Valuetainment - September 08, 2026


“He Needs Rubio OUT” - JD Vance Strategy To Becoming The President


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00:00:30.000 everybody's wondering who's going to be running for president.
00:00:32.080 It's a lot of conversations of who's going to be running for president.
00:00:34.920 On the left, you see AOC, Newsom, Pritzker, you know, Ossoff, Tom's favorite,
00:00:40.000 and some of these names, Shapiro, Josh Shapiro, some of these names out there.
00:00:43.960 And Kamala still has her support.
00:00:45.340 And Kamala as well, yes, and possibly Hunter Biden and Don Lemon now
00:00:48.140 saying he's thinking about it.
00:00:49.540 On the right, you hear stories about, you know, J.D. Vance, maybe Rubio,
00:00:55.240 and a few other names.
00:00:56.720 And J.D. Vance recently was asked about Tucker.
00:01:00.000 because Tucker made comments about El-Sayed,
00:01:03.460 and El-Sayed is the guy in Michigan.
00:01:05.300 Tucker said, I would never vote for the opposing guy, Mike Rogers.
00:01:08.340 I think that his guy's...
00:01:09.140 Put a gun to my head, I wouldn't vote for him. 1.00
00:01:09.980 Yeah, if you put a gun to my head, 0.99
00:01:11.240 I don't know if we have that clip in the back. 0.99
00:01:13.040 If we have it for us to show it, if you put a gun to my head,
00:01:15.740 I wouldn't vote for him, right?
00:01:18.020 And is this it?
00:01:19.200 Is this a clip?
00:01:19.880 Go for it.
00:01:20.220 Let's hear this out.
00:01:20.920 Go for it.
00:01:21.920 Mike Rogers is really...
00:01:24.180 I wouldn't vote for Mike Rogers at gunpoint.
00:01:26.620 Right?
00:01:27.080 And so that's the candidate. 0.97
00:01:28.840 The guy, a literal loser who lost when Donald Trump won the state, just to show you how 0.93
00:01:34.020 much of a headwind he had at his back. 0.92
00:01:35.660 It was basically a tool of Israel and the intel agencies.
00:01:38.120 Right.
00:01:38.280 How would you run someone like that?
00:01:39.680 I don't even, it doesn't even make sense.
00:01:41.380 So that makes no sense.
00:01:42.780 Well, El-Sayed, look, El-Sayed is a full-blown DS, he doesn't call himself DSA, he's a full-blown
00:01:48.160 leftist.
00:01:48.860 I've known him for quite a long time.
00:01:49.940 I watch his campaign now, it's America first, the amount of times he says, he doesn't even,
00:01:55.260 And when he talks about Israel, he says Israel is committing a genocide.
00:01:58.360 But ultimately, I want to make sure that you don't pay more for health care.
00:02:02.460 I don't want your tax dollars going abroad.
00:02:05.140 You can pause it right there.
00:02:05.760 So now, that's El Saeed.
00:02:07.180 So as evil as Mike Rogers is, he's not as evil as El Saeed and what he believes in.
00:02:11.880 No. 0.75
00:02:12.320 So let's continue to allow more of them to have more power. 0.95
00:02:15.760 The DSA, the Socialist, the Islamist. 0.93
00:02:18.280 And so J.D. Vance was asked about this, his relationship with Tucker.
00:02:21.020 And here's what he had to say.
00:02:21.900 Go for it.
00:02:22.520 Carlson has called for the president's impeachment.
00:02:25.260 and many accuse him of trying to jeopardize U.S.-Israel relations.
00:02:28.860 What do you say to those who are uneasy with your close relationship with Carlson
00:02:33.020 and claim that you're avoiding addressing a lot of these issues
00:02:36.500 which may be causing divisions within the GOP?
00:02:38.900 Well, look, I'm not avoiding addressing anything.
00:02:41.260 Everybody knows that Tucker Carlson and I are friends,
00:02:43.700 and I think it's very obvious that Tucker has said some things that I disagree with.
00:02:47.400 He said some things about the President of the United States that I think are just wrong.
00:02:50.280 I think yesterday somebody sent me a clip that said that he would support El Syed over Rogers.
