein me,

01:05:42.480 trying to get me

01:05:43.040 to kill myself.

01:05:44.180 You know,

01:05:44.500 you're,

01:05:44.700 you're there

01:05:45.300 trying to figure out

01:05:46.360 what the hell's

01:05:46.920 going on

01:05:47.460 and it's not

01:05:48.040 a pleasant situation.

01:05:49.820 And,

01:05:50.380 and my husband,

01:05:52.240 he can't talk to me.

01:05:53.480 He talks to me once

01:05:54.560 and,

01:05:55.040 and,

01:05:55.260 and you can see

01:05:56.060 through both books

01:05:57.120 how they set

01:05:58.040 this whole thing up.

01:05:59.100 And all I had to do,

01:06:00.220 they had a bail hold.

01:06:01.600 I couldn't even post bail,

01:06:03.040 which was $100,000.

01:06:04.580 I'm not a murderer.

01:06:05.880 I'm not,

01:06:06.280 I don't have $100,000.

01:06:07.780 And the bail bondsman

01:06:08.980 in the first book said,

01:06:10.020 I did this case

01:06:11.680 on a,

01:06:12.500 on a signature

01:06:13.480 because I knew

01:06:14.520 how full of shit it was.

01:06:16.220 I knew innocent people

01:06:18.380 have no idea.

01:06:19.540 They think our system works.

01:06:20.880 They think they have due process.

01:06:22.540 They think they think,

01:06:23.400 and that's exactly what I said.

01:06:24.920 What did Tony Fauci do?

01:06:26.640 Oh,

01:06:27.460 he told,

01:06:28.600 you know,

01:06:28.960 he put a,

01:06:29.720 a warrant out

01:06:31.200 at the NIH.

01:06:33.160 If I step foot

01:06:34.560 on NIH property,

01:06:36.500 I'm a fugitive

01:06:37.760 from justice.

01:06:38.820 that was still

01:06:40.540 at Fort Detrick,

01:06:42.180 November 15th,

01:06:43.480 2016,

01:06:45.060 when I went there.

01:06:47.060 So yes,

01:06:47.960 where was Tony Fauci?

01:06:49.340 He was the puppet master.

01:06:50.940 He was directing the money.

01:06:52.620 He was directing

01:06:53.680 Ian Lipkin

01:06:54.580 to do the now

01:06:55.480 multi-center study

01:06:56.640 because they have

01:06:57.320 a little problem

01:06:58.060 with the blood working group.

01:06:59.520 It's only 16 people.

01:07:00.920 That's not a failure

01:07:02.040 to confirm.

01:07:02.760 That's fraud.

01:07:03.560 And every one

01:07:04.200 of those people

01:07:05.000 should have been finished

01:07:06.080 in their careers

01:07:06.900 on that paper.

01:07:08.600 It actually published

01:07:10.340 November 11th,

01:07:11.460 and I didn't know that

01:07:12.440 until two days ago.

01:07:13.960 I thought it published

01:07:14.840 on September 29th

01:07:16.200 when I was,

01:07:16.900 when I was September 22nd,

01:07:18.800 when I was standing there

01:07:20.020 giving the talk

01:07:21.140 about the paper.

01:07:21.960 So I could see

01:07:22.900 how they carried out

01:07:23.860 that threat

01:07:24.440 from that phone call

01:07:25.480 of September 4th, 2011,

01:07:28.560 from my email

01:07:29.700 of August 31st.

01:07:31.140 So I have a paper trail

01:07:32.920 because I was told once

01:07:34.960 never put anything

01:07:37.080 in the body

01:07:38.040 of an email,

01:07:39.400 put it in an attachment

01:07:40.820 because that's not discoverable.

01:07:42.840 But my training

01:07:44.000 from growing up

01:07:44.880 in Washington, D.C.

01:07:46.980 was the minute

01:07:48.180 he told me that,

01:07:49.240 I asked myself why,

01:07:50.800 and I put everything

01:07:52.580 in the body

01:07:53.520 of an email.

01:07:54.540 So part of what

01:07:55.700 they had to have

01:07:56.520 was all my emails,

01:07:58.040 all my computers,

01:07:59.220 because Tony Fauci

01:08:00.440 wrote the emails.

01:08:02.220 I couldn't fly

01:08:03.140 over NIH airspace.

01:08:07.280 Really?

01:08:08.180 You know,

01:08:08.460 what am I doing,

01:08:09.240 sprinkling virus

01:08:10.260 over Frederick, Maryland,

01:08:12.860 to visit my mother

01:08:13.980 on her 75th birthday?

01:08:17.000 You know, really?

01:08:17.860 So what is the difference

01:08:19.540 between 2011

01:08:20.220 and 2014 event?

01:08:21.440 2014 event is...

01:08:23.480 So 2014,

01:08:25.080 I haven't given up.

01:08:27.020 I'm forced into bankruptcy.

01:08:29.560 Why?

01:08:30.760 So September...

01:08:32.080 So the criminal charges

01:08:33.180 are dropped

01:08:34.140 in the middle of June

01:08:36.520 after I'd proven

01:08:39.120 my innocence

01:08:39.800 on March 12th.

01:08:41.180 The only time

01:08:42.040 I ever talked

01:08:42.760 to a criminal lawyer,

01:08:44.060 I walked through

01:08:44.900 every page

01:08:46.060 of the notebooks

01:08:46.780 and showed exactly

01:08:48.040 the story I'm telling you

01:08:49.540 and proved

01:08:50.900 that the perpetrators

01:08:52.060 of the,

01:08:52.660 you know,

01:08:53.240 the crimes were,

01:08:54.520 you know,

01:08:54.820 these people I'm mentioning.

01:08:56.160 So at any rate,

01:08:56.940 the charges

01:08:59.240 don't get dropped.

01:09:02.680 My lawyer is made

01:09:04.180 into a judge

01:09:05.040 and removed

01:09:05.620 from my case.

01:09:07.200 The judge

01:09:08.280 is proven

01:09:09.120 to have been bought

01:09:10.100 and paid for

01:09:10.880 by the head

01:09:11.480 of our institute.

01:09:13.840 And then

01:09:15.740 he's actually

01:09:16.920 convicted

01:09:17.620 of campaign fraud

01:09:19.260 for Harry Reid

01:09:20.700 and sentenced

01:09:21.960 to something

01:09:22.760 right,

01:09:23.340 you know,

01:09:23.680 right in

01:09:24.440 June of 2012.

01:09:26.940 The charges

01:09:27.700 are dropped

01:09:28.420 without prejudice.

01:09:30.700 And what I'm told

01:09:31.940 is the next time

01:09:33.420 they will kill you

01:09:34.660 and I'm told

01:09:35.880 that I'm not allowed

01:09:37.080 to do Facebook,

01:09:38.200 I'm not allowed

01:09:38.820 to say a word,

01:09:39.960 I'm not allowed

01:09:40.740 to do any kind

01:09:41.700 of social media

01:09:42.560 or talk to anyone

01:09:44.020 until the statute

01:09:45.820 of limitations

01:09:46.700 is up.

01:09:48.200 And so

01:09:48.720 then they're bringing

01:09:49.760 their civil case

01:09:50.980 to a damages hearing

01:09:52.440 that was supposed

01:09:53.480 to be

01:09:54.240 September 4th

01:09:55.980 of 2012.

01:09:58.960 And I go

01:09:59.680 with my

01:10:00.280 bankruptcy lawyer

01:10:01.540 and my,

01:10:02.340 I actually go

01:10:03.320 with my civil lawyer

01:10:04.560 who I name

01:10:05.540 in the book

01:10:06.100 and my criminal lawyer

01:10:07.600 and a bankruptcy lawyer

01:10:09.040 are the same person,

01:10:10.200 David J. Follin

01:10:11.200 here in Ventura.

01:10:12.580 So we went

01:10:13.420 into the office

01:10:14.160 with my husband

01:10:15.200 and my civil lawyer

01:10:18.620 says,

01:10:19.460 you know,

01:10:19.740 I said,

01:10:20.180 okay,

01:10:20.420 I'm ready

01:10:20.840 with my 97 witnesses,

01:10:22.460 which included

01:10:23.720 Tony Fauci

01:10:24.880 in 97 witnesses,

01:10:26.980 the highest level

01:10:28.100 of the government

01:10:28.780 to prove,

01:10:30.180 not only did I not

01:10:31.200 do what you said

01:10:32.000 I did,

01:10:32.560 I did nothing

01:10:33.360 ethically wrong

01:10:34.340 and this was all

01:10:35.140 a big cover up

01:10:35.960 on this.

01:10:36.780 And my lawyer,

01:10:37.780 the civil lawyer

01:10:38.700 said,

01:10:39.300 I won't go.

01:10:41.160 And I said,

01:10:42.580 you know,

01:10:43.180 and he said,

01:10:44.120 do you think

01:10:44.960 if you go

01:10:46.500 and you testify

01:10:47.500 against your employers,

01:10:49.300 these powerful people

01:10:50.340 who,

01:10:50.880 you know,

01:10:51.200 literally bought

01:10:52.020 Harry Reid

01:10:52.620 more than one office

01:10:54.080 in the Senate,

01:10:56.300 I don't think

01:10:56.740 he was ever

01:10:57.200 legally elected.

01:10:58.520 At any rate,

01:10:59.460 scary thought.

01:11:00.800 At any rate,

01:11:01.740 it happened long

01:11:02.700 before I met them

01:11:03.660 in the five years

01:11:05.040 and it probably

01:11:06.100 will go on forever.

01:11:07.580 But at any rate,

01:11:08.680 they,

01:11:10.260 he said,

01:11:11.580 if you go there

01:11:12.980 and you present

01:11:14.260 and you testify

01:11:15.320 and you show

01:11:16.040 everything we know

01:11:17.200 to be true,

01:11:17.960 the minute you step

01:11:19.820 on the courthouse steps,

01:11:21.460 you will be arrested

01:11:22.480 because they will have

01:11:23.620 found no,

01:11:24.620 they will have found

01:11:25.640 new evidence

01:11:26.720 and,

01:11:27.800 and,

01:11:28.900 and,

01:11:29.260 and you'll be jailed

01:11:30.660 in Nevada

01:11:31.320 and you'll never get out.

01:11:33.020 And I said,

01:11:33.600 oh,

01:11:33.720 that's ridiculous.

01:11:34.520 There is no new evidence.

01:11:36.400 And he looked at me

01:11:37.520 and said,

01:11:38.040 there was no evidence

01:11:39.000 the first time

01:11:39.840 was there.

01:11:40.820 And it's,

01:11:41.220 and I still do it

01:11:42.420 to this day.

01:11:43.060 The only time

01:11:44.640 I cried,

01:11:45.960 the only time

01:11:46.960 I cried

01:11:47.440 and I,

01:11:48.300 and,

01:11:48.500 and he said,

01:11:49.040 if you file bankruptcy

01:11:50.720 right now

01:11:51.780 before that hearing,

01:11:53.320 then your,

01:11:55.680 your,

01:11:56.020 the charges,

01:11:57.280 the,

01:11:57.420 the civil case

01:11:58.420 is stayed.

01:11:59.600 So it never goes

01:12:00.840 to a damages part

01:12:02.220 and,

01:12:02.820 and,

01:12:03.140 and your bankruptcy

01:12:04.100 will simply say

01:12:05.140 you lost your grants.

01:12:06.580 It won't say

01:12:07.340 you did anything wrong.

01:12:08.580 There's no,

01:12:09.520 any kind of anything

01:12:10.840 against you ever

01:12:12.080 and you can go out

01:12:13.080 and live your life.

01:12:14.720 And,

01:12:15.360 and,

01:12:17.000 and it was,

01:12:17.960 I did not want

01:12:18.960 to do it.

01:12:19.460 And,

01:12:19.920 you know,

01:12:20.760 and,

01:12:21.040 and then,

01:12:21.860 you know,

01:12:22.320 these powerful people

01:12:23.500 literally create,

01:12:24.920 committed fraud

01:12:26.000 in bankruptcy court

01:12:27.200 and,

01:12:27.800 and,

01:12:28.000 and,

01:12:28.320 and,

01:12:28.640 and said,

01:12:29.560 I owed $15 million

01:12:31.520 and I'd committed

01:12:33.020 intellectual property theft

01:12:34.740 and I'd admitted to it.

01:12:36.100 And they use science,

01:12:37.400 the journal

01:12:37.820 and the other newspapers

01:12:39.160 and they literally

01:12:40.300 fabricated everything

01:12:41.940 as if I turn myself in.

01:12:44.220 I didn't turn myself in.

01:12:45.900 When I was let out of jail,

01:12:47.440 they said,

01:12:48.580 you,

01:12:48.860 you go to Nevada

01:12:50.460 and you get a criminal lawyer

01:12:52.320 or you're going right back

01:12:53.960 to jail

01:12:54.680 and you'll never see David again.

01:12:56.380 And you come up

01:12:57.380 with all of those computers

01:12:58.580 and you come up

01:12:59.380 with all those notebooks

01:13:00.340 and they told David

01:13:01.720 the night before I was let go,

01:13:03.260 the night before Thanksgiving,

01:13:04.860 you don't come up

01:13:05.820 with the notebooks

01:13:06.400 and you'll never see her again.

