Valuetainment - January 17, 2026


＂Professional Agitators & Insurrections＂ - Trump THREATENS Minneapolis As ICE Protests RAGE


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Trump tweets that he will use the so-called Insurrection act in Minnesota if the governor and mayor don t comply with immigration law. What exactly does that mean and why should it be invoked? What would happen if Trump invoked the act in Minnesota?

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00:00:00.000 What could happen if Trump invokes the Insurrection Act in Minnesota?
00:00:05.980 Okay, so let's go through this.
00:00:07.720 Rob, I think you got a couple clips on this.
00:00:09.940 President Trump on Thursday tweeted this, or Truth Social this.
00:00:13.700 If the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the law
00:00:16.980 and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists
00:00:20.320 from attacking the patriots of ICE who are only trying to do their job,
00:00:25.300 I will institute the Insurrection Act,
00:00:27.580 which many presidents have done before me,
00:00:29.960 and quickly put an end to the travesty that is taking place in that once great state.
00:00:36.120 Thank you for your attention, Donald J. Trump.
00:00:39.460 Ann, how do you feel about this?
00:00:41.500 Of course he should do this,
00:00:43.360 and I don't even think he needs to invoke the Insurrection Act.
00:00:46.340 It's funny how the New York Times avoids talking about
00:00:48.960 the two most famous incidents of presidents sending troops
00:00:52.980 against the wishes of a state's governor,
00:00:55.820 Eisenhower sending them to Little Rock
00:00:57.900 because to walk nine black schoolchildren into the school.
00:01:02.160 Why? Because they were disobeying federal law.
00:01:04.580 It was a Supreme Court ruling.
00:01:06.400 You can't discriminate.
00:01:07.880 The governors, the mayors were saying,
00:01:10.300 we're going to keep discriminating.
00:01:12.060 And so Eisenhower sends, you know,
00:01:13.940 the 101st Airborne to walk these nine black.
00:01:17.040 And then JFK did the same thing in Alabama,
00:01:20.140 directly against the governor.
00:01:21.580 The governor called out his own national troops,
00:01:24.000 George Wallace, famous name.
00:01:25.800 That was to walk two students into University of Alabama.
00:01:29.760 So we have nine sad black students,
00:01:32.560 two sad black students,
00:01:34.900 and of course the Constitution and federal law being violated.
00:01:39.200 And they go down in history as heroes.
00:01:42.140 Minnesota is violating federal law.
00:01:45.620 Immigration law is federal.
00:01:47.620 The Supreme Court has held this one million times.
00:01:50.580 They did it, I'll just say briefly,
00:01:53.520 because it's recent.
00:01:55.080 I mean, I've been alive in America for more than two weeks.
00:01:58.060 When Arizona passed that,
00:01:59.880 what everybody called the Papers, Please law,
00:02:02.020 you'll remember that, oh, it's like Nazi Germany,
00:02:03.940 which was upheld by the Supreme Court,
00:02:05.700 at least that one provision.
00:02:06.900 The rest of the law was overturned.
00:02:09.000 All Arizona had said is,
00:02:11.120 we want to comply with the federal government.
00:02:13.980 We're going to help.
00:02:15.400 We aren't going to do anything
00:02:16.580 that federal immigration law doesn't say,
00:02:18.120 but we're going to help enforce federal immigration law.
00:02:21.200 Obama was president,
00:02:22.060 and he sued saying,
00:02:24.200 I don't want to enforce federal immigration law.
00:02:26.560 The Supreme Court says federal government wins.
00:02:29.400 So absolutely he has constitutional authority to do this.
00:02:32.720 And if you look at how the governor and the mayor are behaving,
00:02:35.000 I mean, just today,
00:02:35.660 I think the governor, Tim Waltz,
00:02:38.100 said Minnesota is an island.
00:02:41.560 Well, no, you're not an island from federal law.
00:02:44.260 Did he really say he's an island?
00:02:45.520 Yes.
00:02:46.620 I mean, that's like seceding from the union.
00:02:49.500 Of course he should send federal troops.
