Valuetainment - December 10, 2025


“Jeffrey Epstein Was A Blackmailer” - Clinton Ally SHOCKS With New INSIDER Details On Elite Network


Episode Stats

Length

15 minutes

Words per Minute

175.68755

Word Count

2,666

Sentence Count

288

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary

Trump, Bill Gates, Melinda Gates, Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton, Bill and Hillary Clinton. The list goes on and on. But what s the connection between Epstein and Bill Gates? And why did Bill Gates have a prenuptial agreement that allowed him to go off for a week a year with his ex girlfriend?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Did you ever do anything with Epstein?
00:00:01.500 Did you ever run into Epstein?
00:00:02.840 Hell no.
00:00:03.600 Okay.
00:00:04.860 But, you know.
00:00:05.500 She's dealing with that.
00:00:06.480 Listen, here's what we know.
00:00:09.860 Trump's Commerce Secretary, I don't know if he went off script and said,
00:00:13.400 he goes, look, Jeffrey Epstein is a blackmailer.
00:00:17.360 What was his talent?
00:00:19.720 Really?
00:00:20.380 Video.
00:00:21.140 Right.
00:00:21.680 Video.
00:00:22.420 Right.
00:00:22.720 Leverage.
00:00:23.160 That guy that owns the limited and all, and Victoria's Secret,
00:00:27.560 what did Jeff Epstein bring to him?
00:00:30.440 Lex Wexner?
00:00:31.800 Yeah.
00:00:32.520 Gave him his 77,000 largest private residence in New York.
00:00:37.960 Larry Sommer.
00:00:39.020 54,000.
00:00:39.900 I'm sorry.
00:00:40.260 It's a $77 million property.
00:00:41.700 But Howard Ludnick said it, and he was right.
00:00:46.340 Jeffrey Epstein was a blackmailer.
00:00:50.340 And, you know, no telling what he had on all these people.
00:00:54.760 I think Bill Gates got divorced.
00:00:56.740 I think Melinda Gates, I don't know this, so don't.
00:00:59.680 Well, she said it in the interview.
00:01:01.340 I'm sure you've seen the interview.
00:01:02.300 I've seen it, so I don't want to be sued for slander.
00:01:04.780 Well, I know a good law firm if you're looking for it.
00:01:07.040 We know how to do slander.
00:01:08.820 But Bill Gates, you know, Bill Gates loves women.
00:01:14.100 Bill Gates, you ready for this?
00:01:15.460 You ready for a little fun fact?
00:01:16.860 When Bill Gates married Melinda Gates in his prenup,
00:01:20.020 we'll go back to the beginning,
00:01:21.540 that he could go off for one week a year with his old girlfriend.
00:01:25.120 Stop it.
00:01:25.520 Yes, Google that, Vinny.
00:01:27.360 Stop.
00:01:28.040 Yes, yes, Google that, Vinny.
00:01:31.440 Wow.
00:01:31.860 How would that go over at home with Mama?
00:01:35.300 Baby, if you're watching, Dave, you know.
00:01:37.980 No, we didn't have that in our prenup.
00:01:40.020 Yeah, I can go off one week a year in perpetuity with my old girlfriend.
00:01:47.120 Why would she agree to that?
00:01:49.060 Money.
00:01:50.280 Melinda Gates, when you read their story, she was acting like she met him in the parking lot
00:01:53.840 and didn't know who he was.
00:01:55.040 And she worked at Microsoft.
00:01:56.420 I mean, no.
00:01:58.780 No.
00:01:59.280 I don't believe you, Melinda.
00:02:01.100 I believe that you parked next to him on purpose.
00:02:05.240 And she dated Bo Wrigley at Duke.
00:02:08.640 I mean, she's looking, I mean, there's people that are looking for money.
00:02:11.600 So you think she was a gold digger?
00:02:13.960 I think so.
00:02:14.920 Wow.
00:02:16.240 Yeah, so is that the one that had an annual tradition with his ex-girlfriend,
00:02:19.060 software entrepreneur, Ann Wimbled, to spend a long weekend together each spring at her beach cottage
00:02:23.940 at the Outer Banks, a practice he maintained with his teen, with his then-wife,
00:02:28.840 while Melinda's agreement, which involved activities like dune buggy riding,
