Valuetainment - April 10, 2026


“Public Execution Is NOT Enough” - Athena Strand Killer BLAMES Voices For Her Murder


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A FedEx driver who abducted a 7-year-old girl and drove her to her death was given the sentence of life in prison. Tanner Horner claims he heard a voice in his head telling him to kill Athena Strand.

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00:00:42.220 This guy who in North Texas, Rob, if you want to play this clip,
00:00:47.780 this guy I have zero tolerance for in North Texas who is delivering a Barbie doll.
00:00:56.960 He's an independent contractor for FedEx.
00:00:59.640 He's a driver.
00:01:01.040 While he's delivering this Barbie doll to the 7-year-old,
00:01:04.820 he asked the kid to come, and this is November of 2022,
00:01:08.500 if I'm not mistaken with the dates.
00:01:10.280 She comes in the truck, and then nobody knows what happens.
00:01:15.120 The kid disappears.
00:01:16.740 Everyone's trying to find out what happens.
00:01:18.340 He apparently covers the camera, okay?
00:01:21.320 So nobody will see what he ends up doing to her.
00:01:25.340 And now in court this week, while they had the court,
00:01:28.380 during court they played the audio it's not public we don't have it but they're showing
00:01:34.700 voice how the kid was fighting him fighting for her life and he ends up killing her okay he ends
00:01:45.040 up killing her the seven-year-old kid that he was delivering a barbie to he ends up killing her
00:01:49.520 then while he's going through and he says i cannot believe what does he say i will not be able to see
00:01:55.000 He said, I'm not going to be able to see.
00:01:56.760 I can't believe this.
00:01:57.740 I'm going to miss Christmases with my children and all that.
00:02:00.720 He's trying to make them feel bad for him because he's not going to be able to see his kids ever again.
00:02:05.060 And then his claim is he heard what?
00:02:06.340 He heard a voice in his head named Zero that told him to do all these things and told him to kill her.
00:02:12.020 A voice named Zero.
00:02:13.440 Now, if you guys haven't seen Primal Fear, you guys know if you're friends with me, you're going to watch Primal Fear with me.
00:02:18.620 If you've seen Primal Fear with Edward Norton, what is the story of Primal Fear about with Richard Gere and Edward Norton?
00:02:24.280 He kills this priest because, you know, all this abuse and all this stuff.
00:02:27.860 Born and all this stuff.
00:02:28.420 And then he acts like he's, like, crazy and he has multiple personality syndrome.
00:02:32.740 Or what is it, Tom, where you switch?
00:02:34.860 Is it?
00:02:35.500 Very at the end where he asks him, well, then how did you know
00:02:38.680 and how did you remember?
00:02:40.300 And he starts clapping.
00:02:41.300 Ed Norton stops and he goes, that one was for you.
00:02:44.560 That was a work of art.
00:02:45.880 He acted like he had, like, a snap and he played it beautifully.
00:02:49.860 And we're supposed to believe that, you know, this person deserves dignity.
00:02:54.840 This person deserves, you know, dignity for what he did.
00:02:57.300 The FedEx driver who abducted a 7-year-old girl driving her to death
00:03:00.440 complains about how bad life is if he goes to prison.
00:03:02.940 Tanner Horner abducted and killed Athena Strand
00:03:06.180 while delivering a Barbie to her home in North Texas
00:03:08.420 in newly released footage.
00:03:10.300 Horner could be heard whining to police
00:03:12.000 about how he won't be able to watch his sons grow up.
00:03:14.880 Horner was heard accusing a voice in his mind named Zero
00:03:17.940 of making him kill her.
00:03:18.900 I'm going to miss out on all my sons' Christmases, birthdays,
00:03:21.300 growing up, and I'm going to miss out on everything,
00:03:23.460 all because I listened to the stupid voice that isn't probably even there.
00:03:27.980 Do you want to play this audio real quick on what he's saying to the cops?
00:03:30.760 Go for it.
00:03:32.220 I'm going to miss out on the first part of my job.
00:03:35.900 Okay, I can't.
00:03:41.880 Well, I don't know what I would say to that.
00:03:46.660 I mean, this is one of those probation things.
00:03:50.580 This is one of those, I'm going away for a long time and things.
00:03:56.320 I don't think I'm going to miss out on all of my son's life.
00:03:58.900 That's how life works.
00:04:00.820 Yeah.
00:04:02.800 You're going to miss out on that.
00:04:04.460 The parents of Athena are never going to see her.
00:04:07.220 I'll tell you this, Tanner.
00:04:12.040 You're going to be okay.
00:04:14.260 No, I'm not.
00:04:15.700 Why do you think that?
