Valuetainment - ＂You Said She's COMPLICIT＂ - Andrew Wilson GRILLS Candace Owens Over Charlie Kirk Claims

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00:00:30.000 One thing, though, that I am, I want to just directly ask you is, do you actually believe that anybody in TPUSA or Erica Kirk or Erica actually participated, had foreknowledge of or facilitated the murder of Charlie Kirk?

00:00:46.440 I'm not going to get myself into a legal pickle here.

00:00:50.020 Everything I've said is on my podcast.

00:00:52.180 I think firmly that if I was the investigating officers, I would seat them all and I would ask questions.

00:01:01.960 I would at this space.

00:01:03.560 I would.

00:01:04.720 Okay, what does that mean?

00:01:06.820 Does that mean that you do think so?

00:01:08.320 I think it was not a sufficient investigation into what we know to be true of 80% of homicides.

00:01:16.560 It's usually conducted by someone you know, right?

00:01:19.820 And the fact that that was never even considered, that, like I said earlier, the backpack was returned.

00:01:24.900 How do you know that was never considered?

00:01:26.860 Because they gave back the backpack, as just one example.

00:01:30.800 They gave back the backpack.

00:01:32.440 They gave back the...

00:01:34.380 That doesn't show a conspiracy.

00:01:36.420 Well, I mean, it shows that the police trusted everybody and didn't just hold things up for a second.

00:01:41.120 Yeah, they ruled them out as suspects.

00:01:43.280 That quickly.

00:01:44.320 I'm not comfortable with that investigation.

00:01:45.960 It's a pretty big organization.

00:01:47.120 There's a $100 million incentive.

00:01:48.520 people this is 100 million dollar incentive what i'm saying is his organization like that they had

00:01:53.420 grown to i think it was 100 and 100 plus per year yeah per year we can if that's something you want

00:01:57.020 your team wants to play video if you don't mind there's a there's a video they want to play of

00:02:01.700 uh candace said it's impossible to not believe erica's complicit if you guys want to play that

00:02:07.640 video yeah that's also just asking so right now their guys are going out and they're going to

00:02:11.860 look for evidence and then by may which is fortunately around the corner then she'll see

00:02:17.460 what they found so what the f is that performance how could you sit up there and say i i yes i 100

00:02:27.020 percent believe tyler robinson did it that right there is why it is impossible for me to think

00:02:35.440 that erica kirk is not complicit somehow because what that those two thoughts actually don't even 0.78

00:02:41.340 follow how would it be the case that even if erica kirk did believe that tyler robinson was

00:02:46.980 a hundred percent responsible for the death of charlie kirk let's say she believed it with every

00:02:50.940 fiber of her being believed all the evidence because she did she just actually did would it

00:02:56.080 then follow that somehow she's complicit in his death i didn't say implicit in death

00:03:02.740 you added those two words okay it's what's she complicit in yes so sewing this narrative that

00:03:08.520 tyler robinson is guilty so you're chopping up clips like i said you didn't have the confidence

00:03:12.340 okay well tell me what does that mean what does complicit mean we are showing a clip of her on

00:03:15.900 barry weiss which i can't remember the date that she did that interview uh and erica when she is

00:03:21.160 asked are you one you know do you do you feel with 100 certainty that tyler robinson did did this

00:03:26.100 and she says i do then again context matters i sit down with erica for four hours under the

00:03:32.900 assumption that she had some evidence right like like i'm like i actually this is why i did not

00:03:37.100 engage in any like erica everyone's questioning what she's wearing and all this stuff i was like

00:03:42.200 i'm gonna wait here because i don't know just it feels weird to think that do i did i think that

00:03:48.880 some of her mannerisms were weird and stuff like that yeah but that's not you can't convict somebody

00:03:52.680 on weird mannerisms and then when i sat down with her and i was expecting for her to say well

00:03:58.720 you know i'm obviously the victim on the case and we got to see the shot you know taken or this or

00:04:05.400 that whatever it is great you know that's why she's being that's why she has that much confidence

