Valuetainment - August 15, 2026


＂His DNA Was NOT on the Rifle＂ – Andrew Wilson Fact-Checks Candace on Tyler’s Trans Boyfriend


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61

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00:00:00.480 Recently, our company's softball team lost the big game by one run.
00:00:04.780 Then Dale tried to console us with the quote,
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00:00:30.000 I do want to play the twigs clip.
00:00:31.700 That one is important to me.
00:00:32.840 The twigs DNA clip.
00:00:34.100 Yeah.
00:00:34.420 And they're going to pull it up just to have you respond.
00:00:37.100 Well,
00:00:37.140 you don't have to play it because like,
00:00:38.620 if you're saying that when I initially watched it,
00:00:41.020 I thought that Lance twigs is DNA.
00:00:43.080 Like he was directly responding to that because the testimony was a bit
00:00:45.500 confusing.
00:00:45.860 They started by saying that they were going to like explaining how they got
00:00:50.920 the samples.
00:00:51.320 And they said,
00:00:51.760 Lance,
00:00:52.100 Matt and Amberson,
00:00:53.220 sorry,
00:00:53.760 Lance,
00:00:54.300 Matt and Amber Robinson,
00:00:55.720 how they got their DNA samples.
00:00:57.520 and then they started speaking about the gun and said you know multiple prints were found on them
00:01:02.740 and then they moved and they said lance twigs's dna was found on the screwdriver uh when i went
00:01:07.520 back and re-watched it i realized well they haven't officially said that lance or amber are on the
00:01:12.440 gun so i think i've already conceded that we don't know that so i think like but if you're
00:01:17.180 if you want to know this is directly you saying it is on the gun twigs i'm saying that i feel like
00:01:24.320 i've already said to you like i've made that concession well just to be clear whenever i
00:01:29.280 make a mistake i just correct it so that's why when you were asking me three times i've already
00:01:33.280 said we don't know yet and i've corrected that mistake so if the purpose of you showing this
00:01:39.380 is to demonstrate that candace makes mistakes sometimes uh when she's taking in a lot of
00:01:43.780 information and she's reading through legal documents and she's trying to remember nine
00:01:48.220 hour testimony it's just demonstrate something else it is in fact the case we're all going to
00:01:52.320 make mistakes i'm going to make mistakes and i've already i've already you're going to make mistakes
00:01:55.560 in the case yeah but in this case you were very adamant that his dna was on the gun itself yeah
00:02:02.700 so i'm just saying that it's not ruled out we know that there's five plus prints i've said this so
00:02:06.480 many times i had to re-watch the testimony again it's like nine hours a day it got very scientific
00:02:12.080 when they were speaking about this and i think i wrongly extrapolated that they meant all three of
00:02:16.080 them were on the prints when the only person they officially named was matt robinson so we don't
00:02:20.220 know yet if um lance twigs has his dna on the prince official dna on the gun officially just
00:02:26.920 yet okay i've already conceded that sure so that's fine and then the last one is one with erica kirk
00:02:32.100 sure this is like the erica kirk all right you could just sit down with me erica but we can do
00:02:39.100 it this way this goes back to a previous claim that you made yeah sure you know straight to jail
00:02:44.800 straight to jail for questioning, at least, Erica. I don't care who's mad. I really do not
00:02:51.060 care who wants to be upset after this episode. Really, you'll be wasting your breath. You can
00:02:57.320 spend a billion dollars on influencers because this is all becoming increasingly inexplicable. 1.00
00:03:01.740 You are asking me to be an idiot, actually, and I cannot do that for you. Someone once commented 1.00
00:03:07.800 beneath this show that if the situations were reversed and there were this many verifiable lies
00:03:16.340 the straight straight to jail yeah so that's the show intro and straight to jail straight to jail
00:03:22.380 is a monopoly term okay so do not pass go yeah do not collect 200 yes it's it's obviously tongue 0.99
00:03:28.840 in cheek and then we explain that actually i think that she should be brought in for questioning
00:03:32.060 because of inconsistencies so this is the exact episode when i started to think that
