Valuetainment - October 25, 2026


Ex-Secret Service Agent’s Polygraph Caught an Applicant Who Set Cats on Fire

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00:00:30.000 how does one get better at uh the intuition of reading somebody to see if this is someone i can
00:00:37.180 trust and do business with and this is somebody dangerous that i shouldn't do business with or
00:00:40.360 even have as a friend slow down everything doesn't have to be fast the thing is people make you feel
00:00:46.020 like you have to respond right away especially today with text somebody sends you a text and
00:00:49.860 you feel i have to be fast i have to respond and you can be but discernment to have it you can't
00:00:56.220 be fast you have to slow down so if it's something where I'm like I'm not sure or even if I feel like
00:01:02.100 a weird way or or if I I listen to it I listen to it so I will give myself time to think and
00:01:09.860 process and see how I feel I mean just think about how many times you go to respond to someone or you
00:01:15.880 you respond and then afterward you think back like oh I should have done it this way I when time
00:01:20.740 passes you think more rationally number one you've had more time to process and then a lot of times
00:01:26.560 you even decide whether you want to respond or not most of the time most things don't need a
00:01:31.020 response not everybody needs a response from us but we're made to feel like i have to respond to
00:01:35.040 everybody uh you're very busy patrick i'm busy so if i respond to everybody i'm just how much time
00:01:42.520 am i going to waste responding to you to you to you to you it's always like who needs my attention
00:01:47.240 and when do they need it?
00:01:49.040 So I guess, don't be so reactive.
00:01:52.500 Discernment to me is like not being reactive.
00:01:55.040 It's like I slow down and I decide when to respond,
00:01:57.860 how I want to respond, and whether I want to do it or not.
00:02:00.420 And sometimes I may not have all the information.
00:02:02.920 Sometimes, you know what?
00:02:03.740 I just don't want to be rushed.
00:02:05.820 I want to have a bit more composure over myself
00:02:08.600 and my mind before I make a decision.
00:02:10.380 That's me, discernment.
00:02:11.500 And discernment's not saying yes to everything.
00:02:14.240 It depends, though, where you are in life sometimes.
00:02:16.640 Sometimes with opportunities, if we're talking opportunities, you say yes to everything when
00:02:20.160 you're starting off.
00:02:21.420 But I mean, in general, you don't have to say yes to everything.
00:02:24.960 Interesting.
00:02:25.220 So it depends on the stage of your life.
00:02:27.320 Early on, say yes to everything because you don't know what it's going to turn into.
00:02:29.840 And then eventually, you become more selective.
00:02:32.160 But what are some three signs I can get when I'm looking at somebody, doing business with
00:02:37.480 somebody, after three months, six months, that I can tell this person is somebody I
00:02:42.080 should invest in and go a little bit deeper with the relationship or I should cut them?
00:02:44.800 one do they show up on time for your meetings I don't care if it's a zoom I don't care if it's
00:02:48.540 in person if they're not on time that tells you I kind of the way there's everyone it's interesting
00:02:56.540 everyone's like big on I want respect I want respect the way you show somebody respect is
00:03:00.560 I respect your time I respect you and your time you shouldn't be waiting for me so if somebody
00:03:05.180 has me waiting for them I just I just mark it in my brain I just remember it it depends who it is
00:03:10.700 I just remember it.
00:03:11.620 So it tells me like I'm not as important to them.
00:03:15.800 Do they take feedback well?
00:03:17.380 So if I'm going back and forth, do they take feedback well?
00:03:21.840 And then the other thing is, this is a big indicator,
00:03:24.920 and I was actually talking with Anthony about it before.
00:03:30.060 Does do what people say match up with what they do?
00:03:33.620 People talk a lot.
00:03:36.020 Everyone's a talker.
00:03:37.000 I look at what they do.
00:03:38.260 If you said you're going to do this for me, did you do it or did you give me lip service or did you forget?
00:03:46.160 So I match what you say with what you deliver.
00:03:50.140 Those two things are in harmony.
00:03:52.300 If I get talkers, I don't respond.
00:03:56.020 If you say, hey, I'm going to do this for you and I give you access to something and you're supposed to review it and get back to me and I don't hear from you.
