Valuetainment - ＂Rank Your Biggest Threats＂ - Ex-CIA Officers Clash Over China, Israel & Islam

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00:00:27.400 What is your portfolio of paranoia, okay?

00:00:33.780 And which countries are you most paranoid to?

00:00:36.380 Let me explain what I mean by this, and then I want you to write down your portfolio of paranoia.

00:00:40.180 So think about if you have a million dollars to invest, you'll say, I'll put $250,000 in gold, $250,000 in Bitcoin, $100,000 in small cap funds, $400,000 in large cap, whatever.

00:00:52.880 The same way you diversify.

00:00:54.940 Both of you were in the CIA.

00:00:56.240 I'm going to give you four countries to be paranoid about.

00:01:00.460 Which of them would you give me the biggest percentage all the way to the smallest?

00:01:04.100 So think about it.

00:01:05.420 You have a round, like literally it's going to look like a pie chart.

00:01:09.160 And then you put the names in there, okay?

00:01:11.420 So you have these four categories.

00:01:13.140 You have Islam. 0.97

00:01:14.440 So within Islam, we have IRGC, Qatar, just include all of them. 0.53

00:01:18.440 We have Israel because, you know, Israel is also coming up a lot of different places.

00:01:22.620 Then we have China and we have Russia.

00:01:25.800 Where does your paranoia lie the most for the next 10 years 0.98

00:01:29.180 with these four different countries as well as Islam? 1.00

00:01:32.500 I'll give you a minute to draw it up.

00:01:35.200 Is it jumping up on here for us?

00:01:37.620 You see?

00:01:37.800 Oh, I see.

00:01:38.180 I got it.

00:01:38.440 There you go.

00:01:39.500 Okay, so we just rank him in order. 0.96

00:01:40.960 Just rank him in order and give like 45% would be Islam, 0.90

00:01:44.460 you know, 25% would be this.

00:01:54.820 all right china islam china islam israel uh and uh russia

00:02:01.020 where should we be most paranoid about

00:02:06.420 maybe you're going to be like 25 25 25 kind of a boring portfolio

00:02:13.120 maybe you're going to go 90 and one and fully paranoid you know maybe it's a you know 40 40

00:02:22.240 10 10 i don't want to mess with you you pick and choose do you have yours yeah all right let me see

00:02:27.140 what you have on your side okay really interesting let me see yours okay would you mind showing to

00:02:37.440 the audience so they know and then i give your answer you can start off first yeah so china

00:02:41.920 takes the massive chunk of pie for me and now we're talking about paranoia not money 0.73

00:02:48.140 Purely paranoia.

00:02:49.000 We'll get to money as well.

00:02:49.960 Purely paranoia.

00:02:50.860 China takes it.

00:02:51.800 China is the number one strategic threat to the United States.

00:02:54.640 What did you put on China? 0.71

00:02:55.880 50%.

00:02:56.280 Okay.

00:02:57.460 It's the number one strategic threat to the West.

00:03:00.000 It is the thing that will end democracy everywhere in the world. 1.00

00:03:03.960 Islam, I gave 5%. 1.00

00:03:05.380 I'm not worried about Islam. 0.85

00:03:07.200 There are other countries that need to worry about Islam, but we're not one of them. 0.97

00:03:09.960 Russia I gave 20% mainly because of 1.00

00:03:12.380 the threat that it kind of constantly 1.00

00:03:14.140 sends to Europe and how

00:03:18.340 dependent Europe is on us and then 0.83

00:03:20.320 Israel I gave 25% so I am actually saying 0.98

00:03:22.360 we should be more paranoid of Israel than 1.00

00:03:24.060 Russia and Islam five times 1.00

00:03:26.400 Islam five times I actually love that 1.00

00:03:28.340 because hers is different go for it 1.00

00:03:29.920 same reason for China 1.00

00:03:32.360 obviously they want a 0.88

00:03:33.820 world that we

00:03:35.940 are one of their subjects in

00:03:38.140 not really equal partners

00:03:39.880 So that's 40 percent. Islam, 30 percent, because I think we've seen the greatest kind of successes of terrorists in the last few years after the fall of Afghanistan, the fall of Syria, potentially soon the fall of Mogadishu, and then obviously likely we'll have the fall of Mali. 0.99

00:03:57.440 So they're starting to feel, hey, the caliphate's coming back. 0.94

00:04:00.880 You know, they're aligned with Qatar and Turkey on that plan.