00:04:16.800 can you go to the other one rob that the reports of what was said
00:04:28.100 in court when the lawyer yeah prosecutor yeah is this it or is it the other one show more yep
00:04:36.240 show more rob going to show more top yeah right there we have dna not only do we have initial
00:04:41.500 dna from athena that has tanner's horners we also have tanner horners dna in places where you
00:04:45.440 shouldn't find dna on a seven-year-old girl okay so here's a question what should happen
00:04:52.540 to tanner horner honestly what state is he in north texas what should happen to tanner horner
00:05:00.520 you already know what should happen to him we need deterrence and i and that needs to be severe
00:05:06.400 you know you need your day in court we don't arrest people on day one and take them out back
00:05:11.900 and just execute them against a brick wall.
00:05:14.160 But once they have their day in court and it's all things like this,
00:05:18.280 and he's confessing to it, there needs to be deterrence.
00:05:21.320 There needs to be absolute deterrence.
00:05:23.300 And I studied what Chuck Colson, who is a Watergate co-conspirator who did time
00:05:29.340 and came in and then did his life trying to serve in the prison system, Pat.
00:05:33.380 And what he said was there was no longer deterrence.
00:05:36.140 And the recidivation rate was because prison had become crime college.
00:05:40.140 We need deterrence.
00:05:41.040 And back in like 1980, there was a movie called Scared Straight. 0.85
00:05:45.360 And it wasn't like straight gay. 0.61
00:05:46.820 It was scared straight, like to the straight path and not to be committing crime. 0.68
00:05:50.200 And it scared the hell out of young men of all colors of the realities of what was going on inside prisons.
00:05:56.420 And so there, what you found was deterrence because people were scared to death of the consequence.
00:06:03.120 People are no longer scared to death of the consequence.
00:06:05.320 Liberals will commute your sentences and get things.
00:06:07.980 there needs to be deterrence and there needs to be a rough outcome here we're not barbaric but
00:06:14.520 there can be absolutely rough outcomes that cause people to think twice about it patrick you know
00:06:21.780 at the beginning you said what do you do with people who don't have a fear of death or who
00:06:25.320 don't have a fear of god well the example you make out of them is not for them because they can't be
00:06:29.600 cured and they can't be redeemed it's for others and so you know i'm not going back public hanging
00:06:34.880 I mean, people would say it has to be public, it has to be visceral, it has to be shocking to anybody else out there who would ever even dream of doing something so dark and sinister.
00:06:43.940 I don't think we're going to get there.
00:06:45.700 Life and, you know, just throw away the key or swift execution would be one thing.
00:06:49.260 In this particular case, though, one of the attenuating details, because we're going to compare it to the North Carolina one, is whether or not this guy's actually crazy.
00:06:55.780 By what I understood from the case, he accidentally struck the girl, and then it sounds like he panicked after he hit her with the vehicle, then put her in the vehicle.
00:07:02.460 and you can now sort of understand what this guy's thinking is like i hit this girl with my car i'm
00:07:06.520 going to lose my job i'm going to ruin my kids christmas and so then in that moment not not not
00:07:10.920 a history of schizophrenia the guy says reacting like a dumb criminal i'm going to kill this girl 0.90
00:07:16.120 this is how i'm going to hide my accident keep my job not you know ruin my kids christmas and
00:07:19.720 murder a seven-year-old girl to cover up for my initial crime i mean that's how i would frame this
00:07:23.120 and then he talks about a voice in his head you're a lawyer no no i mean but then you know then he
00:07:26.660 makes up a voice in his head well if i plead insanity if i look crazy then maybe i'll get a
00:07:29.920 can you back up into your framing and just take me to and we found dna in places on a seven-year-old
00:07:36.540 girl where you shouldn't find dna that i don't you know it's not panic because i hit her with
00:07:40.680 the truck right this is this is i mean it's there's no attenuating it's just to say that
00:07:44.980 this guy's not what is the recording that they played in court the recording played in court 0.56
00:07:49.480 is he tries covering up the camera but like an idiot doesn't realize that you're gonna still
00:07:55.480 get audio and she's fighting for her life and he's records him strangling her and doing whatever to 0.74
00:08:02.740 her and what drives me crazy is that the parents who are in the courtroom besides everybody else
00:08:09.420 these are all prosecutors defend all the jury the mother and father have to hear the final moments
00:08:16.360 because they have to hear it they're in court of their seven-year-old daughter getting potentially
00:08:22.080 the r-word and murdered and that's that audio is going to stick with them forever pat think
00:08:28.700 think put i know it's stories put yourself there the hardest call i've ever had to make
00:08:33.620 was calling my mother my cousin called me and said hey my father passed away a lot of details
00:08:39.280 can you call and tell your mom me call i've never been so scared to make that phone call
00:08:43.960 and pat to hear my mom like i i felt it the moment was coming and i say mom are you okay
00:08:49.200 you sitting down and when I told her I heard a part of her soul die die I heard I heard like
00:08:55.920 I felt her soul a part of it die so I can imagine what the parents are hearing Pat and you guys know
00:09:02.360 we always talk about this uh Tom what uh in the Bible Matthew chapter 18 verse 6 says if anyone