00:02:33.360 walking on the beach, and discussing technology and life of tradition.
00:02:36.140 I'd like to know what went on that dune buggy.
00:02:38.300 I'd like to know what went on that dune buggy.
00:02:41.600 They're calling it dune buggy.
00:02:43.500 I call it something.
00:02:44.240 I call it buggery.
00:02:45.680 I call it dune buggery.
00:02:49.320 Look up.
00:02:49.960 Put the word buggery up there.
00:02:51.520 Put buggery up there on the screen.
00:02:53.140 Oh, wow.
00:03:07.440 Okay, well, maybe he's outlying.
00:03:09.760 I don't know.
00:03:10.380 Maybe he's outlying.
00:03:11.720 I don't know.
00:03:12.520 I'm just saying.
00:03:13.960 I just report the facts.
00:03:15.700 So as you're having these many lawyers, did any of them run into Epstein?
00:03:19.820 Did any of them call and say, listen, I got this thing.
00:03:21.940 Nothing.
00:03:22.340 Nothing that came through your firm.
00:03:23.740 Got it.
00:03:24.600 Yeah, very interesting.
00:03:25.920 We just tried a case.
00:03:26.920 No, we tried a case.
00:03:29.040 We had a verdict against Google a couple of weeks ago in San Francisco.
00:03:33.780 We got a $500 million verdict.
00:03:35.500 But the lawyer we tried it with was David Boyce, and Boyce, David Boyce, Boyce Schiller, he's
00:03:43.700 representing the girl who just committed suicide.
00:03:46.420 So Boyce has a lot of those cases.
00:03:47.940 But I did not get any of the cases, but I did not get any of the cases, and I never knew Jeffrey Epstein.
00:03:54.280 Got it.
00:03:54.920 And by the way, Bill Clinton was never on the island.
00:03:59.680 He told you this?
00:04:00.720 Many times.
00:04:01.980 He was never on the island.
00:04:03.000 He's on the flight log, though, isn't he?
00:04:04.580 He's on, listen, he was on the planes.
00:04:07.020 But never went to the island.
00:04:08.000 Never.
00:04:10.820 Never.
00:04:11.460 He is like the main name that gets dropped with the picture.
00:04:15.180 So I will tell you one thing.
00:04:16.620 Yeah, he's the main name, but Trump's the main name, too.
00:04:19.240 And Trump says he was never on the island.
00:04:21.020 So there's two main names that people want.
00:04:23.760 Trump, Clinton, Trump, Clinton, Trump, Clinton.
00:04:26.460 And that's what gets clicks.
00:04:29.160 Yeah, but there's a big difference, and I'll tell you what the big difference is.
00:04:33.340 Okay, here we go.
00:04:34.020 So I had Michael Wolff on.
00:04:35.780 I don't know if you know who Michael Wolff is.
00:04:37.120 You know who he is.
00:04:37.740 Okay.
00:04:38.440 So I had Michael Wolff on, and we're sitting there having a conversation.
00:04:41.120 And we've talked on the phone many times.
00:04:43.140 And I said, okay, so what was it like?
00:04:44.700 Because he has 100 hours of recorded conversation with Epstein at his place at the property that Wexner gifted him.
00:04:53.340 I said, okay.
00:04:54.600 I said, is there a painting of President Clinton with a blue dress on?
00:05:02.960 I asked him that question.
00:05:04.720 He says, yeah, there is.
00:05:05.940 I said, really?
00:05:06.820 Yeah.
00:05:07.200 In Epstein Suite?
00:05:07.840 Yeah.
00:05:08.640 There is.
00:05:09.420 Yeah.
00:05:09.960 Where?
00:05:10.720 Right next to the bathroom.
00:05:11.680 Why would there be a painting of the president?
00:05:14.700 With a dress on in his place?
00:05:18.600 He said, I don't know.
00:05:19.900 I said, I don't know.
00:05:20.900 Well, you saw the painting.
00:05:22.080 It's like a joke.
00:05:23.960 I mean, he's in a dress and pearls.
00:05:25.680 Yeah, that's the one right there.
00:05:26.440 But, yeah, there he is.
00:05:28.140 But, you know, look, what Epstein, he sold himself as an influencer, that he can connect you.
00:05:35.820 And I know Clinton, and I know Trump, and I know the prince, and I know Larry Sumner, and
00:05:40.520 he did all this.
