Valuetainment - August 12, 2025


"Predators Getting Kids" - The DARK TRUTH Behind Surrogacy Loopholes Putting Kids At Risk


Episode Stats

Length

14 minutes

Words per Minute

188.02042

Word Count

2,800

Sentence Count

3

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

Rob and Vinnie are joined by special guest Tom to discuss Florida's new legislation to protect kids from sexual predators through surrogacy, adoption and foster care. They discuss the pros and cons of the proposed legislation and what they think about it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 and while we're talking about california new york florida attorney general proposes legislation to
00:00:05.200 stop sexual predators and pursuing from pursuing surrogacy adoption and foster care okay so let me
00:00:12.400 read the story to you rob is it a video yes sir go for it this is attorney general james
00:00:17.280 uthmeyer by now you know my goal is to make florida the safest state to raise a family
00:00:24.160 as a father of three little ones my wife gene and i know that there is no greater blessing
00:00:29.280 from god than to have children there's also no greater responsibility than to bring up good
00:00:35.520 citizens i know there are many couples out there that are unable to have kids and many are turning
00:00:41.360 to technology and various resources in the hopes of aiding their quest for parenthood surrogacy being
00:00:48.160 one of these options that said in florida we have a responsibility as leaders to protect families
00:00:55.520 and we've seen situations lately where surrogacy has exposed kids to dangerous harm in pennsylvania
00:01:02.400 we recently saw a homosexual couple including a registered sex offender celebrate bringing home
00:01:09.120 a newborn in other states we've seen situations where parents have obtained children through
00:01:16.160 surrogacy or adoption only to then subject them to repeated sexual abuse this cannot and okay so do you
00:01:26.480 see the sensible ideas to protect kids and families do you see that do you see the sensible complete
00:01:34.400 opposite of trying to protect transgenders in new york with your taxpayer money that's the difference
00:01:41.600 if you have a family and you got kids and this is the story i was talking about oh you found it yes
00:01:46.320 this is two weeks ago bizarre discovery of 21 children in la home raises questions about lack
00:01:52.080 of regulations for surrogacy what let me read this story and i'll come to this one rob if you can keep
00:01:57.440 this one this one up because they kind of go together so you heard what story he talked about
00:02:01.840 right highlighting what is going on here the removal of 21 children from the custody of la
00:02:06.960 area couple has put a spotlight on a practice of using surrogacy to build a family surrogacy
00:02:11.920 has no federal regulation leaving it up to the states to set the rules if they choose to allow what
00:02:16.880 what what the kids 15 at the couple's mansion and six more living elsewhere were taken by an la county
00:02:24.320 child welfare agency in may after the parents were accused of failing to intervene and the abuse
00:02:30.240 of a baby by nanny police in arcadia said the children range in
00:02:33.760 age from two months to 13 years old with most between one and three police said the fbi won't
00:02:40.560 comment but agents are investigating sylvia zhang 38 and guirjon one 65 swan have not responded to
00:02:48.400 email seeking comment police have zhang believe zhang gave birth to one or two of the children while
00:02:52.400 the rest were born by surrogate some women who were paid surrogate for the couple now say they were
00:02:57.280 unaware that the couple was accumulating a supersized family raising questions about their intentions
00:03:02.000 what were they going to do with these children ask the lawyer in san francisco so tom your thoughts
00:03:07.320 florida versus la madness well the florida attorney i'm sorry let me go to vinnie first go ahead okay
00:03:14.960 yeah um sorry tommy but um i i think and i'm pretty sure tom's gonna agree this should be a federal law
00:03:20.480 yesterday okay remember last week we talked about that gay couple that adopted the baby one of the
00:03:25.040 fathers was well brandon keith riley mitchell was convicted of child porn sexual abuse of a minor pay
00:03:31.120 attention to what he was in trouble for endangering the welfare of children and corruption of minors
00:03:35.520 okay and i did some research and guess what tom they still have that baby who who is a boy remind
00:03:41.680 you in their home okay which to me that's criminal negligence by the system the child isn't their blood
00:03:48.160 so that means there's zero natural protection we're talking about a predator think about this guys a
00:03:53.440 predator is alone with the baby he's changing him he's bathing him and he's tucking him in at night
00:03:59.680 all right and it's just one day the stranger is the stranger baby because it's a stranger is going to