00:03:36.060 she should be sat down and questioned uh and i i still believe that i still hold the perspective
00:03:41.340 that erica should be sat down and she should be properly questioned do you know that she hasn't
00:03:45.880 been um no actually that would be a great thing for the spokesperson of turning point usa to say
00:03:50.720 that she's already why why do they i mean my guess would be she hasn't because they returned
00:03:54.020 everything to her but why do they owe you that though why they don't owe me anything that's my
00:03:59.120 show you're watching just you know the clips that you're pulling from my show so if i want to say
00:04:02.860 something on my show i can say that i didn't say they owe me something i don't think that's ever
00:04:06.820 you can't but if you say like you need to be sat down for questioning and you don't even know if
00:04:10.720 they haven't been that's strange right do you know if they have been no i have no idea so you're just
00:04:17.340 saying what if they haven't been yeah if you're if you're just kind of filling the air if your
00:04:21.240 entire thing is junk if you're no it's not junk if if the query is why is it that erica kirk's
00:04:27.500 not being sat down for questioning but you have absolutely no knowledge whether or not she's been 0.91
00:04:31.680 sat down for questioning or not what that does is it creates an innuendo it creates an inference
00:04:36.640 it creates out to the ethos that this should be happening because something's wrong here when you
00:04:42.660 actually don't have the knowledge that anything's wrong at all i just think that my opinion is that
00:04:47.820 she should be sat down in questions but you're not sure if she hasn't been yeah and you're not
00:04:52.120 sure if she has been either so like i said i feel like now you're just kind of filling the air with
00:04:56.800 my knowledge because turning points like we want to make sure that you go in there and you defend
00:05:01.180 erica and i have to say i don't think you've done an extraordinary job with that but i'm not here
00:05:05.100 to defend erica the thing is though it's like since four out of five of the clips that you
00:05:08.900 had on the ready when we asked you guys ahead of time i mean i want to just assert how professionally
00:05:14.140 we have dealt with this debate as you can see we have not planned any gotcha clips for andrew i
00:05:19.120 expressed to him that what we were going to do was just to use people for fact checks and it
00:05:23.120 because I might not remember something or I do remember something and you're
00:05:27.200 saying no. And that is what I think will register to people as very fair.
00:05:31.320 We did not take out of context clips of Andrew to try to repeat.
00:05:35.620 But I expressly said that I was going to bring claims.
00:05:37.740 We did not know when you said you were going to bring claims that you want me
00:05:41.080 to speak to. You didn't say I intend on sitting you down with out of context
00:05:46.200 clips to which we said to you before in an email,
00:05:49.340 any clips that you want to share with us, send it over.
00:05:51.220 let's assert a debate claim so that we can both be ready to respond to it this just that's not
00:05:55.840 really what happened well that what's not what didn't yeah this this uh the way that you're
00:06:00.040 framing the exchange that's not it that's not actually what happened we were negotiating it
00:06:04.240 is true we negotiated out uh the claim itself right which one's going to take which position
00:06:10.040 i wanted to make sure that i had at least an hour and a half on mine and you got the time for yours
00:06:14.100 to question me we did we got through your hour and a half on mine roughly an hour and a half now
00:06:18.320 on mine that's basically how this went but in the beginning i did not take an hour and a half to
00:06:23.060 just pull out of context this with andrew i actually debated the substance of what's going
00:06:26.440 on in this trial and this hearing and i i do think that you felt i think you felt sort of that there's
00:06:30.400 nothing out of the hang on and i did not say i'm just gonna get you to say yes or no well we were
00:06:37.160 supposed to be dating uh to be debating the case this is part of the case there was overwhelming
00:06:41.680 evidence these are your claims about the case no you then admitted that that now you're getting
00:06:46.420 into another sphere and you're you want to talk about the transcendentals and things that i've