00:05:41.980 And then he got some of them in his web.
00:05:45.020 And I believe that Howard Lutnick, or whatever his damn name is, is correct.
00:05:51.420 Jeffrey Epstein.
00:05:52.720 Look what he, look.
00:05:53.960 This guy was like a teacher.
00:05:56.280 Math teacher.
00:05:56.900 A math teacher in some bullshit school that he got fired in, in New York City.
00:06:01.840 I mean, this was no tax whiz.
00:06:04.440 You think he was part of the Mossad?
00:06:05.720 You think he was like a...
00:06:07.020 The Mossad?
00:06:07.860 Yeah.
00:06:08.180 Intel?
00:06:09.200 No.
00:06:09.820 I just think he was, I think he was a lone wolf that just got out there.
00:06:13.120 You think he sold Intel to CIA and to Mossad and others?
00:06:16.780 Well, I think anything's possible with that guy.
00:06:19.160 But I don't even know how he made so much money.
00:06:22.220 And how did he make the ask from Leslie Wexner?
00:06:26.280 Because it wasn't just the house the guy gave him.
00:06:28.220 Did you ever do any kind of things with Leon Black?
00:06:31.220 No, but, you know, we won't hear from him much.
00:06:34.980 I mean, his brother-in-law, Tony Ressler, who has his own company, I met him at Grant Hill's,
00:06:44.140 he's his brother-in-law.
00:06:45.100 I met Tony at Grant Hill's NBA Hall of Fame induction.
00:06:50.360 But, no, I mean, I've never done anything with Leon Black.
00:06:53.600 Tony Ressler, the brother-in-law, and his son, Tony Ressler's son's very good friends
00:06:59.360 with my son, Dan, who you met.
00:07:01.080 Got it.
00:07:02.140 Got it.
00:07:02.480 The guy with the nice sports coat that he has.
00:07:04.720 He doesn't wear the royal...
00:07:05.640 The zoot suit, I call it.
00:07:07.060 The zoot suit.
00:07:07.980 Yeah, so when you hear the stories about him when he says he paid $170 million of consulting
00:07:13.480 to Epstein.
00:07:14.240 I've never heard of.
00:07:15.440 I mean, have you...
00:07:16.900 You've done tens of billions of dollars of engagements, right?
00:07:22.060 Have you ever had a client pay you guys $170 million in legal fees?
00:07:25.920 Not voluntarily.
00:07:27.340 Not voluntarily.
00:07:28.520 Okay, that's a different story.
00:07:29.760 I settled the Hawaiian fire case for $4 billion this year.
00:07:35.180 $4 billion.
00:07:35.740 So I've had some big fees, but no.
00:07:40.260 Look, $170 million.
00:07:41.340 Just think about that.
00:07:43.120 $170 million.
00:07:44.020 I mean, look.
00:07:45.240 I had a...
00:07:45.940 My mentor in life was a guy named Bill Demetrius, a Lebanese guy.
00:07:50.960 And he said something to me one time that people think...
00:07:54.400 And he said to me, remember this, John, if money will solve a problem, solve the problem.
00:08:02.000 So look, Epstein goes with his blackmail to whoever and says, yes or no.
00:08:08.940 And then they say, if money will solve a problem, I've got to solve this problem.
00:08:16.280 Because I don't care what.
00:08:18.620 Epstein ain't worth...
00:08:19.940 $170 million.
00:08:21.720 He ain't worth $17.
00:08:24.640 But if you've got a bunch of pictures with people pissing on you, nude and orgies,
00:08:31.860 and you've got billions and billions, and think of what he could have lost when he was paying it.
00:08:39.060 What if he had let it out at that point in time?
00:08:43.040 Now, the real question is, would Epstein have ever really pulled the trigger with his blackmail,
00:08:47.920 if that's what it was?
00:08:50.200 Well, maybe Jelaine has it somewhere, and she's got a dead man's switch, and that's why she's saved.
00:08:54.940 Jelaine has everything.
00:08:56.740 Yeah.
00:08:57.060 She has everything.
00:08:58.500 I wonder who has it, or what lawyer has it.
00:09:00.540 How do you do that?
00:09:01.860 If she does have it, does she tell three lawyers that pays each a certain amount of money to keep,