00:02:52.320 Wow.
00:02:52.620 Tom, your thoughts on this?
00:02:53.820 Well, you and I lived in Los Angeles at a time in 1992,
00:02:57.740 which was also a time that the Insurrection Act was,
00:03:01.360 under the riots, Rodney King.
00:03:04.360 And the city was being torn apart.
00:03:06.680 The police were overwhelmed.
00:03:08.640 And when the police are overwhelmed,
00:03:10.620 that's when the National Guard comes in.
00:03:12.740 This is when, look, a hurricane or an earthquake happens,
00:03:16.040 and our governors say,
00:03:17.320 hey, we have a disaster area.
00:03:19.020 I need you to declare me a disaster area
00:03:21.020 so that I can get federal funds.
00:03:22.660 And by the way, can you please send relief people,
00:03:26.220 troops, supplies, whatever it is?
00:03:28.400 And so we'll ignore the failure of Hurricane Katrina.
00:03:32.240 But in Los Angeles, we had Korean shopkeepers
00:03:35.060 that were on top trying to protect their own buildings.
00:03:38.640 And it was invoked at that time appropriately.
00:03:41.720 This is exactly when it should be invoked.
00:03:45.440 And it's interesting that everybody's clinging to the word insurrection in the media
00:03:49.920 because that was a word they clung to on January 6th
00:03:53.120 because they had to make it an insurrection
00:03:55.140 because an insurrection is the operative term that was in the Constitution
00:03:59.300 that they wanted to pin on, oh, you've created an insurrection, on Trump.
00:04:04.400 So when you look at this, I think not only is this appropriate,
00:04:07.900 it is not appropriate, it's urgent, it's obligatory.
00:04:12.340 It's not should Trump do it.
00:04:14.200 It's why is he waiting for any opinion to say,
00:04:16.600 this is out of control here, and I have to protect the people of the state
00:04:20.380 because it's the union.
00:04:22.740 It's one of the states of the union.
00:04:24.080 So I got to step in here.
00:04:25.600 I think he's late.
00:04:26.620 This should have happened the day after the incident happened with B. Good,
00:04:32.020 whatever, Rene Good with the pin wearing.
00:04:34.080 But can we just take a step back?
00:04:35.800 Martyr du jour is pronounced.
00:04:37.020 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:04:37.600 We're watching a state.
00:04:39.280 Look at the timeline.
00:04:41.020 A state that was just exposed for one of, if not the biggest,
00:04:45.400 fraud scandals in the history of the United States.
00:04:48.420 Scott Besson came out and said 10% of our money is going to fraud,
00:04:52.880 $600 billion a year.
00:04:55.120 And is it just a coincidence that all this stuff is happening here,
00:04:58.240 that they've energized these people?
00:05:00.860 By the way, this isn't happening organically.
00:05:03.220 You think these people with all the same signs, all the same movement,
00:05:07.120 Cash Patel came out yesterday and said,
00:05:08.820 if you think this is just organic, you're insane,
00:05:11.900 and they're going to go after all of them.
00:05:13.040 He said $600 billion?
00:05:13.940 $600 billion.
00:05:15.020 Rob, you have that clip?
00:05:15.820 $600 billion a year.
00:05:17.180 This is it right here.
00:05:19.600 Investigations.
00:05:20.080 And these men and women, they are cool cats.
00:05:27.180 They can take apart a balance sheet,
00:05:30.760 and they can knock down a door and arrest someone.
00:05:35.280 Like, they go out on patrols.
00:05:36.860 They can make arrests.
00:05:37.660 It's this very interesting hybrid force, about 2,500 of them,
00:05:42.820 and they led the charge here.
00:05:45.020 So it was IRS CIs who uncovered the initial fraud and the prosecutions.
00:05:51.780 So it's with that group, with other groups at IRS,
00:05:58.900 and with the powers of the Treasury to track where the money came from,
00:06:03.940 where it's going.
00:06:04.880 We saw this very unsettling news yesterday that many people involved here
00:06:12.560 with the administration of these programs have tried to go back
00:06:16.020 and recreate documents, change documents.
