Valuetainment - June 05, 2026


“No OUTRAGE For Henry Nowak？” - Mehdi Hasan PRESSED On U.K.'s Crime CRISIS


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6 minutes

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224.88687

Word count

1,491

Sentence count

106


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00:00:00.000 What do you think about what happened to Henry Nowak?
00:00:02.600 Who's Henry Nowak?
00:00:03.320 You don't know who Henry Nowak is?
00:00:05.440 I will if you remind me.
00:00:06.180 Can you pull it up, Rob?
00:00:07.280 Henry Nowak, this is the guy in Southampton, England,
00:00:11.140 last year, December 3rd, 2025.
00:00:13.440 18-year-old kid is going home, murdered by Vikram Digwa.
00:00:17.740 The video just came out.
00:00:19.820 The Vikram guy stabs Henry Nowak.
00:00:24.480 That's the problem.
00:00:25.020 Media's not even talking about this.
00:00:26.740 Stabs Henry Nowak.
00:00:27.740 I don't know how many times.
00:00:30.000 cut and stabbed Nowak a total of five times with a knife.
00:00:32.820 When police arrived, Digo accused Nowak of assault,
00:00:36.340 and officers handcuffed Nowak.
00:00:38.100 He died shortly after being handcuffed.
00:00:39.940 The video came out, I think, yesterday, Rob, if you want to pull it up.
00:00:43.000 And it showed the guy can't breathe.
00:00:45.440 He's having a hard time breathing.
00:00:46.780 He's telling the cops, I can't breathe.
00:00:49.100 I can't breathe. I can't breathe.
00:00:51.180 All of a sudden, he dies.
00:00:53.300 And they said, no, you said some racist comments.
00:00:55.440 Rob, I send the video to you in the notes if you go to it.
00:00:58.700 Okay, so what's the point of that?
00:01:00.800 But I'm going to tell you what's the point.
00:01:01.960 No, no.
00:01:02.400 It's horrible.
00:01:03.000 No, but because the cops sided with Degua.
00:01:06.540 They said Degua told them that he made racist comments.
00:01:10.420 And with the guy saying, I was stabbed by these guys, he's running away.
00:01:13.940 They caught him.
00:01:14.400 The guy had an eight-inch knife, the typical, the Sikh, what do you call it?
00:01:20.720 Ceremonial knife that they have.
00:01:21.820 You know which one I'm talking about.
00:01:23.040 So he gets stabbed.
00:01:24.160 Now they want to ban.
00:01:24.780 I did see British politicians say they want to ban it,
00:01:27.300 and I didn't realize the context.
00:01:28.260 this is the context and this is the context and they said they wanted to ban it keir starmer came
00:01:31.620 out today and said no we're not going to ban it but you know what you can't have in england you
00:01:35.220 know what you can't have in england you can't even have pepper spray pepper spray has not been
00:01:38.700 legal since 68 but they can have that knife how does that make any sense so for me you and i can
00:01:43.500 cherry pick stories on both sides to create rage on why this or that but the stats are the stats
00:01:48.840 so when you're saying that story about america and uk you hear a story like this where is the
00:01:53.880 rage with this where's that's not even a free speed story we were talking about free speed you
00:01:57.060 brought up stats about social media arrests
00:01:59.060 and I'm saying to you, right now in the US
00:02:01.300 you can be arrested by this government
00:02:03.160 detained for a year without charge
00:02:04.840 because you said something the government doesn't like
00:02:07.180 about Israel, by the way, about a foreign country
00:02:08.900 it's not even about the American government, you're not even criticizing the American government
00:02:11.240 you're criticizing a foreign government. I'm going to go look it up
00:02:13.120 and I'll give you my response to you personally myself
00:02:15.240 Have them on your show, have Molson Madawi
00:02:17.180 on your show, have
00:02:18.380 Badr Khan Suri who's in court right now on your show
00:02:21.200 Georgetown's doing, these guys were picked up off the
00:02:23.140 streets by men, masked men
00:02:25.180 These people love America
00:02:27.240 Yes
00:02:27.980 I don't know
00:02:29.960 Are they planning on staying here
00:02:31.040 Mahmoud Khalil is married
00:02:32.580 He had a kid while he was in prison
00:02:34.320 Donald Trump
00:02:35.040 The family values party
00:02:36.040 The Republican Party didn't let this guy be
00:02:37.280 With his wife when she gave birth
00:02:38.580 Didn't let him hold his baby
00:02:39.420 What do you say about Henry Nowak
00:02:40.680 What I just showed you
00:02:41.320 I think that's horrific
00:02:41.920 I think that's horrific
00:02:43.320 I don't know the details
00:02:45.320 But obviously the police got it wrong
00:02:46.460 This is the part that kind of
00:02:47.740 So you represented the media on the left
00:02:50.960 Okay
00:02:51.400 So Rob can you go back to that story
