"Musk Is OFF THE RAILS!" - Trump TORCHES Elon’s ‘America Party’ Power Grab
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In this episode, we discuss the latest in the ongoing saga between Alex musk and Donald Trump, and how to deal with it, as well as what to do about it, and why it matters to the American people.
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who was the most powerful person in trump's administration who was the last one the first
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one this one this one who who helped the most with this election elon perfect are they on good
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terms no i would uh was he happy with the you know big beautiful bill absolutely no trump says it's
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because the the ev stuff isn't in it and uh musk says it has nothing to do with that i it's purely
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about spending money and so musk tweets out about epstein okay and he says well here's a something
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for you the fact that trump's on the epstein list okay so now rob go to go to that one what he just
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posted yesterday what's the time oh look it's no one has been arrested all clock again it's kind of
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the jeffrey epstein pedophile arrest counter okay zero who is he calling out trump is he going to
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keep pressing on this yes who are the people that he's going to gain is he going to gain
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highly influential people or is he going to gain the mob by playing to this the mob the mob he's not
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winning the influential people he's going to win the mob the mob is going to be running towards him
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yeah and not the mob like the uh sam and the bull mob i'm talking about angry people angry brokies as
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so now watch this here so disclose this is when the usa found nothing they put the whole letters
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and i look at musk in the bottom so um then what is jillaine maxwell in prison for stuff like this
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doesn't improve faith in the government i agree it's one of the first thing i thought about why
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is maxwell in prison for 20 years by the way she's in prison for for what and i know it's for can we
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find out what she's actually she's got five different she's got five different counts on why
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she's in prison for uh uh yeah you can type it in trafficking conspiracy trafficking but but i'm
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going somewhere yeah okay she's in prison right now for five different things um let's wait for
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this rob since uh adam is asking you know sex trafficking of minor yeah transporting a minor
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would intend to engage in criminal section three counts of conspiracy to commit sex trafficking
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related felonies 20 or 750 000 fine okay so how much does this help musk's desire to want to start
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a third party big time so you just pissed him off with the bbb if no promises were made fine
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trump comes out and tweets out the following about musk because musk ran two polls one poll he ran about
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needing a third party rob i don't know if you have the first poll he says uh independence not this one
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rob there was another one he runs a first poll about a third party 80.4 percent people vote that
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they want a third party okay that's for the 80 percent of americans that's funny he says about the
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80 percent of americans and exactly 80.4 percent of americans voted that's it right there is it time
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to create a new political party in america that actually represents the 80 percent of the middle
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exactly 80 percent of people voted and said yes okay so then he puts the other poll independence day
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is the perfect time to ask if you want independence from the two-party system should we create america
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party yes 65.4 percent then he comes out and says to do this he comments on the bottom one way to
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execute on this is to be laser focused to just two to three senate seats and eight to ten house districts
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given the razor-thin legislative margins that would be enough to serve as the deciding vote on
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contentious laws ensuring that they serve the true will of the people trump response in his own truth
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social of what to say about this and his response to musk is it's very long and musk response to this
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as well he says i'm saddened to watch musk go completely off the rails essentially become a train
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wreck over the past five weeks he even wanted wants to start a third party despite the fact that there's
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never been never succeeded in the united states the system seems not designed for them uh the one
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thing third parties are good for is the creation of complete and total disruption and chaos and we
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have enough of that with our radical left democrats who have lost their confidence in their minds
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republicans on the other hand are a smooth running machine that just passed the biggest bill of its
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kind in the history of our country it is a great bill but unfortunately for elan eliminates ridiculous ev
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mandate which would have forced everyone to buy an electric car a short period of time i have been
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strongly opposed to that from the very beginning people are now allowed to buy whatever they want
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gasoline powered hybrids or new technologies no more ev mandate i've campaigned on this for two years
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and quite honestly even elan gave me his total and unquestioned endorsement i asked him whether or not
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he knew that i was going to terminate the ev mandate it was in every speech i made and in every
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conversation i had he said he has no problem with it and i was very surprised additionally
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elan asked one of his close friends to run the nasa while i thought his friend was very good i was
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surprised to learn that he had been a blue-blooded democrat who had never contributed to a republican
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party elan probably was also i also thought it's inappropriate that a very close a friend of elan
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who was in the space business to run nasa when nasa is such a big part of elan's
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corporate life my number one change rob i can't read the bottom camera's hiding it number one charge