00:06:50.920 got through and like four out of five of your clips are about erica kirk so the general perception
00:06:54.940 is your turning points horse i think quite a few of them were was there three just erica's or four
00:07:01.400 so you're just making stuff can we get a count of how many were about erica i feel like it was three
00:07:05.400 three okay three i said four but those are extraordinary claims that's why you're asked
00:07:10.180 okay well right okay but the point being is now you're veering into trying to get me to defend
00:07:14.780 my opinions and then you completely shirk responsibility when i point out yours no they're 0.83
00:07:18.680 not claims when you tweet erica is too retarded you go that's just whatever and then you move on 0.71
00:07:23.900 that's a claim that i and i'm responsible for the claim well earlier when i brought it up you said 0.63
00:07:29.240 that it was tongue-in-cheek yes sure i that's me responding to your criticism of the claim
00:07:35.520 that's all i'm doing here was interested and um and i'm happy to get into also the patsy stuff
00:07:41.780 now if you would like to well your team has one more clip they want to play seven days ago
00:07:45.680 we were getting into the patsy stuff and you stopped it and i was explaining to you
00:07:50.180 oh they have one more clip okay let's go they want to hit the minimum of four clips you were
00:07:55.160 saying with erica so 100 this is absurd
00:07:58.540 okay and this is the one you're saying from seven days ago
00:08:11.780 okay while they're looking for that do you want to continue yeah i mean can i ask a question i
00:08:21.200 know it's been or like can i ask a question are we not really we're just i'm just gonna okay we're
00:08:26.120 going to hold to the actual contract itself the contract is does not say that you are allowed to
00:08:32.040 just question me without me being able to respond to you i've never said you can have a conversation
00:08:38.360 You've been able to respond to every question I've asked you.
00:08:40.800 And by the way, the other thing is, is like...
00:08:43.060 Let's have it your way.
00:08:43.600 I want it to look like we've done everything Andrew wanted to
00:08:46.520 so that people can fairly assess the situation.
00:08:48.980 So you have it your way.
00:08:49.640 I will not ask a question.
00:08:50.840 Totally fair with me.
00:08:52.920 So are you good with her asking a question or no?
00:08:54.660 He said no.
00:08:55.220 Waiting for the clip.
00:08:56.500 Okay.
00:08:56.900 So you want to wait for the clip first.
00:08:58.340 Okay.
00:08:59.560 You guys have it in the back?
00:09:03.020 Okay, beautiful.
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00:09:49.240 You need the Jeopardy thing.
00:09:50.520 Your team told me they had it, so...
00:09:51.700 That's what I heard.
00:09:53.320 Okay, there we go.
00:09:53.800 Come on, guys.
00:09:54.660 Did this crime, okay?
00:09:56.580 Because Lance Twiggs has his DNA on the towel.
00:10:00.160 It's fine.
00:10:00.600 lance twigs has his dna on the rifle and to be clear lance twigs's dna was not as degraded
00:10:08.960 as tyler robinson's dna was on tyler's rifle it's tyler's rifle oh you also said yeah it's not as
00:10:15.920 degraded on the rifle yeah because i thought he was one of the things but i i've already that
00:10:20.160 that's what i mean when i say that like it just seems like you're not actually here trying to
00:10:24.060 engage because i even before you got to this and i knew that you had some secret clip plans
00:10:28.460 i said to you when i re-watched the testimony i realized that they didn't explicitly say lance
00:10:33.120 twigs they said five other profiles were on it and that his was the most degraded so i hope your
00:10:39.580 team feels fulfilled in playing that uh is there any more i'm happy to play every clip that he has
00:10:45.020 on the ready anybody you said you said you had some new evidence at the beginning of the oh yeah
00:10:50.400 we should show that text message that you read just because i think that's important for the
00:10:53.740 public you shared it out of context I'll do it on my show I'll share the uh so you're going to
00:10:58.720 read it on my show but not show it correct okay I'll show it on my show but that's that's what
00:11:04.400 I'll do I'll show it on my can I ask why well because I want to drip out the evidence you know
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