Valuetainment - June 27, 2026


“He’ll Never Be Loved Like Maradona” – The Truth About Messi, Ronaldo And Soccer’s Gods

Hosted by
Patrick Bet-David
Mentioned
Lionel Messi Cristiano Ronaldo Schumacher James Hunt Senna Nicky Lauda Maradona Humberto Asperger Mbappé Tucker Pele Jake Jeff
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Length

6 minutes

Words per minute

217.25

Word count

1,365

Sentence count

125

Harmful content

Toxicity

5

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9

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Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo both scored hat tricks in the Champions League final, but which one is better, Ronaldo or Messi? Ronaldo and Messi's post-game reactions to the match, Ronaldo's reaction to Messi's goal, and more!

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00:00:00.000 Ronaldo scored two goals yesterday, which is great
00:00:02.840 because the Ronaldo fans desperately needed this.
00:00:05.680 Mbappe scored four goals.
00:00:07.320 Haaland scored four goals.
00:00:08.880 Messi scored five goals.
00:00:10.380 Ronaldo scored two goals.
00:00:11.840 By the way, this is what's exciting.
00:00:13.520 Do you realize if Portugal wins the World Cup,
00:00:16.520 if Portugal wins the World Cup, you know what debate is coming back?
00:00:19.880 Ronaldo versus Messi.
00:00:21.060 And it'll be so heated.
00:00:22.420 But if Messi wins the World Cup, you know what happens?
00:00:25.960 He'll be in a level of himself that no –
00:00:28.320 Like, every converse, already people are saying,
00:00:31.140 even if Ronaldo wins, that debate doesn't exist
00:00:33.160 because Messi is a superior playmaker than Ronaldo is.
00:00:36.260 But, you know, Ronaldo is loved by a lot of people.
00:00:38.660 Let me just read something to you of a possibility,
00:00:40.740 and then we'll go to this interview.
00:00:43.060 Sports gets exciting when there's animosity.
00:00:45.640 It's exciting.
00:00:46.580 Like, what made San Antonio Spurs?
00:00:49.280 You need some animosity, right?
00:00:50.620 You need, like, some people that don't like each other.
00:00:53.460 It's like, I cannot believe you're saying this.
00:00:55.020 In the comments section right now, if you're Team Messi or Ronaldo,
00:00:57.660 Post your comments below.
00:00:59.000 You know, it gets pretty feisty.
00:01:00.120 Make your argument on why you think Ronaldo's better
00:01:02.140 or Messi's better or Pele's better or Mardona or anybody else.
00:01:05.080 But let me read you something that's very exciting. 0.90
00:01:08.120 You know, there's a 10% to 15% chance that U.S. could face Iran. 0.96
00:01:11.600 That's a good matchup. 1.00
00:01:13.000 That's a good matchup.
00:01:14.520 Hey, side of the deal, right?
00:01:17.220 Oh, boy.
00:01:18.140 You know, there's a 20% to 30% chance
00:01:20.340 that there's going to be a France-Argentina rematch.
00:01:23.280 That'll be their third time facing each other.
00:01:25.340 You know, there's a 10% to 20% chance Portugal could face Argentina.
00:01:29.100 Now, that's a matchup.
00:01:30.640 If they match up against each other, Portugal bumps Argentina out.
00:01:34.900 Argentina bumps Portugal out.
00:01:36.800 Talk about the amount of stories that will create.
00:01:39.340 But here's Ronaldo.
00:01:40.380 After the match, it's asked about Messi and watch his immediate reaction.
00:01:44.740 Go forward.
00:01:45.920 Ayer, Lionel Messi marcĂł dos goles.
00:01:48.800 Mbappé.
00:01:49.400 Oh, my God.
00:01:50.280 He has no desire to talk about it.
00:01:55.100 So I think they're facing Colombia this Saturday.
00:01:57.440 We should be a good game.
00:01:58.780 Saturday, 7.30 or something like that.
00:02:00.500 So where are you at with this?
00:02:01.580 Who do you think is going to win it?