00:02:56.160 I think El Syed's a crazy person, and I think whatever your views on Mike Rogers' specific policy prescriptions,
00:03:02.260 I'd like to have a non-crazy person like Mike Rogers representing Michigan and the United States Senate 0.98
00:03:07.280 rather than a crazy person like El Syed. 0.99
00:03:09.860 That said, my attitude towards this, and I try to practice what I preach, 0.56
00:03:15.620 and I remember when I became the vice presidential nominee,
00:03:18.520 one of the hardest things for me personally is not when people attacked me, but when people
00:03:24.160 attacked my wife, including friends of hers who knew her heart, who knew what a good person she
00:03:29.480 was. And I remember thinking to myself, what a travesty it is that in the United States of
00:03:35.340 America, we let political disagreements define who our friends are going to be and not going to
00:03:40.520 be. So yeah, Tucker is a friend of mine. Tucker is a friend, despite the fact that we disagree
00:03:44.800 on a number of things, and I'm not going to play the game
00:03:48.000 where I throw friends under the bus because I have...
00:03:50.740 How do you feel about that?
00:03:51.660 I mean, I'm curious of what the president...
00:03:55.340 Because, you know, Trump hears this.
00:03:57.080 How does he think about this?
00:03:58.260 And mind you, J.D. Vance himself used to call Trump all types of names.
00:04:02.080 I don't know if he called him Hitler, literally Hitler,
00:04:03.780 or something like that, though, but there's no way that he could not...
00:04:08.540 The president doesn't hear this, and he is livid.
00:04:11.640 But again, this is J.D. Vance
00:04:13.960 Who, I mean, you called it out a while ago, Pat
00:04:15.780 I think, you know, his
00:04:17.500 Intentions and what he's going through
00:04:19.500 I think at some point, especially remember 1.00
00:04:21.340 Especially with Iran when he was in there
00:04:23.200 And he made it almost like 1.00
00:04:25.260 A fact to let
00:04:27.740 Everybody know that he was less enthusiastic
00:04:29.480 About the war in Iran, he's just putting
00:04:31.600 These little things so that when he does run
00:04:33.420 He can be like, hey guys, I wasn't with
00:04:35.580 Trump this whole time, I told you guys I was
00:04:37.560 Friends with Tucker, I'm not about this war
00:04:39.760 and let's just, you know, vote for me
00:04:41.700 because he's going to distance himself from Trump.
00:04:43.580 Do you think Trump trusts him?
00:04:44.860 I don't think so at all.
00:04:46.320 I don't think so.
00:04:47.480 Especially when the last time when he said,
00:04:49.260 hey, is J.D. Vance going to take you there?
00:04:50.540 He's like, nope, it's too early.
00:04:51.880 He cut them off very, very quick.
00:04:54.040 It wasn't like, yeah, you know, too early.
00:04:56.340 He's been going around apparently asking people saying,
00:04:59.260 I think J.D.'s the guy.
00:05:00.520 I think J.D.'s the guy.
00:05:01.920 He's been lobbying for him.
00:05:02.900 So I don't know.
00:05:03.540 I don't know.
00:05:03.920 Tom, where are you at with this?
00:05:05.400 So everybody's running for office.
00:05:09.020 That's where I am.
00:05:09.760 Do you think Tucker's running for office?
00:05:12.120 I think Tucker's thinking about it, and I think everybody is talking like they're running for office.
00:05:18.540 And J.D. Vance is here talking very carefully to keep the Tucker camp close.
00:05:24.520 That's clear.
00:05:25.360 I think it's very clear.
00:05:26.560 Otherwise, you're going to come out and you're going to support it.
00:05:28.620 And, by the way, you have to remember that, you know, think about political capital, Vinny, and who's angry and who's not.
00:05:37.220 Does it matter if Trump's frustrated with you or pissed off about a comment?
00:05:42.540 No.
00:05:43.200 Does it matter if Trump's support goes away?
00:05:46.860 Yes.
00:05:47.440 So I think J.D. Vance is trying to stay in that lane a little bit.
00:05:52.060 Hey, everybody knows Tucker's my friend.
00:05:54.460 I have a friendship there.
00:05:55.340 But there's some things he said about the president I think are just wrong.
00:05:59.140 Okay.
00:05:59.880 But I think this is all running language where everybody's trying to keep camps close, Pat.
00:06:04.800 That's how I read it.
00:06:05.720 Adam.