00:02:53.500 That New York Times
00:02:54.360 if you search the two different words of George Floyd
00:02:58.140 versus what happened with Novak.
00:02:59.940 You just had it up right now a minute ago.
00:03:03.120 Oh, come on.
00:03:03.900 You're going to do this?
00:03:04.720 No, he's going to be fine.
00:03:05.800 The media is...
00:03:06.540 But wait a minute.
00:03:07.280 This is New York Times.
00:03:08.180 Go to the first one.
00:03:08.920 I'm not a fan of the news.
00:03:09.560 You type in Henry Novak.
00:03:10.920 How many names?
00:03:12.060 Results, 19.
00:03:12.900 Go to the next one, Rob.
00:03:15.440 George Floyd, 63, 97.
00:03:17.280 There is no incentive to tell this story
00:03:19.140 because it doesn't go with the narrative.
00:03:21.360 So I disagree with you.
00:03:22.920 I grew up in the U.K.
00:03:23.800 right-wing media has been telling these stories all my life.
00:03:26.640 All my life, all I've seen is black people and Muslim people on the front pages.
00:03:30.340 Have you looked at the front pages, the Daily Mail, the Daily Express?
00:03:32.420 What do you mean the UK is being destroyed?
00:03:33.600 You think the UK is doing good?
00:03:34.800 I mean, no, but not for the reasons you think.
00:03:37.060 So why do you think the UK is not doing good?
00:03:39.200 I think economically it's doing very badly.
00:03:40.720 It had very bad leadership for the last 15 years.
00:03:43.340 The conservative government that came in in 2010
00:03:45.720 did an austerity program after the financial crisis, basically destroyed.
00:03:49.900 David Cameron and George Osborne did an austerity program
00:03:52.280 that basically gutted the British state, gutted
00:03:54.220 our competitiveness, didn't cut
00:03:56.200 the deficit, actually ruined our fiscal
00:03:58.340 credibility, downgraded our credit rating,
00:04:00.860 destroyed our growth over the course
00:04:02.220 of a decade, undermined our health service.
00:04:04.440 Do you put anything tied to immigration
00:04:06.220 to that? No. None.
00:04:08.360 Immigration has been a boost for the British economy.
00:04:10.100 In fact, cutting immigration's back. Look at Brexit.
00:04:12.000 Brexit's been a disaster for the British economy. Do you know how
00:04:14.120 many people in Britain want to rejoin the EU?
00:04:15.940 A majority. Pull that up. A majority of Britons
00:04:18.140 want to go back into the EU. Why do you think that is?
00:04:20.040 Why do you think that is, Patrick?
00:04:21.000 Do you think...
00:04:21.960 Why do you think Britain's want to go back into the EU?
00:04:24.880 You just said Britain's being destroyed.
00:04:26.120 No, but have you looked at the crime numbers, what's going on in the UK?
00:04:30.620 Crime is very low.
00:04:31.740 Have you looked at what's going on?
00:04:32.500 Crime is very low, Patrick.
00:04:33.680 So let me ask you.
00:04:34.780 Do you know what the crime rate in London is?
00:04:36.420 Did you see the tweet that came out yesterday?
00:04:37.720 I know you're not a fan of Sadek Khan.
00:04:39.040 You're not a fan of my good friend Sadek Khan, are you?
00:04:40.720 What EU did...
00:04:41.520 You saw the tweet that came out, what EU was saying they're doing,
00:04:44.720 that they want to find a way to get rid of illegal immigrants?
00:04:47.060 Okay, you're jumping around, Patrick.
00:04:48.020 Britain is not in the EU.
00:04:49.040 We're talking about Britain.
00:04:49.540 And you just said, Britain's being destroyed, which is nonsense.
00:04:52.200 And then you said crime rate.
00:04:53.920 Have you looked at the London crime rates?
00:04:55.940 Last year, London had its lowest per capita murder rate since records began.
00:05:01.020 Had the lowest volume of homicides for 30 years under Sadek Khan, third term mayor,
00:05:05.000 who people in America, Elon Musk, Donald Trump, get very worked up about.
00:05:08.140 I don't know if you guys get worked up about him.
00:05:09.820 Been a very successful mayor and crime has come down by record numbers.
00:05:13.480 Violent crime and murder.
00:05:14.280 When you're looking at EU, do you know which country in EU has the lowest rape rate?
00:05:18.600 Let's talk about the UK, Patrick.
00:05:19.600 Stay with UK.
00:05:20.600 The UK is not in the EU anymore, sadly.
00:05:22.120 UK to me, I'll put them somewhat together in the same area.
00:05:24.820 They left 10 years ago.
00:05:25.540 By the way, so you're saying immigration coming from all these countries
00:05:28.800 has been a successful project for the EU.
00:05:30.880 What's your definition of success?
00:05:33.700 Many different ways.
00:05:35.060 Economically, the EU desperately needs migrants.
00:05:36.880 Have you seen the age rate pull up, the demographic?
00:05:39.120 It's a dying continent with a very low birth rate, as Elon Musk likes to point out.
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