00:02:03.080 What do you think about Ronaldo versus Messi?
00:02:04.780 I have no idea.
00:02:05.960 I just go for Portugal because I love Portugal.
00:02:08.200 And I have a home in Portugal.
00:02:10.140 So you have to kind of support it.
00:02:11.780 But we're making a shoe that's coming.
00:02:13.200 I can't tell anybody.
00:02:14.500 It's sneakers that is coming.
00:02:16.120 And we're making them in Portugal. 0.86
00:02:17.220 And the shoes are ridiculous.
00:02:19.320 They make the best tennis shoes in the world in Portugal. 0.92
00:02:21.560 The best.
00:02:22.040 They make incredible stuff in Portugal.
00:02:23.660 Yeah, Portugal.
00:02:24.380 Humberto. 0.74
00:02:24.700 You know, we talked about Wars and Tucker and Ben,
00:02:27.720 and this is going to get me in trouble, all right?
00:02:29.920 This right here is going to get me in trouble.
00:02:30.980 Go ahead.
00:02:32.300 Messi's never going to be loved.
00:02:33.800 People love Cristiano Ronaldo.
00:02:35.700 They love them.
00:02:37.220 Messi can get another World Cup.
00:02:38.900 He can get 300 goals.
00:02:40.700 He's never going to be Maradona.
00:02:42.480 Maradona was loved.
00:02:43.640 They have shrines with him with his face, T-shirts.
00:02:46.440 Why do you think that is?
00:02:47.480 Do you think because he's got Asperger's?
00:02:48.820 Do you think it's because he's not a personality?
00:02:50.460 Jake is pissed off already getting up.
00:02:52.200 The hand of God.
00:02:53.160 Yeah.
00:02:53.440 But it doesn't matter how much they score.
00:02:55.320 The same thing goes with the F1.
00:02:57.320 You know, people used to love Schumacher, but it's not the same as Senna.
00:03:00.820 You know, Senna is a trust.
00:03:02.900 They love them.
00:03:04.000 You know what I mean?
00:03:04.580 Let me tell you, though.
00:03:05.380 As much as Senna, I named my daughter after Senna.
00:03:08.580 But Schumacher's, Schumacher, he's the greatest of all time. 1.00
00:03:11.360 Was he a slob, though? 0.98
00:03:12.800 Was he? 0.95
00:03:13.280 No, not at all.
00:03:14.580 So you have the comparison there.
00:03:16.740 He was not loved like Senna.
00:03:18.720 He was respected.
00:03:19.460 You know what I will tell you?
00:03:20.360 Schumacher was loved.
00:03:21.200 when he got his 41st race, Tom showed this
00:03:23.400 to me, a 41st victory, and they asked
00:03:25.400 him the question. The other guy who was racing
00:03:27.280 again was another racing legend. He says, why don't you go
00:03:29.260 away from him? Can't you see his breaking down crying?
00:03:31.340 I think that's when Schumacher became human when
00:03:33.220 he started crying after passing up Senna. 0.95
00:03:35.680 Broke his arm. So where are you at? Do you have 0.78
00:03:37.220 any opinion on this, Jeff?
00:03:38.540 I do. I think
00:03:41.440 it would be very interesting if the Iranians 1.00
00:03:43.560 are losing to the Americans
00:03:44.960 and they start whispering
00:03:47.280 to the Americans, take us hostage,
00:03:49.340 please yeah but you know what you do have to have a little bit of imperfection to be loved i agree
00:03:53.360 that's an interesting point i agree you do and messi just met if messi learned to speak english
00:03:59.500 better and did more interviews and slightly more you know vulnerable it'll be a different story
00:04:04.980 that's just not him that's not his personality but maybe is it better to be loved and not be
00:04:10.200 the best or be the best and not but then you know what that becomes that becomes the movie the rush
00:04:14.700 Remember Rush with James Hunt and Nicky Lauda?
00:04:17.420 Nicky Lauda's a better racer, but James Hunt was loved.
00:04:20.100 And James Hunt was loved multiple at a time.
00:04:22.780 If you know the story, you know what I'm talking about.
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