Valuetainment - June 05, 2026


“No OUTRAGE For Henry Nowak？” - Mehdi Hasan PRESSED On U.K.'s Crime CRISIS


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Length

6 minutes

Words per minute

224.89

Word count

1,491

Sentence count

106

Harmful content

Hate speech

4

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Summary

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Rob and Yusuf discuss the recent death of Henry Nowak, and how the media and the right wing media are completely ignoring the details of the story and ignoring the facts. They also discuss the use of pepper spray in the UK, and why it should be banned in the US.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 What do you think about what happened to Henry Nowak?
00:00:02.600 Who's Henry Nowak?
00:00:03.320 You don't know who Henry Nowak is?
00:00:05.440 I will if you remind me.
00:00:06.180 Can you pull it up, Rob?
00:00:07.280 Henry Nowak, this is the guy in Southampton, England,
00:00:11.140 last year, December 3rd, 2025.
00:00:13.440 18-year-old kid is going home, murdered by Vikram Digwa.
00:00:17.740 The video just came out.
00:00:19.820 The Vikram guy stabs Henry Nowak.
00:00:24.480 That's the problem.
00:00:25.020 Media's not even talking about this.
00:00:26.740 Stabs Henry Nowak.
00:00:27.740 I don't know how many times.
00:00:30.000 cut and stabbed Nowak a total of five times with a knife.
00:00:32.820 When police arrived, Digo accused Nowak of assault,
00:00:36.340 and officers handcuffed Nowak.
00:00:38.100 He died shortly after being handcuffed.
00:00:39.940 The video came out, I think, yesterday, Rob, if you want to pull it up.
00:00:43.000 And it showed the guy can't breathe.
00:00:45.440 He's having a hard time breathing.
00:00:46.780 He's telling the cops, I can't breathe.
00:00:49.100 I can't breathe. I can't breathe.
00:00:51.180 All of a sudden, he dies.
00:00:53.300 And they said, no, you said some racist comments.
00:00:55.440 Rob, I send the video to you in the notes if you go to it.
00:00:58.700 Okay, so what's the point of that?
00:01:00.800 But I'm going to tell you what's the point.
00:01:01.960 No, no.
00:01:02.400 It's horrible.
00:01:03.000 No, but because the cops sided with Degua.
00:01:06.540 They said Degua told them that he made racist comments.
00:01:10.420 And with the guy saying, I was stabbed by these guys, he's running away.
00:01:13.940 They caught him. 1.00
00:01:14.400 The guy had an eight-inch knife, the typical, the Sikh, what do you call it? 1.00
00:01:20.720 Ceremonial knife that they have. 1.00
00:01:21.820 You know which one I'm talking about.
00:01:23.040 So he gets stabbed.
00:01:24.160 Now they want to ban.
00:01:24.780 I did see British politicians say they want to ban it,
00:01:27.300 and I didn't realize the context.
00:01:28.260 this is the context and this is the context and they said they wanted to ban it keir starmer came
00:01:31.620 out today and said no we're not going to ban it but you know what you can't have in england you
00:01:35.220 know what you can't have in england you can't even have pepper spray pepper spray has not been
00:01:38.700 legal since 68 but they can have that knife how does that make any sense so for me you and i can
00:01:43.500 cherry pick stories on both sides to create rage on why this or that but the stats are the stats
00:01:48.840 so when you're saying that story about america and uk you hear a story like this where is the
00:01:53.880 rage with this where's that's not even a free speed story we were talking about free speed you
00:01:57.060 brought up stats about social media arrests
00:01:59.060 and I'm saying to you, right now in the US
00:02:01.300 you can be arrested by this government
00:02:03.160 detained for a year without charge
00:02:04.840 because you said something the government doesn't like
00:02:07.180 about Israel, by the way, about a foreign country
00:02:08.900 it's not even about the American government, you're not even criticizing the American government
00:02:11.240 you're criticizing a foreign government. I'm going to go look it up
00:02:13.120 and I'll give you my response to you personally myself
00:02:15.240 Have them on your show, have Molson Madawi
00:02:17.180 on your show, have
00:02:18.380 Badr Khan Suri who's in court right now on your show
00:02:21.200 Georgetown's doing, these guys were picked up off the
00:02:23.140 streets by men, masked men
00:02:25.180 These people love America
00:02:27.240 Yes
00:02:27.980 I don't know
00:02:29.960 Are they planning on staying here
00:02:31.040 Mahmoud Khalil is married
00:02:32.580 He had a kid while he was in prison
00:02:34.320 Donald Trump
00:02:35.040 The family values party
00:02:36.040 The Republican Party didn't let this guy be
00:02:37.280 With his wife when she gave birth
00:02:38.580 Didn't let him hold his baby
00:02:39.420 What do you say about Henry Nowak
00:02:40.680 What I just showed you
00:02:41.320 I think that's horrific
00:02:41.920 I think that's horrific
00:02:43.320 I don't know the details
00:02:45.320 But obviously the police got it wrong