01:13:07.880 And they conveniently

01:13:08.900 planted them

01:13:09.840 in a linen beach bag

01:13:11.680 in,

01:13:12.280 in an open closet.

01:13:14.180 You know,

01:13:14.420 it's,

01:13:15.080 it was,

01:13:15.520 my house was under construction.

01:13:16.960 We were redoing

01:13:17.640 the master bedroom

01:13:18.500 and there was no closet door.

01:13:20.100 Every other piece of paper

01:13:21.540 was,

01:13:21.940 was strewn across the house

01:13:23.740 and here's a,

01:13:24.820 a beach bag

01:13:25.860 with my initials on it

01:13:27.260 stacked to the top

01:13:28.600 with the folders

01:13:29.280 that were in those

01:13:30.160 two desk drawers.

01:13:31.520 Not two offices,

01:13:33.260 not 30 years.

01:13:34.640 You know,

01:13:34.900 it was planted there

01:13:35.840 and,

01:13:36.200 and again,

01:13:36.680 Michael Hugo

01:13:37.320 proved that

01:13:38.380 in the very little time

01:13:39.920 he had to do discovery.

01:13:41.180 They watched my house,

01:13:42.560 they hunted me down

01:13:43.520 between September

01:13:44.440 and whatever time

01:13:45.580 in November

01:13:46.140 and,

01:13:46.960 and they just fabricated

01:13:48.620 these crimes

01:13:49.380 in other to,

01:13:50.400 in order to shut me down forever.

01:13:52.380 So I'm full on bankrupt.

01:13:54.200 It said I owed

01:13:55.460 15 million dollars

01:13:56.980 when you commit

01:13:57.760 intellectual property theft.

01:13:59.920 You'll never work again,

01:14:01.180 not even at Starbucks,

01:14:03.000 you know,

01:14:03.940 because you'll steal the money.

01:14:05.200 So the director,

01:14:06.300 everything I'd ever had,

01:14:07.920 you know,

01:14:08.820 was lost

01:14:09.600 and,

01:14:10.460 and worse,

01:14:12.160 you know,

01:14:12.980 right after that,

01:14:14.400 you know,

01:14:14.700 they published the fraud

01:14:16.060 that was the multi-center study

01:14:18.100 with Ian Lipkin

01:14:19.400 as the last author

01:14:20.800 that Tony Fauci stopped

01:14:23.220 when against all odds,

01:14:24.940 I'm going through

01:14:25.640 all this in the summer,

01:14:26.860 I'm doing retrovirology

01:14:28.520 by telephone,

01:14:29.620 Frank's not even good enough

01:14:30.820 with a camera

01:14:31.420 to take the picture

01:14:32.440 of the microscope

01:14:33.540 and show me

01:14:34.500 on a computer.

01:14:35.420 We're biologists.

01:14:36.660 And I said,

01:14:37.880 that's what you're looking for.

01:14:38.800 And he's like,

01:14:39.160 this one?

01:14:39.560 And I said,

01:14:39.860 that's what you're looking for.

01:14:40.720 That's what you're looking for.

01:14:42.060 And so,

01:14:42.720 and then we would have

01:14:43.880 gotten them positive.

01:14:45.240 And Fauci stepped in

01:14:46.400 and said,

01:14:47.500 it's contamination.

01:14:48.840 It's all contamination.

01:14:50.680 We're stopping

01:14:51.440 the wasting

01:14:52.180 of government money now

01:14:53.760 as if these patients

01:14:55.280 didn't deserve

01:14:56.080 the entire study

01:14:57.140 to be finished.

01:14:57.940 And then he told Frank

01:14:59.400 that they'd use

01:15:02.360 all the cohorts equally.

01:15:04.060 So it was pretty clear

01:15:05.780 that because they'd done

01:15:06.720 thousands of samples,

01:15:07.820 it was now contamination.

01:15:09.620 Harold Varmus committed fraud

01:15:11.260 because he added

01:15:12.380 the synthetic

01:15:13.120 infectious molecular clone.

01:15:15.160 So that changed

01:15:16.340 the study design

01:15:17.320 because we couldn't

01:15:18.260 do our isolation

01:15:19.440 because the molecular clone

01:15:21.220 grows so much faster,

01:15:23.260 like a hundred times faster

01:15:24.560 than the natural isolate.

01:15:26.080 So we couldn't afford

01:15:27.140 the contamination.

01:15:28.340 So we didn't do

01:15:29.100 that part of the study.

01:15:30.020 And against all odds,

01:15:31.460 it was still positive.

01:15:32.640 He published,

01:15:33.180 they published the paper

01:15:34.360 in September,

01:15:35.580 October of 2012

01:15:37.100 as I'm going through

01:15:38.720 this bankruptcy stuff

01:15:42.780 forced into it

01:15:44.780 and not even knowing

01:15:47.320 what's going on

01:15:48.140 because I can't read a paper.

01:15:50.040 I can't get on the internet.

01:15:51.200 I can't do anything.

01:15:52.300 I have only what

01:15:53.040 Frank Rosetti tells me.

01:15:55.000 They apply the statistics.

01:15:57.060 They publish this paper.

01:15:58.760 Our names are on it

01:15:59.820 because I don't have a choice.

01:16:01.560 They, I'm being told

01:16:02.980 everybody knows there.

01:16:04.480 I was told three times

01:16:05.800 by Ian Lipkin

01:16:06.560 and so was Frank Rosetti

01:16:07.780 and Tony Fauci

01:16:09.180 that everybody knew

01:16:10.680 there were other

01:16:11.840 of these family of viruses

01:16:13.740 in these people,

01:16:15.360 just not that virus.

01:16:17.280 In the patients,

01:16:18.180 just not that sequence.

01:16:19.860 You could only look

01:16:20.760 for that sequence

01:16:21.800 because that's what you said.

01:16:23.060 No, that's not what we said.

01:16:24.420 That's what Bob,

01:16:25.080 so it was,

01:16:25.660 it's this kind of wrangling.

01:16:27.140 And then I said

01:16:29.020 they had a super secret

01:16:30.340 conference call

01:16:31.460 on when the study

01:16:34.060 was unblinded.

01:16:35.320 So you've done like a thousand

01:16:36.620 in each center.

01:16:38.140 You know,

01:16:38.360 we test from each clinical sample

01:16:40.280 and Harvey Alter

01:16:41.820 and Shai Xing Lo,

01:16:42.780 they do their test

01:16:43.660 and we do our test.

01:16:44.900 So when it's unblinded,

01:16:46.480 it's super secret.

01:16:47.340 There are only three men

01:16:48.220 on the phone,

01:16:49.200 Harold Varmus,

01:16:50.440 Francis Collins,

01:16:51.680 and Tony Fauci.

01:16:53.020 And they're on the phone

01:16:54.100 and they say

01:16:54.580 there's no association.

01:16:55.680 And I'm sitting in my car

01:16:57.120 in front of LAX

01:16:58.360 and it's another time

01:16:59.740 when I'm almost crying.

01:17:02.160 And I said,

01:17:03.540 that's okay.

01:17:04.820 There's still 6%

01:17:06.280 in the controls.

01:17:08.100 There was 6% in the patients.

01:17:09.960 There was 6% in the controls.

01:17:12.480 And I said,

01:17:14.000 that's okay.

01:17:14.600 That's still 25 million Americans

01:17:16.720 who we can prevent

01:17:18.040 from ever getting disease.

01:17:19.660 So what did the paper say

01:17:20.980 at the end of the abstract?

01:17:22.360 There was no evidence

01:17:23.620 of infection

01:17:24.240 and clearly table three

01:17:25.760 of that paper

01:17:26.840 shows evidence of infection.

01:17:28.720 So, you know,

01:17:29.460 it was the end of my career.

01:17:31.160 Never heard from Ian Lipkin again

01:17:33.160 who had promised me a job.

01:17:35.160 Within weeks,

01:17:36.500 Tony Fauci awards him

01:17:38.440 $34 million

01:17:39.820 to create a center

01:17:41.980 for discovery

01:17:43.240 and diagnostics.

01:17:45.940 And who did he fund

01:17:47.300 with that money

01:17:48.180 a few years ago?

01:17:49.620 Oh, the North Carolina group

01:17:51.860 working with the Wuhan Chinese

01:17:53.880 looking at coronaviruses

01:17:56.160 as they've done

01:17:57.220 the last 10 years.

01:17:58.540 So Tony Fauci

01:17:59.840 funded the coronavirus studies

01:18:01.800 with Wuhan,

01:18:03.000 with North Carolina,

01:18:04.080 with Switzerland,

01:18:04.660 and Harvard.

01:18:05.580 It's right there

01:18:06.440 in the paper.

01:18:07.100 The cell lines

01:18:07.860 they grew the virus

01:18:08.760 came from Fort Detrick.

01:18:10.140 We know those have HIV

01:18:11.640 in them

01:18:12.140 and God only knows

01:18:13.100 what else.

01:18:15.420 Oh yeah,

01:18:15.800 that one makes me sick.

01:18:16.860 Dr. Judy,

01:18:18.700 question for you.

01:18:19.380 What is the motive

01:18:20.580 behind this?

01:18:21.280 Is it money?

01:18:22.000 Is it big pharma?

01:18:22.980 Is it power?

01:18:24.080 What is it?

01:18:24.780 I mean,

01:18:24.980 what is the real motive

01:18:26.020 behind it?

01:18:27.900 Well,

01:18:28.900 the real motive

01:18:30.100 behind

01:18:30.680 it's

01:18:32.120 all of those things

01:18:33.780 up until 2011

01:18:35.780 and now you've committed

01:18:37.760 crimes against humanity.

01:18:39.840 You know,

01:18:40.020 this is treason.

01:18:41.320 This is,

01:18:41.700 this is,

01:18:42.600 you know,

01:18:43.460 this is,

01:18:44.060 this is prison.

01:18:45.540 This is,

01:18:45.960 this is worse than that.

01:18:47.740 This is cover up.

01:18:49.180 The motive is cover it up.

01:18:50.940 So what are we doing

01:18:51.840 in COVID?

01:18:52.860 Oh,

01:18:53.140 we're burying them

01:18:54.140 without,

01:18:55.040 without,

01:18:55.800 um,

01:18:56.800 any evidence

01:18:57.700 of coronavirus.

01:18:59.480 What if it's

01:19:00.340 XMRV plus coronavirus?

01:19:02.220 That's what all

01:19:02.840 the clinical data suggests

01:19:04.160 because,

01:19:04.720 oh,

01:19:04.780 they have the exact

01:19:05.580 same things.

01:19:06.500 They have the coagulopathies.

01:19:08.460 They have the bleeding disorders.

01:19:10.180 You know,

01:19:10.400 coronaviruses don't cause

01:19:11.600 bleeding disorders.

01:19:12.960 Coronaviruses

01:19:13.760 don't cause heart attacks

01:19:15.080 in postural orthostatic

01:19:16.340 tachycardia.

01:19:17.640 Retroviruses do.

01:19:18.820 These viruses do.

01:19:20.480 You know,

01:19:21.000 um,

01:19:21.420 the motive,

01:19:22.680 cover up.

01:19:23.700 I mean,

01:19:24.320 it's trillions.

01:19:25.920 And,

01:19:26.080 and,

01:19:26.360 and then force everybody

01:19:27.680 to get the vaccines

01:19:28.860 so they can say,

01:19:30.060 you had it all along.

01:19:31.680 Kill them.

01:19:32.420 You're,

01:19:32.640 you're going to kill

01:19:33.820 the people with these viruses.

01:19:35.500 You're going to kill me.

01:19:36.920 You're going to kill my husband.

01:19:38.440 And you're going to bury us

01:19:39.860 and call it COVID

01:19:40.840 if we get a vaccine

01:19:42.420 because we're the ones

01:19:43.880 that,

01:19:44.720 that will respond

01:19:46.100 because we've already

01:19:47.160 been infected

01:19:47.900 with that flame

01:19:49.300 that's so high

01:19:50.320 that it can drive

01:19:51.400 an almost instant

01:19:52.620 heart attack,

01:19:53.380 cardiac arrest,

01:19:54.140 or drive our,

01:19:55.820 uh,

01:19:56.160 the Alzheimer's disease,

01:19:58.020 the,

01:19:58.260 the autism.

01:19:59.300 ME is,

01:20:00.040 um,

01:20:00.500 is a very serious disease,

01:20:02.300 um,

01:20:02.640 where your brain

01:20:03.220 and your muscles

01:20:03.800 can't function.

01:20:04.620 You just literally die.

01:20:06.300 These,

01:20:06.700 with the,

01:20:07.400 it's a mitochondrial disease.

01:20:08.660 These are the people

01:20:09.960 who will die

01:20:11.580 because they're

01:20:12.800 carrying the infection.

01:20:13.920 That's that 25 million

01:20:16.100 in 2011.

01:20:17.360 It's almost 100 million now

01:20:19.460 because we've ramped up

01:20:20.800 the,

01:20:21.100 the vaccine program.

01:20:22.640 We cleaned up the blood supply

01:20:24.100 because I told them how.