00:06:20.260 Rob, when does he say $600 billion?
00:06:22.020 We're not going to have that.
00:06:23.300 We are going to hold people accountable.
00:06:26.500 We're going to press this to the full extent possible.
00:06:32.140 And like I said, I think that this may just be, you know,
00:06:35.440 it's a cold day outside, so this could be the tip of the iceberg here in Minnesota.
00:06:40.340 But it probably may not be as prevalent,
00:06:44.060 but the dollars may be bigger and larger in other states.
00:06:47.420 And just to put this in perspective, for American taxpayers, for American families,
00:06:54.940 the GAO, the General Accounting Office,
00:06:57.300 believes that there is somewhere between $300 billion and $600 billion of annual fraud,
00:07:03.840 roughly 10% of government spending.
00:07:06.380 10%?
00:07:07.060 That disappears due to fraud.
00:07:09.160 If we can recapture that.
00:07:10.800 You can pause that right there.
00:07:11.800 How do you not track that, though?
00:07:13.060 How do you not track that and find out who it's going to?
00:07:16.960 Well, wasn't that Doge?
00:07:18.220 Intentionally.
00:07:18.980 And wasn't Doge's job supposed to go in, find all this situation,
00:07:22.900 and just really quick, Pat, if you, because this is where I'm coming from,
00:07:26.340 is it, I'm putting two to two together.
00:07:29.140 They just got exposed, so instead of going, yeah, guys, this is face of fire,
00:07:33.580 they take this moment, because they were pushing it.
00:07:36.500 Tim Walz is like, the Gestapo, this.
00:07:38.640 This is one of those moments, like in House of Cards,
00:07:40.800 where they sit there and they wait for a moment to happen,
00:07:42.820 and they capitalize.
00:07:44.020 This is their moment.
00:07:45.120 Now it's, hey, don't worry about the fraud.
00:07:47.400 It's Trump is a Nazi.
00:07:48.880 These people are Gestapo.
00:07:50.140 And I just hope that, I know Kash Patel said he's going to be looking into it.
00:07:53.700 Like I said last week, I don't care about basketball gambling.
00:07:56.820 That's a whole different situation.
00:07:58.840 This is six, this is hundreds of billions of dollars a year.
00:08:02.560 This is what we care about.
00:08:03.920 And this is all a show to distract everybody from what the real problem is,
00:08:08.060 and that's the problem.
00:08:09.020 They've imported all these people.
00:08:11.120 They're not working, Pat.
00:08:13.140 They're sitting there and they're scamming us,
00:08:14.480 and nobody's going to care about it?
00:08:15.780 I'm sorry.
00:08:16.460 It's a loop.
00:08:17.380 And the loop we saw are Ukraine.
00:08:19.300 Ukraine gets a bunch of money, but a lot of it's allocated for defense.
00:08:22.800 It comes right back to General Dynamics and Boeing and Northropa.
00:08:25.480 Money laundering.
00:08:26.340 And all of them comes back.
00:08:27.640 They then send equipment to Ukraine.
00:08:29.940 Now they have these billions of dollars.
00:08:31.340 They say thank you through a lobbyist.
00:08:33.240 They say thank you through a PAC.
00:08:34.440 And now the money that Senator Blowhard voted to send to Ukraine has made a loop back,
00:08:40.480 and Senator Blowhard has got PAC money and campaign money back in.
00:08:44.240 And it is an internal cycle, and that's how they keep stasis.
00:08:48.480 That is their stability, these cycles.
00:08:50.880 And now all they've done in Minnesota is it wasn't a foreign war.
00:08:57.180 It was a systemic fraud loop that they created.
00:09:00.980 Except now the unintended consequence, which the creators or the intentional closed eyes created,
00:09:10.200 was money went to al-Shabaab, and then some of that money came back.
00:09:13.780 So all of a sudden, in closed rooms, you've got to believe that Walls and others in closed rooms is like, crap.
00:09:21.580 Well, let me do this before I come to you, Adam.
00:09:23.260 I want you to see this.