00:06:05.840 i have no clue what this dude is doing let me give you an analogy okay you're my boss you're
00:06:12.120 my mentor you're my friend if someone that i'm very good friends with is publicly talking trash
00:06:19.480 about you and i'm your co-host i'm your vice president at one point i'm gonna say hey listen
00:06:25.920 buddy i'm with team pat that's my boss you're really making things look very weird for me right
00:06:31.920 now please stop at that point that guy can continue to do what he's doing or actually stop
00:06:39.060 what's happening is tucker has basically heard that hey you're really making life worth tucker
00:06:44.120 goes yeah f you and your boss at some point you say no no no tucker was my friend he is no longer
00:06:51.380 my friend i don't understand how this relationship is sustainable if my good friend who i am still
00:06:58.400 calling a good friend is publicly talking trash not only about my president about my administration
00:07:05.380 and literally single-handedly ruining my chances of becoming president you would have to do more
00:07:11.940 than slap me in the face to get me to wake up I have no clue what he's doing and if JD Vance
00:07:17.300 thinks he's just going to basically inherit the uh MAGA coalition as if as if everything's cool
00:07:25.500 no issues jd you got another thing coming brother i don't get it i don't understand the move and
00:07:31.300 for all the people that are basically still romanticizing tucker like well he was so great
00:07:35.620 on fox things have clearly changed at some point you have to acknowledge he may have been your
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00:08:13.400 yeah you know the other day i was watching the debate between the president and jeb bush
00:08:18.520 And because I was preparing for the Ted Cruz interview,
00:08:21.120 so I was kind of watching some of this old debate stuff.
00:08:23.880 And it was one of the ones where he got up and he said,
00:08:26.820 hey, you see all the people that are clapping?
00:08:29.040 These are all the people that support Jeb Bush.
00:08:31.120 You know why?
00:08:31.900 Because they told us pre-debate,
00:08:33.840 the only people that are going to be able to get tickets for seats,
00:08:36.020 I was trying to get seats for my family and friends.
00:08:38.120 I couldn't get any of them because it was all the big donors
00:08:40.800 that gave money here, right?
00:08:42.180 It's true.
00:08:42.940 And then they started booing.
00:08:43.880 It's true.
00:08:44.200 Listen, this is all what they're doing.
00:08:45.340 They can do this all they want.
00:08:46.320 and then in one of the exchange.
00:08:48.560 So think about who Trump targeted on the Republican side,
00:08:53.140 not the Democratic side.
00:08:55.100 In the primary, Trump went out,
00:08:58.340 and all the guys that were there, the Carsons, the Huckabee,
00:09:03.100 the other guys that were there, the Ted Cruz,
00:09:05.480 there was even a guy named Scott Walker.
00:09:07.240 Scott Walker, Wisconsin governor.
00:09:08.840 Scott Walker, who was supposed to be the guy.
00:09:09.860 Little Marco.
00:09:10.820 Marco Rubio, Rand Paul.
00:09:13.180 It was quite a few of them.
00:09:14.220 What was a lady, the CEO of us?
00:09:16.360 Early Filarino. 1.00
00:09:17.600 Yeah.
00:09:18.040 Yeah.
00:09:18.780 So what did Trump do?
00:09:20.940 He attacked and he went after a lot of these guys.
00:09:23.800 Chris Christie.
00:09:24.620 And you got to think about how different is the 2027-2028 primary going to be?
00:09:31.420 Is it going to be one of those things, Tom, where do you remember the Democratic debate,
00:09:35.460 what it was like that they wouldn't fight?
00:09:37.920 I don't know if you remember.
00:09:38.800 Oh, yeah.
00:09:39.280 And there was no way to do shadow. 1.00
00:09:41.920 Kamala Harris at one time was like, you know, Joe, 0.92
00:09:43.840 I don't appreciate what you did with the buses and, you know, whatever it was.
00:09:46.960 I don't know if you remember that thing.
00:09:48.040 It really made me feel it.
00:09:49.040 So she went in on him, right?
00:09:50.640 And then the, I'm right here.
00:09:52.480 I'm right here, Joe.
00:09:53.320 I was in 2020, I believe. 1.00
00:09:54.680 There's no women that are leaders. 1.00
00:09:56.160 I'm right here. 1.00
00:09:56.820 I don't know if it's 2020.
00:09:57.920 I think that's 2016.
00:09:59.440 Yeah.
00:09:59.980 Was it 2020?
00:10:01.560 No, you're right.
00:10:02.360 Joe didn't run in 2016.
00:10:03.700 I don't know if it's, it could have been.
