Valuetainment - October 26, 2026


The President Who Broke Protocol for Handshakes

Ex-Secret Service Agent’s Polygraph Caught an Applicant Who Set Cats on Fire

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10 minutes

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193.26

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1,964

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119


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00:00:00.000 It's a very different election today than pre-Nixon Kennedy.
00:00:03.240 Pre-Nixon Kennedy, you just had to add a good voice and you could speak monotone.
00:00:07.300 Nobody cared.
00:00:07.920 Today, you have to charm the audience to win, right?
00:00:10.100 So from all the presidents you worked with that you spent a lot of time with in rooms,
00:00:14.320 the Bush senior, GW, Obama, Ford, Clinton, who was the most charming out of all of them?
00:00:21.920 They were all different.
00:00:22.900 I think President Clinton was very good at engaging the audience.
00:00:27.460 I don't want to say he was a charmer.
00:00:28.940 I just think he but it was natural it wasn't manufactured he'd walk into a room it'd be a
00:00:33.780 thousand people and if he talked to you you felt like he was just talking to you so he's very good
00:00:39.360 at that he was also very good I noticed at repeating people's names when he met them
00:00:43.220 so he you know you'd say hi I'm I'm Patrick and he would say oh hi Patrick so nice to meet you
00:00:50.340 where are you from Patrick oh oh oh I love that area Patrick oh do you know so and so like so
00:00:56.580 So for the people that say I'm terrible with names,
00:00:59.520 this is all you have to do.
00:01:00.800 In fact, there's brain scan studies done
00:01:03.520 that when people hear their name, their brain lights up.
00:01:07.520 It gives them an oxytocin hit, makes them feel good.
00:01:11.220 So it's a really great way to build a genuine, authentic connection
00:01:14.680 by just showing someone, you told me your name
00:01:17.600 and I'm making an effort to remember it.
00:01:19.600 So I think President Bill Clinton was the best
00:01:22.160 at really connecting and engaging people.
00:01:25.060 And he liked it.
00:01:25.960 it was not fake it was not fake organic oh every time we had him we were always very and i think i
00:01:33.700 can share this we were always like please don't stop to talk to people because he would always
00:01:37.300 love to stop to talk to people and shake people's hands and for us that was a nightmare i want to
00:01:41.340 get you from the car to this door and to the stage and then done but along the way he'd be like oh
00:01:46.380 hey oh who's behind this door oh hey let's go say hi to these people and he was and so it would make
00:01:51.740 him late because he wanted to engage people. We always try to keep crowds of people as far away
00:01:56.400 from him as possible because he would always want to go shake their hand. But it was who he was.
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00:02:31.920 How different were the others?
00:02:36.000 Everybody has their own special thing.
00:02:38.200 I remember George Bush Sr.
00:02:40.840 He was notorious for writing people handwritten notes.
00:02:44.060 Old school.
00:02:44.480 Yes, if you met with him, and this is the President of the United States, if you met with him and came to his office, he would send you a note card.
00:02:51.980 Thank you for taking the time to meet with me.
00:02:53.960 It was such a pleasure.
00:02:55.160 And, you know, I had a boss, a big high-up supervisor in the United States Secret Service who did that.
00:03:01.060 He would write us all notes and say, hey, bravo, I'm so happy you did a great job on this assignment.
00:03:07.320 We had President Bush at one of our events in 2019.
00:03:11.920 Senior or junior?
00:03:12.680 Junior.
00:03:14.080 And after the event was over with, we did the interview, great conversation, 6,000 people in attendance.
00:03:19.480 Kobe was there as well, Kobe Bryant.
00:03:21.500 And a week later, I got a card from him.
00:03:25.220 And it was, hey, Patrick, thank you so much for having me.
00:03:28.680 I really enjoy talking to you.
00:03:29.820 And a note is still in my office.
00:03:31.420 If you go to my office, the pictures are with he and I, and a note he sent me.
00:03:36.020 And it's small little things like that.
00:03:37.460 I read stories about Clinton that when he ran for office the first time president, he had collected 20,000 names and addresses, and apparently he sent every one of them a letter saying, I'm running, I love your support.
00:03:48.760 What would you say about the Obama or the junior?
00:03:52.480 I don't remember if President Obama did that, but he was very engaging with people, too.
00:03:56.880 Like, he would talk to people.
00:03:58.600 He would listen.
00:04:00.000 There was a genuineness to all of them.
00:04:02.200 Like, they were just themselves, but they each had something that they would give.
00:04:05.560 Look, President Obama, he would line up, take people's photos.
00:04:08.340 He would be present.
00:04:10.140 He would be present.
00:04:10.920 He might not get distracted as President Clinton would, but I would see him.
00:04:14.700 He would shake hands.
00:04:15.420 He would talk to people.
00:04:17.100 They care to make a genuine connection.
00:04:19.700 I don't care what side you're on.
00:04:21.820 To become President of the United States, there has to be something unique and special about you.
