Valuetainment - April 12, 2025


“Learned From Canelo” - Ilia Topuria Reveals Where He Got His Fighting Style


Episode Stats

Length

11 minutes

Words per Minute

152.14728

Word Count

1,697

Sentence Count

180

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Have you guys spent any time with Nate and Nick Diaz or no?
00:00:03.400 Never.
00:00:03.980 Never?
00:00:04.520 No.
00:00:05.460 What do you think about those guys?
00:00:07.060 I like them.
00:00:07.860 The character they represent in the sport, I always like it.
00:00:11.740 They were so much fun to watch.
00:00:13.240 So much fun to watch.
00:00:14.660 They always provide a show for the fans.
00:00:17.680 In the most unique way, but they would do it.
00:00:22.000 You can't copy that.
00:00:23.280 No, you can't copy that.
00:00:25.140 They are very special.
00:00:26.160 Very special.
00:00:26.540 Who were your favorite fighters coming up?
00:00:28.600 I know we're talking about Conor.
00:00:29.820 We talked Diaz, but who were some of your favorite fighters?
00:00:32.300 You and your brother, you're like, oh, this guy's good.
00:00:34.060 I like watching this guy.
00:00:36.600 Like from MMA or anything?
00:00:39.680 We liked a lot Canelo.
00:00:42.300 Canelo was one of my favorite athletes.
00:00:47.520 I learned so much from him.
00:00:48.960 Why Canelo?
00:00:49.960 Technical skills?
00:00:50.860 Technical skills.
00:00:51.660 I learned like we were watching his videos, his training footage, like everything.
00:00:57.080 And we were trying to copy that, to repeat that.
00:01:00.600 He inspired us a lot.
00:01:02.540 Have you ever met him or no?
00:01:03.760 No, never.
00:01:04.320 So you guys have never trained?
00:01:06.020 Never.
00:01:06.540 Hopefully one day I met him in person.
00:01:11.280 Wow.
00:01:12.040 Elia, let me ask you, like in the specific boxing side, right?
00:01:16.620 Like when they ask him, like, hey, Jake Paul, you know, fighting is Canelo.
00:01:21.560 To Canelo, it's like, you know, it's a very different world.
00:01:24.740 Is your technical abilities in boxing, stand up?
00:01:29.560 How good do you think you stand technical abilities with somebody that's a professional boxer?
00:01:33.920 Okay, don't say Canelo because I wouldn't fight him because...
00:01:39.440 He's somebody you look up to.
00:01:40.840 Yeah.
00:01:41.080 He inspired me so much.
00:01:42.700 At some point, I said, like, I would fight him.
00:01:45.000 No, no, no.
00:01:45.600 I wouldn't.
00:01:47.620 If I prepare for six months, like only boxing, I don't do anything about wrestling, about, I don't know, knees, elbows, grappling, whatever.
00:01:59.720 Only boxing?
00:02:01.220 Put me, whoever you want in front of me.
00:02:03.320 Like, whoever, whoever.
00:02:06.240 And I hear a lot of guys talking about, like, boxers.
00:02:09.480 No, Elia, he has a good boxing for MMA, but he has nothing to do with me in the boxing ring.
00:02:16.740 I'm like, listen, you don't have anything to do with me outside, inside, whatever you want.
00:02:23.580 Like, what you want to do.
00:02:25.340 Even if you want to play a chess match, I beat you.
00:02:30.060 Why do you think that?
00:02:31.680 Why do you believe that?
00:02:32.640 Because I know how good I am in boxing.
00:02:35.720 I train every day boxing, every day.
00:02:38.580 That's part of my life.
00:02:40.340 I spar with pro boxers.
00:02:43.560 I learn boxing.
00:02:45.260 I, like, I don't know.
00:02:47.320 I consider myself that I can box with anyone.
00:02:52.940 Just give me six months.
00:02:55.560 Only boxing preparation.
00:02:57.360 I'm not even telling you, like, three, because I need to switch so many things that I do it because of MMA, like, the stance, the movement.
00:03:06.720 It's a little bit different for the boxing of MMA than for boxing, boxing.
00:03:11.880 It's a little bit different for pure boxing.
00:03:13.200 Makes sense.
00:03:14.020 And by the way, for a long, I mean, Max Holloway was known, you know, as a guy that he would say he had the best stand-up.
00:03:20.420 No, no, no.
00:03:21.160 He would say.
00:03:21.720 He was saying that, but that wasn't the truth.
00:03:24.560 So you don't even think he's the best stand-up?
00:03:26.280 No, no, no.
00:03:26.880 Compared to you or compared to anybody else?
00:03:34.280 It's not, like, take me out from the equation.
00:03:37.680 Yeah.
00:03:38.660 Like, I don't think that I saw anyone in MMA that I was, like, he has a great boxing.
00:03:49.460 No one.
00:03:50.900 It doesn't matter from...
00:03:52.880 Kana?
00:03:53.140 You see, he was one of those, but even Conor, he had a great boxing for MMA, very, I don't
00:04:05.960 know, MMA stance, you know?
00:04:09.080 In boxing, you can't go like that because you are going to suffer.
00:04:14.740 But he had better boxing than a lot of people.
00:04:19.920 He had it.
00:04:20.400 But, Max, you know, boxing is about simple movements.
00:04:25.740 You can do so much movements and switch the standards, switch the stands all the time.
00:04:32.880 That's not boxing.
00:04:34.980 In boxing, you have to be, like, very disciplined all the time and very protected.