00:10:04.780 Anyways.
00:10:05.200 Yeah, yeah, it was 2020.
00:10:05.720 So when you think about that, how is this one going to be?
00:10:09.840 And which ones are going to hurt people?
00:10:12.160 Because I think the way J.D. is doing it, and remember, guys,
00:10:16.140 like the way in sports, sometimes you win with a quarterback,
00:10:18.360 sometimes Baltimore Ravens won without a quarterback.
00:10:20.380 Defense.
00:10:21.180 And they won with a defense.
00:10:22.160 Sometimes you win with a center, and the NBA nowadays wins without center.
00:10:25.900 Sometimes you win with a, you know, what do you call it, the three?
00:10:30.140 A big three.
00:10:31.060 Big three.
00:10:31.740 Sometimes you win with a big one, 0.95
00:10:33.420 and just a psycho killer comes in and crushes everybody, right?
00:10:37.320 So I think the 2028 campaign is going to be very different
00:10:41.940 because the guy you're going up against is not Trump.
00:10:44.900 But at the same time, the part that you have to be very, very careful with,
00:10:49.000 I have guys that try to be way too diplomatic.
00:10:53.380 You know what ends up happening to them?
00:10:54.660 They get crushed.
00:10:55.860 You really do.
00:10:57.120 People need to know your position, where you are.
00:10:59.500 Because if you don't know the position, I walk into a room and I'm like,
00:11:01.940 I don't really know where that guy stands.
00:11:04.020 So if I don't know where you stand, I don't know where to go with you.
00:11:07.480 And there is an element of power there for that individual,
00:11:11.320 but not the power to win at the highest level.
00:11:13.660 You can't.
00:11:14.420 Trump made it clear. 0.99
00:11:15.420 I'm not this, this, rhinos this, bullshit this, this, this, this, this, this, this. 0.99
00:11:20.240 And then you went up there. 0.98
00:11:21.680 You know, some people call us and say, hey, Pat, you know,
00:11:24.260 got to be careful, man.
00:11:25.200 You're in Florida.
00:11:25.780 You don't want to call anybody out in Florida that could end up being your governor.
00:11:28.740 I'm going based on my values.
00:11:30.240 I don't need any of these guys.
00:11:32.240 I'm not trying to do what I'm doing.
00:11:34.320 And to me, that vibe I got was Trump.
00:11:38.080 Trump was like, no, here's what I stand for.
00:11:39.660 I don't need you.
00:11:40.280 I don't need to be scared of walking on exhales for you.
00:11:42.120 Who are you?
00:11:43.260 He kind of went up.
00:11:44.280 So I don't know this idea of, you know, the relationships
00:11:51.440 and how this is going to pan out.
00:11:53.800 Are you thinking like you're going to be on stage and you're there
00:11:57.600 and Tucker's camp is there and they support you as well as conservatives?
00:12:01.360 who don't like what he stands for,
00:12:04.140 you think that percentage outweighs the other one?
00:12:07.340 I don't know.
00:12:08.400 Yeah, I watched Stephen Miller's wife, who runs this podcast. 0.97
00:12:11.860 She does a pretty good job, by the way.
00:12:13.480 She asked Marco Rubio.
00:12:14.960 And his wife.
00:12:16.000 Whether it was this interview or another one,
00:12:17.820 it was one of the ones where Marco Rubio was asked about Trump.
00:12:21.640 And then he says, look, politics is nasty, and you compete,
00:12:24.000 and you say certain things.
00:12:24.940 But let me tell you what happened with me.
00:12:26.080 The moment I started working with Trump,
00:12:27.680 I just realized how great of a man he was
00:12:30.340 and how he kept his word and how he was good to all of us
00:12:33.220 and how he was this and how he was that.
00:12:34.900 And, you know, you kind of sit there, you're like,
00:12:37.200 well, is that what J.D.'s strategy is?
00:12:39.540 I don't know.
00:12:40.140 I don't understand what's going to be happening here.
00:12:41.780 I just wonder if in his mind he's trying to keep everybody happy to run
00:12:46.900 and, unfortunately, if there is no other contender,
00:12:52.240 that strategy could work for him because he may be thinking to himself,
00:12:56.460 you know what's the biggest gift J.D. needs?