00:04:05.720 So very, very dangerous besides bin Laden's four sons planning an attack here. 0.93

00:04:10.440 Russia, 30 percent, because Russia's always playing the game, 0.93

00:04:13.200 and Russia will play with any enemy we have, and they don't care. 0.96

00:04:17.100 They play dirty, and we can never underestimate them. 0.97

00:04:20.740 Israel, I don't lose any sleep above Israel. 1.00

00:04:22.640 They're the tiniest country in the world, 1.00

00:04:24.000 and if they ever became a problem we could bomb them to oblivion in five minutes so i don't know

00:04:28.740 why anyone loses sleep over them um but those are my numbers i actually love that so let's do this

00:04:33.620 since china and russia you guys both agree on 50 and 40 let's cross that one out because 10 percent

00:04:39.800 within 10 percent and since russia you're within the same which is 20 to 30 within 10 percent we'll

00:04:45.640 cross that one out let's start off with islam first and then we'll go to israel why did you put

00:04:49.760 islam the lowest out of all of them at five percent and then you at 30 but you go first i don't see 0.92

00:04:54.480 islam i don't see islam as a threat to the united states and that's what i was seeing it as paranoid 0.95

00:04:58.440 to me right what am i paranoid it's not islam islam is so it's it's difficult for them to reach 0.99

00:05:03.940 us with any significance when they reach us it's difficult for them to bypass our security systems 1.00

00:05:09.520 whether they're cyber security systems police systems border security systems etc they pose

00:05:13.700 a real threat to our allies who are much less sophisticated in their development in their

00:05:18.380 defense and national security sector, but not to us. Meanwhile, Israel actually has the ability to 0.87

00:05:25.280 drag us into all sorts of shit that actually does impact us. We are all paying more money for oil 0.99

00:05:32.080 right now because of Israel. We are all suffering under an international outcry against American

00:05:39.080 leadership because of Israel. The whole world questions whether or not the president of the

00:05:42.720 united states is even making his own decisions or whether he's the puppet of israel so so israel 0.95

00:05:48.660 has an incredible ability to to frustrate and uh and put us in quagmire that islam just doesn't 0.92

00:05:55.900 have okay so what's the worst thing that israel could do to us go a little further so because 0.98

00:06:00.480 you put 25 that's a real threat you put a bigot in russia and islam so what are some things that

00:06:05.700 could do to us so i i'm not worried about israel sending a bomb into new york if that's what you're

00:06:13.140 worried about we're worried about different things israel israel could easily launch a false flag

00:06:18.640 operation that sends us into a war they can have an israeli who poses as a palestinian who goes in 0.93

00:06:26.240 and causes some kind of crazy shit in syria and now all of a sudden the entire united states is 0.52

00:06:30.300 engaged in syria because of something that israel set up as a false flag and that is something that 0.93

00:06:34.220 Mossad does all the time. They do it very well, very eloquently. They already selectively share 0.99

00:06:40.240 intelligence with the United States. And the reason you selectively share intelligence is

00:06:44.900 to create the opportunity for misdirection or malintent. So Israel's already involved in these 0.92

00:06:51.580 kinds of operations at a very high success rate. That's what I'm concerned about. I'm concerned 0.85

00:06:56.360 about them backstabbing the United States. I'm concerned about them undermining our national

00:07:01.580 interest. I'm concerned about them choosing, like they did with Iran, to escalate rhetoric 0.70

00:07:07.300 about a certain issue that's more important to them than it is to us that then goes on to affect

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00:07:44.420 then the infiltration of islam some say to eu and what's happening to a lot of those countries uk

00:07:49.880 you know germany you're seeing it all over the place and to the point where documentary i mean

00:07:55.860 And Rupert Lowe did a paper, the 250,000 stories of girls being raped in UK, 87% being Pakistanis

00:08:05.360 and Muslims, and then seeing what's going on in the U.S. right now with New York City,

00:08:09.280 Mamdani wins, his three individuals that also won. 0.53

00:08:12.420 So that's not going into the financial capital of the world in the States.