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my number one charge can you read it is to protect the american public i think that's what it says
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yep okay so that's what he puts elan responds back i don't know if you guys saw elan's response to that
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uh uh he says oh you should see what he says he says no no not that one it's true social never heard
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of it no he says oh okay i'm good you feel like that though too long of a message uh i'm glad you
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shared how you feel sarcastic towards it all right so now about third parties what's funny is
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do you know who's the last third party that was started that became a president do you know who's
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the last third party candidate that became president no you're ready you were ready never
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happened 1860 a new party was started oh the republican party and lincoln became president oh wow
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so the last third party that was started that actually was succeeded is lincoln who became one
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of the best presidents of all time before that was like democrats and whigs i think yeah yeah so
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so so so the question becomes is this gonna create enough of a division to get some of the people from
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the mega side trump side to want to run towards him and some people from the left who don't have a
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place right now to say i'm gonna go join the uh uh musk i mean mark cuban comes out of nowhere and
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he says he'd be interested in the america party scaramucci comes out of nowhere saying i would be
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interested in the third party andrew yang came out mark cuban says i work with voter choice this will
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help you get on ballots this is their mission so there's there's the people who cannot stand trump
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now are coming towards musk tom your thoughts third party and the the whole fallen out
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of how epstein was managed do you think that's going to influence musk to go even further with
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america party well musk has a chip on his shoulder because there's two sides to um tesla and i connected
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with a couple people last night was talking about it and they agreed with with my take my take is
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everybody's looking at the cars it's not the cars 60 60 ladies and gentlemen of the high voltage
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chargers in america are owned and operated by tesla under contracts with literally every other ev maker
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so when you take away the ev mandate you're not just you know causing issues with tesla the car company
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you're causing issues with vinnie tesla the gas station the electric gas station and so there's a lot of that
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and that and he's real upset about it and there was an altercation with scott besant something happened
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you know um did scott besant get under his skin or get into his right eye you know i mean or maybe a
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little of both or did somebody charge somebody else i don't know but clearly you have a very angry
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um uh elan so now he's angry now to answer your question directly pat he realized how he could
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influence an election because he just did he went out there with his money and his support
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and everything that went with it was it good that rfk walked on stage in phoenix yes it was
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was that helpful yes it was was rfk trying to pull himself off the ballots but the democrats
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wouldn't let him remember no no yes they put you got to keep doing this yeah there was that shenanigans
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going on but elon musk learned through the election that he could influence it and so now he's upset
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he's pissed off for many reasons his buddy i think his reason trump talked about that i think his buddy
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not being on nasa really upset him and the ev mandate has upset him so if you're elon musk it doesn't have
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to be rational pat right it's just wait a minute did not help just you get guys get elected and now i know
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we talked about the ev mandate but this really screws with mitesla on both sides the service
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station the electric service station side and my cars and now you you won't even let me i just helped
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you guys i just helped you get a couple guys home that boeing couldn't and so now you're not even
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going to help me maybe one of my guys isn't this the way it works the life insurance industry and all
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these different industries have their desires in washington and they talk to their senators and said
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this could help that could help now i talk to you and i don't get it and now what's going on here
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he's tapping in to america's feelings about fairness and he's connecting with that and he's got people
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that are coming up like mark cuban who is a dissatisfied guy on more far more left but a dissatisfied
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guy and so now we have this it's not as simple and i went back and looked at this it's not as simple
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as what happened in connecticut in connecticut you know they got upset they are really upset with their
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senator and so they said we're going to primary you and they did and what happened boom they got their
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guy on the ballot and he was primaried out and then what he did i'll run as an independent and the rest
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of connecticut came back and said well now that we can all vote not just the democrats we voted for
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our guy and suddenly we have an independent senator so away we go so you can see cases where it's
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happened and he's right about one thing strategically i think he needs more than that i think you need
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four senators and about 10 seats but he's not wrong in the point we're only talking about the math here
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because i went back and looked at his math but four and ten with the current fractured congress
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and senate you could control a hell of a lot you could influence a hell of a lot because you could
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be the deciding vote and said nope you got to go back you know pork remember what we found out was in