00:04:05.840 grow up and become the same age as the people that this guy freaking abused and sexually assaulted okay
00:04:11.200 and we shouldn't be waiting for the headline of what went wrong we know what the hell is wrong it's
00:04:16.240 the system at this point is just as much to blame as a freaking predator what why is this even an issue
00:04:21.520 pat this should be not just a florida thing the whole freaking nation you should see how much flack i got
00:04:27.360 online people messaging me uh gay people like how dare you you're you're homophobic you're blah blah
00:04:34.240 blah bring that shit on no gay couple should have especially one that was in trouble for i'll say it
00:04:40.880 again let me let me say it one more time what was he in trouble for child porn sexual abuse of a minor
00:04:47.280 and endangering the welfare of children and you guys think that guy should have a freaking boy a baby in
00:04:52.160 his house we're kissing him and he's changing him get the hell out of here with that noise keep coming at
00:04:56.720 me go ahead tom there's there's laws in the united states when there is a live birth there has to be
00:05:01.520 a birth certificate and that birth certificate is your path to a social security number and path to
00:05:05.760 recognize citizenship so let's just look at the legal stuff and i'm just as emotional as you are
00:05:10.640 about the fact that there's uncorrected things going on out there with sexual predators when a surrogate
00:05:16.080 has a child the birth certificate first recognizes who is the legal individual that had that baby
00:05:23.600 this is the mom she can decline to state the father um or i don't know or i don't recall or
00:05:29.680 you know there's another bizarre things that she can say then they have to go to court and say it's
00:05:36.240 called the post-birth order where you go to court and you basically adopt the child on the birth
00:05:42.880 certificate and they say this is a surrogate adoption we're doing and they don't call it adoption it's
00:05:47.520 surrogacy and then the court order like florida's department of vital statistics has to under a
00:05:53.360 court order then change the names on the birth certificate so now that these are the legal parents
00:05:59.200 now there's something now the name of the surrogate is removed and sealed so that's how these kids that
00:06:05.200 grow up have to go through all this stuff to somehow find out who their birth mom was if they were so
00:06:10.560 interested so you have a process to review surrogates and it's a failure of the system
00:06:18.960 vinnie it's a failure of the system if you're on parole you can't buy a gun yes and if you go in and
00:06:25.040 you buy a gun because the background check you know miss something that's a failure of the system
00:06:31.200 likewise if you're a sexual predator with the florida attorney general saying hey in florida we're going
00:06:37.040 to check and double check and if you're a sexual predator when you go in to get the post-birth order
00:06:43.200 to adopt the child who's been born to the surrogate where you have the legal birth certificate because
00:06:48.000 you got to have that guess what we're going to put the hammer down and say no and i think the florida
00:06:54.480 attorney general is doing something very sensible meanwhile in california you can basically and who
00:07:01.760 knows what these people were doing you can accumulate an army of children through surrogacy
00:07:07.120 for for who knows what it could just be i want to have a lot of kids but there also could be other
00:07:12.160 things going on and apparently they couldn't watch after him because a nanny was abusing actually the
00:07:18.560 baby and the older child turned him in so i'm not to me i don't think anything uh weird is going on
00:07:26.080 here okay i think the chance of that being the case here is 10 or 20 i'm actually not going to
00:07:31.200 they did something but the fact that we have no federal laws for surrogacy and it's by state and
00:07:38.240 it allows for some person who wanted to abuse a child they can go to a state that's got lenient
00:07:44.160 surrogacy law so rob can you pull up which states in america have the most lenient surrogacy laws
00:07:50.160 which states and which states have the most which states have the most lenient and the most uh
00:07:54.000 what's the opposite of lenient strict lenient and strict surrogacy laws laws yeah let's see in
00:08:01.200 america in the united states yeah perfect i'm curious because to me that's more my concern
00:08:07.680 my concern is on what they did they could have been very innocent and it led to something else okay
00:08:12.000 most lenient states uh california a leader in surrogacy permits commercial surrogacy and routinely
00:08:17.520 grants pre-birth parentage okay colorado connecticut delaware dc new hampshire maryland oregon
00:08:22.640 washington illinois rhode island vermont all considered surrogacy michigan recently updated
