Valuetainment - January 25, 2026


“Giving Guns to a Crazy Man” - Tucker Suggest Iran Getting Nukes Would Make The World Safer


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Reza Pahlavi and Maria Carina Machado are seen together in a picture that went viral. Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is seen with Venezuela's first female presidential candidate. President Trump says Iran wants to talk about border peace with Israel and the Gaza Strip.

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00:00:00.000 A couple of things happened with Iran. Yesterday, a picture was going viral all over the place
00:00:05.900 of Reza Pahlavi seen with Korea Marina Machado. Rob, if we can zoom in on the tweet so I can read
00:00:12.140 the tweet as well. I don't know if you can do that. There you go. At the pleasure of meeting Reza
00:00:15.720 Pahlavi, we exchange insights on respective struggles and align our efforts, shared purpose,
00:00:19.920 the liberation of Iran and Venezuela. I express my deep admiration for the Iranian people
00:00:23.580 as authoritarian regime deepens their criminal cooperation. Those of us who stand for freedom,
00:00:28.700 the alliance of Caracas and Tehran has turned Venezuela into an epicenter of Iranian influence,
00:00:33.600 jeopardizing the security of the entire Western Hemisphere. The survival of these regimes is not
00:00:37.880 only a tragedy for our citizens, who overwhelmingly, at least if you're going to use chat GBT, clean it
00:00:43.640 up. By using Venezuela as a primary platform, the Iranian regime fuels instability, terrorism, 0.93
00:00:49.840 and transnational criminal networks that expand, extend far beyond our networks. A free Iran and 1.00
00:00:54.660 free Venezuela more than just goals. Okay, so you see this picture. Everyone's like, oh my God, look
00:00:59.840 what's going on. Why are they together? It's the right people to be together. They have a lot in
00:01:04.560 common. The difference is Maria Carina Machado lives in Venezuela. She's there every day. She's been there
00:01:11.940 her entire life pretty much. She's been involved there. She's with her people. Reza Pahlavi has been
00:01:18.560 outside for 48 years independently. He's not been in Iran. She is. However, both of them
00:01:25.380 have a lot in common. They're countries. You know, the leader of Iran was replaced Maduro. Okay,
00:01:31.900 which is no longer there. He's in New York or wherever he's at now at this place. He could be
00:01:36.140 in DC or in New York. You know, where the moment Maduro failed, president didn't come in and
00:01:42.540 automatically give it to Edmundo Gonzalez or Maria Carina Machado. It's like, no, let's just do another
00:01:47.180 election and see what happens. Now on the streets, everybody is saying, well, something's about to
00:01:51.080 happen to Khamenei. There's reports that Lazard CEO Peter Orzog predicts something big that happens 0.57
00:01:59.480 in Iran over the next few days. And by the way, this is a story from yesterday. Rob, is this the
00:02:04.120 clip of him talking about it? Go for it. I think it's very likely that over the next few days, there
00:02:09.320 will be something that happens in Iran. You do? It might be something big, yes. Why do you think
00:02:12.940 that? I did, well, from a variety of different, you know, sources, indirect information. And also,
00:02:21.400 to your point, I think it's entirely possible the United States was waiting for the carriers to arrive,
00:02:27.580 was waiting for them, for the carriers to arrive. So that the Greenland story is just a head fake?
00:02:33.640 I don't know about a head fake, but it has the fact of it has that effect, even if that's not the intent.
00:02:40.240 And that would mean what? How does that play out if that's actually the case?
00:02:44.200 Then the big question becomes, can you actually do regime change through effectively a bombing
00:02:50.020 campaign? And I don't think we have any history in which that's effective, but we'll see. It
00:02:56.180 depends what the objective of what happens is. If it's to take out the ballistic missiles,
00:02:59.860 that can be successful. If it's regime change, you know, that's got a more checkered history.