01:20:25.420 So the motive is so much

01:20:26.820 more than money.

01:20:27.700 The,

01:20:28.420 the motive is,

01:20:29.380 is,

01:20:29.760 is cover up

01:20:30.560 and kill the victims

01:20:31.560 and make sure nobody

01:20:32.800 ever exhumes them

01:20:33.920 and sees that there really

01:20:35.200 was no evidence

01:20:36.140 of,

01:20:36.580 of that infection

01:20:37.860 in their death.

01:20:38.640 But look what else

01:20:39.460 was here.

01:20:40.120 And,

01:20:40.600 and,

01:20:40.860 and that's the worst thing

01:20:42.280 about this disease.

01:20:44.180 What make them wear masks?

01:20:45.840 I wear a mask.

01:20:46.740 I will die.

01:20:48.080 I will activate

01:20:48.920 my latent viruses,

01:20:50.180 my sleeping viruses,

01:20:51.320 and I will drive

01:20:52.720 the path,

01:20:53.200 a lot pathology

01:20:54.480 in myself.

01:20:55.720 I stress out.

01:20:57.020 I'm afraid.

01:20:57.740 How do I make any money?

01:20:58.720 It doesn't matter.

01:20:59.240 I haven't made,

01:21:00.000 I'm kind of looking forward

01:21:01.100 to that stimulus.

01:21:01.860 I made $2,000

01:21:03.020 in a,

01:21:03.680 in a month

01:21:04.460 in 10 years or so.

01:21:05.960 That would be kind of cool.

01:21:07.200 But at any rate,

01:21:08.040 I mean,

01:21:08.400 I didn't see it

01:21:09.420 in my checking account,

01:21:10.520 but anyway,

01:21:11.100 I don't expect to either.

01:21:12.740 But so,

01:21:13.480 you know,

01:21:13.880 the,

01:21:14.120 you know,

01:21:14.420 the,

01:21:14.780 these people,

01:21:15.680 the people who are most at risk,

01:21:17.900 the last thing they can do

01:21:18.920 is wear a mask.

01:21:19.920 The last thing they can do

01:21:21.040 is stay out of the sunshine.

01:21:22.460 The last thing,

01:21:23.240 because you're going to activate

01:21:24.240 internally

01:21:24.840 and you're going to suppress

01:21:26.840 your immune system

01:21:27.840 and you're going to replicate,

01:21:29.100 you're going to cause that fire

01:21:30.620 to go out of control

01:21:31.660 because you woke up

01:21:32.840 all those sleeping viruses.

01:21:34.760 And,

01:21:34.860 and that's,

01:21:35.520 and,

01:21:35.900 and that's what's,

01:21:37.140 that's what the clinical data support.

01:21:39.220 Most of our patients

01:21:40.340 will use the term air hunger.

01:21:42.620 So using the ventilators

01:21:44.260 is killing people

01:21:45.280 because you have to paralyze them.

01:21:47.700 And,

01:21:48.180 and,

01:21:48.540 you know,

01:21:48.760 in order to put that through the,

01:21:50.440 with fentanyl

01:21:51.160 and other drugs,

01:21:52.020 in order to put that ventilator

01:21:53.880 down their throat,

01:21:54.880 when they're desaturating

01:21:57.060 their oxygen,

01:21:58.060 their,

01:21:58.180 their,

01:21:58.480 their iron is leaving

01:22:00.360 in,

01:22:00.940 in going into the blood.

01:22:02.120 And that adds to the flame.

01:22:03.640 That adds to the signature of disease.

01:22:05.780 We,

01:22:06.220 we published the signature of disease.

01:22:08.280 The signature of disease

01:22:09.520 of chronic fatigue syndrome

01:22:11.160 associated,

01:22:12.360 let's just call it XMRV.

01:22:13.920 That virus,

01:22:14.880 that paper we published

01:22:16.220 in,

01:22:16.580 in the spring of 2011

01:22:18.180 is exactly

01:22:19.620 the one they're calling

01:22:21.000 COVID

01:22:21.740 signature of disease.

01:22:23.420 So what are we really looking at?

01:22:25.780 I think it's the biggest cover up

01:22:27.620 and they,

01:22:28.260 and,

01:22:28.480 and honestly,

01:22:29.320 because of what the last,

01:22:30.340 last chapter of this book says,

01:22:32.100 got to do something.

01:22:32.980 We got all the data folks.

01:22:34.360 You didn't succeed

01:22:35.600 at getting the data.

01:22:37.200 You didn't succeed

01:22:38.380 at getting the samples.

01:22:40.180 Every one of them

01:22:41.200 goes to jail

01:22:42.140 when,

01:22:42.820 when we give,

01:22:44.100 you know,

01:22:44.500 and,

01:22:44.780 and that's the point

01:22:45.880 about 2014.

01:22:47.100 I,

01:22:47.780 I forgot the,

01:22:48.800 I forgot the,

01:22:50.740 the dead man's trigger

01:22:52.380 on the book

01:22:53.080 because that would mean

01:22:54.280 Dr. Frank and I

01:22:55.560 would be killed.

01:22:56.480 What's the dead man's trigger

01:22:57.840 on the book?

01:22:58.560 When Frank was forced

01:22:59.880 into retirement

01:23:00.840 in May of 2014,

01:23:03.900 he brought all

01:23:06.080 of the samples

01:23:06.940 and I mean,

01:23:07.540 he brought all

01:23:08.120 of the paper

01:23:08.720 to my office,

01:23:10.440 I mean,

01:23:11.080 to my house

01:23:11.800 in my apartment

01:23:12.640 in Carlsbad

01:23:13.540 in the big recycling bin.

01:23:15.740 They told him

01:23:16.440 to throw it away

01:23:17.480 and,

01:23:18.280 you know,

01:23:19.140 he threw it

01:23:19.640 in the recycling bin

01:23:20.700 and he was watched

01:23:21.500 by an armed guard

01:23:22.420 in Fort Detrick

01:23:23.940 when he's leaving there

01:23:25.260 and,

01:23:26.560 you know,

01:23:27.940 the armed guard

01:23:28.500 left at five o'clock

01:23:29.620 and Frank never left

01:23:30.640 at five o'clock

01:23:31.340 and he just simply

01:23:32.180 put it in the wrong place.

01:23:33.700 So he knocked on my door

01:23:34.900 in May of 2014

01:23:36.180 and said,

01:23:36.960 I don't know how this shit

01:23:37.820 got in my moving van.

01:23:39.260 I took one look

01:23:40.200 at that recyclable bin

01:23:41.460 and I could see

01:23:42.360 every paper I could see

01:23:43.660 because investigators

01:23:45.280 have to keep

01:23:46.780 a copy

01:23:47.480 of your records

01:23:48.680 of everybody

01:23:49.880 on the project.

01:23:51.240 They took all of mine

01:23:52.940 and they told Frank

01:23:54.500 to William Thompson style

01:23:56.200 destroy the data

01:23:57.600 as they had done

01:23:58.840 all the way back then

01:24:00.000 but Frank knew

01:24:01.100 it was a federal offense

01:24:02.580 so I spent

01:24:03.740 the next three days

01:24:05.140 scanning every bit of it

01:24:06.820 into hard drives

01:24:08.300 and then I made

01:24:10.120 an appointment

01:24:10.640 with David Follin

01:24:11.860 and we called the FBI

01:24:13.500 and we handed them

01:24:15.300 that hard drive

01:24:16.440 and I have the receipt

01:24:17.560 for it.