00:08:16.160 Do you have any concern of they're infiltrating the United States in the future?

00:08:19.460 So this is another thing I think is very interesting, right? 0.95

00:08:22.420 Islam is the only thing on this list that's not a nation state.

00:08:25.500 It is.

00:08:25.860 it's a religion that's right i'm not worried about a religion i'm worried about people

00:08:30.900 and people identify sometimes as a religion but it's interesting to me that we're actually

00:08:36.540 weighing nation-state threats against religious threats so when we talk about islamic people

00:08:42.360 in new york i don't see them as a threat just because of what they believe that goes against

00:08:47.640 american values i see threats as nation states and transnational threats that self-identify

00:08:54.340 self-identified like al-qaeda right so i don't see islam and islamic people and if you but if

00:09:00.660 you notice i put it as consider it being irgc which is all the proxies and consider qatar which

00:09:06.440 qatar is funding a lot of different things in the states if we were to qualify that way would

00:09:11.120 your opinion change uh possibly i think it would change in how the number breaks down based on what 0.93

00:09:18.860 we qualify but i say all that because islam and islamic extremism poses a larger threat to our

00:09:26.420 allies than it does to us we might be the ultimate target but they've got multiple lily pads they 1.00

00:09:32.180 have to hop through before they get to us got it so you're not worried about it right now 1.00

00:09:35.600 okay sarah how about yourself so the way i look at it and we're talking about islamists there's

00:09:40.600 two pieces of it right there's the islamists with the gun and then the political islamists 0.92

00:09:45.640 and they're both a threat. 0.99

00:09:47.060 So the Islamists with a gun, 0.99

00:09:48.980 a bunch of them came over the border 0.99

00:09:50.480 in the last four years.

00:09:51.940 So according to the National Counterterrorism Center,

00:09:54.620 18,000 known Islamist terrorists are here illegally.

00:09:59.280 So that's just the ones illegally. 0.93

00:10:01.660 Why are you coming to the United States

00:10:03.680 if you're a member of ISIS?

00:10:04.720 You're not coming here to raise a family.

00:10:06.200 You're coming here to harm the United States.

00:10:08.780 On the other side, 1.00

00:10:09.520 when we talk about the Muslim Brotherhood,

00:10:11.700 they are working in local communities,

00:10:14.000 not just in Europe,

00:10:14.720 But in here, working at like the Chamber of Commerce level, working in business associations, and they are doing influence operations.

00:10:24.440 We all know they've been doing it in our universities for years, like China, and they do have an intent to merge the two, right?

00:10:33.420 There'll be attacks and there are hopes to get kind of more of a leaning towards where people will be more understanding of a caliphate.

00:10:42.840 Now, when anyone looks at the caliphate plan, U.S. being taken over is so far ahead of it, even the terrorists, that's like 50 years out.

00:10:51.820 But when they talk about bringing back a caliphate, a lot of people view that as, oh, that's like eons ago. 0.56

00:10:57.440 But the Ottoman Empire ended in our grandparents' generation, right?

00:11:01.460 So the terrorists aren't believing in some idea that was thousands of years ago.

00:11:06.140 They were believing in something from like the 1940s.

00:11:08.580 And they're seeing it come back into play and the power of it.

00:11:13.020 I mean, the Taliban is getting recognized.

00:11:15.960 I mean, al-Qaeda is running Syria, et cetera. 0.85

00:11:19.300 Qatar is always at the table.

00:11:21.540 So they're seeing we're making this power move, and it really is bringing them back around, 1.00

00:11:28.960 and they're getting into a phase where they feel they have momentum, and that's what makes

00:11:33.320 them dangerous because they feel strong, and they think we're weak.