00:12:59.120 what do you think jd's biggest gift he wants marco rubio doesn't run marco rubio doesn't run
00:13:05.400 yeah trump's endorsement which no no no no no no no no this is it i think it's marco rubio look
00:13:09.780 what the santus just did the santus just endorsed byron donalds even though the santus said byron
00:13:14.100 donalds should debate the lieutenant governor everybody else he just endorsed him why because
00:13:18.260 he asked him what's what choice do you have yeah yeah what choice do you have you have to endorse
00:13:21.640 the guy right so it's coming so byron donalds kind of got away without having to do the debates and
00:13:26.680 getting all the heat he avoided but he's a debate dodger you can't you can't say you can't dispute
00:13:32.400 that he's a debate dodger right you know and so is this is this going to be rubio's jd's strategy
00:13:39.500 is going to be oh dude i'm going to only do two primary debates and if that because i'm going to
00:13:45.600 have such a massive lead where jd's biggest goal between now and primary is what one goal anything
00:13:53.820 in everything for one man
00:13:55.880 not to run.
00:13:57.680 And for that one man not to run is who?
00:14:00.160 Is Marco. If Marco
00:14:02.080 doesn't run, J.D. Vance
00:14:03.780 equals Byron Donalds. I don't need
00:14:05.840 to debate. Good point. I don't need
00:14:07.860 to debate. So watch if he even makes
00:14:09.880 the case to say he's only going to debate
00:14:11.820 once. Which, by the way, J.D. doesn't
00:14:13.940 have to worry about debating. He's a freaking phenomenal 0.88
00:14:15.760 debater. I don't think it's like he has to worry 0.70
00:14:17.880 about the debates and the call-outs. And
00:14:19.860 it's not like he has a lot of crazy 1.00
00:14:22.060 shit that people can call him out on. 1.00
00:14:23.820 You know, what are they going to say? 1.00
00:14:25.140 He's got a good life, good wife, family, values.
00:14:28.240 What are you going to say to J.D.?
00:14:29.260 It's not like he has a rap sheet.
00:14:31.120 He doesn't have that, right?
00:14:32.180 So, to me, I think J.D.'s biggest strategy is if I go up against anyone on the left,
00:14:40.780 I can handle AOC, I can handle this, I can handle that.
00:14:42.900 He's just got to convince one Republican not to run, and that's Marco Rubio.
00:14:48.400 That's his number one strategy above it all.
00:14:51.480 he will never say this because they're
00:14:53.460 friends. He'll never say this, but his
00:14:55.540 number one goal is to make, because the only
00:14:57.600 person formidable enough to beat him
00:14:59.360 is Marco Rubio. What are the odds
00:15:01.600 you think that Marco does
00:15:03.740 run in 2028?
00:15:05.260 You're right. This is the strategy they
00:15:07.520 all use. This is what Hillary, remember 1.00
00:15:09.600 she was trying to do what they call clear the 1.00
00:15:11.560 decks to make sure that nobody 0.99
00:15:13.460 thought they were going to pop their head up and run.
00:15:15.880 Did you guys lose audio or no?
00:15:17.500 No. Okay. Can you guys hear me?
00:15:19.080 As long as you can hear me. Jake, I just lost audio, but
00:15:21.480 If you guys can hear me, I'm good.
00:15:22.780 Keep going, Tom.
00:15:23.800 No, I was – and I'll let Vinny go.
00:15:25.800 But my point was very simply. 0.99
00:15:27.920 Hillary tried to clear the decks. 0.99
00:15:29.240 And one guy on free college and a few things got a little momentum,
00:15:33.200 and they had to assassinate him in South Carolina, and that was Bernie Sanders.
00:15:38.160 So the plan is always to clear the decks.
00:15:40.880 So what do you think?
00:15:41.900 What do you think here?
00:15:42.580 I agree with you.
00:15:44.660 Jake, I'm good.
00:15:45.560 I'm good.
00:15:45.920 My elbow rubbed it, and it lowered the audio.
00:15:47.740 The biggest deck-clearing mode would be Rubio grows to go out,
00:15:53.160 and then they whisper at everybody else, okay, nobody pop your head up.
00:15:57.580 I think J.D. has one mission.
00:15:59.800 Yep.
00:16:00.260 Anything and everything in his power for Marco Rubio not to run
00:16:04.000 because Marco is really that formidable.
00:16:06.760 And by the way, to the Republicans out there,
00:16:10.360 your goal should be everything and anything for Marco Rubio to run.
00:16:17.100 Why?
00:16:17.740 because we need the debate.