01:24:18.060 We taped every word

01:24:19.800 of the conversation

01:24:20.980 in 2014

01:24:22.820 I had a lawsuit

01:24:24.720 I had a lawsuit

01:24:26.260 that was under seal

01:24:28.080 the government

01:24:28.980 hasn't decided

01:24:29.860 whether they're going

01:24:30.660 to pick up

01:24:31.240 this whistleblower

01:24:32.220 Key Tam Rico

01:24:33.480 racketeering

01:24:34.220 and conspiracy case

01:24:35.600 and you know

01:24:37.500 again under seal

01:24:39.160 until October

01:24:40.300 of 2019

01:24:42.380 when I gave

01:24:45.180 exactly this talk

01:24:46.540 in 20 quick slides

01:24:48.680 and showed

01:24:49.440 the association

01:24:50.380 with Tony Fauci

01:24:51.740 and everything

01:24:52.600 I just told you today

01:24:54.020 with the Monday

01:24:55.280 after I gave

01:24:56.340 that Friday talk

01:24:57.500 the case was dismissed

01:24:58.840 with prejudice

01:24:59.840 meaning you can't

01:25:01.140 come back again

01:25:02.060 you made it all up

01:25:03.280 for the greater glory

01:25:04.180 of whatever it is

01:25:05.200 in your book

01:25:05.740 so this

01:25:06.740 you know

01:25:07.420 this

01:25:07.860 this was

01:25:09.200 the explosive

01:25:10.620 talk

01:25:11.400 that

01:25:11.760 that really changed

01:25:13.360 everything

01:25:13.840 because people saw it

01:25:15.820 your extensive research

01:25:19.520 with vaccines

01:25:20.760 and everything

01:25:21.480 that you've done

01:25:22.160 and you're seeing

01:25:23.160 a lot of people

01:25:23.820 you know

01:25:24.080 my family

01:25:24.640 have those

01:25:25.180 that are absolutely

01:25:26.080 anti-vaccine

01:25:27.220 I have those

01:25:28.300 who are pro-vaccine

01:25:29.520 I was in the military

01:25:30.300 so you know

01:25:30.700 when you join the military

01:25:31.440 they give you

01:25:31.880 all these shots

01:25:32.460 11 shots

01:25:33.060 on day one

01:25:33.560 because you're

01:25:33.980 military property

01:25:34.960 and we have those

01:25:36.820 that are in the middle

01:25:37.520 you know

01:25:37.960 and you see

01:25:39.200 the stories

01:25:39.960 about vaccine

01:25:40.820 being linked

01:25:41.380 to autism

01:25:42.100 and the business

01:25:44.000 aspect of it

01:25:44.840 behind it

01:25:45.340 can you go into

01:25:46.080 that a little bit

01:25:46.880 when you talk about

01:25:47.740 it in the book

01:25:48.300 with the money part

01:25:49.220 of what

01:25:50.340 how much autism

01:25:51.520 makes

01:25:52.140 and how much

01:25:53.020 it costs for a kid

01:25:53.900 from the moment

01:25:54.680 they have it

01:25:55.180 to 18 years old

01:25:56.180 yeah yeah

01:25:56.700 it costs literally

01:25:57.580 millions of dollars

01:25:58.640 to take care

01:25:59.700 of them

01:26:00.240 it had

01:26:00.960 you know

01:26:01.260 each

01:26:01.600 and that would be

01:26:02.320 the cost

01:26:02.900 on the government

01:26:03.720 because

01:26:04.420 they unwittingly

01:26:06.000 caused it

01:26:06.620 if you will

01:26:07.180 because it was

01:26:08.020 unwitting

01:26:08.640 until

01:26:09.280 really recent

01:26:10.520 recent events

01:26:11.480 as we see

01:26:12.220 more and more

01:26:12.860 research on

01:26:13.620 how these things

01:26:14.560 can happen

01:26:15.100 and that was

01:26:16.020 the benefit

01:26:16.660 of us

01:26:17.120 working in

01:26:17.840 vaccine court

01:26:18.620 well in vaccine

01:26:19.660 court

01:26:20.100 all they have

01:26:21.180 to pay

01:26:21.600 per case

01:26:22.300 of say

01:26:22.740 SIDS death

01:26:23.640 or the damage

01:26:24.780 of Gardasil

01:26:25.440 or even autism

01:26:27.480 is $250,000

01:26:29.420 so when you

01:26:30.080 kill somebody

01:26:30.880 a life

01:26:31.380 is $250,000

01:26:33.000 but the cost

01:26:34.820 of taking care

01:26:35.700 of some of

01:26:36.220 these severely

01:26:36.960 injured kids

01:26:37.980 would be

01:26:38.620 in the tens

01:26:39.180 of millions

01:26:39.640 they need

01:26:40.120 they need

01:26:40.680 around the

01:26:41.300 clock

01:26:41.560 caretakers

01:26:42.440 you know

01:26:43.120 because they

01:26:43.740 they escape

01:26:44.800 they run

01:26:45.460 they hurt

01:26:45.940 they don't

01:26:46.300 know what

01:26:46.600 they're doing

01:26:47.020 they have

01:26:47.520 superhuman

01:26:48.060 strength

01:26:48.420 the biology

01:26:49.880 of it

01:26:50.260 is simply

01:26:50.840 astounding

01:26:52.260 and that's

01:26:54.700 that would

01:26:55.120 break the bank

01:26:56.120 so it's not

01:26:57.020 just autism

01:26:57.940 but the ITP

01:26:59.160 so that's

01:27:00.200 a fatal

01:27:01.140 blood disease

01:27:01.800 so ITP

01:27:03.200 is a fatal

01:27:04.260 blood disease

01:27:04.900 a bleeding

01:27:05.320 disorder

01:27:05.880 and we're

01:27:06.580 even seeing

01:27:07.200 as I mentioned

01:27:07.960 ITP

01:27:08.680 and other

01:27:09.060 blood diseases

01:27:09.800 attributed

01:27:11.360 to COVID

01:27:12.120 so you know

01:27:13.120 the money

01:27:13.660 is in the

01:27:14.300 trillions

01:27:14.820 and I can't

01:27:15.960 even estimate

01:27:16.600 that because

01:27:17.460 but again

01:27:18.760 in just

01:27:19.360 vaccine court

01:27:20.520 alone

01:27:21.020 there was

01:27:21.920 fraud

01:27:22.380 committed

01:27:22.900 in the

01:27:23.440 3000 or so

01:27:24.460 it's called

01:27:24.880 the ombudsman

01:27:25.760 case

01:27:26.220 and we went

01:27:27.200 through it

01:27:27.560 in great

01:27:27.940 detail

01:27:28.760 in the book

01:27:30.080 giving a couple

01:27:33.660 chapter for that book

01:27:35.120 it's called

01:27:35.520 My Stolen Identity

01:27:36.920 and so how

01:27:37.840 these courts

01:27:38.760 literally

01:27:40.080 kept the case

01:27:41.760 that would have

01:27:42.400 proved

01:27:42.900 these 3000

01:27:44.160 cases back

01:27:45.220 15 or 20

01:27:46.140 years ago

01:27:46.900 that if

01:27:48.580 one case

01:27:49.380 so they do

01:27:49.880 five test

01:27:50.640 cases

01:27:51.100 and if

01:27:51.700 one case

01:27:52.640 turns out

01:27:53.460 that the

01:27:53.800 vaccine

01:27:54.260 did cause

01:27:55.060 the autism

01:27:55.820 in that

01:27:56.700 child

01:27:57.180 everybody

01:27:58.020 gets paid

01:27:58.740 off

01:27:59.020 everybody

01:27:59.920 gets paid

01:28:00.680 that then

01:28:01.640 would have

01:28:02.000 broken the

01:28:02.480 program

01:28:02.880 and ended

01:28:03.480 the vaccine

01:28:04.040 program

01:28:04.580 as we knew

01:28:05.080 it

01:28:05.220 and it

01:28:05.700 was at

01:28:06.020 least

01:28:06.660 2005

01:28:07.960 I'm not

01:28:08.660 even sure

01:28:09.300 when it

01:28:09.640 was

01:28:09.800 but that's

01:28:10.300 what

01:28:10.560 Bobby

01:28:10.920 Kennedy

01:28:11.280 knew

01:28:11.580 so that's

01:28:12.280 what

01:28:12.480 you know

01:28:12.920 and the

01:28:13.360 lawyers

01:28:13.780 that I

01:28:14.240 worked

01:28:14.580 for

01:28:14.980 in the

01:28:15.660 vaccine

01:28:16.120 court

01:28:16.460 so I

01:28:17.020 looked

01:28:17.380 because I

01:28:17.980 wanted to

01:28:18.480 see the

01:28:18.900 cytokine

01:28:19.400 storms

01:28:19.840 and you

01:28:20.400 see them

01:28:20.800 over and

01:28:21.500 over and

01:28:22.080 over again

01:28:22.760 being why

01:28:23.960 a person

01:28:24.580 is susceptible

01:28:25.320 and again

01:28:26.340 the complexity

01:28:27.560 of the

01:28:28.100 ingredients

01:28:28.620 in the

01:28:29.140 vaccine

01:28:29.660 alone

01:28:30.120 which

01:28:30.840 nobody's

01:28:31.940 ever tested

01:28:32.500 them

01:28:32.660 no safety

01:28:33.300 tests

01:28:33.720 for 36

01:28:35.080 years

01:28:35.780 I see

01:28:36.680 numbers

01:28:37.020 here that

01:28:37.340 it says

01:28:37.560 it costs

01:28:37.920 $3 million

01:28:38.520 for the

01:28:39.740 lifetime cost

01:28:40.520 of a child

01:28:41.060 that's autistic

01:28:41.940 $3 million

01:28:42.560 and currently

01:28:44.880 1 in 54

01:28:46.600 child in

01:28:47.160 America

01:28:47.520 has autism

01:28:48.560 74 million

01:28:49.820 children in

01:28:50.440 America

01:28:50.860 if you take

01:28:52.020 3 million

01:28:52.860 times 1.4

01:28:54.220 million children

01:28:55.040 that's

01:28:55.440 $4.2

01:28:56.140 trillion

01:28:56.440 that's

01:28:57.880 $233

01:28:58.740 billion

01:28:59.160 a year

01:28:59.800 on cost

01:29:00.500 is that

01:29:01.840 a form

01:29:02.260 of business

01:29:02.840 for big

01:29:03.280 pharma

01:29:03.600 or who

01:29:04.140 makes that

01:29:04.940 money

01:29:05.300 right now

01:29:06.500 the families

01:29:07.680 take that

01:29:09.160 burden

01:29:09.480 it should

01:29:10.520 be

01:29:10.760 the families

01:29:11.360 don't have

01:29:11.920 medicare

01:29:12.360 their kids

01:29:13.520 aren't

01:29:14.600 you know

01:29:15.440 their kids

01:29:15.800 taking that

01:29:16.600 burden

01:29:16.960 yes the

01:29:17.760 family takes

01:29:18.440 that burden

01:29:18.920 the schools

01:29:20.660 take that

01:29:21.240 burden

01:29:21.600 the taxpayers

01:29:22.560 take that

01:29:23.320 burden

01:29:23.660 as the

01:29:24.080 taxpayers

01:29:24.600 pay that

01:29:25.300 court

01:29:25.680 fee

01:29:26.100 so then

01:29:28.700 you hear

01:29:29.160 about the

01:29:29.600 national

01:29:29.940 childhood

01:29:30.400 vaccine

01:29:30.920 injury

01:29:31.300 act

01:29:31.580 of 1986

01:29:32.320 it sounds

01:29:33.400 like it

01:29:33.920 protects

01:29:34.680 the child

01:29:36.120 but the

01:29:37.480 way it's

01:29:37.940 worded

01:29:38.380 it sounds

01:29:38.980 like it

01:29:39.280 protects

01:29:39.620 the child

01:29:39.900 but it's

01:29:40.140 the complete

01:29:40.480 opposite

01:29:40.940 correct

01:29:41.680 how does

01:29:42.280 that work

01:29:42.820 it's because

01:29:43.720 of the

01:29:44.080 corruption

01:29:44.440 of the

01:29:44.840 court

01:29:45.100 it was

01:29:45.820 intended

01:29:46.560 to protect

01:29:48.120 the child

01:29:48.840 but things

01:29:49.820 like the

01:29:50.580 ombudsman

01:29:51.440 things

01:29:51.720 it was

01:29:52.060 intended

01:29:52.580 to bring

01:29:53.580 a quick

01:29:54.160 release

01:29:54.700 because

01:29:55.100 and that's

01:29:55.580 what you'll

01:29:55.940 read from

01:29:56.460 from Michael

01:29:57.300 Hugo

01:29:57.680 you know

01:29:58.360 when they

01:29:58.780 were doing

01:29:59.280 these DTP

01:30:00.240 cases

01:30:00.860 back in the

01:30:01.780 back in the

01:30:02.540 70s and

01:30:03.260 80s

01:30:03.720 they would

01:30:04.280 string them

01:30:04.860 out until

01:30:05.380 the family

01:30:05.920 simply couldn't

01:30:06.760 afford it

01:30:07.240 anymore

01:30:07.540 and you're

01:30:07.840 trying to

01:30:08.240 take care

01:30:08.700 of this

01:30:09.060 massively

01:30:09.920 injured

01:30:10.320 child

01:30:10.780 in

01:30:10.960 wheelchair

01:30:11.600 drooling

01:30:12.280 the brain

01:30:12.840 injury

01:30:13.180 the seizures

01:30:13.800 you're trying

01:30:14.540 to find

01:30:14.920 anything

01:30:15.360 to help

01:30:15.800 your

01:30:15.920 kill

01:30:16.120 you

01:30:16.320 can't

01:30:16.900 keep

01:30:17.140 your

01:30:17.300 job

01:30:17.660 you've

01:30:17.900 got to

01:30:18.160 stay

01:30:18.380 home

01:30:18.600 and take

01:30:19.000 care

01:30:19.260 of

01:30:19.400 them

01:30:19.520 you can't

01:30:20.260 educate

01:30:20.620 them

01:30:20.960 because