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the inflation reduction act money for ukraine how does that well guess what it's in every bill so now
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these people in the america party could go in and say hey i need this and i need this and now you've
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got our votes and you're over the top but i need this there's a there's there's one thing the so you
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got andrew yank that started a party right called the forward party and this is the whole ubi thing
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right universal basic income when he had some momentum but nothing's happened with the forward
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party nobody andrew yank doesn't have to kind of wait that uh musk has the last most closest thing
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to comparison you can make to starting the third party is ross perot ross perot spent 63 million
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dollars 60 million dollars in 1992 running for office to become president and he got all the
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way up to 18.7 19 percent when he ran in 92 but he ran as an independent in 92 then two years later he
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starts a new political party called the reform party and he spends 10 or 50 million dollars to start a
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reform party and he runs again in 96 but in 96 with a new political party reform party he only gets 8.4
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percent now to compare ross to musk ross was worth three billion dollars at the time what's three
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billion dollars tom in 92 in today's money three billion and 92 in today's money say at the low end
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six billion at the high end 20 billion is that fair i think it's probably around eight let's do we can
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we do the calculation okay so let's just say okay three billion and 92 would be 6.7 million dollars
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today no problem okay all right so let's just say he's worth seven billion musk today is worth what
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what is musk worth today 600 that's you know he's worth 300 billion dollars 400 billion dollars
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some number like that remember uh tesla lost 80 billion dollars of valuation yesterday so what's
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his net worth today musk is going to be roughly 346 billion dollars net worth okay he lost 15 billion
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dollars yesterday devastated financially right obviously he's not he's got 350 billion dollars
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so he's got about a hundred times more money than ross pearl had now what did ross pearl have that
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elan doesn't have what's the one thing ross pearl had when he started a political party that musk
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doesn't have one thing you know what it is ross pearls is an actual natural born born citizen which
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means later on the reform party you know what happened when's the last time you heard about the
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reform party nothing pat buchanan there was a fight you know i can't believe this i can't believe
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that and it completely disappeared so say musk go starts a political party then he needs a face
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the person to be the face to run to become a president for him he has to assume that person's
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going to listen to 100 of what musk tells him to do who's going to be that person think about what i
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just said okay he has to assume tom that whoever he gets has to listen to 100 of what he says
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who's that going to be vivek i don't think so vivek has got a strong personality is he going to go
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after jd vance because some say that's his candidate through peter thiel who's he going to go get so you
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go start a political party who's going to be the main guy who's going to be your guy i don't think
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it's vivek i don't think it's strong enough again the challenge no matter who it is though
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what bothers elan is that you don't do you have to do 100 of what elan believes
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or else what's the point of him starting a political party yeah you're right think about
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what i'm saying to you right now is he going to be able to control a hundred percent
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of any individual that runs so here's what happens they get into the office what's the
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person people going to say hey man i just want to make sure you're not owned by elan are you are
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you your own your own man i'm my own man i've been saying this since such and such really so
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now what's elan gonna do attack him again yeah exactly but doesn't matter you can attack again
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he's in he doesn't have to listen to you anymore yeah dude so so then in his mind he's gonna be
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like well then maybe i need to get into the blackmail business i was just gonna say that record him
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doing something maybe i need to get into the blackmail business that i really can have 100 control of
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you there you go that's how it works you know what i'm saying so eventually you know the only way
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you can get a candidate to do 100 of what you tell him to do is you gotta have some blackmail on
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them damn right so that's because you're not born here so how much money you think elan would be
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willing to spend to change the laws for him to be able to run for office a billion dollars how much
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money do you think he would spend because that's the only thing that's in his way yeah i think it'd be
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hopefully the answer is zero because if you're not born in america i don't think you should be able
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to be president but no he's starting a party i'm asking you how much money do you think he would be
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willing to spend to pass a law where somebody like him can run because then then and only then
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would he be able to control exactly what policies would get passed if he was in well what type of
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money he was had the ability to run for as president yes i think he would spend all his money i agree
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not all his money i think he'd spend 50 billion dollars i think he'd spend 50 billion dollars
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i thought you were talking about who to put for another i agree for himself remember we're talking
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about congressional for him for him to oh that's 50 would be like because i'm thinking about he just