00:03:05.320 Okay. So now you watch this and watch what happens next. A couple of stories. The president
00:03:10.960 says the following, he says, Iran claims, Trump claims, Iran does not want to talk,
00:03:17.140 does want to talk, and we'll talk as he rolls out border peace. Is this it, Rob?
00:03:21.400 It's a short clip, but yes. Go for it.
00:03:24.220 And Iran does want to talk, and we'll talk.
00:03:27.880 That's it. That's a long clip, Rob. That is the shortest clip we've ever put up that was
00:03:35.260 phenomenal, right? But he commented about this in passing at Davos, establishing an international
00:03:42.000 border peace and overseas ceasefire between Israel and Hamas and the Gaza Strip. And then
00:03:46.400 while this is going on, Iran protests numbers are looking at 20,000 plus. Some reports are saying
00:03:52.980 30,000. Some have even said 50,000. The lowest number you read everywhere is around 3,500
00:03:58.440 to 4,500 killings. I've seen the videos, the videos that are being sent. Some of them were
00:04:03.340 sent to me this morning. Absolutely devastating, tragic to even take a look at. Number of people
00:04:09.340 reported killed in Iran's protests crossed on a surge with one UN special reporter saying the
00:04:14.900 total could be around 20,000. U.S.-based human rights activist news agency said it's verified 5,002
00:04:20.840 deaths and is reviewing a further 9787 while more than 26,000 people have been arrested. Iranian
00:04:26.880 authorities reported 3,117 deaths and of which 2427 are considered innocent, including members
00:04:34.300 of the security forces, but doesn't provide a breakdown to refer to any civilians. And by the
00:04:40.360 way, this is what they had to say yesterday. Iran warns Trump not to take action against the
00:04:47.880 Supreme Leader, Khamenei. Rab, if you want to play this clip, go forward.
00:04:51.920 He says Trump's military reminds me of Hitler that got stuck in Russia. Iran is like the Russian 0.98
00:05:12.760 winter. I don't want a long war. I will carry out one short attack. 0.81
00:05:16.800 I don't want a long war. I will carry out one short attack.
00:05:21.800 You would ask for another ceasefire? Do you think Iran would agree to that? Do not advance any further.
00:05:38.800 This is indeed a serious matter, but our armed forces are ready. Not only do we have our finger on the trigger, the bullet is already chambered.
00:05:56.840 The bullet is already chambered.
00:06:00.880 Every night to Mr. Trump dreams of Iran's oil.
00:06:15.880 Okay. So how do you process that? Because Tucker said the other day, he said he believes, I think, Rob, if you want to find this tweet, Tucker said he believes the Middle East would be safer, I'm paraphrasing, we can validate, that if Iran had nuclear weapons, right?
00:06:34.980 I think he said that. Again, right there, Rob, go above it. Go above it with the Iranian flag. No, no, go a little bit low, Rob. Right there. Right in front of you. Right there. Rob, right above it, Rob. 0.90
00:06:45.580 Yeah, that one.
00:06:46.380 No, no, right there. That one right there. Yeah, there you go. Is that what it's saying, Rob?
00:06:50.980 There you go. Tucker Carlson says a nuclear armed Iran could deter attacks, limit U.S. and Israeli intervention and reduce pressure on Tehran, potentially stabilizing the region and making war or regime change less likely.
00:07:06.440 Vinny, do you agree?
00:07:07.960 Just so I'm, because I'm not geopolitically versed that much, is he talking about the same Iran that says death to America?
00:07:17.660 Yes. Can we just make sure, is that the? Yes. Okay. I absolutely disagree with him 1,000%. And going back to the, who was the CEO? Of what was it?
00:07:27.940 Rob, which one is this, Rob? This is from the Tucker Carlson Network. This is.
00:07:32.980 Okay. Thank you for finding this. So could the Iranians obtaining the bomb wind up being a good thing? 1.00
00:07:39.700 Whether anyone in the foreign policy establishment admits it, North Korea's nuclearization has undeniably stabilized the Korean Peninsula. 0.99
00:07:46.220 The region has seen no wars, coups or interventionalists, forced regime changes since 06.