01:30:21.180 they're

01:30:21.400 dangerous

01:30:21.860 in school

01:30:22.500 to themselves

01:30:23.100 and to

01:30:23.760 others

01:30:24.160 yeah

01:30:24.720 and so

01:30:25.820 the court

01:30:27.720 became corrupted

01:30:28.680 and that's

01:30:29.580 that chapter

01:30:30.300 called

01:30:30.700 stolen identity

01:30:31.580 and I said

01:30:32.340 I said

01:30:33.240 in a recent

01:30:34.260 talk

01:30:34.640 I believe

01:30:35.300 it was

01:30:35.780 with Thomas

01:30:37.380 Payne

01:30:37.720 the pundit

01:30:38.300 a few weeks

01:30:38.920 ago

01:30:39.280 and I said

01:30:40.420 it in the

01:30:40.880 book

01:30:41.160 you know

01:30:41.700 I saw

01:30:42.260 a lot

01:30:42.620 of evil

01:30:43.000 as we

01:30:43.420 just heard

01:30:44.000 in the

01:30:44.320 last hour

01:30:45.040 or so

01:30:45.540 and nothing

01:30:47.000 compared to

01:30:48.020 what I saw

01:30:48.580 in this

01:30:48.900 court

01:30:49.180 I mean

01:30:49.840 Frank

01:30:50.180 Cresetti

01:30:50.500 said

01:30:50.740 I can't

01:30:51.220 do it

01:30:51.520 anymore

01:30:51.860 Judy

01:30:52.140 this is

01:30:52.600 killing

01:30:52.880 me

01:30:53.060 so all

01:30:53.460 we were

01:30:53.880 doing

01:30:54.260 is we

01:30:54.960 were

01:30:55.140 expert

01:30:55.620 witnesses

01:30:56.120 and I'd

01:30:56.900 see these

01:30:57.400 innocent

01:30:57.820 patients

01:30:58.480 were following

01:30:59.160 the medical

01:30:59.780 record

01:31:00.200 like a

01:31:00.740 murder

01:31:01.180 mystery

01:31:01.600 of how

01:31:01.960 the kid

01:31:02.340 gets hurt

01:31:02.940 and you know

01:31:03.580 I'm looking

01:31:04.020 like this

01:31:04.760 like it's

01:31:05.420 Alfred

01:31:05.700 Chekhov

01:31:06.060 please don't

01:31:06.940 give him

01:31:07.240 another shot

01:31:07.860 and the doctor

01:31:08.460 assures him

01:31:09.040 no it

01:31:09.500 didn't happen

01:31:10.060 no it

01:31:10.720 didn't

01:31:10.920 happen

01:31:11.160 it has

01:31:11.680 nothing

01:31:12.080 to do

01:31:12.440 with it

01:31:12.700 it's

01:31:12.900 coincidence

01:31:13.400 and the

01:31:14.380 parent

01:31:14.800 if the

01:31:15.240 parent

01:31:15.560 is

01:31:15.800 bullied

01:31:16.220 you know

01:31:17.020 you know

01:31:18.060 and that's

01:31:19.120 the end

01:31:19.600 of their

01:31:19.900 child's

01:31:20.480 life

01:31:20.800 and literally

01:31:21.740 in some

01:31:22.280 cases

01:31:22.700 their lineage

01:31:23.540 these kids

01:31:24.240 can't have

01:31:24.720 kids

01:31:25.080 these kids

01:31:25.840 you know

01:31:26.100 that's the

01:31:26.580 end of

01:31:27.200 of whole

01:31:28.180 families

01:31:28.740 and

01:31:29.560 in one

01:31:31.700 of the

01:31:32.300 cases

01:31:32.660 that we

01:31:33.440 were doing

01:31:33.880 and it's

01:31:34.380 really

01:31:34.900 tough for me

01:31:36.280 they blame

01:31:38.400 the families

01:31:39.240 and one

01:31:40.600 little girl

01:31:41.080 developed seizures

01:31:42.040 after a

01:31:42.720 Gardasil

01:31:43.100 shot

01:31:43.700 and they

01:31:44.460 said she

01:31:44.920 had a

01:31:45.380 family history

01:31:46.540 of seizures

01:31:47.880 and oh

01:31:48.840 by the

01:31:49.120 way

01:31:49.260 the mother

01:31:49.760 you know

01:31:50.320 was a

01:31:50.660 druggie

01:31:51.060 and whatever

01:31:51.480 else they

01:31:51.960 try to say

01:31:52.560 to these

01:31:52.880 families

01:31:53.360 and at

01:31:55.060 the end

01:31:55.520 of our

01:31:55.880 expert

01:31:56.380 report

01:31:57.020 they wrote

01:31:58.240 on her

01:31:58.580 death

01:31:58.840 certificate

01:31:59.480 natural

01:32:00.120 causes

01:32:00.660 they almost

01:32:01.640 got her

01:32:02.100 well

01:32:02.380 after the

01:32:02.900 first shot

01:32:03.520 started

01:32:03.960 the seizures

01:32:04.560 and severe

01:32:05.240 seizures

01:32:05.660 and she

01:32:06.380 got fat

01:32:07.100 and she

01:32:07.440 had to

01:32:07.720 take the

01:32:08.080 drugs

01:32:08.440 and so

01:32:09.280 she

01:32:09.920 you know

01:32:10.700 she

01:32:10.900 stopped

01:32:11.380 the seizures

01:32:11.860 the drugs

01:32:12.400 eventually

01:32:12.860 got control

01:32:13.580 of the

01:32:13.840 situation

01:32:14.400 and they

01:32:15.020 said okay

01:32:15.440 she's

01:32:16.100 well

01:32:16.440 give her

01:32:17.620 the second

01:32:18.120 shot

01:32:18.620 and they

01:32:20.180 killed her

01:32:20.560 she died

01:32:21.100 in her

01:32:21.400 sleep

01:32:21.740 and they

01:32:22.580 wrote

01:32:23.120 natural

01:32:23.720 causes

01:32:24.220 and I

01:32:25.520 wrote in

01:32:26.020 our report

01:32:26.820 the causation

01:32:28.160 as I

01:32:28.600 walked

01:32:28.920 through

01:32:29.200 the disease

01:32:31.120 process

01:32:31.820 biological

01:32:32.540 and the

01:32:34.140 last line

01:32:34.920 was

01:32:35.360 you know

01:32:36.120 her grandfather

01:32:38.220 went to

01:32:39.380 her funeral

01:32:40.060 it's not

01:32:40.860 natural

01:32:41.360 causes

01:32:41.800 this is

01:32:42.460 not the

01:32:42.900 natural

01:32:43.480 progression

01:32:44.160 of her

01:32:44.780 seizure

01:32:45.300 disorder

01:32:45.920 she didn't

01:32:46.780 have a

01:32:47.580 seizure

01:32:47.840 disorder

01:32:48.360 till that

01:32:49.000 shot

01:32:49.380 just

01:32:50.000 because

01:32:50.440 we have

01:32:50.860 genetic

01:32:51.260 susceptibilities

01:32:52.220 and these

01:32:52.760 diseases

01:32:53.220 are in

01:32:53.640 our

01:32:53.840 family

01:32:54.420 somewhere

01:32:55.100 does it

01:32:55.980 mean we

01:32:56.440 have to

01:32:56.940 die of

01:32:57.560 that

01:32:57.780 disease

01:32:58.180 and that's

01:32:59.120 really

01:32:59.680 I mean

01:33:00.140 over and

01:33:01.060 over again

01:33:01.560 this court

01:33:02.120 nothing about

01:33:03.140 it I mean

01:33:03.580 it's not a

01:33:04.680 court because

01:33:05.420 there's no

01:33:05.960 discovery

01:33:06.680 the vaccine

01:33:07.620 is considered

01:33:08.640 innocent

01:33:10.280 at all

01:33:11.800 costs

01:33:12.380 and the

01:33:13.220 families that

01:33:14.040 brave the

01:33:14.640 court are

01:33:15.220 just astounded

01:33:16.480 by well

01:33:17.400 wait a minute

01:33:17.940 we didn't do

01:33:19.580 anything wrong

01:33:20.200 we just

01:33:20.560 our child

01:33:21.200 is sick

01:33:21.700 what they

01:33:22.340 do to

01:33:22.860 those families

01:33:23.680 and those

01:33:24.160 children

01:33:24.560 and those

01:33:25.020 people in

01:33:25.800 this courtroom

01:33:26.480 I can only

01:33:28.600 take my hats

01:33:29.360 off to the

01:33:29.920 few who have

01:33:30.720 stuck it out

01:33:31.480 and at least

01:33:32.880 won and

01:33:33.840 helped others

01:33:34.860 because we

01:33:35.520 can see

01:33:36.540 and we can

01:33:37.080 prevent the

01:33:37.680 injury

01:33:38.000 that's the

01:33:38.500 only reason

01:33:39.000 I do it

01:33:39.520 as a

01:33:40.460 research

01:33:41.800 scientist

01:33:42.360 because I

01:33:42.840 just

01:33:43.080 we go in

01:33:43.900 and the

01:33:44.360 people

01:33:44.680 our lawyers

01:33:45.840 say Judy

01:33:46.380 will you

01:33:46.660 call the

01:33:47.020 family

01:33:47.340 and give

01:33:47.680 them some

01:33:48.020 help

01:33:48.300 because I

01:33:49.000 know the

01:33:49.360 natural

01:33:49.680 products

01:33:50.140 and the

01:33:50.440 drugs

01:33:50.760 that can

01:33:51.160 at least

01:33:51.500 stop the

01:33:51.940 progression

01:33:52.340 of the

01:33:53.100 disease

01:33:53.540 question

01:33:55.480 question for

01:33:56.040 you

01:33:56.200 what do you

01:33:56.720 say to

01:33:57.020 those that

01:33:57.520 say there's

01:33:58.140 a there's

01:33:58.940 something going

01:33:59.780 on with

01:34:00.060 depopulation

01:34:00.680 there's a

01:34:01.060 motive behind

01:34:01.680 the scenes

01:34:02.200 that someone's

01:34:02.800 trying to

01:34:03.080 depopulate

01:34:03.740 someone's

01:34:04.300 trying to

01:34:04.600 reduce

01:34:04.860 population

01:34:05.380 growth

01:34:05.660 do you

01:34:05.920 subscribe

01:34:06.260 to any

01:34:06.580 of that

01:34:06.920 no I

01:34:08.700 mean I

01:34:09.500 I didn't

01:34:11.200 before this

01:34:12.340 but but as

01:34:13.260 I see the

01:34:14.020 the number

01:34:14.840 of kids

01:34:15.420 that are

01:34:15.820 that are

01:34:16.220 I've learned

01:34:16.900 some of the

01:34:17.400 recent data

01:34:18.020 about kids

01:34:18.780 that are

01:34:19.200 sterilized

01:34:19.980 from Gardasil

01:34:20.640 and so

01:34:21.920 you know

01:34:22.980 you have to

01:34:23.860 look at

01:34:24.680 you know

01:34:25.680 I'm I'm

01:34:26.540 not that

01:34:26.980 person that

01:34:27.680 says you

01:34:28.220 know I'm

01:34:28.500 I'm just

01:34:28.940 a scientist

01:34:29.560 I don't

01:34:31.340 need conspiracy

01:34:32.200 theories it's

01:34:32.980 just not me

01:34:33.720 that's that

01:34:34.420 actually gives

01:34:35.840 you credibility

01:34:36.500 because you're

01:34:37.180 not jumping

01:34:37.640 on anything

01:34:38.160 that anybody

01:34:38.780 else saying

01:34:39.320 and you're

01:34:39.800 just kind

01:34:40.220 of a telling

01:34:41.140 us that you're

01:34:42.160 a scientist

01:34:42.660 and that's

01:34:43.100 your specialty

01:34:43.620 that's what

01:34:44.080 you're mainly

01:34:45.300 focused on

01:34:45.960 so with today

01:34:47.100 with coronavirus

01:34:47.800 that we're going

01:34:48.420 through three

01:34:49.200 questions that

01:34:49.900 some of the

01:34:50.300 people that

01:34:50.680 are close

01:34:51.060 to me ask

01:34:51.620 so we know

01:34:52.620 we have

01:34:53.000 some kind

01:34:53.480 of a we

01:34:54.240 we have

01:34:54.740 the cure

01:34:57.320 for AIDS

01:34:58.940 whether it's

01:34:59.500 a cure

01:34:59.880 if it's a

01:35:00.460 method of at

01:35:01.060 least working

01:35:01.600 against it

01:35:02.240 cancer

01:35:03.320 coronavirus

01:35:04.480 if you

01:35:05.540 yourself

01:35:06.040 right now

01:35:06.620 God forbid

01:35:07.240 you yourself

01:35:07.840 got coronavirus

01:35:08.540 how are you

01:35:09.800 going to treat

01:35:10.320 yourself

01:35:10.820 you know

01:35:11.260 if you were

01:35:11.980 it's Dr. Judy

01:35:13.520 you go you find

01:35:14.860 out you have

01:35:15.160 coronavirus

01:35:15.580 how would you

01:35:16.060 cure yourself

01:35:16.660 well that's

01:35:17.420 easy I already

01:35:18.220 did it

01:35:18.760 type 1

01:35:19.460 interferon

01:35:20.100 type 1

01:35:21.540 interferon

01:35:22.280 a spray

01:35:22.840 in my mouth

01:35:24.040 I'm preventing

01:35:24.680 it I'm not

01:35:25.380 just I told

01:35:26.120 you if I get

01:35:26.820 it I'm one

01:35:27.300 of the ones

01:35:27.720 who can get

01:35:28.200 most severely

01:35:28.920 ill because

01:35:29.960 I have these

01:35:30.480 other issues

01:35:31.060 from the viruses

01:35:31.880 they gave me

01:35:32.840 at any rate

01:35:34.200 I use a

01:35:34.900 type 1

01:35:35.320 interferon

01:35:35.940 spray

01:35:36.300 very very

01:35:36.960 low dose

01:35:37.640 that very

01:35:38.440 thing I

01:35:38.980 made I

01:35:39.660 learned of

01:35:40.280 March 31st

01:35:41.300 1980 my

01:35:42.100 very first

01:35:42.800 job it

01:35:43.600 cost pennies

01:35:44.360 to the dollar

01:35:45.040 I prevent

01:35:45.980 with with