00:04:28.880 You're no dummy.
00:04:30.880 You're not going to get to that place by mistake.
00:04:33.800 Were they, did you see certain things where they were different in public than they were private?
00:04:38.440 Like, oh my God, today was a long day.
00:04:40.400 Or was it, was it a high level of consistency of public and private?
00:04:44.780 I mean, they're human, they're tired.
00:04:46.800 There's things that they would deal with, or sometimes you would deal, you know, they would deal with people who would speak very ill of them publicly.
00:04:54.020 And then they would see them personally and the person would be very different towards them.
00:04:58.760 It's like, and it was usually was not them.
00:05:01.060 it was the outside world that did it so you'd see like a member of congress who would just shred
00:05:07.180 them on national news and then they'd show up for like a picnic at the white house um actually this
00:05:13.400 happened to president barack obama i wrote about it so it's okay to share um because it was cleared
00:05:18.440 by the the service but he i remember he was working late at the oval and then he finished
00:05:24.100 he was going to walk back to the residence because there was a congressional picnic
00:05:27.660 And as I'm walking down the Oval Colonnade with him,
00:05:30.860 somebody comes, and they had IDs on,
00:05:33.080 so I knew that they were there,
00:05:34.640 like to get on the White House complex, you're vetted.
00:05:37.660 But I didn't know who he was.
00:05:39.700 And it was, oh my God, Mr. President, how are you?
00:05:42.020 This is my wife, these are my kids.
00:05:44.340 And the president just showed him the same gesture.
00:05:47.800 Oh, so wonderful to meet you, what school are you going to?
00:05:49.860 So I'm like, oh, they're close.
00:05:52.360 And can we take photos together?
00:05:53.780 And then at some point too, the person's behavior,
00:05:55.960 which I didn't know this was a Congress person yet,
00:05:58.300 was very like, I don't want to say groupie-ish,
00:06:00.700 but a little like, oh, Mr. President, Mr. President,
00:06:02.340 my wife, my daughter, my kid.
00:06:03.640 And I'm thinking, guy, he doesn't have time.
00:06:05.920 He's busy.
00:06:06.660 He's being very gracious to you already.
00:06:08.960 Kind of leave him.
00:06:10.300 Then when we leave and we go in the elevator
00:06:11.820 to go back up to the residence,
00:06:13.820 he's like, you know, that guy said horrible things about me.
00:06:16.280 He's gone on national TV
00:06:17.280 and said just terrible things about me.
00:06:20.660 And so I think that would be sometimes very hard for them
00:06:23.600 because when you're in public, you should say horrific things about me.
00:06:28.840 And then when we're together, it's like, oh, hey, I'm your best friend.
00:06:31.360 Come take a picture with my wife and kids.
00:06:33.840 That's a hard thing.
00:06:35.040 So I will say that they are highly resilient people.
00:06:38.300 They don't have a choice.
00:06:39.280 To take that position, you have to be able to handle the level of punishment
00:06:43.820 that comes with it.
00:06:44.840 You get massive punishment.
00:06:47.400 People are cruel.
00:06:49.060 And I'm not saying this like I get it, but people are just –
00:06:52.160 i always baffle like why do you think it's okay to just be so cruel i think there's no need and
00:06:59.800 i think it's the nastiest sport in the world it can't well today it's worse because it creates
00:07:05.400 engagement on on online on social i'm gonna get clicks let me see the craziest thing so i can get
00:07:11.720 clicks and people can view it right but you don't realize how infectious that that behavior is and
00:07:18.100 how influences devices and stuff. And it's a whole other conversation, but I have a four-year-old
00:07:23.720 and I have a four-month-old, no devices in my house, no screens in my house, Patrick.
00:07:28.340 My kid watches nothing. I will play music for her from YouTube. And all she can see is the
00:07:32.640 thumbnail, no video. I'm protecting her mind. I don't want her exposed and even cartoons and
00:07:39.120 all that other stuff. That's a whole other animal, the addictiveness of some of the stuff online,
00:07:43.420 but i'm trying to protect her mind for as long as i can i don't want her exposed to things she
00:07:48.640 should not be exposed to there's so many aspects even just safety predator wise and while she is
00:07:54.780 young if you look at psychology of the development of us as a human being when they are young it's
00:08:01.500 when we have the most influence when they hit pre-teen teen behavior our influence drops
00:08:07.220 significantly and they care more about what their friends say so while now while i can now i will
00:08:12.600 command and own that time to shield her mind and protect her also from zero to six years of age
00:08:18.520 the brain the physical development of the brain is that it's it's doing the most work so the
00:08:24.900 synapses and receptors that we have in the brain they're being mapped out they're being created
00:08:29.540 and we're finding that the brain physically now looks very different in children who use devices
00:08:37.760 who are on screens versus kids that do not so these are all these things that are coming up so
00:08:42.340 i'm i don't want my kids exposed to the cruelty the meanness none of that stuff and made in
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