00:04:03.520 And I hear from you two months later and that wasn't the understanding or three months later.
00:04:08.260 I'm I'm checked out. So in the recruiting process that you're going through last week, I had a fellow here, John McPhee, who was a former sergeant major in the army.
00:04:19.520 He was a Delta Force for many years. They call him Shrek. The guy's a very well-known guy in the military.
00:04:25.580 And one of the things we talked about is the recruitment process of getting into Delta Force and how you get recruited into it.
00:04:31.680 when you're going into the recruiting of doing what you do with secret service,
00:04:37.380 what are the red flags?
00:04:38.660 What do they look for?
00:04:39.820 What do they say?
00:04:40.400 Is there a pattern of the types of personalities they recruit?
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00:05:12.780 so i did i actually was part of hr so when we did polygraphs you had to take a polygraph and
00:05:18.360 pass it to be in the u.s secret service and that's it was typically the last phase or towards the
00:05:23.060 last phase of the process um so they had to eventually get to me and then sometimes it
00:05:28.260 would be like look this person's cleared everything something's off but we can't figure it
00:05:33.120 out so they come to me and say just just let us know so here are a couple of things i would see
00:05:38.980 in hiring one bigger flag is just the most people either lie or exaggerate on resumes just just know
00:05:46.560 that if if time is missing on a resume if you see gaps sometimes people can leave that off because
00:05:53.360 they were fired or let go so gaps of time they would also look at and i don't know how deep you
00:06:00.620 can go in the private sector depending who you are obviously credit checks your net worth they
00:06:05.420 would look at that so if somebody's got massive amounts of debt um that's a red flag right you're
00:06:11.220 looking at someone who's not responsible can't pay off their debt um maybe i'm not saying that
00:06:15.740 they would but taking money you know that's a person might be more susceptible of role in the
00:06:19.820 to taking money so they would look at our net worth how much we owed versus how much we were
00:06:24.180 worth our credit history as well even if um they would even look at if you were kicked out of
00:06:31.020 somewhere like um evicted from a residence civil lawsuits if you were part of any civil lawsuits
00:06:36.400 in any which way the big mistake people who hire that they make is they don't ask questions they're 0.52
00:06:42.380 not nosy and they feel bad asking questions like you you're nosy you should be nosy you're bringing
00:06:49.680 this person into your company and a big issue that companies are having today is they they hire
00:06:53.740 virtually so you have deep fakes and people don't even think about the outside threat coming in not
00:07:00.040 just like hiring a good person if you're looking to meet the person one-on-one that's one thing
00:07:04.520 but deep fakes so even hiring people that will infiltrate your company there's companies now
00:07:08.860 big tech companies they have big issues with having people in the company because they're
00:07:13.720 asking very like job skill questions can you do this can you do that like skills but they're not
00:07:19.380 looking at the overall human being so the one wonderful thing that the united states secret
00:07:23.360 service did is they looked at the totality of you it was not whether you had the skill set or not
00:07:29.040 in fact most of us didn't even have a criminal justice degree but we brought something special
00:07:36.040 i spoke languages so i had that um that helped me get in my foot in the door criminal justice like
00:07:41.900 they teach you everything in training but they would look at your background i owed a i had
00:07:48.200 paid off a collection bill when i was super young i might have been 17 18 it was 125 i paid it off
00:07:53.240 but it still rang in my credit report they sat me down they're like hey what's this 125 you owe
00:07:58.440 and they went to my schools and references people don't check references ask questions be nosy
00:08:06.080 make people answer you but when i went to apply for the job i studied overseas a lot and at one
00:08:12.340 point i studied in rome i did i was at the american university of rome they sent a special agent to
00:08:17.960 the american university of rome rome to speak to my professors what kind of student was she was she
00:08:23.620 on time do you have problems with her in the classroom so i'm not telling you that you most
00:08:28.040 people can't do that deep of a dive but you should look at the whole human and any inconsistencies
00:08:33.220 i'll give you an example once i was going to have somebody work for me um and they gave me a legal
00:08:37.940 agreement hey if i want to work for you it was for a certain position but this is outside this