00:02:46.460 This is the part that kind of
00:02:47.740 So you represented the media on the left
00:02:50.960 Okay
00:02:51.400 So Rob can you go back to that story
00:02:53.500 That New York Times
00:02:54.360 if you search the two different words of George Floyd
00:02:58.140 versus what happened with Novak.
00:02:59.940 You just had it up right now a minute ago.
00:03:03.120 Oh, come on.
00:03:03.900 You're going to do this?
00:03:04.720 No, he's going to be fine.
00:03:05.800 The media is...
00:03:06.540 But wait a minute.
00:03:07.280 This is New York Times.
00:03:08.180 Go to the first one.
00:03:08.920 I'm not a fan of the news.
00:03:09.560 You type in Henry Novak.
00:03:10.920 How many names?
00:03:12.060 Results, 19.
00:03:12.900 Go to the next one, Rob.
00:03:15.440 George Floyd, 63, 97.
00:03:17.280 There is no incentive to tell this story
00:03:19.140 because it doesn't go with the narrative.
00:03:21.360 So I disagree with you.
00:03:22.920 I grew up in the U.K.
00:03:23.800 right-wing media has been telling these stories all my life.
00:03:26.640 All my life, all I've seen is black people and Muslim people on the front pages.
00:03:30.340 Have you looked at the front pages, the Daily Mail, the Daily Express? 1.00
00:03:32.420 What do you mean the UK is being destroyed?
00:03:33.600 You think the UK is doing good?
00:03:34.800 I mean, no, but not for the reasons you think.
00:03:37.060 So why do you think the UK is not doing good?
00:03:39.200 I think economically it's doing very badly.
00:03:40.720 It had very bad leadership for the last 15 years.
00:03:43.340 The conservative government that came in in 2010
00:03:45.720 did an austerity program after the financial crisis, basically destroyed.
00:03:49.900 David Cameron and George Osborne did an austerity program
00:03:52.280 that basically gutted the British state, gutted
00:03:54.220 our competitiveness, didn't cut
00:03:56.200 the deficit, actually ruined our fiscal
00:03:58.340 credibility, downgraded our credit rating,
00:04:00.860 destroyed our growth over the course
00:04:02.220 of a decade, undermined our health service.
00:04:04.440 Do you put anything tied to immigration
00:04:06.220 to that? No. None.
00:04:08.360 Immigration has been a boost for the British economy.
00:04:10.100 In fact, cutting immigration's back. Look at Brexit.
00:04:12.000 Brexit's been a disaster for the British economy. Do you know how
00:04:14.120 many people in Britain want to rejoin the EU?
00:04:15.940 A majority. Pull that up. A majority of Britons
00:04:18.140 want to go back into the EU. Why do you think that is?
00:04:20.040 Why do you think that is, Patrick?
00:04:21.000 Do you think...
00:04:21.960 Why do you think Britain's want to go back into the EU?
00:04:24.880 You just said Britain's being destroyed.
00:04:26.120 No, but have you looked at the crime numbers, what's going on in the UK?
00:04:30.620 Crime is very low.
00:04:31.740 Have you looked at what's going on?
00:04:32.500 Crime is very low, Patrick.
00:04:33.680 So let me ask you.
00:04:34.780 Do you know what the crime rate in London is?
00:04:36.420 Did you see the tweet that came out yesterday?
00:04:37.720 I know you're not a fan of Sadek Khan.
00:04:39.040 You're not a fan of my good friend Sadek Khan, are you?
00:04:40.720 What EU did...
00:04:41.520 You saw the tweet that came out, what EU was saying they're doing,
00:04:44.720 that they want to find a way to get rid of illegal immigrants?
00:04:47.060 Okay, you're jumping around, Patrick.
00:04:48.020 Britain is not in the EU.
00:04:49.040 We're talking about Britain.
00:04:49.540 And you just said, Britain's being destroyed, which is nonsense.
00:04:52.200 And then you said crime rate.
00:04:53.920 Have you looked at the London crime rates?
00:04:55.940 Last year, London had its lowest per capita murder rate since records began.
00:05:01.020 Had the lowest volume of homicides for 30 years under Sadek Khan, third term mayor,
00:05:05.000 who people in America, Elon Musk, Donald Trump, get very worked up about.
00:05:08.140 I don't know if you guys get worked up about him.
00:05:09.820 Been a very successful mayor and crime has come down by record numbers.
00:05:13.480 Violent crime and murder.
00:05:14.280 When you're looking at EU, do you know which country in EU has the lowest rape rate?
00:05:18.600 Let's talk about the UK, Patrick.
00:05:19.600 Stay with UK.
00:05:20.600 The UK is not in the EU anymore, sadly.
00:05:22.120 UK to me, I'll put them somewhat together in the same area.
00:05:24.820 They left 10 years ago.
00:05:25.540 By the way, so you're saying immigration coming from all these countries
00:05:28.800 has been a successful project for the EU.
00:05:30.880 What's your definition of success?
00:05:33.700 Many different ways.
00:05:35.060 Economically, the EU desperately needs migrants.
00:05:36.880 Have you seen the age rate pull up, the demographic?
00:05:39.120 It's a dying continent with a very low birth rate, as Elon Musk likes to point out.
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