00:04:11.100 two months ago. And when I sat down with her, it was nothing. It was nothing. Okay. So this is a

00:04:16.540 conversation. How would that make her complicit? Complicit. Again, you said complicit in the death

00:04:22.940 of Charlie Kirk. Well, if you let me finish my sentence, I could tell you that. But my point

00:04:27.460 being is that then you take a look at this and you go, okay, well, this is weird. Why would you

00:04:31.620 have this confidence? And then when you sit across from somebody and you say, okay, great. I want to

00:04:36.340 go out there and defend you now. I want people to know that you can't say this stuff publicly,

00:04:39.780 but you know more things. And she just blanks. And then she says, well, I'm going to call the

00:04:44.140 lawyer. And she called the lawyer again, all of this is on my show. So out of context clips,

00:04:48.040 it's not going to work because I know what I say on my show. So we call her lawyer and her lawyer

00:04:52.400 says to us, uh, he, she calls him on the phone, pardon me. And, uh, it's me, her and Justin

00:04:57.360 Strife. And he's, I'm like, okay, great. What do you guys have? He goes, well, we don't have

00:05:01.820 anything yet. That's not, we're not at that phase yet. And I'm like, well, what do you mean you don't

00:05:05.020 have anything? And he says, well, don't you know how it works? It's a probable cause hearing. So

00:05:08.600 basically the state says that they're going to bring this forward and now our people go out and

00:05:14.040 they look for the evidence to uh assert that tyler robbins is guilty and so i asked her directly her

00:05:21.120 lawyer directly the phone's in between us i'm like wait so just so i'm clear you haven't seen

00:05:26.660 anything that the public hasn't seen and he says no so i'm going back in my head and i'm going okay

00:05:32.420 so why is erica saying with such a degree of certainty like she was sent out to convince the

00:05:38.100 public and and people bit by the way i remember even megan kelly was like uh you know let's wait

00:05:43.240 she's gonna have access to things i did think she had access to things that we didn't have

00:05:47.020 why express that confidence to the public as opposed to just being like we don't know yet

00:05:51.700 i feel confident he's probably he's involved i don't understand how would any of this make her

00:05:55.940 complicit and what well i've already told you she was she's complicit in in trying to fool the

00:06:01.300 public into thinking this is some open and shut how's she trying to fool the public into this

00:06:05.740 if she believes like don't look anywhere else that charlotte that tyler robinson killed kirk

00:06:10.620 if she believes that how would that be complicit in anything i i i do are you saying that you

00:06:16.620 think she doesn't believe it i i don't believe that at that stage she sat down with barry weiss

00:06:20.620 that that's what she believes no but that's my opinion right but so when you just say complicit

00:06:24.920 you just mean she believes that tyler robinson killed kirk that's it that's what we were talking

00:06:30.600 about that's why i said if your strategy was to dice up clips and take it out of context and make

00:06:34.780 you can explain everything yeah but then why not just play the full thing like why because we don't

00:06:40.340 have like infinite amounts of time i'm guessing you probably don't want to watch i'm i'm going

00:06:44.840 to go back to my theory that you didn't feel confident that you could defend your your claim

00:06:49.480 that it was overwhelming evidence so now you're trying to move towards doctored clips and getting

00:06:52.800 there's no doctor in anything i'm just making sure that we got this right that what you're

00:06:56.740 actually saying is that erica was when i re-examined her actions backward because i did not have this

00:07:03.520 perspective of her at the beginning which is why it's so funny to me that you guys make it seem

00:07:08.460 like I'm ground zero people thought Erica was sus from day I forgive him and I was not a part of

00:07:13.520 that I did not lean into that I did not contribute to that I was getting actually terrible messages

00:07:18.940 from my fans being like Candace you and Charlie always say to go with your intuition you won't

00:07:23.500 address this how we all feel about her things changed for me when I saw that zoom call I will

00:07:28.920 tell you that um for sure and the fact that she lied to me so i sat across from her and you know