00:08:42.860 is post u.s secret service to give me an agreement i read the agreement and in my head i'm like first
00:08:46.940 of all a lawyer didn't write it you did this is chat gbt ai you could tell so i didn't like that
00:08:51.520 because it's like oh it's for my lawyer and i knew i'm like i may not be a lawyer but i know that you
00:08:55.640 a lawyer didn't write it red flag i don't like being misled that's one two in the in the in the
00:09:02.460 agreement it said we had agreed on a price it's like hey this is what i would like i said i'll
00:09:07.200 give it to you face value i didn't even negotiate i'll give it to you i want to honor that amount
00:09:11.380 but in the legal contract it's like oh i'm waiving my other fees i read it in the so it's like
00:09:16.760 you're going to pay me this but i will waive my other fees that i normally charge blah blah so in
00:09:20.660 my head i'm like why would you put that in there and when i asked the person why did you put that
00:09:24.640 in there oh my lawyer put in there but why would you put it in there what fees are you waiving
00:09:28.520 oh that's for later so the moment i heard that i'm like i'm gonna have a problem this person's
00:09:33.400 coming in and they're already telling me i'm under compensated and i gave you the amount you
00:09:38.840 initially asked for which was like let's say 10 10k i gave you 10k but now you're telling me in
00:09:44.160 your contract well i'm waiving it is the gamification that bothers is it the manipulation
00:09:48.980 is it like i'm trying to do a leverage like i'm doing you a favor is that is that the part that
00:09:54.220 bothered you no it's it's not being it's hiding it in there it's like if i tell you this you have
00:10:01.720 to trust people on their word doesn't she know who you are like why would she do that is that
00:10:06.000 i think people on her end or i think people don't think i think people think when they do agreements
00:10:11.420 like this is how they are and I look at very like the honor of working with someone like I have to
00:10:15.940 be able to trust you and so if you feel like you can't trust someone then just don't bring them on
00:10:20.960 companies and I do a lot of keynotes and training for companies ask me to come on the biggest
00:10:25.640 problem they have is once they get a problem forget it a problem person just corrupts everything
00:10:31.920 hurts the company and not only that you end up giving all your time and energy as a boss or
00:10:36.660 supervisor to what the problem person and you're neglecting everybody else because you're dealing
00:10:41.740 with this issue and so you you really want to minimize bringing in problem people or maybe
00:10:48.340 bringing them on a temporary basis almost like test driving employees before you're like i'm
00:10:52.740 hiring you just be like hey we're going to bring you on a three-month probation u.s secret service
00:10:57.020 nypd does the same thing it's a probation period so that they can get rid of you anytime they want
00:11:01.540 what percentage of guys do they get rid of on the probation side nypd probably more so than
00:11:06.240 U.S. Secret Service. U.S. Secret Service. Think of it this way. NYPD, my class of training is
00:11:10.340 fifteen hundred. U.S. Secret Service, fifty four. So U.S. Secret Service like literally hand plucks
00:11:16.020 you. They're picking you. They're really because they're investing a lot more money in you to send
00:11:21.460 you to training and they don't want to lose you. So they want to make sure you can also pass
00:11:25.660 training. They don't want people to just kick out. U.S. NYPD is a bit more. I don't want to say an
00:11:31.040 assembly line, but they'll do a map bigger net. And then in training, they're just weeding people
00:11:35.680 out they're just like goodbye gone so one is quantity the other one is quality and for secret
00:11:41.260 service are they recruiting you or you're approaching them you approach them they'll go
00:11:45.420 to like job fairs or they go to universities to get the word out because there's agent and there's
00:11:50.000 uniform division so they're two different things but they're all u.s secret service they work
00:11:54.180 together so they'll hold job fairs or they'll they'll go to universities to speak but for the
00:11:58.080 most part you go to them you have to think of it like this patrick like this that's not a job
00:12:02.200 just gonna be like oh my god you look amazing i think i'm gonna it's not like the movies where
00:12:06.480 you think like they're gonna recruit you because they think you're special nobody's special in
00:12:10.680 those jobs nobody it's it's everybody what do you bring what value do you bring and you work as a
00:12:17.020 team because that whole concept sometimes and i get he for it but authenticity you're so special
00:12:22.260 i have to cater to you if you're in a mission focus entity that brings the whole system down
00:12:27.780 because it's now, the focus is on me, the individual,
00:12:31.740 and you're reinforcing that.