00:07:51.400 Would Iran becoming a nuclear power have the same effect on its region?
00:07:55.380 Could it finally prompt America to leave the area alone and incentivize Israel to drop its stated goal of continuing control in the Gaza Strip and weak the West Bank?
00:08:02.960 Would it make the Iranian government less oppressive? Because it wouldn't have to worry about the West's constant decapitation ambitions? Vinny.
00:08:12.200 We're talking about a regime in a country that currently, and by the way, obviously you're not going to believe their numbers, over 20,000 civilians, they're not getting killed because they're riding each other.
00:08:24.880 The government is shooting and killing people, protesting because they have had enough. 0.91
00:08:30.640 We didn't come in there, whatever stupid story you heard of other countries coming in and starting this revolution, it became, it's a breaking point for these people. 1.00
00:08:39.980 Okay. They're starving. They are pissed off and they want change. Okay. 0.99
00:08:43.720 And giving that government nuclear weapons, and I'm not saying we're the perfect freaking government in the world, but guess what?
00:08:49.580 We're keeping things pretty, pretty damn safe around the world.
00:08:54.280 So, and by the way, when that guy was talking about, I think something's going to happen in the next couple of days, I do agree that that might be one of the tactics.
00:09:00.380 I'm not the Greenland. Greenland thing was going to happen regardless, but our, our ships are getting into place to do something.
00:09:06.920 But at the end of the day, with this regime change, everybody's talking about who's going to be the change.
00:09:12.800 Who's going to be the guy? Who? Who? It's not going to be Reza Pallavi.
00:09:17.080 I'm sorry to all the people out there that are going to get pissed off and furious.
00:09:21.060 He's staying in Washington with his wife and his kids. 0.95
00:09:24.980 He's not going to go there and be the freaking leader that they're begging him to be. 0.95
00:09:28.620 So all those people, they're going to make these videos sitting in their cars, getting mad at you and getting mad at me. 0.95
00:09:34.220 He's not the guy. Once you realize that, then they can shift their focus, Pat, and find someone.
00:09:40.460 There has to be somebody in that group that's willing to step up and say, hey, I'll do it.
00:09:45.160 Because he's not going to do it. So, I mean, I don't know. I don't know the next couple of days that they're going to do something.
00:09:50.460 But, but to say that Iraq, yeah, let's give the people that want to kill us nuclear weapons. 0.85
00:09:55.580 Okay. Great idea. 0.96
00:09:56.880 Tom, what are you at with this?
00:09:57.840 So, they're not rational.
00:09:59.800 What I just looked up here is a simple piece of history that I think Tucker may be thinking about, but I'll tell you something.
00:10:09.040 This is not a rational state. India and Pakistan, they go way back, right, with each other. 1.00
00:10:16.100 Of course.
00:10:16.720 India conducted peaceful nuclear explosion in 74.
00:10:20.280 However, it then was 26 years later on May 11th and 13th, 1998, declaring itself a nuclear armed state.
00:10:28.620 On May 28th, 1998, in the Shikai Hills, Pakistan conducted a nuclear test and said, we now are a nuclear club in response to it.
00:10:39.260 When is the last time nuclear in Pakistan have had anything more than a border skirmish?
00:10:43.660 Small arms fire, right?
00:10:45.040 They haven't.
00:10:46.340 Because they're both nuclear powers.
00:10:48.140 And it's like, I got it, you got it.
00:10:50.020 Now, guess what?
00:10:51.400 If we don't both want to get it, then neither one of us should push the button.
00:10:54.800 Those are rational states, you know what I mean, Pat?
00:10:57.980 Those are rational states that now both had the big gun.
00:11:01.300 I don't think the Islamic regime is a rational state. 1.00
00:11:06.540 You know, India was not suicidal against Pakistan.