00:07:35.600 got to i wanted to have that conversation publicly but they're probably grateful they didn't do it

00:07:39.440 publicly uh she told me some lies and so the next thing that happens naturally when somebody

00:07:47.460 lies to you you go when any person lies to you whether it's a toddler people only lie when

00:07:52.600 they're trying to obscure something else have you addressed what that lie was yeah i've talked about

00:07:57.220 we have a list of lies that we've been told by today we can find that in the meeting with her

00:08:00.800 well no I didn't want her to cage up I didn't I didn't want to do this and because I didn't know

00:08:06.300 what to expect like I I didn't I didn't know if she was going to be like I'm so overwhelmed with

00:08:10.760 everything you know and I don't know who to trust the organization and I don't know what I'm doing

00:08:16.280 like I didn't know I didn't want to just out of curiosity before anything happened with Charlie

00:08:20.940 how close were you and Erica not very close so there's not a relationship no there I mean there

00:08:26.800 like I would say it's totally normal like it's not like there was any issues at all uh she was

00:08:32.860 always we were always nice to each other it just is our life went to a different phase right so

00:08:37.540 Charlie and I hitting the ground running around traveling four days a week now I get married I

00:08:43.120 find love in my life I get married and I get pregnant I've been pregnant I haven't stopped

00:08:46.440 being pregnant and what you want out of life changes you don't want to be running around

00:08:50.600 for four days a week and traveling on a plane non-stop you suddenly want to start building

00:08:55.980 at home and live i was desiring that suburban life did you guys ever do the double dates you

00:09:00.480 george her and charlie was there ever double dates between the four of you i was uh you know

00:09:04.920 engaged to george quickly we were planning our wedding i was kind of in my bubble with george

00:09:09.060 george traveled with me and charlie but erica and him were just starting to date at the beginning

00:09:12.960 of 2019 george and i were planning our marriage so george really got to know charlie i wouldn't

00:09:17.860 say that i really got to know erica i was just rooting for them because i knew how much charlie

00:09:22.340 wanted to you know find love and so I was kind of his wing woman throughout that phase and I was

00:09:28.420 just happy and I never was under the impression obviously that they were going to get married

00:09:32.540 when they were dating so it wasn't like I would have was conscious I really need to get to know

00:09:36.420 this person and so it was just kind of normal that by that time because of where I was in my

00:09:42.180 life that I wasn't spending any time getting to know Erica. So the complicit part about Erica to

00:09:48.920 you is that a gut feeling you think it transformed when she lied you can take the lead i'm just

00:09:54.500 asking questions yeah i don't know for it i actually don't i still don't understand what

00:09:58.980 she's do you think she's complicit in yeah so when i say erica's complicit that's my opinion 0.72

00:10:04.120 when you tweeted erica's too retarded to kill her husband yeah would you like to explain how you 0.89

00:10:11.040 developed your evidence your positive evidence for the fact that erica was retarded um yeah sure 0.97

00:10:16.800 so yeah i just think all women are retarded oh so you're allowed to just say stuff who knew 0.90

00:10:21.240 so and by the way and what dramatically transformed your opinion of erica after 0.89

00:10:26.800 uh going to the headquarters because you were pretty hostile uh about i wasn't hostile towards 0.60

00:10:32.220 them you don't think calling somebody too retarded no come on that's like normal tongue-in-cheek 0.89

00:10:37.940 stuff for me online oh you're being tongue-in-cheek usually when i call someone retarded i'm being 0.88

00:10:42.660 tongue-in-cheek yeah like for instance you got supporters i mean if you were if you want to use 0.82

00:10:48.360 the same exact argument you would take a supporter like owen benjamin he called you bad names and

00:10:54.320 when and called your husband bad names are you just you're just like well that's no biggie i've

00:11:00.380 never answered him on anything that he said i'm saying that you now are her her biggest defender 0.88

00:11:04.320 so do you still think i'm not her biggest defender do you think still think she's too retarded no no 0.76