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lost 80 just on on a stock for him to run exactly oh he would and i think he owns what 15 percent of
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tesla whatever the number is yeah so the the thing that i keep going back to is something that you
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basically told us at the beginning of the year the concept of signal versus noise so kevin o'leary
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actually just came out it was a great story he told about steve jobs but i guess he worked for
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steve jobs and he talked about how steve jobs we called an asshole by the way had this unique
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ability to stay focused on the signal and tune out the noise and he basically uh edifies elon he goes
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elon musk does it better than anybody the way that he has the ability to just tune out all the noise
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and and focus 100 on signal so my counter argument to me with that is him forming this third party
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this a new america party is this signal signal or is this noise to me it's kind of a lot of noise
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because if you look at his uh how much money did they lose in tesla just now 80 billion dollars
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all right let's see how much they lose today there's a lot of people who are part of his
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companies that are like dude enough did you hear what this politics stuff right play what scott
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besson said watch see if you have that yeah scott besson said they asked him about uh musk starting
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a third political party watch what he said here um it's not a big secret that you had your
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differences with elon musk when he was working in the administration he announced this weekend that
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he is starting a new political party does that worry the trump administration look uh the principles of
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doge were very popular i think if you looked at the polling elon was not so uh i believe that the
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boards of directors at his various companies wanted him to come back and run those companies
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which he is better at than anyone so i imagine that those board of directors did not like this
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announcement yesterday and will be encouraging him to focus on his business activities not his
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political activities yeah i fully agree i think scott besson already knows the answer to that question
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yeah think about it if you're elon musk board members and everything and everything connected in the
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the legislative world excuse me the compliance world that is wall street you don't think
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besson has heard whispers from some of the people that are on those boards of course tesla spake
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especially the tesla board and the compensation committee that said no neural link boring company
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um starlink uh twitter x xai all these companies need to be run and now he's completely focusing on
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the noise that is this this third party but i guess it all depends on the objective if you want to
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sort of just shape the narrative or shape policy there's a possibility to do that with a third
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party but your chances get lower and lower and lower the bigger your dream so if you want to have
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seats in local or state congress all right great we can make that happen if you want to even get on
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the stage the presidential debates all right ross perot did it i don't know but to win electoral votes
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zero percent chance nobody's ever won an electoral vote since basically the civil war to win the
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presidency zero percent chance so it seems like a pipe dream to me but if you want to affect
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change locally all right let's see what happens elon elon needs to read the book that one of my
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friends you know him uh patrick david wrote it's called choose your enemies wisely this is the worst
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enemy to pick is donald trump this is the worst enemy to pick the whole third all this all this
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nonsense it's like bro you got allegedly got punched in the face by freaking scott bessett just
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move on he said it was his son he said it was his four-year-old son well listen but but here's the
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thing that the trump is the it's not the guy to go to war with in this arena i'm sorry republicans
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alone he has then the maga it's like bro it's it's not gonna work it's again you nailed it it's all
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noise it's all noise but you think trump is really focusing like trump is going to be how committed
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do you think elon is to this meaning does he have the stomach to go through this and through this and
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through this at the expense of his board his shareholders his stock prices plummeting plummeting
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at what point does he just bail nobody can pull the ripcord this guy he has it he has a stomach to
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go do it but it's his businesses may take a hit uh and he may find a different strategy to go about it
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right now you have to realize this is a guy that to have the level of drive that he has that drive
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doesn't come just because you want to be somebody that drive doesn't come just because you want to
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have money that drive doesn't come because he wants a nice car and impress the girls the guy's been with
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you know enough girls to to where he can put that list together and impress anybody else's list of girls
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that they've been with right this is about who offended him at what level the guy's been offended
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at the highest level by the most powerful man in the world trump and that level of being publicly
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humiliated and offended he's not going to let go he's not so what you're saying he's being emotional
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no he's no no that's his fuel you know the people run on different kind of octane fuel you know some
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cars can't run on the same high octane fuel as other cars run on you you you put it in there it's just
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not going to work some cars are evs yeah sometimes you need ev manding this guy's a high
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octane offensive you offend him he ain't forgetting about think about the like michael jordan was