00:12:34.400 You matter more than the team matters.
00:12:37.080 And you create an imbalance.
00:12:39.180 And now good luck trying to fix that.
00:12:41.320 Are there automatic elimination in the process
00:12:44.900 for candidates and secret service?
00:12:46.380 Like if this person has these five things, you're out.
00:12:48.300 Like a non-negotiable.
00:12:49.880 Drugs.
00:12:50.640 Drugs was a big thing that I'd see people get, 1.00
00:12:53.040 we would call it BQA'd.
00:12:54.580 A lot of, if you have drugs in your background,
00:12:57.380 I'm not saying no drugs and I want to be careful because there's a hiring process here but
00:13:00.900 drugs was the biggest disqualifier and a lot of times people when they were young
00:13:04.860 did a lot of things and sometimes it it it can carry into the future so if you had excessive
00:13:11.560 drugs you had certain things with certain drugs that would be the number one thing any drug was
00:13:15.840 it like not was it weed cocaine the problem now weeds legal in some places like you go to New
00:13:20.520 York you smell it everywhere you go um I think it's they give you some time like let's say you
00:13:26.740 did it now when you were 17 but you're 25 now and you're applying there might be a bit of space but
00:13:33.240 they you have to be honest if you lie you're done even nypd i remember when i went through the
00:13:39.240 recruitment process i remember the one of the recruiters taking my hair like i remember i was
00:13:44.180 like cut from the bottom and they cut like a big swath of hair all the way up to my root to test
00:13:50.720 my hair it cuts your hair yes because the hair holds drug use longer than any other part of the
00:13:56.540 Yeah.
00:13:57.100 And they do that with everybody?
00:13:58.480 I don't know if they do it now.
00:13:59.800 When I went in, I remember I was like, cut at the bottom.
00:14:03.340 And so what was the process like?
00:14:04.640 They said, we're going to cut your hair?
00:14:06.040 Yes, for drugs.
00:14:07.240 It's your drug test.
00:14:08.960 It's your drug test.
00:14:09.660 Because if you just do urinating in a cup or whatever, that only holds a window of time.
00:14:13.820 The hair has more time.
00:14:16.260 So I can look a little bit further back.
00:14:18.820 Do they still do it today?
00:14:20.800 NYPD, I do not know.
00:14:22.720 I do not know.
00:14:23.580 Secret Service?
00:14:24.340 Secret Service.
00:14:26.140 The polygraph was the weapon there.
00:14:29.020 NYPD does not polygraph, not all police departments polygraph.
00:14:32.100 Here's the way the polygraph works.
00:14:33.820 You tell me, let's say, no, I've never done any drugs.
00:14:37.260 Are you sure you've never done any drugs?
00:14:39.360 Well, you know, maybe one time.
00:14:40.920 So we'll have a conversation.
00:14:42.100 You'll tell me about it or whatever it is that you're worried about.
00:14:44.620 Then after we're done, okay, other than what you've told me, Patrick,
00:14:48.560 have you done this?
00:14:49.600 No, and that's when I sit you in the polygraph chair.
00:14:52.780 I ask you these questions.
00:14:56.140 And then we see if you pass the polygraph, if you pass it, it means you've been truthful
00:14:59.660 up until this point.
00:15:00.940 But drugs is probably the biggest thing I would see people get kicked out.
00:15:04.080 And then sometimes like deviant behavior when people are young.
00:15:08.580 I had one guy, he used to set animals on fire, cats.
00:15:15.560 Who would hire that person, period?
00:15:17.480 Right, but I have to ask questions to find out.
00:15:19.960 He didn't come out and say it.
00:15:21.760 I go through his paperwork.
00:15:23.260 I look at stuff.
00:15:24.120 I start asking questions.
00:15:25.140 He said cats on fire?
00:15:26.500 Yes.
