“Resign and Step Aside” - Amy Coney Barrett Sounds Off on Death Threats
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Summary
Amy Coney Barrett tells the world that she s been getting threats, and the world sympathizes. It s not an easy job to be a Supreme Court justice, especially when you have to vote a certain way. But this report comes out, and a clip of her talking about the threats goes viral.
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Emmy Coney Barrett tells the world that she's been getting threats,
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It's not an easy job to be Supreme Court justice,
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especially when you have to vote a certain way.
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if you want to first show the numbers, then we'll go to the clip,
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and then I want you to see what other Supreme Court justice said
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when they were trying to scare the crap out of him,
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and saying, even if it kills me, I'm not letting you guys do this
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on the face of a previous president, Joe Biden, in the video.
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Amy Coney Barrett's record tells a troubling story, okay?
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Before Dobbs, she voted with conservative position in 81% of unanimous cases.
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Since then, that number was dropped sharply into the 50% to 60% range.
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Including on major cases involving birthright citizenship.
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You know what birthright citizenship, it's stuff that liberals would even agree with.
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So birthright citizenship and election procedures, you know the whole voter ID stuff that was
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going through as well, and administrative power where she has sided with Chief Justice
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The Dobbs leak triggered violent threats and protests aimed directly at Supreme Court justices.
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If the threat of violence or intimidation can move a justice vote on fundamental issues,
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we have a constitutional crisis on our hands and i agree with this tweet judicial independence is
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not optional it is the foundation of the rule of law when justice appears to bend under pressure
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public trust collapses and the entire system is at risk can i give a respect to this tweet of this
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person can you go to the name of the person so i can give him a shout out i just want to make sure
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the right person roscoe uh roscoe smith uh is that the sixth i think it's roscoe smith the fourth
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So as you go and you go through this, this cannot be allowed to stand, etc., etc.
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If you look at the left, it's how the votes were, 81%.
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And then this video comes out where she's talking about the threats she got.
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That one time she had to go home with a vest on.
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It's the other one where she does the Fox interview.
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if you don't have it i think if you go below that you should find it when you see this clip
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of her when she's out there uh if you just do you have it or you want to go uh no not this one
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there's one of her being interviewed on fox amy coney barrett where she's being interviewed on
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fox and she's explaining the threats that she got and uh by the way all you have to do is
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here let me just send it to you from here if you don't have it i just send it to you if you want
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pull it up okay she explains how it's scary for her she explains how she had to go there you go
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she explains how she had to go to her family and her son watch this this is tough folks i i'm i'm
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totally sympathizing with her and that she's gone through this watch this so i thought i would just
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share a little bit about how the threats have affected me and my family personally um they
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have required me to my children to think about and see things that children should not have to
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see or think about. One example is when threats to my life were particularly intense a few years
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ago around the time of the Dobbs leak. My security details sent me home with a bulletproof vest and I
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carried it into my house, put it into my bedroom, dropped it down on a table, turned around and my
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12-year-old son was standing in the doorway of my bedroom and he wanted to know what it was
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and why I had it and I didn't know how to respond because maybe I lack imagination but I didn't
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expect that performing this service was going to put me in the position of explaining to
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my children what a bulletproof vest was and why I had to wear one.
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It's also been reported in the news that roughly six weeks ago, I was the victim of a swatting
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At that point, my teenage son, one of my teenage sons, opened the door to go out with friends
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and saw in our street, it was full of police cars, who had responded to a false report of
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gunshots and raised voices in my home I was very very grateful that I had Supreme Court police
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outside my home because they were able to stop and meet with and explain to the county police
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that it had been a false alarm and so the police did not actually attempt to enter you can pause
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it right there so by the way devastating this should not be happening nobody should have to
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go through this especially Amy who is only in her early 50s you can tell she's very young
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and she's got seven kids her and her husband have seven kids together starting from 25 to 20 to
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18 15 13 and 12 i believe they have seven kids if i'm not mistaken it's six or seven kids
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big family this shouldn't happen however don't take the job don't take the job because watch
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what happened when they try to push another guy for the same job and look how he reacted
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look at the difference go for it i'd rather die than withdraw look at joe biden how he looks at
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So if they're going to kill me, they're going to kill me.
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on disney plus so you'd still like to serve on the supreme court i'd rather die than withdraw
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from the process i don't like bullies listen say it look at biden not for the purpose of serving on
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supreme court but for the purpose of not being driven out of this process wait for it i would
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not be scared i don't like bullies bingo i've never run from bullies i never cry uncle and i'm not
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going to cry uncle today whether i want to be on the supreme court or not so i thought i love him
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so you see the difference there so here's the thing so one could sit there and say well why
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If you want to go to my Twitter account, what I said about it,
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I mean, I'll just pull it up here on what I have,
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is if this job comes with threats, this job is risky,
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this job has a lot of pressure, this job isn't for everybody,
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but if you're scared for your life, then quit.