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known as the ultimate grudge guy he held grudges at the highest level this guy's on top of that
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because jordan only held grudges in what sport basketball this guy holds a grudge in everything
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in every single thing it is not going away anytime soon it's not going away anytime soon
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and i have a feeling that one tweet you guys remember when he said you guys have to realize
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you have only trump for four more years you got me for 40 more years yeah he ain't lying
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he revealed so much in that one hour of all the tweets you learn so much about every one of his
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motives and all of those tweets that he put up do you remember which one i'm talking about when he
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said trump's only 40 you know you only have trump for no he deleted the tweet so my memory doesn't
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exist yeah exactly it doesn't exist anymore so if you're asking a question i think this guy is just
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getting started and if he wants to start a political party the only thing and i guarantee this is the one
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right there rob you have it this is when he says uh uh uh if you can find this rob i'm looking for an
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actual photo of the tweet yeah the tweet's gone what does it say uh the images should be oh there
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it is is that the one no no that's not the one oh here it is right here save that says oh and for
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some food for thought as they pondered this question trump has three and a half years left as a president
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i will be around for 40 years this may be the most powerful tweet he's ever tweeted that nobody paid
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attention to look at that no one paid attention that's nothing 16 000 likes 2.6 million views
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that is nothing nobody saw this this is exactly what you're going to hear about for decades to come
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you will see that tweet will be showing for a very long time to come rob save that tweet because that
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ain't going away anytime soon this guy's got a chip at the highest level and he's going to be coming
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and he's going to be recruiting and he's going to be very aggressively recruiting but he's going to
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have a wall he's going to hit tom he's going to have a wall he's going to hit you know what that wall
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is he can't be ross perot nope exactly and by the way it's not as simple as just passing a law
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he has to get you know congress and the senate pass it and then he's got to go through each state two
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three-thirds of the u.s states complicated very complicated some states virginia very complicated
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each signature in virginia it costs you 40 to 100 000 it's a it's a lot of work but if there is a
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guy that could pull it off tom it's this guy the lemon box that we launched okay this campaign that
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we launched with the messages rob if you can go to it i absolutely love the stories that we're getting
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the testimonies that we're getting rob okay the zested forward that you open it up with a video
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being played with the hat and the merch being in it and it's a heartfelt message to people that are
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going through tough times today if you haven't yet sent this to anybody listen i challenge you
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i encourage you send it to someone see their reaction here's some of the notes we got recently
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from three people that have been using the lemon box here's somebody named patrick phenomenal name
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hi guys i gave it to my wife as part of her mother's day gift she's a national sales manager
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for a yacht company and found it to be very encouraging she teared up when she received it
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and i'm sure she will open the box again and listen to it over and over and over again thank you
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uh rob if you can go to the next one here's something from karen the recipient loved the lemon box
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with the hat and video it was uh just what she needed to pull her out of a bad time thanks for such
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creative ways we can express love and encouragement to people who need just a bit of recognition and then
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the next one here we have a magnea bought these boxes for my son bought this box for my son who was
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going through some hard times when he got it called me crying because he said it was exactly what he
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needed and thought this gift will get this gift was the most thoughtful thing he had received if life
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gives you lemons make lemonade is a simple message and a great message for so many pbd's message in the
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box was awesome loved it so if you got somebody that's going through things folks job career family
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marriage personal life go to vtmerge.com zest it forward send it to somebody sometimes we love getting
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stuff for ourselves but sometimes we just want to make somebody else's day you can't wait for them
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to message you and tell you how grateful they are for that and on top of that ladies you've been
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asking about it and uh my wife some other ladies kim others been saying pat we need some sports gear
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for the ladies so here's what we have now as well that's officially launched on vtmerge.com go for it rob
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so make sure the golf cart doesn't come with the purchase
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we got some fit ladies that work we got a gym i'm so you know i'm a little offended ladies you guys
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didn't ask me to be in it i could have worn a wig no we're not doing that we want real ladies is what
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we want not the one you dress up to be sometimes finney so go real to vtmerge.com place your order
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when you do you will receive a vt i love vt keychain gang we know most of our listeners are men and we
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know most men what we are tend to do is we tend to procrastinate the ladies will buy gifts for you
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guys go buy some gear for your wife for your girlfriend for your loved ones and uh send it to
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them surprise them go to vtmerge.com make someone's day today if you enjoy this video you want to watch
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