00:11:36.600 A lot of people say, oh, Iran feels like they're up against the ropes now.

00:11:40.200 They don't feel that way at all.

00:11:41.640 They feel they're going to walk away with a victory.

00:11:43.820 It doesn't matter if we killed 200 people or 250 people or a bomb.

00:11:47.360 They think at the end of the deal, they're going to sell it as a victory. 0.98

00:11:51.100 And all these Islamists are preparing for that. 0.99

00:11:54.120 So it is a game that they play in the way they view the world. 1.00

00:11:58.860 It's not the way we view the world, but they think they're winning.

00:12:02.040 And that's a threat. 0.95

00:12:02.840 Let me ask you, did a part of your career as a CIA target or working in Iran, because you said part of it was you were dealing with Iran, right?

00:12:10.400 Did that kind of influence your decision to score that that high?

00:12:13.600 Well, not exactly.

00:12:14.860 So I did work the external operations of 400 and 900.

00:12:18.640 Now I work unit 840 in my free time. 0.96

00:12:22.540 My decision is based on the fact that bin Laden's sons have a plan kind of bigger than 9-11. 0.86

00:12:28.380 And I saw the costs imposed on us by 9-11. 0.92

00:12:33.320 And that was only by, you know, a small number of guys.

00:12:36.700 And this attack's a lot bigger. 0.88

00:12:37.880 And so I know what al-Qaeda is going to drag us into. 0.92

00:12:41.900 And that's what makes me concerned.

00:12:43.860 Even when we went into Iraq, then al-Qaeda came in and flooded. 0.72

00:12:48.080 And that's what kept it going, right? 0.98

00:12:49.560 They kept it going in Afghanistan.

00:12:52.700 So I'm worried that the terrorists is who's going to pull us into anything. 0.91

00:12:57.060 I'm not worried about Israel.

00:12:58.000 al-Qaeda and ISIS can attack all day long they have the capabilities they have the bodies they

00:13:03.780 have the training and that's where we waste all of our money is on the operations against terrorists 0.78

00:13:10.100 and we're going to go through a whole nother 20 30 years of it you know I believe after this

00:13:15.600 attack by bin Laden's sons okay so do you have any speculation of what bin Laden's sons could

00:13:20.500 possibly do if they were to attack how would they do it yeah well I know pieces of the plot so how

00:13:25.900 the plot is it's going to how they planned it remember anything's aspirational with terrorists

00:13:32.140 you can throw it tomorrow in this all fails the way they plot it is we're going to bring past 0.61

00:13:37.660 failures to fruition so one of the biggest pieces is there's a plot called bojinka from 30 years ago

00:13:44.340 and that was what happened you remember ramzi yusuf from the first world trade center he had

00:13:50.660 an electric fire in his house. He was in Asia. The cops came. They found these plans, and they

00:13:57.220 thwarted this within two weeks. This was to take down about a dozen airliners over the Trans-Pacific.

00:14:04.060 So they're going to bring that plot back to life, and it's to take down 12 airliners over U.S. soil.

00:14:12.120 So they're using the same bomb maker from the time. His name is Yazid Sufat. He was released in 2022, 0.79

00:14:17.460 and he went back to Afghanistan. So he's making the bomb. And that's the biggest piece of the 1.00

00:14:22.580 plot. But what they change this time is suicide bombers are going to detonate in their seats. So

00:14:28.440 there's not going to be any Americans that can stop them in the always, you know, as they're

00:14:33.060 trying to rush a cockpit, they'll just blow up in their seat. So that's the biggest piece. And then 0.69

00:14:37.740 they have a piece that's, I call it like a siege on Washington, DC. It's very similar to the Mumbai 0.98

00:14:42.900 attacks. And that is targeting like the Capitol, the FBI building. And then the last phase of the

00:14:49.020 plot is actually ISIS is taking it over and it's going into like hometowns. They seem to mostly 0.75

00:14:55.720 be focused on veteran communities and it's just mass casualty, kind of where people live, work

00:15:01.260 and play, but not large towns, kind of like mid-level cities. So that's the main plan, how 0.60