00:11:10.660 Pakistan was not suicidal against India.
00:11:13.900 Whereas when you get to the radical Islam states, they are suicidal when they come to their objectives. 0.99
00:11:21.640 And I do not think it would stabilize the region. 0.97
00:11:24.180 I think you're kind of giving the gun to a crazy man. 0.61
00:11:27.660 Oh, well, let's hope he behaves like all the other nations that have become nuclear powers and kind of just say, hey, I got the bomb too, man. 0.96
00:11:34.660 Don't mess with me casually.
00:11:36.460 That's not the way this is working out.
00:11:39.180 Adam.
00:11:40.420 I love when Tucker Carlson talks because the more and more he talks, it makes normal, rational people seem brilliant.
00:11:49.380 Because the stuff he says, you're like, what?
00:11:53.920 What is he?
00:11:54.940 Did he really just say he wants Iran to have nuclear weapons?
00:11:59.860 The regime that's killing their own people he's advocating?
00:12:03.800 This doesn't make sense.
00:12:05.820 So, Tucker, please keep talking.
00:12:07.480 Number two, that photo op with Maria Karina Machado and Reza Pallavi, if we can pull that up real quick, that's a cute photo op.
00:12:18.500 That's great.
00:12:20.980 It's going nowhere.
00:12:22.540 I don't think either of them are going to be the leaders of their prospective countries.
00:12:26.020 You know, we talk about movies, right?
00:12:27.640 Sinners.
00:12:28.420 Sinners is now the number one most nominated movie.
00:12:31.560 Not all countries are the same.
00:12:32.960 If you were going to give Venezuela a rating in terms of how bad they are as a country, how bad they are to their people, they are rated R.
00:12:42.320 Iran? 0.79
00:12:43.180 The Islamic Republic of Iran?
00:12:45.900 Triple X. 0.86
00:12:47.760 The worst of the worst of the worst of the worst.
00:12:50.560 And Tucker wants to give them nuclear weapons?
00:12:53.020 Not on my watch.
00:12:54.500 Last point.
00:12:55.040 And unfortunately, this is not going to be good news, in my opinion, to people who want to see the Islamic regime fall.
00:13:02.960 I don't believe anything's going to happen until the supreme leader meets the supreme maker.
00:13:10.140 Because while that guy's in power, he runs the army, he runs the IRGC, right?
00:13:16.980 And they're willing to die for him.
00:13:18.680 And they're willing to protect their Sharia law beliefs?
00:13:22.900 Question for you.
00:13:23.840 Question for you.
00:13:24.480 Yes, sir.
00:13:25.380 And question for all you guys.
00:13:26.860 And I'm just curious to know what you would say about this.
00:13:28.480 By the way, if you pull up the Kalshi report you found, Rob, about Ali Khamenei out as a supreme leader.
00:13:34.420 If you go back, and by the way, we're talking about almost $10 million.
00:13:41.240 Holy moly.
00:13:41.840 This is a real number.
00:13:43.480 Look what it was on January 8th of him falling and being out.
00:13:47.940 75% was January 8th.
00:13:51.140 What's January 8th?
00:13:52.400 You're talking two weeks ago.
00:13:53.820 Two weeks.
00:13:54.600 He was at 75%.
00:13:56.980 He's at 45% today.
00:13:59.080 That's when the riots and closers.
00:14:00.160 It's gone down.
00:14:00.840 It's gone down.
00:14:01.580 It's settled down.
00:14:02.100 And by the way, that is before September 26th.
00:14:07.180 September 21st, 2026, which is eight months from now.
00:14:10.000 Seven months from now.
00:14:10.760 Then it goes July 1st, all this other stuff.
00:14:13.920 So momentum of that has been gone.
00:14:17.660 You know, keep this in mind.
00:14:19.920 We could be getting closer and closer and closer.