01:35:46.840 zinc I

01:35:47.680 would I

01:35:48.120 would be

01:35:48.560 getting a

01:35:49.460 prescription

01:35:50.080 for the

01:35:51.180 hydroxychloroquine

01:35:52.340 I would be

01:35:53.220 doing all the

01:35:54.060 things that I

01:35:54.820 always do

01:35:55.280 prevent that

01:35:56.140 cytokine storm

01:35:57.040 make sure I'm

01:35:58.080 not eating

01:35:58.620 GMO

01:35:59.960 roundup

01:36:00.660 glyphosate

01:36:01.400 because that's

01:36:02.180 depleting your

01:36:02.940 oxygen and we

01:36:03.840 don't want to

01:36:04.300 deplete our

01:36:04.980 oxygen I

01:36:05.800 would stay

01:36:06.220 off plane

01:36:06.820 simply because

01:36:07.660 of the oxidative

01:36:08.660 stress over

01:36:09.780 ozone layers I

01:36:11.180 would drink

01:36:11.700 natural products

01:36:12.680 juices which I

01:36:13.640 carry with me

01:36:14.400 should I have

01:36:15.020 to travel because

01:36:16.460 because I can

01:36:17.480 have those

01:36:17.940 things so I

01:36:18.920 would prevent

01:36:19.440 the the

01:36:20.200 disease development

01:36:21.460 even if I got

01:36:22.440 the infection

01:36:23.100 what do you

01:36:24.200 what do you

01:36:24.540 say about

01:36:24.960 folks I

01:36:25.640 heard a doctor

01:36:26.280 the other day

01:36:26.760 talk about

01:36:27.820 zinc and

01:36:28.820 then he

01:36:29.040 talked about

01:36:29.620 quinine and

01:36:30.500 then he

01:36:30.720 talked about

01:36:31.080 tonic water

01:36:31.720 what do you

01:36:32.180 have to say

01:36:32.580 about that

01:36:33.040 well quinine

01:36:34.240 is the

01:36:34.860 is the

01:36:35.440 basis

01:36:35.900 the

01:36:36.360 quinolones

01:36:38.860 the quinine

01:36:39.560 that's what

01:36:40.380 hydroxychloroquine

01:36:41.540 the plaquenil

01:36:42.840 these anti-malarial

01:36:44.060 drugs were

01:36:45.140 originally

01:36:46.240 quinine based

01:36:47.440 so

01:36:48.700 you know

01:36:49.880 so yeah

01:36:50.540 I you know

01:36:51.320 tonic water

01:36:52.120 quinine

01:36:52.820 I use liver

01:36:53.640 bitters and

01:36:54.260 things like that

01:36:55.000 so these are

01:36:55.840 very valuable

01:36:56.860 nutritional therapies

01:36:58.380 and again I

01:36:59.760 use a hot

01:37:00.480 lemon water

01:37:01.220 because it's

01:37:02.360 breathing in

01:37:03.640 the lemon

01:37:04.100 the vitamin

01:37:04.680 c you can

01:37:05.760 kill in your

01:37:06.500 nasal passages

01:37:07.420 if you heat

01:37:08.140 it up

01:37:08.420 I use

01:37:09.100 eucalyptus

01:37:09.800 on a

01:37:11.040 vaporizer

01:37:12.400 so I just

01:37:13.100 vaporize

01:37:13.540 open up my

01:37:14.380 lungs

01:37:14.740 you know

01:37:15.160 we used to

01:37:15.740 do this

01:37:16.160 as kids

01:37:16.560 so just

01:37:17.260 enable myself

01:37:18.200 to breathe

01:37:18.920 support my

01:37:19.960 immune system

01:37:20.800 with you know

01:37:21.520 we know zinc

01:37:22.460 has many

01:37:23.000 antiviral

01:37:23.700 properties

01:37:24.240 and with the

01:37:25.080 hydroxychloroquine

01:37:26.180 it opens up

01:37:27.240 the channels

01:37:27.820 so the zinc

01:37:28.520 can get in

01:37:29.240 and so you

01:37:30.040 can use

01:37:30.440 low dose

01:37:30.920 zinc

01:37:31.160 and things

01:37:31.600 like that

01:37:32.020 you don't

01:37:32.340 want to use

01:37:32.760 high dose

01:37:33.200 of anything

01:37:33.660 I don't

01:37:34.240 necessarily

01:37:34.800 ascribe to

01:37:35.500 some of

01:37:35.860 the things

01:37:36.320 like intravenous

01:37:37.700 you know

01:37:38.180 vitamin c

01:37:38.920 that can be

01:37:39.420 quite toxic

01:37:40.140 and again

01:37:41.100 there's a

01:37:41.520 whole landscape

01:37:42.180 of whatever's

01:37:42.980 going on

01:37:43.420 so just

01:37:43.800 low low dose

01:37:44.640 nutritional

01:37:45.420 therapies

01:37:45.960 I don't

01:37:46.480 eat GMO

01:37:47.220 I eat

01:37:47.620 healthy eggs

01:37:48.480 I keep

01:37:49.920 myself out

01:37:50.720 in the sunshine

01:37:51.360 with natural

01:37:52.300 vitamin d

01:37:53.120 I just

01:37:54.380 prevent

01:37:54.740 and I

01:37:55.280 will not

01:37:55.900 wear a mask

01:37:56.540 and no

01:37:58.640 because that'll

01:37:59.400 suppress my

01:38:00.420 own immune

01:38:00.800 system

01:38:01.160 you're not

01:38:01.800 made to

01:38:02.360 breathe

01:38:03.020 dirty air

01:38:03.740 you know

01:38:04.420 I'm not

01:38:04.960 coughing right

01:38:05.780 now

01:38:06.180 I'm not

01:38:07.320 coughing right

01:38:08.040 now

01:38:08.300 so I do

01:38:10.020 have childhood

01:38:10.720 pleurisy

01:38:11.280 so I am

01:38:11.980 susceptible

01:38:12.540 but I'm not

01:38:14.260 and pleurisy

01:38:15.080 means fluid

01:38:15.700 in the lungs

01:38:16.260 so I'm

01:38:17.700 amplifying

01:38:18.700 any coronavirus

01:38:19.620 infection

01:38:20.360 should I get

01:38:20.940 infection

01:38:21.380 because it

01:38:21.960 needs fluid

01:38:22.540 to live

01:38:23.100 and it's

01:38:24.160 that dry

01:38:24.700 cough

01:38:25.100 and things

01:38:25.480 like that

01:38:25.820 but I'm

01:38:26.160 not coughing

01:38:26.760 so I can't

01:38:27.660 possibly

01:38:28.220 spread the

01:38:28.840 virus

01:38:29.200 these viruses

01:38:30.100 live

01:38:30.500 when you

01:38:30.840 say

01:38:31.060 aerosolize

01:38:31.900 they live

01:38:32.320 in water

01:38:32.860 droplets

01:38:33.440 you know

01:38:34.100 dry air

01:38:34.640 is not

01:38:35.000 water

01:38:35.340 droplets

01:38:35.840 you know

01:38:36.500 yes

01:38:37.240 if you

01:38:37.560 cough

01:38:37.880 or sneeze

01:38:38.460 a tiny

01:38:39.580 little

01:38:39.860 droplet

01:38:40.300 containing

01:38:40.860 virus

01:38:41.480 can go

01:38:42.220 this is

01:38:42.700 how we

01:38:43.140 transmit

01:38:43.900 things

01:38:44.380 like

01:38:44.640 influenza

01:38:45.080 every year

01:38:46.120 but I

01:38:47.360 certainly

01:38:47.840 wouldn't

01:38:48.320 get a

01:38:48.700 vaccine

01:38:49.240 of live

01:38:49.980 flu

01:38:50.260 viruses

01:38:50.740 which cause

01:38:51.400 upper

01:38:51.700 respiratory

01:38:52.200 infections

01:38:52.520 infections

01:38:53.020 and then

01:38:53.720 put on

01:38:54.160 a mask

01:38:54.720 and amplify

01:38:55.360 that

01:38:55.880 those live

01:38:56.900 attenuated

01:38:57.820 flu

01:38:58.240 viruses

01:38:58.920 and cripple

01:38:59.960 my immune

01:39:00.480 system

01:39:00.900 that needs

01:39:01.420 to respond

01:39:02.180 to the

01:39:02.700 infection

01:39:03.200 so I would

01:39:03.920 simply

01:39:04.280 strengthen

01:39:04.740 my immune

01:39:05.320 system

01:39:05.860 you know

01:39:06.540 and

01:39:06.860 again we're

01:39:08.380 preventing

01:39:08.720 natural herd

01:39:09.740 immunity

01:39:10.160 by not letting

01:39:11.320 the people

01:39:11.780 who have

01:39:12.140 recovered

01:39:12.600 who are

01:39:13.080 immune

01:39:13.440 who don't

01:39:14.760 are asymptomatic

01:39:15.820 they're not

01:39:16.600 spreading virus

01:39:17.360 if you're

01:39:18.040 asymptomatic

01:39:18.760 by definition

01:39:19.560 you're not

01:39:20.120 coughing

01:39:20.640 droplets

01:39:21.480 of coronavirus

01:39:22.380 on people

01:39:23.360 it's not

01:39:24.380 how it

01:39:24.860 works

01:39:25.240 and so

01:39:25.960 we don't

01:39:26.580 wear masks

01:39:27.160 we've never

01:39:27.620 worn masks

01:39:28.320 with the

01:39:28.920 common cold

01:39:29.540 and influenza

01:39:30.080 if I'm

01:39:31.000 taking care

01:39:31.760 of my

01:39:32.280 husband

01:39:32.660 for example

01:39:33.480 who has

01:39:34.300 COPD

01:39:34.980 every year

01:39:36.420 I prevent

01:39:37.160 him from

01:39:37.600 getting any

01:39:38.460 kind of

01:39:39.060 microbial

01:39:39.680 infection

01:39:40.180 the same

01:39:40.660 way

01:39:40.920 so I'm

01:39:41.500 not

01:39:41.680 treating

01:39:41.920 yes

01:39:42.300 I do

01:39:42.900 keep

01:39:43.300 him at

01:39:43.660 home

01:39:43.880 more

01:39:44.100 yes

01:39:44.460 I do

01:39:44.920 insist

01:39:45.360 he take

01:39:46.040 beach walks

01:39:46.700 and stay

01:39:47.160 outside

01:39:47.540 and keep

01:39:48.180 his immune

01:39:48.680 system up

01:39:49.260 and not

01:39:49.860 eat so much

01:39:50.380 crap

01:39:50.740 and drink

01:39:51.980 you know

01:39:52.300 we use

01:39:52.760 tonic water

01:39:53.360 so we put

01:39:54.220 tonic water

01:39:54.840 with our lemon

01:39:55.500 and we got

01:39:56.040 a little

01:39:56.320 quina

01:39:56.720 you know

01:39:57.180 you don't

01:39:57.560 need much

01:39:58.260 and you

01:39:58.860 don't need

01:39:59.340 much for

01:39:59.760 any of

01:40:00.060 these

01:40:00.240 and he

01:40:01.120 hasn't

01:40:01.500 been sick

01:40:02.100 he got

01:40:02.780 his

01:40:03.080 COPD

01:40:03.880 from a

01:40:04.420 microbial

01:40:05.100 infection

01:40:05.900 when he

01:40:06.280 was in

01:40:06.540 his 30s

01:40:07.140 he's now

01:40:07.580 81

01:40:08.180 and he

01:40:08.800 hasn't been

01:40:09.180 sick

01:40:09.420 in years

01:40:09.780 he's fine

01:40:10.280 you hear

01:40:12.100 a lot

01:40:12.460 about the

01:40:12.880 risk of

01:40:13.360 people like

01:40:13.820 yourself

01:40:14.100 to come

01:40:14.420 out and

01:40:14.700 talk

01:40:14.940 how much

01:40:17.340 of that

01:40:17.580 does that

01:40:17.940 still happen

01:40:18.620 in the

01:40:18.920 medical world

01:40:19.620 where folks

01:40:20.780 are coming

01:40:21.180 out

01:40:21.420 is it

01:40:21.780 pretty common

01:40:22.360 for folks

01:40:23.000 to come

01:40:23.340 out and

01:40:23.620 fight the

01:40:24.060 system

01:40:24.400 to have

01:40:24.760 something

01:40:25.300 happen to

01:40:25.840 them

01:40:26.000 you know

01:40:26.460 even

01:40:26.680 getting

01:40:26.940 killed

01:40:27.300 it's

01:40:30.180 really not

01:40:30.860 as calm

01:40:31.420 as it

01:40:31.800 would be

01:40:32.640 because of

01:40:33.480 things like

01:40:34.440 how journals

01:40:35.860 and your

01:40:36.500 career is

01:40:37.120 destroyed

01:40:37.520 or your

01:40:37.880 life is

01:40:38.360 destroyed

01:40:38.780 and we

01:40:39.160 had a

01:40:40.160 whole

01:40:40.520 chapter

01:40:41.520 in our

01:40:41.960 book

01:40:42.180 about

01:40:42.500 people

01:40:42.940 who did

01:40:43.780 get

01:40:44.120 killed

01:40:44.480 who realized

01:40:45.520 the truth

01:40:46.040 and stood

01:40:46.500 up for

01:40:46.860 the truth

01:40:47.280 and lost

01:40:47.820 their lives

01:40:48.440 or lost

01:40:48.980 their careers

01:40:49.680 much like

01:40:50.860 I do

01:40:51.260 so most

01:40:52.280 people

01:40:52.840 know it's

01:40:54.520 not as

01:40:54.880 common as

01:40:55.460 it should

01:40:55.840 be

01:40:56.040 but why

01:40:56.440 are you

01:40:56.660 doing this

01:40:57.220 why are you

01:40:57.820 talking

01:40:58.520 why are you

01:40:59.500 coming out

01:41:00.340 and speaking

01:41:00.820 you know

01:41:02.120 the man

01:41:02.880 you're speaking

01:41:03.440 against

01:41:03.820 he's on

01:41:04.200 TV every

01:41:04.800 other second

01:41:05.520 of the day

01:41:06.080 he's on

01:41:07.160 everybody's

01:41:08.160 Facebook live

01:41:08.920 he's on

01:41:09.260 everybody's

01:41:09.820 Instagram live

01:41:10.560 he's on

01:41:11.000 TV with

01:41:11.520 Trump all

01:41:11.940 the time

01:41:12.240 I'm talking

01:41:12.780 about Dr.