00:15:07.700 they have it currently laid out and they've been sending terrorists here since late 2021 but the

00:15:13.380 biggest influx came in 2022 and 2023 so they're here ready they've been casing so it's actually

00:15:20.380 a very big plot their goal is three times the deaths of 9-11 that's what they're shooting for

00:15:27.000 number so 10k plus so the aviation plot alone they want to do 4 000 got it okay so i want to

00:15:34.140 come back to you on israel but let's stay on this do you agree with what she has to say do you have

00:15:37.340 rebuttal okay please go for it i don't i don't i'm very confused by a lot of what you're talking

00:15:41.960 about how do you define caliphate so the well that i'm talking about the terrorist caliphate plan

00:15:49.400 so the only caliphate i ever heard about is a shia caliphate the only caliphate anybody's trying to

00:15:54.640 bring back is a shia caliphate no they're trying to bring back the ottoman empire concept but

00:15:59.300 actually the caliphate like al-qaeda and isis think about that's basically all across north

00:16:05.440 Africa is the biggest piece of it.

00:16:07.060 But one of those is a Sunni organization.

00:16:08.600 One of those is a Xi organization.

00:16:09.840 Yeah, they're working together.

00:16:11.560 Which is... 0.96

00:16:12.400 Remember, Iran... 0.91

00:16:14.240 On its own, a ludicrous claim.

00:16:15.740 No, Iran kept Saif al-Adel safe for years. 0.80

00:16:18.640 He's had bin Laden's kids in this country for years. 0.57

00:16:21.360 They have very, very close relationships.

00:16:23.560 Iran has people right now,

00:16:24.800 they actually have intel bases in Afghanistan.

00:16:27.700 So to think Xi and Sunni don't work together

00:16:29.800 is not true at all.

00:16:30.740 To think that they work together

00:16:32.260 in a coordinated enough fashion

00:16:34.600 to accomplish something that neither one of them has been able to accomplish by bringing back

00:16:38.460 old plans that are not only already thwarted, but so publicly known that we're sharing them

00:16:44.000 in a podcast right now. Like, do you really think that that's what they're putting their

00:16:47.220 time and effort into? 9-11 was executed so effectively that even CIA and FBI didn't have

00:16:54.200 a full picture of the plot. Yeah. The U.S. government has not found one of these bombs

00:16:58.160 yet for the airliners so al-qaeda is successful it hasn't been thwarted i just it it seems like

00:17:04.820 a huge amount of claims with very little evidence to back it up there's plenty of evidence and

00:17:09.040 there's plenty of evidence over time of sunni and shia working together for example during the

00:17:13.200 second libyan civil war al-qaeda fought isis fought and hamas fought all in benghazi on the

00:17:19.440 same side yeah they all fought in the same side for a shared common interest yeah how can you say

00:17:24.840 But they still lost the Syrian civil war

00:17:27.720 I never said they're going to win

00:17:28.920 I said this is aspirational

00:17:30.220 And they're focused on the caliphate plan 0.96

00:17:32.180 They think they're winning 0.88

00:17:33.400 A joint caliphate 0.98

00:17:34.740 Yes 0.98

00:17:35.220 You have doubts

00:17:38.960 I have insane doubts

00:17:40.460 You don't think it's worth being paranoid

00:17:42.100 Even a percent considered that

00:17:43.940 I mean would I say 5%

00:17:45.580 I think a few percent

00:17:46.680 But right now everything Sarah's laying out

00:17:49.900 Is so far below the threshold

00:17:53.080 of what warrants our attention, right?

00:17:56.340 What you're laying out doesn't affect our stock market.

00:17:59.060 It doesn't affect the lives.

00:18:01.060 When it happens, the percentage will go up.

00:18:03.960 But where it is right now is irrelevant.

00:18:06.500 You're saying after it happens?

00:18:07.440 Even when we have some kind of reasonable threat

00:18:10.400 that is coming from multiple sources besides,

00:18:14.320 you're the only person I've ever heard this from.

00:18:15.740 I live and work in the Middle East.