00:14:22.300 And all of a sudden, Trump doesn't attack.
00:14:24.020 And the world is like, well, you know, he backed that.
00:14:25.900 He didn't do anything.
00:14:27.140 The man is unpredictable and fluid.
00:14:28.900 And they'll make the decisions.
00:14:31.460 If there's one thing we've noticed with a pattern, they've known since August they were going to be attacking Venezuela.
00:14:37.080 And the way they were going to be doing it.
00:14:38.140 They've been planning.
00:14:38.700 Delta has been planning it since August.
00:14:39.940 It's not a new thing that they weren't doing.
00:14:43.280 So all the other stuff.
00:14:44.480 And I even had somebody that was on the military side told me the other day that, you know, Maduro could have even agreed to a deal for this to happen as long as he doesn't look like he escaped.
00:14:56.680 Hey, just come and get me safely.
00:14:58.080 I'm going to do this, do this, do that.
00:14:59.540 And you guys can come at this time and I'm going to be able to leave.
00:15:02.100 There's many different speculations of what happened there.
00:15:04.200 But going back to the conversation with Iran getting nuclear weapon, question for you.
00:15:09.700 If you had the power to decide this, would you be okay with Iran getting nuclear weapon, the government, as long as its citizen can have firearms and they have Second Amendment?
00:15:22.060 Or are those two different separate issues?
00:15:26.260 I think it's separate.
00:15:27.080 Iran gets nuclear weapon, but their people can have M-16s, M-4, guns, you know, they have their own, be able to protect themselves.
00:15:34.800 So if the government regime, the Hezbollahs want to come in and destroy their lives, they can't do because now they're armed.
00:15:39.760 Would you entertain that idea?
00:15:41.360 If the leadership is who?
00:15:43.820 Staying as Khomeini? 1.00
00:15:45.360 No.
00:15:45.660 No, don't forget about the leadership.
00:15:47.760 No, no, no, no, because I don't think the decision to launch and go there would have anything to do with Second Amendment because what are they going to do?
00:15:55.700 If the government right now, our government, wanted to go all out attack, you can't, I worked at a nuclear missile base, you can't get to them.
00:16:02.240 They're in a secure bunker.
00:16:04.760 Even the missileers are hidden away. 0.99
00:16:07.400 Underneath, you're not going to get to them.
00:16:09.020 So I don't think it's two separate things.
00:16:12.000 No correlation between them.
00:16:12.880 No correlation because you're not going to stop the people that are actually pushing the guns to launch.
00:16:17.240 Period.
00:16:18.320 Tom.
00:16:18.640 What do you think?
00:16:20.720 I wouldn't make that trade.
00:16:23.720 Would I like to see the citizens of Iran armed? 0.84
00:16:27.680 Would I think that the protests would change overnight?
00:16:30.220 Yeah.
00:16:31.120 I do.
00:16:32.700 But I wouldn't trade both because the regime is crazy.
00:16:37.400 You know?
00:16:37.540 The regime is just, their mission, their instability.
00:16:44.500 I have a hard time.
00:16:45.080 I like to know what you think.
00:16:47.080 I didn't grow up there.
00:16:48.800 I just look at it from the outside and I'm like, I just don't trust the crazy man with the weapon.
00:16:53.100 I think you guys are right and I think I'm with you.
00:16:56.940 Because one is out.
00:16:59.100 So even if the U.S. government wanted to attack whoever else, they don't, who cares if we have guns?
00:17:04.440 They can go attack anybody if they wanted to.
00:17:08.860 But would I love Iranian people to have Second Amendment? 1.00
00:17:12.060 For sure.
00:17:12.760 It would be interesting.
00:17:14.640 Keep this in mind as well.
00:17:16.240 Just because an idea works in America doesn't mean that idea is going to work in a different place.
00:17:20.240 You know what I'm saying?
00:17:20.820 Sometimes we always think like it's, because culturally when you're raised in a certain way and you're more emotional.