00:08:27.920 its april 25 year printing transitioning from restrictive to progressive by legally recognized
00:08:32.480 in surrogacy arrangements as well as new york now most ambiguous restrictive or ambiguous are what
00:08:37.600 louisiana only allows uh altruistic uh just from surrogacy a married heterosexual couple using their own
00:08:44.400 um nebraska compensated surrogacy is not considered legal here making any paid arrangements effectively
00:08:51.200 unbanned and arizona surrogacy contracts are expressly prohibited through at least you know
00:08:57.760 where it goes to heterosexual couples okay fine i get that go a little bit lower is there anything else
00:09:04.800 strict as our louisiana nebraska arizona yeah i think the fact that we're bringing this up is to
00:09:09.440 bring awareness for people to be paying attention to it it's a very open if you're if you're somebody
00:09:14.480 that's dirty and you want to abuse the law you got a few states you can go to to handle that okay if
00:09:20.960 all of a sudden a gay couple wants to go get 10 kids is there limitations on that in some of these
00:09:27.520 states i don't know there's too many opportunities for abuse and just really really fast and i have to
00:09:33.120 say this again the brandon keith riley mitchell guy they still have that baby he is a convicted
00:09:39.760 freaking child abusing is he yes yes he he was convicted of rock you make fact check me brandon
00:09:50.000 keith riley mitchell was convicted of child porn sexual today so he so they was never let go and
00:09:55.920 he was never innocent he was convicted he was convicted am i right right he's a registered
00:10:00.000 sex offender registered sex offender and then pat how is that kid still in their house i mean that's
00:10:05.200 michigan oh my god like there's a name oh my god like i don't understand can i weigh in on this
00:10:10.640 adam go ahead sure well we're looking at exhibit a of why donald trump won the presidency um it's just
00:10:18.480 common sense at this point the reason that you're freaking out here is because there's cities and
00:10:22.720 states around the country who are not practicing common sense all trump had to do was expose the
00:10:28.480 crazy what trump did was say i prioritize uh citizens over illegal immigrants i know the difference
00:10:35.360 between a man and a woman i love america you hate america and i have morals and values that align with
00:10:42.480 the average american you know on uh bill maher this past weekend did you see who was on it was our friend
00:10:48.080 steven a smith and dr phil and they argued about whether uh the 10 commandments should be in school
00:10:56.880 and steven a smith and dr phil were on the uh on the side of yeah i i think there should be a little
00:11:03.760 introduction of morals and values and principles whereas bill maher who does not believe in god
00:11:10.320 was me saying why do we even need that the 10 commandments is all bs but that is leading to
00:11:15.440 the degradation of society now i believe in the separation of church and state to what extent though
00:11:20.560 judeo-christian values the 10 the 10 commandments is what this country was founded on right but we've
00:11:25.680 seen i don't know if you have that chart from the wall street journal that i sent you the decline in
00:11:29.520 all these values that america was basically founded on the decline of religion the decline of patriotism
00:11:35.600 which very much bothers me the decline of having children and then and community involvement americans
00:11:41.760 pull back from the values that wants to find us that's what's going on here so my prediction is
00:11:46.640 this pendulum will swing one direction into the other and it'll be 10 20 years before la and new york city
00:11:52.800 and some of these psychopathic woke agenda have to reckon with the reality and then i'm going to
00:11:57.600 the next story yeah the the question from pat was national laws and national precedent and when you
00:12:03.840 you know roe v wade that was a national law uh that was governing abortion and then alberg fell
00:12:10.240 versus hodges that was a national case in 2015 that gave that legalized same-sex marriage for all 50 states
00:12:18.400 and of course remember that was kennedy sotomayor kagan ginsburg and briar the liberal five at the
00:12:22.800 time that won't happen now but to pat's point if we're going to have roe v wade on a national level
00:12:28.240 and we're going to have agrafel versus hodges john roberts dissented although and that gives us um
00:12:34.080 same-sex marriage on national basis why shouldn't we have national laws governing you know uh surrogacy
00:12:41.120 for continuity's sake because you're talking about citizens you're talking about protecting those
00:12:44.960 citizens so i agree with pat there should be national laws and the precedent is there with
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