00:15:27.000 I got him to specifically tell me what animal.
00:15:28.580 For some people.
00:15:29.240 That's a hiring.
00:15:29.860 That's like a good sign because dogs is a red line, but cats.
00:15:33.660 I don't want any animals because to me, if you're, and don't think, it doesn't, deviant
00:15:38.880 behavior, like even when you look at crime, because I know you guys analyze current events
00:15:42.620 and different things, deviant behavior begins at a younger age, but it starts in small moments,
00:15:48.020 right?
00:15:48.220 Small behavior.
00:15:49.300 And it's usually the violation of somebody's personal boundaries.
00:15:52.500 i do something to violate your safe space and i use that term like my behavior violates you in
00:15:58.620 some way causes you harm and if you see it in children and if you don't correct it it escalates
00:16:04.940 so my cat guy i don't think he started one day just setting a cat on fire the whole thing it
00:16:10.560 just came up poking it hurting it maybe cutting a nail off doing something and then that behavior
00:16:15.320 escalates and escalates and escalates how did you did you confront him because you knew or he told
00:16:20.220 you i didn't know he was he was looking for a job he was one of our applicants but how did that come
00:16:25.800 up the cat situation i ask one of the questions you ask and this actually came up in uh with fbi
00:16:31.580 i think recently in the news we ask about relationships to animals so if you have
00:16:36.900 relationships with animals some people have inappropriate personal relationships with
00:16:42.180 animals um inappropriate yeah like sexual relationship with animals it's called bestiality
00:16:48.360 I ask that.
00:16:49.520 You have to ask that question?
00:16:50.540 Yes.
00:16:51.980 What percentage of people have inappropriate relationship with animals?
00:16:55.220 It depends what part of the country you're in.
00:16:57.420 Usually East Coast or West Coast, very low.
00:17:01.260 Middle America tended to be higher.
00:17:05.200 That's crazy to me.
00:17:06.600 Is it because of what?
00:17:09.240 I think, I'm going to tell you this, you don't know people.
00:17:14.220 Everybody thinks they know people.
00:17:15.340 You don't know people.
00:17:16.060 And the one thing I learned is you don't, you can't vouch for anyone, although we want
00:17:19.660 to, you don't really know human beings.
00:17:22.060 And so my job was to make sure that this was a healthy human being, a safe human being.
00:17:27.580 This is a person you're going to give a gun to, multiple guns, right?
00:17:31.640 Automatic weapon, because we had weapons that could fire automatically, shotgun, they're
00:17:35.620 going to have acts to that.
00:17:36.740 Then you're going to put them in the White House with the most powerful person in the
00:17:39.940 world who's around the other most powerful people in the world.
00:17:42.440 so you really really really have to be careful who you let in so behavior towards animals whether
00:17:48.460 it's sexual contact or relations with animals or abuse towards animals okay so this guy am i like
00:17:54.480 completely no no i actually love this but is this guy the did he eventually say yes i did kill cats
00:18:01.720 when i was younger so i asked him about his behavior and we had a list of did you engage in
00:18:07.040 this. And so sometimes, sometimes people might tell you, sometimes people might give you an
00:18:12.820 indication. So if I'm talking to you, let's say, Patrick, and the whole time you're looking down
00:18:17.580 while I'm talking to you, I'll leave you alone. I'll let you look down. But if I go to a topic
00:18:22.000 and then all of a sudden you look up and make eye contact with me, I'm going to say, why'd he just
00:18:26.360 do that? Or if you're sitting like this the whole time and then ask you the question about the
00:18:32.260 animal and then you start doing this with your hand, I might notice those small things. They're
00:18:36.340 small it doesn't mean you're lying but it does tell me you don't like this question and i need
00:18:41.600 to figure out why what most recruiters do is they get their list this is for my hr folks listen up
00:18:47.620 you get your list you go through your questions you're not even looking at the person look at
00:18:52.280 the person if you don't like the way they answer or it just seems off just ask follow-up questions
00:18:58.000 tell me a little bit more about that don't call out what you see hey when i asked you that question
00:19:02.260 you said don't do that because that's their tell and you want to have their tell do not correct
00:19:06.960 behavior but it is your job to ask more questions and more questions and so you get people to tell
00:19:12.760 you a story the other thing you can do in the beginning of interviews is just can i offer you
00:19:19.240 something can i get you a drink can i get you a snack would you like anything make small talk
00:19:23.480 and one thing that also helped out when i did interviews is i had the person's info even when
00:19:28.280 we did arrest i knew all the other person's info i had their name their date of birth their address
00:19:32.380 but you know what i did i went with a blank sheet of paper hi nice to meet you what's your name
00:19:36.700 spell that for me what's your date of birth i would ask them questions i knew the answers already
00:19:41.200 too because i'm trying to understand who they are when they are in a relaxed non-threatening
00:19:46.180 environment unless of course they're lying to me about who they are but usually your name your
00:19:50.540 date of birth your social i'm not threatened by those questions so i get to see you as as you
00:19:55.820 then I shift to the job related questions and then I will see a shift happen and then when
00:20:02.580 those shift happens I'm like at what point did your behavior change when I asked you about drugs
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00:20:44.820 And you know this already when you're asking the fired part.