00:17:28.880 You know, yesterday we're having dinner and I talked to you guys about a certain statistics study we've been doing with our team.
00:17:34.020 The world population of Christians is 32%.
00:17:37.260 The world population of Muslims is 24.9%.
00:17:42.500 Follow these numbers here.
00:17:44.480 32% U.S., the world Christian population, 24.9% is Muslim.
00:17:49.720 Let's say 25%.
00:17:51.000 Jews are 0.2% of the population.
00:17:54.200 I want to say Hindus are 15% of the population.
00:17:57.180 And you got Buddhists that are a percentage of the population.
00:17:59.960 So 32, 25.
00:18:01.880 Of the world's billionaire population, U.S. Christians are 33%.
00:18:10.080 Muslims are 7%. 1.00
00:18:13.000 The world's population of millionaires, Christians, 56%. 0.98
00:18:17.880 Muslims, 6%. 1.00
00:18:20.520 Jews, 0.2% of the world population, 19% of billionaires. 0.97
00:18:25.520 Okay?
00:18:26.140 And they're like another 2% of millionaires is what they got, right?
00:18:29.500 What does that tell you?
00:18:30.960 What does a Christian nation do? 0.98
00:18:33.880 It typically gets people to become rich and own and have equity.
00:18:38.760 And what happens when you own things?
00:18:40.120 What happens when you own a house?
00:18:42.340 You care more.
00:18:42.980 What happens when you own a business?
00:18:44.480 What happens when you have equity?
00:18:45.640 What happens when you're vested?
00:18:47.060 What is the word vested?
00:18:48.560 Like, you know when they say, I am fully vested with my shares.
00:18:53.000 But what does fully vested mean?
00:18:54.880 Forget about business.
00:18:55.800 It means you're what?
00:18:56.620 I'm all in.
00:18:56.840 You're committed.
00:18:57.720 I'm all in.
00:18:58.300 Okay, so a society who is not fully vested, they have nothing to lose, they're willing
00:19:05.860 to burn anything down.
00:19:08.480 Why?
00:19:09.420 Because they have nothing to lose.
00:19:11.880 Does that make sense?
00:19:12.480 So, to me, I don't know about the Second Amendment in Iran yet.
00:19:15.760 And until the economy does better, until people have more equity, until people are doing better,
00:19:22.660 then you could feel comfortable with people having, you know, weapons and Second Amendment
00:19:28.360 because they don't have a lot to lose.
00:19:30.460 The mentality is a very different mentality when talking about this.
00:19:34.780 Adam.
00:19:35.700 Well, I'll give you some examples.
00:19:37.620 Look at North Korea holding the world hostage.
00:19:40.440 Their citizens don't have food, much less guns.
00:19:45.040 So, do we want a regime that's despotic and autocratic, having nuclear weapons?
00:19:51.940 No way, Jose.
00:19:53.660 But not all countries are the same.
00:19:55.740 You talk about Christian countries versus, you know, Islamic countries or Arab countries.
00:20:00.820 Here's some countries where the citizens have guns, but the leaders don't have nuclear weapons.
00:20:06.240 Ready?
00:20:07.080 Switzerland, Finland, the Czech Republic, Canada.
00:20:10.880 They seem to be doing okay, with the exception of that Finnish leader who thinks he's tougher than Trump.
00:20:17.240 Here are the countries that don't have nuclear weapons, but their citizens have guns.
00:20:22.600 Let me know if you'd want to live in these countries.
00:20:24.580 Yemen, Afghanistan, Somalia.
00:20:27.820 Shout out to Minnesota.
00:20:29.380 Iraq, Libya, Syria.
00:20:31.560 So, not all countries are the same.
00:20:34.520 So, no, I don't want Iran having nuclear weapons, and I would love to see their citizens have the Second Amendment.
00:20:42.800 But, unfortunately, the Supreme Leader is stopping them from doing anything.
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