01:41:13.260 Anthony Fauci

01:41:13.880 and you're

01:41:14.180 talking about

01:41:14.680 him a lot

01:41:15.120 why are you

01:41:15.880 doing this

01:41:16.420 well

01:41:17.220 it's simply

01:41:18.660 said

01:41:19.140 when Frank

01:41:20.240 Cresetti

01:41:20.600 came back

01:41:21.360 in 1983

01:41:22.400 and Tony

01:41:24.040 Fauci

01:41:24.520 and he

01:41:25.720 found out

01:41:26.280 what I

01:41:26.640 had done

01:41:27.200 and

01:41:27.920 he said

01:41:29.480 you did

01:41:30.240 not giving

01:41:30.900 him the

01:41:31.240 paper

01:41:31.560 he said

01:41:32.680 you did

01:41:33.480 that for

01:41:33.960 me

01:41:34.360 and I

01:41:35.220 said

01:41:35.480 no

01:41:35.760 asshole

01:41:36.300 I did

01:41:36.740 it because

01:41:37.080 it's the

01:41:37.500 right thing

01:41:38.020 to do

01:41:38.480 and from

01:41:39.380 that day

01:41:39.940 on we've

01:41:40.540 been fast

01:41:41.100 friends

01:41:41.520 because

01:41:42.020 there's

01:41:43.280 no other

01:41:44.020 thing you

01:41:44.480 can do

01:41:44.880 it's

01:41:45.500 integrity

01:41:46.120 I didn't

01:41:46.680 do it

01:41:46.960 for you

01:41:47.440 I did

01:41:47.880 it because

01:41:48.200 it's the

01:41:48.600 only thing

01:41:49.240 I know

01:41:49.620 how to

01:41:49.940 do

01:41:50.100 it's the

01:41:50.540 only

01:41:51.000 and I

01:41:52.160 haven't

01:41:52.560 just come

01:41:53.080 out two

01:41:53.520 weeks ago

01:41:54.040 these books

01:41:55.180 are 10

01:41:55.700 years worth

01:41:56.200 of work

01:41:56.580 we've got

01:41:57.240 everything

01:41:57.680 taped

01:41:58.120 my career

01:41:59.220 every time

01:42:00.600 I lost

01:42:01.200 a job

01:42:01.780 from

01:42:02.100 insolence

01:42:02.880 and insubordination

01:42:04.080 yeah

01:42:06.220 I never

01:42:06.900 lost a job

01:42:07.680 for any

01:42:08.320 other reason

01:42:08.920 you're a rebel

01:42:09.740 that's for sure

01:42:10.500 so

01:42:11.120 we're gonna

01:42:11.860 this is the

01:42:12.300 last part

01:42:12.720 of the

01:42:12.920 interview

01:42:13.220 I will

01:42:13.700 name a

01:42:14.160 couple

01:42:14.360 different

01:42:14.720 organizations

01:42:15.420 you tell

01:42:15.880 me the

01:42:16.120 first word

01:42:16.500 that comes

01:42:16.900 to mind

01:42:17.240 and then

01:42:17.500 I'll give

01:42:17.800 you a few

01:42:18.120 names

01:42:18.380 and tell

01:42:18.680 me the

01:42:18.900 first thing

01:42:19.220 that comes

01:42:19.600 to mind

01:42:20.000 CDC

01:42:20.940 Center for

01:42:23.660 Dishonesty

01:42:24.280 and Corruption

01:42:25.000 okay

01:42:26.600 FDA

01:42:27.560 same idea

01:42:32.540 the corrupt

01:42:33.260 the only

01:42:35.400 thing

01:42:35.700 they're supposed

01:42:36.360 to be protecting

01:42:37.240 the safety

01:42:37.780 of food

01:42:38.200 and drugs

01:42:38.640 and they've

01:42:39.200 done nothing

01:42:39.760 about the

01:42:40.260 safety

01:42:40.540 of GMOs

01:42:41.280 they're

01:42:42.080 corrupt

01:42:42.780 they have

01:42:43.900 no authority

01:42:44.920 they gave

01:42:45.360 themselves

01:42:45.800 authority

01:42:46.300 for efficacy

01:42:47.260 of drugs

01:42:47.980 and the

01:42:48.720 FDA

01:42:49.100 closed

01:42:49.560 them

01:42:49.760 they're

01:42:50.240 corrupt

01:42:50.580 NIH

01:42:51.580 still

01:42:56.160 in

01:42:56.700 it's

01:42:57.160 you know

01:42:57.820 NIH's

01:42:58.640 National

01:42:59.200 Institutes

01:42:59.820 of Health

01:43:00.220 I still

01:43:00.980 think most

01:43:01.520 people

01:43:01.900 in those

01:43:02.440 organizations

01:43:03.140 are attempting

01:43:04.260 to make

01:43:05.120 our health

01:43:05.780 better

01:43:06.180 and most

01:43:08.860 of my

01:43:09.180 colleagues

01:43:09.500 we never

01:43:09.940 did anything

01:43:10.560 in the

01:43:10.860 National

01:43:11.140 Cancer

01:43:11.600 Institute

01:43:11.940 or anything

01:43:12.520 else

01:43:12.820 other than

01:43:13.240 take care

01:43:13.660 they're

01:43:14.140 mostly

01:43:14.560 honest

01:43:14.900 people

01:43:15.260 it's

01:43:15.520 the top

01:43:15.980 that needs

01:43:16.400 to be

01:43:16.700 changed

01:43:17.120 OIG

01:43:17.880 oh

01:43:21.060 is that

01:43:21.980 office

01:43:22.300 of

01:43:22.540 inspector

01:43:22.980 general

01:43:23.460 yes

01:43:24.040 we

01:43:25.500 submitted

01:43:25.980 a

01:43:26.320 Frank

01:43:27.100 submitted

01:43:27.600 a

01:43:28.040 complaint

01:43:29.520 to them

01:43:29.980 about

01:43:30.320 the

01:43:30.620 lack

01:43:31.160 of

01:43:31.320 ethics

01:43:31.700 before

01:43:32.400 anything

01:43:33.000 ever

01:43:33.320 happened

01:43:33.660 to me

01:43:34.060 and my

01:43:34.660 lawyer

01:43:34.940 called

01:43:35.320 and said

01:43:35.880 or the

01:43:36.720 lawyers

01:43:37.060 called

01:43:37.440 him

01:43:37.680 and said

01:43:38.100 withdraw

01:43:38.560 it

01:43:39.040 and it

01:43:39.800 will go

01:43:40.220 easier

01:43:40.720 for you

01:43:41.220 so

01:43:41.500 corrupt

01:43:41.840 they're

01:43:42.060 not

01:43:42.260 protecting

01:43:42.700 anybody

01:43:43.100 but

01:43:43.360 themselves

01:43:43.820 here's

01:43:44.900 some

01:43:45.020 names

01:43:46.020 Mike

01:43:47.560 Hugo

01:43:48.040 no

01:43:49.220 I

01:43:49.360 love

01:43:49.620 him

01:43:49.820 he's

01:43:51.140 he's

01:43:51.740 he's

01:43:52.200 a

01:43:52.360 fabulous

01:43:52.860 honest

01:43:53.520 lawyer

01:43:53.920 with

01:43:54.200 integrity

01:43:54.760 he

01:43:55.220 goes

01:43:55.480 back

01:43:55.800 all

01:43:56.100 the

01:43:56.240 way

01:43:56.380 to

01:43:56.500 the

01:43:56.640 80s

01:43:56.960 he

01:43:57.140 was

01:43:57.380 winning

01:43:57.780 the

01:43:58.040 cases

01:43:58.420 to

01:43:59.020 prevent

01:43:59.400 those

01:43:59.720 kids

01:44:00.040 he

01:44:00.420 genuinely

01:44:01.180 wrote

01:44:01.740 that

01:44:02.060 law

01:44:02.460 for

01:44:03.040 the

01:44:03.340 vaccine

01:44:04.100 injury

01:44:05.200 compensation

01:44:05.780 act

01:44:06.540 with

01:44:06.960 the

01:44:07.160 hope

01:44:07.440 that

01:44:07.700 it

01:44:07.840 would

01:44:08.020 help

01:44:08.520 these

01:44:08.840 people

01:44:09.260 that

01:44:09.520 had

01:44:09.920 been

01:44:10.200 injured

01:44:10.660 get

01:44:11.360 something

01:44:11.940 quick

01:44:12.420 and

01:44:12.660 end

01:44:13.000 the

01:44:13.180 suffering

01:44:13.680 Harry

01:44:14.420 Reed

01:44:14.860 that's

01:44:19.300 bad

01:44:19.660 let me

01:44:20.460 think

01:44:20.680 of a

01:44:21.160 nicer

01:44:21.420 way

01:44:21.620 to

01:44:21.740 say

01:44:21.920 it

01:44:22.080 a

01:44:23.200 puppet

01:44:24.500 no

01:44:26.320 puppet

01:44:26.700 John

01:44:28.740 Cohen

01:44:29.120 a

01:44:33.200 criminal

01:44:34.020 investigative

01:44:37.180 reporter

01:44:38.000 he

01:44:39.560 purports

01:44:41.180 fear

01:44:42.020 corruption

01:44:43.320 he

01:44:43.720 drives

01:44:44.700 the

01:44:44.940 corruption

01:44:45.480 John

01:44:46.100 Cohen

01:44:46.400 is

01:44:46.620 that

01:44:46.880 reporter

01:44:47.380 and

01:44:47.880 I

01:44:48.220 wrote

01:44:48.620 him

01:44:48.860 an

01:44:49.020 email

01:44:49.320 how

01:44:50.040 unethical

01:44:51.960 I'm

01:44:52.640 proud

01:44:53.060 of what

01:44:53.420 I did

01:44:53.800 really

01:44:54.160 you're

01:44:54.460 proud

01:44:54.900 of what

01:44:55.240 you did

01:44:55.620 you know

01:44:56.240 you're

01:44:56.520 proud

01:44:56.840 of what

01:44:57.180 you did

01:44:57.660 you know

01:44:58.380 it's

01:44:58.600 not

01:44:58.760 the

01:44:58.940 truth

01:44:59.160 you're

01:44:59.440 proud

01:44:59.840 you're

01:45:00.300 proud

01:45:00.560 of

01:45:00.760 this

01:45:01.140 you're

01:45:01.860 proud

01:45:02.420 of

01:45:02.580 that

01:45:02.820 where

01:45:03.220 is

01:45:03.600 he

01:45:03.720 now

01:45:03.960 when

01:45:04.120 the

01:45:04.240 CDC

01:45:04.600 admitted

01:45:05.240 their

01:45:05.740 tests

01:45:06.080 were

01:45:06.280 false

01:45:06.520 positive

01:45:06.920 hey

01:45:07.260 send

01:45:07.780 this

01:45:08.020 article

01:45:08.340 out

01:45:08.700 John

01:45:09.140 sorry

01:45:10.040 that's

01:45:12.520 what

01:45:12.660 I'd

01:45:12.860 like

01:45:13.060 to

01:45:13.200 see

01:45:13.380 in

01:45:13.540 prison

01:45:13.820 forever

01:45:14.300 he'd

01:45:15.820 be

01:45:15.880 at

01:45:16.000 the

01:45:16.100 top

01:45:16.280 of

01:45:16.360 your

01:45:16.460 list

01:45:16.760 no

01:45:17.540 not

01:45:17.860 the

01:45:18.020 top

01:45:18.240 of

01:45:18.340 my

01:45:18.480 list

01:45:18.760 he'd

01:45:19.420 be

01:45:19.480 on

01:45:19.640 the

01:45:19.780 list

01:45:19.960 a

01:45:20.120 long

01:45:20.520 list

01:45:21.020 George

01:45:22.400 Orwell

01:45:22.880 we're

01:45:25.740 kind

01:45:25.960 of

01:45:26.040 living

01:45:26.260 it

01:45:26.440 aren't

01:45:26.620 we

01:45:26.840 1984

01:45:28.000 yeah

01:45:28.720 that's

01:45:29.080 what

01:45:29.240 this

01:45:31.100 is

01:45:31.400 Frank

01:45:31.940 Dr.