00:16:20.360 We need the better talent.
00:16:22.660 And it could be J.D. still winning.
00:16:24.560 It could be Rubio still winning.
00:16:26.320 But you need that competition.
00:16:28.680 We can't have this model of, oh, Byron doesn't need to debate.
00:16:32.000 I hate that.
00:16:33.760 I wish you knew how much I hate that. 0.53
00:16:36.580 I hate that.
00:16:37.900 He doesn't need to debate.
00:16:38.960 He's already got everybody beat.
00:16:40.280 They don't need to show up.
00:16:41.600 Is that really the brand of the Republican Party that we even dodge each other?
00:16:46.120 Maybe Lieutenant Governor Collins had a good argument.
00:16:48.660 Maybe Renner, I think Paul Renner needed the eyeballs because I think he's actually talent.
00:16:53.220 Fishback's got a younger audience.
00:16:54.840 You're going to say no?
00:16:55.820 You don't think you fired him up even more?
00:16:58.060 So I hope if Republicans are out there that you really want it, I hope you want that debate.
00:17:02.900 I hope you want Rubio and Vance on stage.
00:17:05.180 I just don't know how they're going to handle it.
00:17:07.420 Because I don't know either one of them are going to be hardcore tack mode.
00:17:10.200 You know, as Secretary of State, I think Rubio is the greatest Secretary of State of all time.
00:17:14.420 I've said this on record many times.
00:17:16.200 It was so easy to work with him, you know, and da-da-da-da-da.
00:17:19.200 But.
00:17:19.580 All right.
00:17:20.400 Yeah.
00:17:20.820 So then what?
00:17:21.780 And that's why I think I personally, I don't know, I don't think.
00:17:25.860 What are the odds that you think that Marco runs in 2000?
00:17:28.460 I'm not saying that we hope.
00:17:30.380 I don't know, man.
00:17:31.140 I think there's a lot of talks that he's not planning on running.
00:17:33.340 I hope that's not good.
00:17:34.280 And you know why?
00:17:34.700 I hope that's not good.
00:17:35.180 You know what I think?
00:17:35.780 They're going to put all their force behind J.D. Vance,
00:17:40.280 and I'm telling you right now,
00:17:41.400 because how many times does Marco run for president?
00:17:44.460 This will be his second time.
00:17:46.800 I don't think if he doesn't think he's going to win,
00:17:49.880 what, he's going to run again this one with J.D. being the lead
00:17:51.880 and then lose again, and then what, in four years he's going to run again?
00:17:54.820 Look, I think we're all bringing up Marco Rubio
00:17:57.000 because we know what a formidable candidate he is.
00:17:58.780 I think that time will come when he has to make a decision.
00:18:00.780 I want to bring this back to J.D. Vance.
00:18:03.800 What percentage do you think you want to give J.D. credit
00:18:08.180 for Trump getting elected in 2024?
00:18:10.820 What percentage do you give J.D. credit?
00:18:13.720 zero i agree with you meaning would he trump yeah he was no meaning trump could have any
00:18:20.840 candidate ohio i think pence helped trump more than vance in indiana by the way i like vance
00:18:26.680 more as a vp but i think pence helped trump yeah more become a president than vance helped he needed
00:18:31.540 that evangelical help i agree 2016 for sure you say zero maybe it's maybe it's one percent i think
00:18:36.960 it's meaning trump would have got re-elected yeah with or without yes so meaning jd vance
00:18:42.620 You didn't bring anything to the table.
00:18:44.260 Just don't ruin it.
00:18:45.720 When you have someone like Tucker calling Trump the Antichrist,
00:18:50.080 and I'm not even going to go in on Tucker about him.
00:18:52.240 I get that because that's personal to you.
00:18:54.720 Zero percent personal to me.
00:18:56.120 But to me.
00:18:56.920 It's personal.
00:18:57.680 What's personal to me is loyalty.
00:18:59.720 Trump brought you here, and you're not loyal to Trump.
00:19:02.720 That's not how politics.
00:19:03.140 You're vocally more loyal to Tucker as your friend.
00:19:07.440 That's not how they look at it.
00:19:08.180 Well, tell me how else you would look at it.
00:19:10.320 That world is so confusing.
00:19:14.020 99.9% of the world wouldn't understand that world.
00:19:17.920 That world is a very different.
00:19:19.400 Have you watched Brink of War?
00:19:21.560 No.