00:20:47.200 No.
00:20:47.720 A lot of times I don't know anything because people lie.
00:20:51.140 you know look if you really want that job you can be a good human being like look i really want this
00:20:55.020 job but if i tell them i did this much drugs i'm afraid i won't get hired they would look at it as
00:21:00.480 an integrity thing a lot of times i would see people lie and had they told the truth they would
00:21:06.680 have gotten the job but some people lie and then it comes out and then at that point it's like look
00:21:11.700 you already took your poly you lied it's an integrity thing so at what point did you find
00:21:15.860 out with this guy that he was killing cat polygraph that was in the polygraph yes and it's just a
00:21:20.120 question i'm like hey tell me about your relationship with animals yeah and he said i've
00:21:23.620 killed cats before yes not exactly we we had to get to that point my dad would never be able to
00:21:28.200 be a secret service agent because he can't stand animals his mother had 12 cats two dogs two pairs
00:21:32.840 two snakes and all these pigeons all his siblings love animals his kids love animals my dad cannot
00:21:40.740 stand animals if they touch him it drives him insane and we love cats and dogs so if dad's
00:21:46.880 watching this right now you would never be able to be a secret service agent as long as he doesn't
00:21:51.860 harm we're looking at he harmed one of them we were iran we were in fourth floor and we had
00:21:56.820 secretly been hiding a cat in our apartment my mom my sister knew about this he comes and he
00:22:01.720 smells it he smells it because he's getting allergic so he finds out there's been a cat
00:22:07.180 living in this place for like a week he went outside put some martadella with hot sauce
00:22:10.800 cat ate the martadella hot sauce never came back ever again so you can't hire my dad he's 84 years
00:22:16.160 old but it'd be it'd be a difficult hiring process so today in the corporate side when you're hiring 0.94
00:22:21.720 like that one lady you were talking about the contract say ten thousand dollars all this stuff 0.99
00:22:25.060 and she put those things in the contract what interview questions do you ask with somebody
00:22:29.560 that's going to be a high level of hire are there two or three questions you ask in every one of
00:22:34.720 your interviews i think you can ask one thing you can ask is why do you want to work for me
00:22:39.200 i think that's an important question and so i actually used to ask that in the polygraph
00:22:43.920 and why do you want to become a U.S. Secret Service agent?
00:22:47.780 And I'll give you an example.
00:22:48.780 And you usually get two types of answers.
00:22:50.500 I want to be an agent because I want to challenge myself.
00:22:53.120 I want to see what I can do or if I can make it.
00:22:55.500 And another type of answer would be I want to serve.
00:22:58.040 I want to do something greater than myself.
00:23:00.160 I want to serve my country or I believe in the cause.
00:23:04.620 What's the difference here, do you think, between these two folks?
00:23:08.620 What's the difference?
00:23:09.200 Between the cause?
00:23:10.820 This guy who wants to do it for whom?
00:23:13.220 Him, himself.
00:23:14.200 And this person who wants to do it for what?
00:23:15.980 Mission over, you know, that's a we, that's a me.