00:18:16.820 I'm not the only one talking about al-Qaeda's homeland plot.

00:18:18.700 That's for sure.

00:18:19.320 You may not be the only one talking about it.

00:18:21.100 You're the first person that has presented me with information that is completely contradictory to what experience and information has led me to believe.

00:18:31.560 Well, I don't believe that.

00:18:32.640 I've seen Tony and Shia work together.

00:18:34.880 I believe that you don't believe that.

00:18:35.580 There's monthly meetings right now with IRGC, Quds Force, Al-Qaeda, Taliban.

00:18:40.820 And there are people who swear they saw aliens.

00:18:43.220 And they will tell you to their face.

00:18:44.480 And other people have said they also saw aliens. 1.00

00:18:46.220 Therefore, aliens must be true.

00:18:48.820 I'm not claiming to be. 0.99

00:18:49.760 Okay.

00:18:49.980 But I am claiming to question your conclusion.

00:18:52.940 Right.

00:18:53.180 That's fine with me.

00:18:54.660 And by the way, as a targeter, were you a terrorism expert?

00:18:57.480 Yes.

00:18:57.640 That was your specialty.

00:18:58.420 Yes, it was.

00:18:58.840 Okay.

00:18:59.320 And it was Pakistan, Afghanistan, and that's where the current plot's coming from.

00:19:02.760 It's actually been coming from All Fruit Camp.

00:19:05.460 It's in Kandahar, Afghanistan.

00:19:06.700 It's a very famous camp.

00:19:08.140 They rebuilt it in 2022.

00:19:10.280 Okay.

00:19:10.700 This is great.

00:19:11.520 I'm loving this because the audience is winning right now to see the different perspectives.

00:19:15.360 Let's go to Israel now.

00:19:16.220 some people may watch it Sarah and they may say

00:19:18.680 you put Israel at zero

00:19:20.540 are you kidding me look what they're doing with politicians

00:19:22.840 in America look what they dragged us into

00:19:24.800 a war you know even

00:19:26.360 Marco Rubio said they

00:19:28.280 you know they got us to get into it

00:19:30.680 and this is why we're going into war there's a lot

00:19:32.800 of messaging about what Israel is

00:19:34.720 and their popularity 0.58

00:19:36.080 right now message wise people don't trust them

00:19:38.720 right now the president has put value

00:19:40.480 in Israel and you don't hear the president

00:19:42.680 talking about ISIS I want to hear your thoughts

00:19:44.580 And I don't want to come to you. 0.96

00:19:45.500 I want to go to that.

00:19:46.280 So why did you put Israel at zero?

00:19:47.800 The president talks about ISIS.

00:19:48.580 The president just bombed a senior leader of ISIS on the 19th.

00:19:52.360 He was the head of ISIS in Aleppo.

00:19:54.020 So the president is talking about ISIS, just maybe behind closed doors, but he is bombing them.

00:19:59.400 So don't act like President Trump isn't focused on ISIS because he is.

00:20:03.660 Just Israel takes all the attention and the clicks and the focus. 0.97

00:20:08.060 So I think Qatar and the Muslim Brotherhood have the biggest influence and the most concerning influence. 0.98

00:20:14.580 I believe if anybody is having their arm twisted by Israel, they're too weak to be in their position. 0.99

00:20:21.560 That's my opinion. 0.99

00:20:22.540 Tell me more.

00:20:23.140 Just because I don't think Israel has, they don't have a big stick.

00:20:28.840 There's nothing they can hold over your head.

00:20:32.960 Like when you're negotiating with them, they don't have a ton to bring to the table.

00:20:36.340 They barely can deal with their own threats.