00:11:08.520 no no i didn't know erica kirk i'd never met her before okay but you had an issue with turning 0.99

00:11:13.560 point being led uh by a bunch of fembots saying i'm talking about the feminist angle still do 1.00

00:11:19.040 and then suddenly you go to the headquarters it's a terrible idea you come you go into the 0.72

00:11:22.320 headquarters now all of a sudden you've got text messages that you're sharing with them you say

00:11:26.680 that you're you and your wife are getting involved with management no no i'm not involved in any

00:11:31.880 management at turning point well i'm pretty sure there is a clip of you where you say that your

00:11:35.440 wife went to their recent conference and sat down and then when you were on Joe Rogan. No no no no

00:11:39.880 hang on I'll explain what happened just so that you understand. Yeah. So I was invited there to

00:11:44.640 do some debate training that's literally what I was invited there to do on recommendation so I

00:11:50.840 went down did some debate that's the first time I ever met anybody at TPUSA. Okay and then you said

00:11:54.660 you sat down with Erica. Well I didn't sit down to her I talked to her in a hallway. Recently our

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00:12:31.080 So you didn't sit down and speak with Erica?

00:12:33.100 No, I didn't have like some sit-down long conversation.

00:12:35.760 We talked in a hallway.

00:12:37.220 Okay.

00:12:37.720 Is that when you gave her the hug?

00:12:39.540 Yeah, gave her the hug right there.

00:12:40.820 My wife did too.

00:12:41.900 We were both very sorry for what happened to her.

00:12:43.420 Okay, so at what point did you start receiving text messages

00:12:46.180 that you cited in your opening statement?

00:12:50.500 Well, I just reached out to TPUSA and said,

00:12:52.460 I'm prepping for a debate.

00:12:53.560 Is there anything that's pertinent that I can use here?

00:12:56.020 do you find it interesting that people have been asking for you know basic answers to questions and

00:13:01.820 you're saying that you walked into their headquarters and reached out and they it's

00:13:05.780 amazing isn't it if you reach out in good faith and you're not demonizing them and saying that

00:13:09.340 they're complicit in the murder of people's deaths that that perhaps they're actually

00:13:14.220 willing to release things to you that are pertinent other than thinking that you know

00:13:18.260 maybe perhaps you're diabolical i don't know i feel like if i was going to release that

00:13:22.500 information i didn't i didn't demand that it be released to me um i actually never demanded that

00:13:26.800 it be released i just simply said that this is what was going on in the last 48 hours maybe to

00:13:32.080 the media they could release it they can release it to pbd they decide to release it to a guy that

00:13:36.480 called erica too retarded in june so what yeah i just think it kind of shows that turning point 0.75

00:13:41.520 is sending you as their horse well i don't know where you don't have they don't have the courage 0.80

00:13:46.380 to have the conversation like i don't if they were just releasing something in good faith to

00:13:50.560 answer questions you have any evidence of that claim it's not evidence you're sharing your opinion 0.72

00:13:56.120 that she's too retarded i can't share my opinion that i think it's going to register as really 0.69

00:14:00.460 obvious to the public that rather than presenting that throughout the course of everybody wanting 0.94

00:14:05.560 to know what charlie was going through through his last days they decided to give it to you to

00:14:09.120 come to my house as some sort of a surprise well do you think the public's not smart enough to see

00:14:12.860 through that do you think that if you're talking about terrible pr you know that there's a huge

00:14:17.240 debate that's coming up that's going to be probably one of the most viewed that year and one of the

00:14:21.480 debaters calls you and says i'm taking this position this is the position that i feel like

00:14:26.160 there's the most evidence for and candace also agreed to answer many of my questions in regards

00:14:31.140 to this so if you got pertinent evidence here that i can use i definitely like take a look what

00:14:35.780 is that it was actually amazing to me it really was actually amazing to me how if you approach

00:14:40.780 people in good faith and just say hey i'd actually like to know what the facts and details are around