00:23:18.980 Thank you.
00:23:19.860 So that's just something to pay note, to pay attention to.
00:23:22.760 So if you ask the question, why do you want to work for me?
00:23:25.480 What answers are red flags?
00:23:29.200 If the person's very focused on themselves, I just would just pay attention to that.
00:23:34.240 Because that's a person who's like, I'm a me person, not a team person.
00:23:39.360 And that is going to be difficult.
00:23:41.380 if i come in really with this microcosm of like me me me me me and i don't understand
00:23:47.700 or i'm not about the collective group then that lets you know that this person could be an issue
00:23:53.200 later on that they're really focused on themselves i mean look at i don't have to tell you how many
00:23:57.540 how long do people stay on jobs now not before they leave no exactly why are they coming in how
00:24:01.920 much money am i going to make my students i was an adjunct professor about a decade city university
00:24:07.320 of new york and i taught criminal justice criminology psychology and i would have students
00:24:11.060 come up to me sometimes ask me about the secret service anytime i had a student ask me hey how
00:24:15.900 much does a secret service agent make i'm interested you know what i would tell them
00:24:19.660 not for you not for you that job is not for if you're looking to make money go do something else
00:24:25.420 that job's not for you so these are indicators that can show you the type of person you're
00:24:31.000 bringing that's that's one thing to look at i would really look at gaps or spaces in the resumes
00:24:36.140 And I would ask them, tell me about this job.
00:24:38.740 Why did you leave this job?
00:24:41.680 Always ask why they left.
00:24:43.620 Why did you leave?
00:24:44.800 Why did you know what happened?
00:24:46.240 And that's when you can find out where they fired and they're not telling you.
00:24:49.640 Yeah.
00:24:50.040 Those are things.
00:24:50.660 It doesn't necessarily mean you shouldn't hire a person.
00:24:53.140 I really look at the integrity of a person.
00:24:55.240 If somebody's going to tell you the truth to me, that speaks volume.
00:24:58.940 If they're being evasive, then I would be careful because I also look at it this way.
00:25:03.200 If you're going to lie to me about the small things and that's to get the job,
00:25:08.080 what are you going to do when you get the job and you mess up?
00:25:10.440 Cause you will mess up.
00:25:11.400 Yep.
00:25:12.080 You're going to lie about other things.
00:25:13.100 It's going to happen.
00:25:13.540 We just went through this a few months ago.
00:25:15.420 We were hiring a guy very excited about him.
00:25:18.040 We've done a handful of interviews with him and he says he graduated from a
00:25:21.540 very big school in America.
00:25:23.320 Very,
00:25:23.740 very big school school.
00:25:24.700 You would,
00:25:24.960 you and I would know about.
00:25:26.340 And then we went through the background check process and we contacted the
00:25:28.980 school.
00:25:29.880 Never went to the school.
00:25:30.800 He says,
00:25:31.020 well,
00:25:31.100 I'm going to get the degree for you.
00:25:32.340 I have it.
00:25:32.720 I'm moving.
00:25:33.200 no problem monday tuesday thursday friday monday never heard back never but with ai this is a part
00:25:41.320 of it why i think nowadays an interview ai being a good filter because there's no bias we notice
00:25:48.720 in our company where our hr a lot of them were from jersey so next thing you know we're hiring
00:25:54.200 all these people from jersey i'm like why do we have so many people from jersey i went and found
00:25:58.340 that three other people that worked in HR that are hiring people are all from Jersey.
00:26:02.780 So the moment you would say, I'm from Jersey, no way, me too, what part, get out of here,
00:26:06.060 I'm growing.
00:26:06.780 So there was an emotional connection, not necessarily if they would do the job better
00:26:10.500 than a guy that's from Kentucky or Tennessee, right?
00:26:13.620 So we added the interview AI component to the hiring, and it spits out a score.
00:26:18.300 There is no emotional connection.
00:26:20.180 Is it a fit with culture?
00:26:22.120 Is it a fit with skill set?
00:26:23.160 Is it a fit with experience?
00:26:24.240 And then that would be one of the indicators outside of the other interviews that we do
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