00:19:21.880 Okay, go watch it with Jeff Daniels.
00:19:23.420 It just came out now.
00:19:24.060 It's on Apple.
00:19:24.500 You should go watch it.
00:19:24.940 That's the Reagan thing?
00:19:25.760 That's the Reagan thing. 0.92
00:19:26.560 I think it is so nasty. 0.94
00:19:30.880 I think it's so nasty, so dirty, that everybody's like,
00:19:35.240 I'll apologize afterwards.
00:19:36.960 I think that's the world they're in.
00:19:38.660 I don't think you think it's how it is.
00:19:40.800 Now, keep in mind, a principle-driven guy like me, I'm not one of these guys.
00:19:46.420 I'm not.
00:19:47.140 To me, politically, that's why, you know, I'm here.
00:19:50.200 But when you get on the inside, you know, it's a very, very different world.
00:19:58.540 It's a very different world.
00:19:59.620 I don't think it's as black and white as you think it is.
00:20:02.320 Now, for the voter, there's a Wall Street Journal story that came out
00:20:10.100 that said Trump is more worried about his legacy
00:20:12.060 and Republicans are worried about midterms.
00:20:14.960 Trump doesn't care about the midterms.
00:20:16.220 That's a story that just came out with Wall Street Journal.
00:20:17.700 I think I saw it.
00:20:18.280 Yeah, yeah.
00:20:18.580 He doesn't care.
00:20:19.000 So meaning like, look, I'm doing my legacy.
00:20:21.040 You guys figure out midterms.
00:20:22.020 It's not my problem.
00:20:22.520 It's your problem.
00:20:23.880 He's at that point.
00:20:25.500 And by the way, there's also a percentage of Trump that,
00:20:30.200 You know, there's also a percentage of, there's a part of Trump that,
00:20:35.380 what percentage of Trump do you think he wants a Democrat to win, 2028?
00:20:39.280 Zero percent.
00:20:39.720 What percentage of Trump do you think he wants J.D. to win versus Marco Rubio?
00:20:47.160 My assumption, he's more of a Rubio guy than a J.D. Vance guy.
00:20:50.100 That's my assumption.
00:20:50.880 We're going to find that out.
00:20:51.780 60-40.
00:20:52.320 We're going to find that out here soon.
00:20:54.020 Whoever can carry on his legacy better and keep that coalition alive is, I think,
00:20:59.220 How much of, because I haven't been hearing any, all I've been hearing is about J.D. and nothing really about Marco.
00:21:04.660 How much do you think that the Iran war and how it's not going to stop anytime soon is one of the deciding factors of Marco not running?
00:21:11.620 Because that's going to be a hardcore debate point, Pat, for the left.
00:21:14.760 The left is going to say, hey, no wars.
00:21:16.840 We're in another forever war.
00:21:17.900 Like, how much of a decision do you think that's going to happen?
00:21:19.040 This is not Republicans against Democrats.
00:21:23.480 This is not Republicans.
00:21:24.680 To me, it's the primary.
00:21:27.640 To me, it's the primary because the primary dictates who wins the general.
00:21:34.080 This is a primary conversation.
00:21:35.840 You need Rubio in there for the primary conversation.
00:21:38.880 You do.
00:21:39.400 I'm worried that what happened to Florida is going to happen to the primary.
00:21:43.520 That's what I'm worried about.
00:21:44.380 They're going to just say go.
00:21:45.340 I really, really am concerned about them trying to do to Rubio, to J.D.,
00:21:53.180 what happened with Byron Donald.
00:21:54.680 I understand your concerns.
00:21:56.100 I just don't see that happening.
00:21:57.380 I think you have a DeSantis out there.
00:21:58.800 Do you think Rubio's going to run?
00:21:59.860 Whether Rubio runs or not, and I really want him to,
00:22:02.780 that guy has my unconditional support, I'll tell you.
00:22:05.180 DeSantis doesn't stand a chance against J.D.
00:22:06.740 I think DeSantis, I think Ted Cruz, I think an outsider.
00:22:10.400 DeSantis will be J.D.'s VP.
00:22:11.600 Yeah, but what we learned from Kamala is that we don't want people anointed.
00:22:15.500 We want you going through a tough primary.
00:22:17.480 And by the way, I hope DeSantis runs.
00:22:19.800 I hope Cruz runs.
00:22:21.000 I hope all these guys run.