00:14:45.080 this they actually do talk to you it's amazing yeah i i i just do not believe a that you that

00:14:52.080 they are doing this in good faith i don't believe that anything you have done is demonstrated that's

00:14:55.700 in good faith it demonstrates that you walked into turning point usa headquarters and came

00:14:59.080 out a different man because you were critical of the organization you still am we're critical of

00:15:02.640 erica and now you're sitting here going well first i want to interrogate you for an hour and a half

00:15:06.560 about everything you've ever said about erica have you ever been critical of somebody that you hadn't

00:15:09.700 met and then you meet them and you're less critical of them uh and the inverse has happened

00:15:13.260 too i was right about erica and now i'm more but i'm asking you but i'm asking you isn't it the

00:15:17.980 case that there's people you've been critical of and then you've met them and you're less critical 0.86

00:15:20.880 after you meet them uh too retarded i i feel like if you think that she's dumb and you let's just 0.92

00:15:27.000 talk about your record i mean you're a person that has spent time in what most people would 0.98

00:15:32.040 term to be the manosphere talking about feminine well yeah i debate against the against feminists

00:15:38.100 and red pillars okay and a lot of the actual so i'm a christian ethicist and then you go on to

00:15:43.660 joe rogan and you're like like soft explaining away why erica had to take over charlie's company

00:15:49.100 when they don't have a parent at home so now you're a feminist icon like you just go into 0.97

00:15:52.560 the headquarters and you just shift all of your that's because that's a bizarre criticism like 1.00

00:15:56.440 nobody's in the bigger girl boss position than you i'm actually no you're in the biggest of the

00:16:01.460 girl boss positions like you don't have to do this you just do do this you could definitely

00:16:06.360 not do it at all and be fine right but you still do i i would say that you are making a comparison

00:16:11.820 that cannot be compared because because erica's husband was just assassinated in front of the

00:16:18.420 world which makes sense why she would take the organization no but it makes sense why you would

00:16:21.980 go home to your kids just so you know wait a second that's that's bizarre because they don't

00:16:25.540 have a parent they don't have a parent and they've just suffered a trauma you don't go into the office

00:16:29.040 you want to protect your husband's legacy yeah right and you're trying to find some legacy is

00:16:33.800 his children not the organization it's both no it yes it is both it's totally rational and

00:16:39.720 reasonable to believe that it would be both turning point usa that is part of charlie

00:16:44.040 kirk's legs he worked his whole life for it this is why people think she's us and his children now

00:16:47.920 for you though to say that anybody's a girl boss right that's like the pot calling the kettle black

00:16:53.340 that came out of your mouth no that was you you brought up girl boss girl boss came out of your

00:16:58.700 mouth yeah i'm just saying i'm telling you that you brought up this idea that i'm defending some 1.00

00:17:03.720 feminist nonsense i'm not i'm pointing out that they're they're by the way she's not qualified 1.00

00:17:09.060 to take over his company there's always objective outliers to each situation in fact it's the

00:17:15.080 exception that proves the rule and the interesting thing here is like i'm still just as critical of

00:17:19.960 feminism inside of tp usa as i've always been and i'm just as critical of any pro-zionist position

00:17:26.340 as i've ever been none of that's ever changed by the way i would think it's the most rational

00:17:32.500 reasonable thing on planet earth to do if you wanted to actually see an organization change

00:17:37.100 to try to work with leadership or reach out to leadership to try to do so doesn't that make the 0.93

00:17:42.480 most i would like to state for the record that i think erica is underqualified from uh to run that

00:17:48.100 to run the organization and on on the more emotional aspects i agree with the what seems

00:17:56.260 to be a majority opinion because I can say it's scientific that any woman that would leave her 0.96

00:18:02.540 kids and go right into the office after their husband was publicly assassinated does not have 0.56

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Valuetainment - August 16, 2026

＂You Said She's COMPLICIT＂ - Andrew Wilson GRILLS Candace Owens Over Charlie Kirk Claims

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