00:09:09.400 causes any of these little ones who believe in me to stumble it's better for them to have a millstone
00:09:15.360 hung around their neck and drowned into the deepest parts of the ocean okay there's a
00:09:20.260 difference between law and you know god you know what god's supposed to do what he's supposed to
00:09:24.800 do pat he doesn't deserve to live okay i have to pray for him adam this is the hardest part we
00:09:30.760 always talk about i vincent o'shana have to pray for him the parents god bless them have to pray
00:09:37.180 for this guy's soul because he better come to christ adam because guess what if it's if he
00:09:43.240 doesn't truly do it he's going to be in a horrible horrible place for eternity and that's that that's
00:09:49.400 that's the truth he'll be that he'll be there anyhow but well there's no there's no redemption
00:09:54.600 for certain things you know when the last use of the guillotine was in france what year how recently
00:09:59.480 would you think it was 74 77 not bad the um when you have an admission when you know when you have
00:10:09.440 an admission and you and you and you know there's no clear defense of mental insanity you have a
00:10:15.360 trial and then there should be some form of public execution period the the the defense of criminal
00:10:21.660 you know lack of criminal insanity which we're going to get to in the north carolina prison
00:10:24.820 locked away for life period you want to be institutionalized that's fine if you're not
00:10:28.520 criminally responsible this death penalty and and you know why i think the public doing it publicly
00:10:33.960 bro for people to see it like when you see pedophiles you just hear okay they're going to
00:10:38.460 go to jail hopefully the prisoners pat do something you do it publicly you show everybody hit like in 0.51
00:10:43.760 the middle east you steal there's places they'll chop your hand off bro theft in the middle east
00:10:49.100 is the lowest anywhere because they chop your hand off people just hear the story of all the
00:10:55.440 guys in prison hopefully they kill them in prison because there's no brother these guys in prison
00:10:59.040 are all murderers or killers or thieves their moral code stops right there where they go if
00:11:04.340 you harm the child we're going to find you and we're going to kill you and we don't care about
00:11:08.360 our consequence that should tell you everything i think that he makes a good point you have to 0.54
00:11:12.840 show the public because let's just say he gets does texas have a electric chair capital punishment
00:11:17.100 nobody sees it it's in a room they give him nice and he goes away peacefully and that's how he goes
00:11:23.680 i think you show that to people pat you pump fear in people's hearts because that's the only way
00:11:29.280 you're going to let them know you harm a freaking seven-year-old child like this bro it's going to
00:11:34.380 be bad for you and everybody's gonna see it yeah well you're bringing up the the christian thing
00:11:39.580 versus the middle east the muslim thing christians god bless you guys you are so nice the fact that
00:11:45.000 you're able to pray for someone like this or the fact that you guys think that this guy somehow
00:11:49.320 if he accepts jesus god god bless is gonna end up in heaven he murdered and allegedly raped a
00:11:57.620 seven-year-old girl that to me i have a really hard time grappling with respect to everyone's
00:12:04.360 religious beliefs. This person needs to be held to the highest extent of the law. I mean, public
00:12:10.420 execution would not be severe enough. This is disgusting. The, you know, what is it? Hammurabi's
00:12:16.380 Code, eye for an eye. Everything about this person needs to be plucked out. We need to be way harder 0.99
00:12:22.900 in this country on hardcore criminals and treat, you know, light criminals, smoking weed, doing
00:12:29.240 those things way easier i do agree that the middle east is a lot safer because basically if you look
00:12:35.400 the wrong way they'll cut off your eye that's a little extreme to me i remember when people were
00:12:39.560 like the school shooters with everything that happened remember the thing in the michigan
00:12:43.520 where i said some these families need to be held accountable if your kid takes the family gun and
00:12:48.880 goes out and kills a bunch of kids i want the parents in jail people said you can't be held
00:12:53.240 accountable for something your kids do then what happened remember exactly what happened did it 0.54
00:12:57.480 Michigan did it.
00:12:58.820 So I'm not saying I don't know what's going to happen with this guy and this family.
00:13:01.520 I think we need to make crazy examples of these people.
00:13:05.760 Public executions.
00:13:07.160 What do you call it?
00:13:07.760 The guillotine.
00:13:08.860 Whatever we have to do.
00:13:10.460 The sickness is part of our society and it needs to be rooted out to the extreme.
00:13:15.640 You have to make that example.
00:13:17.020 I mean, you're talking about castration.
00:13:19.120 You're talking about give 30 minutes in a room handcuffed with the father to get that moment with you.
00:13:24.200 You're talking about, I'm talking about in any way for the next person to sit there and
00:13:28.940 say, I don't ever want this.
00:13:30.520 You have to humiliate this guy in front of his kids.
00:13:34.280 You have to humiliate this guy in front of his kids where he realizes, oh my God, like
00:13:39.140 what is, if he's saying he's going to miss his kids Christmas, you have to, so the next
00:13:43.220 father's like, there's no way in the world I want to get this level of humiliation in
00:13:47.200 front of my kids.
00:13:47.780 This is disgusting when you hear stories like this.
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