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My suggestion, Amy Coney Barrett should resign and step out of the way.
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And by the way, we shouldn't judge her for it.
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If you realize, I had a guy one time, he told me this,
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and I'll come to you guys because I want to hear your thoughts.
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There is no story bigger than this, in my opinion.
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If all of a sudden they scare the crap out of you,
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go from 81% conservative to 50%, step the hell out of the way. One time a guy who was on my board,
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he said to me, he says, Pat, I can't do these board meetings anymore. I said, why not?
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He says, because I'm getting anxiety. I said, really? He says, I'm not even comfortable
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presenting in front of the board. It makes me really nervous. I said, no problem. Let's have
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a meeting. I said, which part of it? And we had a cordial conversation, one of the best employees
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One of the best employees I've ever had in my life.
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few decades yesterday rogan and vance were speaking and one of the things that came up
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was that rogan said it's almost as if democrats want to be able to cheat because who has a hard
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time giving ids out joe is saying this very common sense conversation with vance and he says
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you know even during what do you call it uh covid they wanted me to have a vaccine card
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id card i think he's saying something like that what's the big deal these are the types of things
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Call me black and white, whatever you want to call me.
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By the way, if Trey says I don't want to do it because I talked to Trey once,
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But get somebody in there that wants the job and knows the threats that comes with it.
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Well, first, I've got some facts for people. Threats against senators, congressmen, and Supreme Court justices. Apparently, the FBI investigates 20-some threats that may be credible threats a week. In other words, a lunatic sends an email or they intercept something, but nothing comes of it. The person was just blowing off steam, makes some comments. That seems pretty regular.
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Do you know how many actual assassination attempts against Supreme Court justice there have been?
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Three. The first happened in 1889, and it was Supreme Court Justice Stephen Field.
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He was tracked and being stalked, and so he hired a security guard, and at a train station in California, he was attacked by the stalker, and the security guard, 1889, with a Colt .45, shot him dead.
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the next one would happen a hundred years later harry blackmun who's harry blackmun
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the author of roe v wade in 1985 a bullet was fired through a window of his house from an
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assailant outside that fled but it was a bona fide assassination attempt apparently the guy
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was trying to follow the shadow of him you know even if you have the curtains pulled pat they can
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see your shadow walking he was he was trying to make the hit so it wasn't just a drive-by it was
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a bona fide attempt. And he was the Roe v. Wade author. You know when the next one happened?
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2022. It was Brent Kavanaugh. Brent Kavanaugh, Nick Roski, traveled from California, had a Glock,
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pepper spray, map of Kavanaugh's house, overview of police detail, zip ties. So he was ready to do
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it. Apparently he had a mental breakdown and he called 911 on himself, Pat. So thank goodness
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whatever happened there now Dobbs leak happened it um in early 2022 before the Kavanaugh this guy
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was triggered by Dobbs and went to Kavanaugh's house and Amy Comey Barrett when was she confirmed
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October of 2020 remember remember what went down with that is that Trump 45 got her done
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just two weeks before the election and there was all the controversy for the senate but the senate
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got her done 2020 for the election why do i bring this up she knew she was coming into a really hot
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time and a really intense time not only for america but to be on the supreme court and then
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to see what's happened with kavanaugh that was a bona fide threat that could have gone very very
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badly and i agree with you look if the situation is just so intense right now and there is no
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shame in saying zero i can't put my and by the way imagine her with all those children
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how do i get security for every school every date every athletic event they go to to protect
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all of my children and my family and it may just be something that she says i can't do it
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But what's interesting, we're entering into a time now,
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we've only had three of those full attempts on record
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All the ones, Katanji Brown and all the other ones,
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they're all left, they're all Democrats, correct?
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So she's the only one, and it's sad, but I mean...
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And Tom, how many times, how, I've been on this podcast, Pat, for what, four years now?
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I'm not saying the other side, the Republican conservative side, isn't violent.
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But when it comes to this type of stuff, it's as if it's only coming from one side.
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Keep on your thought, but I got to interrupt you and say it's not as if.