00:09:24.560 Watch this U.S. rep from Minnesota, Angie Cray.
00:09:27.760 Look what she says here, and tell me if this is helping out.
00:09:30.180 Go ahead, Rob.
00:09:31.020 Yes or no, do you think Congress should shut down the government over ICE and DHS funding to make a statement?
00:09:39.240 Look, I'm not in the room with leadership, but what I can tell you, what is happening in America,
00:09:49.300 the path that we are traveling certainly reminds me of many of the images that we saw in the 1930s in Germany.
00:09:59.460 And we should stand up to this lawless administration.
00:10:04.340 And right now, nothing should be off the table.
00:10:05.960 You should be able to say something like that and get away with it, right?
00:10:07.660 That's what I'm saying.
00:10:08.180 Adam, your thoughts.
00:10:09.280 Oh, my God.
00:10:09.660 I miss the part in Germany where foreigners created fraud.
00:10:13.360 I miss that part.
00:10:14.720 There was an extermination that was going on.
00:10:17.480 First the criminals, then the gypsies, then the people in asylums, and then later the horror of the Holocaust.
00:10:23.320 So I miss the part in Germany where there is a fraud loop.
00:10:26.900 Adam.
00:10:27.140 So ridiculous.
00:10:27.780 Well, this whole shenanigans comes down to one word for me, and that's midterms.
00:10:33.500 So we're in a perpetual election cycle in this country.
00:10:36.120 And as Tom has always pointed out, they're looking for their next George Floyd.
00:10:39.840 And guess what?
00:10:40.840 They found her.
00:10:41.560 And her name is Renee Good.
00:10:43.440 So, by the way, the heroes of the left are a little bit different than the heroes of the right.
00:10:48.640 Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk.
00:10:50.040 Absolute hero.
00:10:51.200 The heroes of the left are George Floyd, drug addict, wife beater, woman beater, and this woman who's a weaponized agent against ICE.
00:11:00.980 So, to me, the bigger story here is there may be a kernel of truth in all this.
00:11:06.880 But then you have what I would call people just looking to act a fool.
00:11:11.020 So if you remember after Rodney King, 1992, okay, that guy got his ass whipped by the police.
00:11:16.300 We get it.
00:11:17.160 But now people in L.A. want to burn down their entire city as retribution.
00:11:21.720 And I remember after Katrina, they started looting.
00:11:26.080 And then the great Greg Giraldo, the comedian, goes, no, I understand you want to get some stuff, but you need a TV and some beer in the middle of a hurricane?
00:11:33.800 Like, that seems a little inappropriate.
00:11:36.320 And then the whole conversation about what the BLM riots did in Minnesota, you know, callback.
00:11:42.560 The ironic thing, shout out to Alanis Morissette, is Donald Trump was accused of doing an insurrection.
00:11:48.720 Look at what's happening in all these cities.
00:11:50.300 Last point, just to my friends on the left, on the right, enough with the Holocaust stuff.
00:11:57.360 I was actually with a Holocaust survivor, 95-year-old woman.
00:12:02.440 I mean, and she's an amazing woman.
00:12:04.660 She's the grandmother of my good friend Jeremy.
00:12:07.560 And I said, hey, you know, they're saying a lot of things are akin to the Holocaust these days.
00:12:14.720 You know, this thing in ICE.
00:12:15.980 And she goes, oh, yes.
00:12:19.020 Well, I was one of eight children.
00:12:23.140 All my other siblings were murdered.
00:12:25.780 My entire family was put into Auschwitz concentration camp.
00:12:32.980 My aunts, my uncles, grandparents, they're all dead.
00:12:36.860 So, please forgive me if ICE protests not Nazi Germany.
00:12:42.800 I'm sorry.
00:12:43.360 Like, thank you for having some sort of rationale here.
00:12:48.160 There's a big difference between protesting and, God forbid, something get injured or killed, whatever,
00:12:54.300 versus the intentional genocide of an entire population.
00:12:58.020 Well, but that's a great argument point you're making.
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00:13:08.940 Thank you, Pat.
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