00:04:42.380 You have to select all your combinations.
00:04:44.380 You have to move your head.
00:04:46.560 And you have to be very good to administrate your energy, you know, because you have 12 rounds.
00:04:52.640 And that's a completely different movie.
00:04:56.460 Your matchup with Makachev, where do you have the advantage?
00:04:59.200 And where does he?
00:04:59.800 This is what I told you.
00:05:09.400 You ask me, I feel that I have the advantage in everything.
00:05:13.780 This is what I truly believe you.
00:05:17.200 Me, personally, I would ask him, like, what's your favorite submission?
00:05:22.440 Whatever.
00:05:23.200 I don't know.
00:05:24.400 Dark Show.
00:05:25.080 I'm going to submit you with that.
00:05:26.460 So, if you ask him what his favorite submission is, you would do that to him?
00:05:38.500 Yeah.
00:05:41.300 This is a guy that's trained and coached by Khabib, who, you know, 28-0, you know, stories that he's never lost around in his life.
00:05:49.860 I take him close to Khabib.
00:05:51.100 I will submit him closer to Khabib.
00:05:54.020 You'll submit him in front of Khabib?
00:05:55.620 Yeah.
00:05:56.460 I take him.
00:05:59.500 Khabib used to take people in his shoulder, take them down and talk to Dana.
00:06:05.020 I would do it to Khabib.
00:06:06.500 Like, I will take him, but.
00:06:08.500 And then talk to Khabib.
00:06:09.420 Talk to Khabib.
00:06:10.240 Khabib, I have to do it.
00:06:15.480 What would you tell him?
00:06:17.080 No, I wouldn't.
00:06:17.940 I wouldn't.
00:06:18.440 Like, all the respect, but this is how I feel.
00:06:21.080 I feel that I submit him with the Dars.
00:06:23.840 Like, which one is your favorite?
00:06:25.800 Dars.
00:06:26.160 So, this part, you're not joking.
00:06:27.520 Whatever he tells you, you would do it to him.
00:06:28.600 No, no, no.
00:06:28.620 This one, I'm not joking.
00:06:29.840 Like, I truly believe that I submit him with the Dars or whatever.
00:06:34.520 I don't know.
00:06:35.780 Tell me.
00:06:36.200 Which one's your favorite?
00:06:37.060 Don't tell me.
00:06:37.680 A hell hook or some bullshit submissions that, I don't know.
00:06:43.040 Now I'm curious.
00:06:44.100 Now I'm actually curious to know what would be his, what do you think his favorite would be?
00:06:47.760 Um, I think Dars or Guillotine.
00:06:52.320 And if he says that.
00:06:53.820 Yeah, I go for that.
00:06:55.080 No problem.
00:06:55.700 It's going to be even more entertaining for me.
00:06:58.380 Yeah.
00:07:00.720 The people didn't realize that my background comes from wrestling from the ground game.
00:07:06.780 Um, I, actually I grew up in, in, in, with wrestling and with, with BJJ and I developed my skills when I was 20 years old in, in boxing game.
00:07:21.020 But my, my best skills, yeah, I'm on the ground.
00:07:28.120 It's so weird that you did this in Georgia and Spain.
00:07:32.220 Who's there?
00:07:33.140 Who, I mean, you understand, like, it's kind of weird to say that, that, cause some of the guys you're coming from this camp.
00:07:39.560 Okay.
00:07:40.500 You know, he is, he comes from what camp?
00:07:44.100 We know what camp he's coming from.
00:07:46.100 We've seen the videos.
00:07:47.340 We've seen the training.
00:07:48.220 We've seen how disciplined their camp is.
00:07:50.140 Yeah.
00:07:50.640 And everyone's from a different camp.
00:07:52.620 Who, who else is a very well-known person from the camp that you came up of outside of you and your brother?
00:07:58.500 Who is well-known?
00:08:00.520 See, that's weird.
00:08:01.820 It is.
00:08:02.480 Yes, it is.
00:08:04.160 But that's why God's everywhere.
00:08:07.920 He's everywhere.
00:08:08.780 God's everywhere.
00:08:13.340 Yeah, that's, uh.
00:08:14.780 It's weird.
00:08:15.480 It is weird.
00:08:16.180 That's the part that's very weird with you.
00:08:17.960 Where, you know, where did this come from?
00:08:19.420 Do you think, well, I mean, it's not even that because you have access to everything.
00:08:23.100 Would you guys watch a lot of YouTube and kind of repeat it, you and your brother and watch what he did?
00:08:26.980 That's what I told you.
00:08:27.900 We were the first people to go into the gym.
00:08:30.600 We were taking our phones, watching the videos.
00:08:33.960 I don't know, drills in BJJ, for example.
00:08:37.220 To take someone's back.
00:08:39.900 And we were drilling that.
00:08:41.080 Wow.
00:08:41.520 The whole day, all the drilling.
00:08:42.600 Single legs, double legs, I don't know, the cage work, boxing, kickboxing, elbows, knees, I don't know, whatever.
00:08:50.740 How can we develop our carby or our strength or power or whatever?
00:08:57.780 I was, like, so obsessed with everything.
00:09:01.680 I was working all day, every day.
00:09:03.880 That was my obsession.
00:09:05.940 All the time.
00:09:06.800 But there's not a professional UFC fighter that's coaching you guys with your career.
00:09:11.000 No.
00:09:12.220 So what is your first?
00:09:12.960 Not even a professional boxer or professional.
00:09:15.440 At all?
00:09:16.120 No one.
00:09:17.520 Elliot, that's weird.
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