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supreme court uphold the constitution not to bend to intimidation okay if a violent threat
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could change the way that you're deciding rules pat then the mob has the power of the law and
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that cannot freaking happen that's why i love that you said with all due respect you can't take the
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heat you have to get out of the kitchen and i feel so bad for you think you think we're happy that
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her 12 year old has to sit there and go hey what's that and she's like oh it's a bulletproof vest
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because they want to kill mommy okay but if fear is influencing your judgment you have no business
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to be in the highest court in the country you made a great point i think it was like two weeks
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ago pat where you're like at the end of the day with all the noise and all the fluff when it comes
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down to these people they're making the decisions and when it comes to the serious ones they're
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kind of leaning towards the the right decision with the decision tom or six you know six three
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or whatever whatever the number is but we cannot let these people win and how many times tom every
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time we're trying to do something to help the country with interfering with the ice agents
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murdering of charlie kirk god rest his soul even on their own side remember melissa hortman
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she tried to vote against uh giving illegals um health care they shot and killed her at her house
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and who's doing it you think a republican did it no it's people of the same freaking party pat so
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if that kind of behavior succeeds in changing supreme court decisions then the rule of law
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is under attack and we have we can't we can't do it and i'm sorry and the senate election is more
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If she was my wife, I would say, babe, hey, if you're going and kids are not safe and
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this is what's happening, hey, let's figure something out.
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Well, PBD, I think it's actually a very important discussion.
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We don't really talk about the Supreme Court all that often.
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Trump gets all the media attention, Iran, everything that's going on.
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but I think you bring up a very interesting conversation.
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So we may be respectfully being a little unfair to her,
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because if you look at her voting record, she's actually pretty damn conservative.
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I mean, the way that it goes, Tom kind of broke it down.
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You have the conservative wing and the liberal wing.
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And then you got Alito, who's like right behind him.
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Interestingly enough, the next conservative, if you look at their voting record, goes Gorsuch, then Amy Comey Barrett, then Kavanaugh, having a beer with him would be fun.
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then what they call like center right judge uh justice roberts and then center right then you
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have this huge wide gap between the three female liberal judges elena kagan katanji john brown
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jackson sorry miss jackson and sotomayor who's like the most liberal obama inductee ever but
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But here's what I see. I see six conservatives, legit, some are Senate right, and three liberals.
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I understand this is a tough job. And, you know, PBD, you always say, what's the number one job of a mom, a mama bear?
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Safety and security of her kids. If she feels threatened for her kids, maybe she could consider stepping down.
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But as far as what she's done for the country, as far as her voting rights, abortion, affirmative action,
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second amendment religious liberties parents not transing their kids she's been pretty damn
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conservative so i'll tip my cap to her on that but the dot pad the dobbs decision though was role
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v way i think i think adam missed the first three minutes of the the clip that we had
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where the main analysis is how it changed yeah so maybe you went on chat gbtn said who's the
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was conservative after Dobbs it changed guy after Dobbs it changed Dobbs was what year did you see
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the dates so she may have been very conservative pre no after Dobbs June 2022 she got in October
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of 20 after that she dropped off so you know if if that when you see numbers like that happen
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I'm going to sit there and have serious conversations with you.
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And by the way, how often has a Supreme Court justice
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for family reasons, for non-controversial reasons.
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How many times have Supreme Court justices resigned
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I don't know if it's happened or not, but guess what?
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this may be a good time for us to consider this okay there's been 116 different people
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that have served the supreme court 107 are no longer serving 109 which might nine so if you
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mean true resignations not retirement zoom in a little bit john jay well that's a long time ago
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1795 yeah oliver ellsworth ellsworth tom's great great come on surprise chief john
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Charles Evan Hughes, 1916, to run for president.
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So the short answer is most left through retirement.
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Or get hardcore security and go back to the way you truly vote,
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not letting the other people scare the crap out of you,
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where you know when it comes on to birthright citizenship it's that complicated of an issue
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for you to vote against for that that's that's not you know or you know voter ID or other things
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anyway so to me the biggest concern with the story is her way of voting changed after Dobbs
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because the threats that she got and that that cannot happen you can't have something like that
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happen Adam I hear you loud and clear yes I did hear the first three minutes sir I'm just asking
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simple question you know they say like correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation did it actually
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change after that or did the cases change i just showed you the numbers because what's that i just
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showed you the numbers right there no meaning did the cases change to the point which is like
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because look here's what i know and i'm this is not the hill i'm gonna die and i promise you this
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her mentor is who anton scalia very conservative guy what they basically say about this lady this
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And you're laying in bed at night with your husband saying,
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Maybe it's not worth to have the risk for the kids.
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You don't think those types of conversations happen at night
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when you're laying next to your wife and your husband?
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job sucks don't take the job oh my gosh honey it sucks oh my god you know the president got
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there was assassination temp on him he's the freaking president or oh my god you know such
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and such they try to foul him hey did you see the detroit pistons try to hurt michael jordan
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yes don't come through the middle oh my god that's that's just not yeah it kind of what happens when
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you get that kind of a so yeah to me i'm just i'm i i think i think it's something that she ought to
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