00:20:39.200 so they're not going to come to me and negotiate with me and win I feel if I'm a senior leader in 0.89

00:20:45.140 the U.S. government and in the military so for anyone to say oh we did this because Israel

00:20:50.480 talked us into it or Israel forced us into it's like who are you and you should be fired right

00:20:55.560 that's that's how I think I just I've worked in this field for a long time and never once have I

00:21:00.920 had like Israel twist my arm I mean I found that a little foolish it's almost like the movies

00:21:05.440 here we go mr 25 israel israel has the second most capable military in the world that's a big 0.99

00:21:13.860 fucking stick they have nuclear weapons they have nuclear weapons that's a big fucking stick they 0.97

00:21:18.760 have the jewish diaspora and huge amounts of wealth that's a big stick they they managed 20 1.00

00:21:25.080 percent of trade with the united states that's a gigantic stick i don't know how you think

00:21:29.820 israel doesn't have a big stick and that's before we even get into the political leverage that they

00:21:34.400 have, not to mention the regional power that they possess against countries like Saudi

00:21:39.600 Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, other American allies simply cannot bring the military skill, the

00:21:45.800 military capacity, the military talent, or the intelligence capability that Israel can 0.60

00:21:52.460 bring. 0.99

00:21:52.900 They are one of the biggest sticks in the fucking world. 0.99

00:21:56.100 And they're backed by us, which is the biggest stick in the world. 1.00

00:21:59.900 Israel's good in a couple countries

00:22:02.260 and that's what their intelligence is good on 0.99

00:22:04.500 and then their intelligence sucks everywhere else. 0.99

00:22:06.680 I don't disagree. 0.99

00:22:07.420 It's because they only focus on the countries

00:22:09.460 that are an active threat to them

00:22:10.560 because we shelter them from everything else.

00:22:12.600 But that's what I'm saying.

00:22:13.640 And they shelter us from the countries

00:22:16.400 that we don't have any intel.

00:22:17.500 I just, I really don't think Israel is protecting us 0.58

00:22:20.640 from the rest of the world.

00:22:21.680 I just think, I'm sorry, 0.92

00:22:23.260 Israel isn't as powerful as people make them to be. 0.76

00:22:26.180 I've never seemed to be powerful. 1.00

00:22:27.940 You live in a fantasy land.

00:22:29.260 No, people want to talk about them all the time because that's kind of like the new thing. 0.97

00:22:36.580 But at the end of the day, I'm not going to wake up tomorrow morning and Israel's bombing my city.

00:22:41.800 If that's what you're concerned about, you have an incredibly narrow focus.

00:22:44.980 No, I'm just saying that they're not a threat to us in any way. 0.68

00:22:47.780 It was Israel's actions that have us in the straits that we are in. 0.98

00:22:51.480 The literal fucking straits of Hormuz. 0.97

00:22:53.600 Iran attacking on October 7th with Hamas, killing over 30 Americans and taking a dozen more Americans hostages. 0.99

00:23:01.600 Why we're in the mess we are in. 0.98

00:23:03.360 It's the fault of the terrorists.

00:23:07.100 Like they dragged us into another conflict.

00:23:09.820 It is a shared responsibility.

00:23:13.080 It is a shared responsibility.

00:23:15.080 Lots of bad calls on both sides. 0.99

00:23:18.440 Yeah, but I'm not, it's silly to think that Israel doesn't pose any threats. 0.62

00:23:21.720 Okay, so the terrorists didn't drag any of us into that situation. 0.98

00:23:24.320 I said it's a shared fucking responsibility. 0.99

00:23:26.140 Sarah, do you listen? 0.99

00:23:27.220 Do you listen?

00:23:28.240 Or do you only focus on what you think?

00:23:29.540 I'm just trying to hear your answer because you're not saying the terrorists had any responsibility.

00:23:34.380 I said a shared responsibility.

00:23:36.660 Of who?

00:23:36.960 And when you say the terrorists, I'm not exactly sure if you're talking about the Islamic revolutionaries

00:23:42.240 or whether you're talking about terrorists that have a political agenda

00:23:45.140 or whether you're talking about the terrorists that cross a border

00:23:48.060 and haven't actually carried out any terrorist act.

00:23:50.500 I'm talking about the 8,000 terrorists who killed people on October 7th, including killing Americans.

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Valuetainment - July 15, 2026

＂Rank Your Biggest Threats＂ - Ex-CIA Officers Clash Over China, Israel & Islam

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