00:09:11.600 that if something ever happens to me, leak it?
00:09:13.840 How do you do that if you have that kind of information?
00:09:16.780 Well, she's got two brothers that I guarantee you.
00:09:19.060 If she's going to tell anybody, she's going to tell them.
00:09:22.480 But look, she's in Texas now.
00:09:25.200 She's got better setup.
00:09:27.600 I mean, look, if she was compelled, and we shot her up with sodium pentothal,
00:09:35.260 there'd be a lot of powerful people go down, because she was there for everything.
00:09:39.700 She was the madam.
00:09:42.980 She was the madam.
00:09:43.960 She was the recruiter.
00:09:45.580 She had a deep crush on this guy, and she did everything.
00:09:50.260 She is the deep throat of the Epstein saga.
00:09:57.380 Probably both meanings.
00:09:58.640 I mean, if you, like, yeah, the Watergate, you know what I'm saying?
00:10:00.880 Yeah, I know.
00:10:01.500 Possibly, because she seems talented.
00:10:04.020 You hear stuff.
00:10:05.320 There's one of the documentaries you're watching about a girl that said, they went there to buy purses.
00:10:10.200 They bought a bunch of stuff from her, and then they invite her back up to one of the penthouse places that they had.
00:10:17.000 And so she says, yeah, I'll come back.
00:10:18.980 She goes upstairs.
00:10:20.160 Epstein comes back in a robe.
00:10:21.480 They're sitting on a couch.
00:10:23.460 Epstein and Jelaine take their clothes off.
00:10:25.420 They start making out.
00:10:26.300 They start fooling around.
00:10:27.560 And then they look at her, and they get her involved.
00:10:29.660 She's like, I didn't even know what the hell was going on.
00:10:32.020 What they did, the stories you hear.
00:10:35.480 The thing I just read recently, which was kind of gross, is that his penis was the shape of a lemon.
00:10:40.760 What does that even look like, a penis shape of a lemon?
00:10:42.920 I don't like it.
00:10:43.860 I don't want it.
00:10:44.600 What?
00:10:45.000 Listen, shape of a lemon?
00:10:47.260 It was like small.
00:10:48.900 Oh, that's what they're saying?
00:10:50.480 Howard Stern said one time, his penis was so small, it looked like an elevator button.
00:10:54.880 But I don't know if that's a lemon or not.
00:11:02.360 Who said the lemon?
00:11:03.680 Because I saw it on New York Post.
00:11:05.220 Who said he had the size of a lemon?
00:11:06.800 Everybody.
00:11:07.540 The girls that were with him.
00:11:09.200 The girls.
00:11:10.200 He had the size of a lemon penis.
00:11:11.880 Yeah, but small.
00:11:13.140 So what do you call it?
00:11:13.560 Might have been a kumquat.
00:11:16.560 So maybe when he was born, his parents didn't know if he was a boy or a girl.
00:11:23.060 It took like about a year or something to find out.
00:11:25.700 It's like, baby, maybe this is a girl we just had here.
00:11:28.520 Rob, you're not going to go any lower, are you?
00:11:30.020 No.
00:11:31.180 Is that what I think it is?
00:11:32.500 No, it's the New York Post.
00:11:34.260 I just don't know what the photo is.
00:11:36.020 Okay, well, have them not show it and go a little bit lower.
00:11:39.560 Oh, I see what you're doing.
00:11:41.000 He's got an elevator button.
00:11:42.400 It looks like he's got an elevator button.
00:11:45.140 I'll tell you that guy on the left.
00:11:46.360 I want to be him.
00:11:48.920 I mean, that guy needs a fucking holster.
00:11:51.960 God, if I was him, I'd have stripped the damn underwear off for that photo.
00:12:00.160 John, Rob, see who's the guy on the left?
00:12:03.420 Yeah, who's the guy on the left?
00:12:05.000 Let's give him some recognition.
00:12:06.240 God, he's going to get a lot of calls on this.
00:12:08.560 He's going to get a lot of calls.
00:12:11.520 Honey, John Morgan's talking about your dangling.
00:12:14.700 Yeah.
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