00:22:22.000 What I'm trying to say is the opposite of what you're saying.
00:22:24.360 I want everybody to run.
00:22:25.840 I think they will.
00:22:26.400 Well, I don't think J.D.'s going to run on a plane.
00:22:27.720 I think the one that has to run.
00:22:30.340 But if J.D. – okay, go for it.
00:22:31.620 Do the polls.
00:22:32.720 So J.D. runs, Ted Cruz runs, DeSantis runs, Rubio doesn't run.
00:22:37.040 Six months into it, what's the numbers look like?
00:22:39.060 J.D.'s.
00:22:39.400 Go ahead.
00:22:39.700 Yeah, J.D.'s is –
00:22:40.680 What's J.D.'s number?
00:22:41.780 Go ahead.
00:22:43.160 J.D.'s would be very high because –
00:22:44.660 Give me a number.
00:22:44.820 What do you think J.D.'s number would be?
00:22:45.700 It all depends if Trump says –
00:22:46.860 Give me the name.
00:22:47.080 I'm going to ask the question again.
00:22:48.300 Rubio doesn't run.
00:22:49.340 So J.D. –
00:22:50.580 Everybody else runs that we want.
00:22:53.640 What's J.D.'s number six months into the primary?
00:22:56.820 High.
00:22:57.580 Give me the number.
00:22:58.660 Meaning like percent.
00:22:59.920 Is he in the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s?
00:23:02.180 Where is he at six months?
00:23:02.920 He doesn't need to debate more than once.
00:23:04.900 Why would he?
00:23:05.860 Yeah, he doesn't need that.
00:23:06.720 That's a problem.
00:23:08.120 On delegates?
00:23:09.420 That's a problem.
00:23:10.440 It's a done deal.
00:23:11.680 That's right.
00:23:12.040 Six months in on delegates.
00:23:12.940 Yeah, what are we talking about?
00:23:13.780 It could be 85% on delegates.
00:23:15.440 No, no, no.
00:23:15.720 Over.
00:23:16.520 I see what you're saying.
00:23:17.080 No, this is a really, I hope more Republicans are talking about this.
00:23:22.160 This is a real concern.
00:23:23.600 Watch what happened to Florida.
00:23:25.220 This is how many debates Byron Donaldson in Florida did against other Republicans.
00:23:29.460 Why?
00:23:29.940 Why?
00:23:31.980 Because what?
00:23:32.580 Because he's that capable?
00:23:34.600 No.
00:23:35.760 Go get 30.
00:23:37.060 Playoffs has rounds.
00:23:38.540 Round one. 0.88
00:23:39.700 Round two. 0.86
00:23:40.740 Round three.
00:23:41.740 Then go win the championship.
00:23:43.220 And he will win it.
00:23:45.100 You not want to eliminate NBA playoffs and just go to the championship?
00:23:48.940 No.
00:23:49.280 No, that's not how any sport works.
00:23:52.500 And neither does the political party.
00:23:54.320 And Republicans better be careful.
00:23:56.380 You better be careful like trying to soften up your candidates as the chosen one.
00:24:00.520 You don't know if they're the chosen ones.
00:24:02.060 What if they choke?
00:24:03.060 Then what? 0.66
00:24:03.920 Florida flips? 1.00
00:24:04.980 Oh, well, it's because of the Democrats spend more money, bullshit, bullshit. 1.00
00:24:09.540 No. 1.00
00:24:10.840 Play ball.
00:24:12.180 Get in the arena.
00:24:13.100 Fight.
00:24:14.560 Do the fight.
00:24:15.360 One of the moments at the vault that was very, very emotional was when we dedicated a section of the vault to the late, great Charlie Kirk.
00:24:28.020 It was so interesting how everybody, almost everybody in the room got up.
00:24:33.740 Many were in tears remembering this great man.
00:24:37.580 And as strange as this is, his one year is coming up just in a few days this week.
00:24:43.760 just in a few days this week.
00:24:46.200 And we remember, all of us remember,
00:24:47.520 I remember what happened when, you know, Kobe Bryant died.
00:24:51.560 I remember exactly where I was at, Seasons 52 in Dallas.
00:24:54.640 I'll never forget where I was at
00:24:56.240 when Charlie Kirk was assassinated and killed.
00:24:59.100 We were at the vault conference.
00:25:00.400 Tony Robbins was on stage.
00:25:01.540 I got up and Tom prayed.
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