01:45:32.460 Frank

01:45:32.640 Rossetti

01:45:33.060 no

01:45:34.080 just

01:45:34.420 I mean

01:45:34.860 my

01:45:35.180 best

01:45:35.780 friend

01:45:36.120 and

01:45:36.400 just

01:45:37.500 a

01:45:38.180 man

01:45:38.440 of

01:45:38.580 total

01:45:38.900 integrity

01:45:39.440 and

01:45:39.780 and

01:45:40.180 he's

01:45:40.420 absolutely

01:45:41.060 a

01:45:41.480 genius

01:45:41.840 he

01:45:42.500 just

01:45:43.060 he

01:45:43.400 sees

01:45:43.740 things

01:45:44.020 other

01:45:44.220 people

01:45:44.520 don't

01:45:44.820 see

01:45:45.080 Bobby

01:45:45.900 Kennedy

01:45:47.600 I've

01:45:49.240 come

01:45:49.500 to

01:45:49.660 respect

01:45:50.100 that

01:45:50.360 man

01:45:50.620 just

01:45:50.880 respect

01:45:51.480 is

01:45:51.880 the

01:45:52.040 word

01:45:52.280 for

01:45:52.500 his

01:45:52.760 willingness

01:45:53.540 to

01:45:53.980 go

01:45:54.300 to

01:45:54.500 bat

01:45:54.800 and

01:45:55.240 really

01:45:55.660 learn

01:45:56.240 he

01:45:56.620 doesn't

01:45:56.920 just

01:45:57.120 say

01:45:57.320 something

01:45:57.700 he

01:45:57.880 doesn't

01:45:58.180 do

01:45:58.360 the

01:45:58.560 investigation

01:45:59.780 Debra

01:46:00.960 Burks

01:46:01.840 Scarf

01:46:07.480 lady

01:46:07.660 okay

01:46:07.960 buffoon

01:46:09.800 she's

01:46:10.200 committed

01:46:11.280 crimes

01:46:11.880 in the

01:46:12.220 80s

01:46:12.620 in HIV

01:46:13.240 against

01:46:14.040 the

01:46:14.280 military

01:46:14.760 and

01:46:15.040 they

01:46:15.240 destroyed

01:46:16.220 families

01:46:16.980 she's

01:46:17.560 right

01:46:17.800 there

01:46:18.020 doing

01:46:18.300 the

01:46:18.520 same

01:46:18.720 thing

01:46:18.980 she

01:46:19.480 knows

01:46:19.920 that

01:46:20.180 there's

01:46:20.440 no

01:46:20.600 such

01:46:20.860 thing

01:46:21.060 as

01:46:21.260 asymptomatic

01:46:22.140 carriers

01:46:22.640 oh

01:46:23.120 so

01:46:23.320 we'll

01:46:23.480 let

01:46:23.660 you

01:46:23.800 go

01:46:24.040 we'll

01:46:24.280 do

01:46:24.460 a

01:46:24.820 release

01:46:25.200 and

01:46:25.400 we'll

01:46:25.560 let

01:46:25.720 everybody

01:46:26.060 out

01:46:26.380 of

01:46:26.460 their

01:46:26.600 house

01:46:27.000 and

01:46:27.740 and

01:46:27.760 then

01:46:28.220 oh

01:46:28.460 but

01:46:28.560 don't

01:46:28.840 don't

01:46:28.860 get

01:46:29.220 too

01:46:29.400 far

01:46:29.680 because

01:46:29.900 as soon

01:46:30.220 as

01:46:30.360 the

01:46:30.500 summer's

01:46:30.860 over

01:46:31.020 it's

01:46:31.240 coming

01:46:31.480 back

01:46:31.860 no

01:46:32.220 if

01:46:32.380 you have

01:46:32.640 antibodies

01:46:33.120 you're

01:46:33.400 immune

01:46:33.800 stop

01:46:34.540 this

01:46:34.800 why are

01:46:35.160 you

01:46:35.340 redefining

01:46:36.180 immunology

01:46:36.980 because

01:46:37.580 you can

01:46:38.220 and it

01:46:38.520 covers up

01:46:39.060 your crime

01:46:39.500 so this

01:46:39.920 is more

01:46:40.520 the same

01:46:40.960 she

01:46:41.340 should

01:46:41.560 have

01:46:41.640 been

01:46:41.800 convicted

01:46:42.200 a long

01:46:42.600 time

01:46:42.860 ago

01:46:43.080 along

01:46:43.380 with

01:46:52.640 Tedros

01:46:53.060 the

01:46:53.260 director

01:46:53.620 of

01:46:53.880 CDC

01:46:54.420 don't

01:46:55.980 know

01:46:56.160 him

01:46:56.260 at

01:46:56.360 all

01:46:56.840 no

01:46:57.240 president

01:46:58.440 trump

01:46:58.920 think

01:47:01.200 he's

01:47:01.440 trying

01:47:01.740 the

01:47:01.920 best

01:47:02.160 he

01:47:02.340 can

01:47:02.640 to

01:47:03.000 honor

01:47:03.340 the

01:47:03.540 constitution

01:47:04.240 and

01:47:05.020 honor

01:47:06.880 his

01:47:07.100 promises

01:47:07.500 to

01:47:07.780 the

01:47:07.920 people

01:47:08.220 and

01:47:08.480 I

01:47:08.800 just

01:47:09.020 don't

01:47:09.280 think

01:47:09.480 there's

01:47:09.780 any

01:47:10.000 way

01:47:10.160 when

01:47:10.480 everybody's

01:47:11.800 lying

01:47:12.040 to

01:47:12.280 you

01:47:12.520 at

01:47:12.700 the

01:47:12.820 top

01:47:13.160 of

01:47:13.440 what

01:47:13.880 real

01:47:14.120 health

01:47:14.360 care

01:47:14.540 is

01:47:14.660 he's

01:47:14.840 not

01:47:15.020 a

01:47:15.160 scientist

01:47:15.460 he

01:47:15.960 shouldn't

01:47:16.240 be

01:47:16.380 expected

01:47:16.900 he

01:47:17.140 should

01:47:17.360 be

01:47:17.560 able

01:47:17.740 to

01:47:17.920 trust

01:47:18.280 his

01:47:18.840 leaders

01:47:19.280 Bill

01:47:20.320 Gates

01:47:20.720 he

01:47:22.920 knows

01:47:23.180 nothing

01:47:23.580 about

01:47:23.940 medicine

01:47:24.360 he

01:47:24.580 doesn't

01:47:24.880 have

01:47:25.060 a

01:47:25.180 medical

01:47:25.480 degree

01:47:25.980 a

01:47:26.180 billion

01:47:26.500 dollars

01:47:26.940 doesn't

01:47:27.360 nobody

01:47:27.700 elected

01:47:28.180 him

01:47:28.400 anything

01:47:28.900 a

01:47:29.560 billion

01:47:29.840 dollars

01:47:30.200 doesn't

01:47:30.580 allow

01:47:30.840 him

01:47:31.080 to

01:47:31.260 become

01:47:31.560 a

01:47:31.760 doctor

01:47:32.160 and

01:47:32.660 decide

01:47:33.020 who

01:47:33.220 gets

01:47:33.480 what

01:47:33.740 vaccines

01:47:34.320 and

01:47:34.700 who

01:47:35.940 can't

01:47:36.360 leave

01:47:36.560 their

01:47:36.800 home

01:47:37.240 you

01:47:38.480 know

01:47:39.720 just

01:47:39.980 because

01:47:40.300 he

01:47:40.440 has

01:47:40.600 all

01:47:40.780 the

01:47:40.900 money

01:47:41.160 Francis

01:47:42.280 Collins

01:47:42.760 I

01:47:44.360 think

01:47:44.560 I

01:47:44.840 said

01:47:45.320 a

01:47:45.460 puppet

01:47:45.700 he's

01:47:45.980 a

01:47:46.060 good

01:47:46.200 man

01:47:46.500 he

01:47:46.920 just

01:47:47.160 he

01:47:47.480 tried

01:47:48.060 to

01:47:48.260 do

01:47:48.380 the

01:47:48.560 right

01:47:48.780 thing

01:47:49.120 and

01:47:49.480 Tony

01:47:50.960 Fauci

01:47:51.400 over

01:47:51.920 ruled

01:47:52.580 him

01:47:52.880 and

01:47:53.260 that's

01:47:54.480 the

01:47:54.600 way

01:47:54.720 I

01:47:54.820 feel

01:47:55.000 about

01:47:55.160 him

01:47:55.540 Harold

01:47:55.960 Varmus

01:47:56.540 Nobel

01:47:59.380 laureate

01:48:00.060 he was

01:48:00.380 brought

01:48:01.360 back

01:48:01.800 to head

01:48:02.140 the

01:48:02.300 National

01:48:02.640 Cancer

01:48:03.120 Institute

01:48:03.500 with

01:48:03.880 only

01:48:04.120 one

01:48:04.360 thing

01:48:04.560 in

01:48:04.700 mind

01:48:04.940 make

01:48:05.460 that

01:48:05.680 virus

01:48:06.000 go

01:48:06.240 away

01:48:06.460 and

01:48:06.620 destroy

01:48:06.980 Frank

01:48:07.340 Rosetti

01:48:07.700 Dr.

01:48:09.940 Anthony

01:48:10.320 Fauci

01:48:10.820 again

01:48:12.520 treason

01:48:13.280 is

01:48:13.720 what

01:48:14.400 he

01:48:14.660 should

01:48:14.900 be

01:48:15.220 charged

01:48:16.180 with

01:48:16.480 and

01:48:16.700 he

01:48:16.900 should

01:48:17.100 go

01:48:17.380 right

01:48:17.780 now

01:48:18.120 as

01:48:19.180 far

01:48:19.520 as

01:48:19.920 and

01:48:20.180 all

01:48:20.720 of

01:48:20.880 the

01:48:21.000 money

01:48:21.240 the

01:48:21.660 last

01:48:21.940 slide

01:48:22.280 of

01:48:22.420 that

01:48:22.660 truth

01:48:23.660 about

01:48:23.980 cancer

01:48:24.400 talk

01:48:24.900 was

01:48:25.400 all

01:48:25.980 of

01:48:26.120 these

01:48:26.340 things

01:48:26.640 be

01:48:26.880 closed

01:48:27.320 give

01:48:27.640 the

01:48:27.820 people

01:48:28.180 the

01:48:28.400 money

01:48:28.620 you

01:48:28.860 stole

01:48:29.180 reorganize

01:48:30.340 all

01:48:30.860 of

01:48:31.120 HHS

01:48:31.780 health

01:48:32.080 and

01:48:32.240 human

01:48:32.440 services

01:48:32.980 and

01:48:33.820 start

01:48:34.140 over

01:48:34.380 we'll

01:48:34.640 rebalance

01:48:35.180 the

01:48:35.420 budget

01:48:35.860 quickly

01:48:37.300 and

01:48:38.320 the

01:48:38.740 victims

01:48:39.180 of

01:48:39.460 these

01:48:39.680 crimes

01:48:40.080 will

01:48:40.280 get

01:48:40.460 restored

01:48:40.860 and

01:48:41.080 we

01:48:41.280 can

01:48:41.480 use

01:48:42.320 these

01:48:42.680 health

01:48:43.080 measures

01:48:43.760 that

01:48:44.020 all

01:48:44.200 those

01:48:44.400 brilliant

01:48:44.720 people

01:48:45.160 at

01:48:45.420 the

01:48:45.580 NIH

01:48:45.880 have

01:48:46.240 done

01:48:46.480 for

01:48:46.840 40

01:48:47.580 years

01:48:47.840 to

01:48:48.020 bring

01:48:48.220 about

01:48:48.440 a

01:48:48.600 new

01:48:48.800 health

01:48:49.160 for

01:48:49.360 our

01:48:49.520 country

01:48:49.860 like

01:48:50.120 we've

01:48:50.340 never

01:48:50.520 seen

01:48:50.860 before

01:48:51.260 Dr.

01:48:52.160 Judy

01:48:52.340 I'll

01:48:52.540 give you

01:48:52.700 the

01:48:52.840 final

01:48:53.060 word

01:48:53.360 you know

01:48:53.600 audience

01:48:53.960 is

01:48:54.160 listening

01:48:54.500 they've

01:48:54.780 heard

01:48:54.940 a lot

01:48:55.200 you've

01:48:55.420 talked

01:48:55.600 about

01:48:55.760 a lot

01:48:56.000 of

01:48:56.100 different

01:48:56.340 things

01:48:56.720 what

01:48:56.980 do

01:48:57.280 you

01:48:57.340 want

01:48:57.480 to

01:48:57.580 share

01:48:57.740 with

01:48:57.920 them

01:48:58.020 your

01:48:58.140 final

01:48:58.420 thoughts

01:48:58.860 I

01:49:00.540 I've

01:49:01.040 said

01:49:01.260 it

01:49:01.380 a

01:49:01.500 couple

01:49:01.740 of

01:49:01.920 times

01:49:02.240 in

01:49:02.440 other

01:49:02.660 places

01:49:03.120 because

01:49:03.560 I

01:49:03.960 feel

01:49:04.520 it

01:49:04.700 within

01:49:04.940 our

01:49:05.180 families

01:49:05.680 and

01:49:05.900 that

01:49:06.080 is

01:49:06.260 forgive

01:49:06.600 yourselves

01:49:08.100 and

01:49:09.040 forgive

01:49:09.380 each

01:49:09.680 other

01:49:09.940 none

01:49:10.700 of

01:49:10.840 us

01:49:11.020 could

01:49:11.220 have

01:49:11.380 possibly

01:49:12.120 known

01:49:12.480 the

01:49:12.980 investigators

01:49:13.700 in

01:49:14.000 the

01:49:14.140 laboratories

01:49:14.740 the

01:49:15.100 scientists

01:49:15.780 Dr.

01:49:16.520 Rossetti

01:49:16.960 our

01:49:17.280 families

01:49:17.900 we

01:49:18.480 trusted

01:49:19.340 doctors

01:49:20.100 who

01:49:20.560 weren't

01:49:21.480 taught

01:49:22.040 they

01:49:22.520 were

01:49:22.980 taught

01:49:23.880 something

01:49:24.380 that

01:49:24.680 was

01:49:24.920 untrue

01:49:25.760 and

01:49:26.200 I

01:49:26.340 think

01:49:26.560 that's

01:49:26.920 why

01:49:27.180 I

01:49:27.440 have

01:49:27.660 this

01:49:27.880 baseball

01:49:28.320 hat

01:49:28.680 on

01:49:28.920 for

01:49:29.120 Vax

01:49:29.540 2

01:49:29.920 the

01:49:30.700 movie

01:49:31.820 the

01:49:32.060 people's

01:49:32.620 truths

01:49:33.180 watch

01:49:34.780 it

01:49:35.040 and

01:49:35.560 you

01:49:36.140 see

01:49:36.500 the

01:49:36.740 pain

01:49:37.160 and

01:49:37.600 you

01:49:37.720 see

01:49:37.900 the

01:49:38.080 doctors

01:49:38.520 say

01:49:38.800 they

01:49:39.000 weren't

01:49:39.300 told

01:49:39.660 about

01:49:39.980 vaccines

01:49:40.480 you

01:49:40.680 see

01:49:41.020 once

01:49:41.640 somebody

01:49:42.100 learns

01:49:42.460 the

01:49:42.700 truth

01:49:43.000 you

01:49:43.400 see

01:49:43.640 the

01:49:43.840 families

01:49:44.320 where

01:49:44.600 one

01:49:44.900 child

01:49:45.240 is

01:49:45.480 injured

01:49:45.880 and

01:49:46.300 the

01:49:47.080 child

01:49:47.540 you

01:49:47.820 know

01:49:48.000 and

01:49:49.380 the

01:49:49.800 children

01:49:50.120 that

01:49:50.380 don't

01:49:50.640 get

01:49:50.820 vaccinated

01:49:51.460 the

01:49:51.740 healthy

01:49:52.160 people

01:49:52.560 don't

01:49:52.920 make

01:49:53.160 people

01:49:53.520 sick

01:49:53.900 they're

01:49:54.360 the

01:49:54.520 healthiest

01:49:55.080 and

01:49:55.320 yet

01:49:55.680 they

01:49:55.900 have

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Valuetainment - May 22, 2020

Episode 470： Former Aids Scientist Calls Out Dr. Fauci for Medical Corruption

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