Valuetainment - November 10, 2026


RFK Jr.’s Ex-Adviser Accuses Susie Wiles of Taking Sugar Money

Did the Left Push the LGBTQ Agenda Too Far？

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00:00:00.000 Chief of Staff.
00:00:01.760 So, Suzy Wiles, all of a sudden, out, replaced with Stephen Miller.
00:00:07.600 While this happens, after Suzy Wiles being fired after the midterms blowout,
00:00:13.560 then a Cali, means senior advisor to RFK from HHS, goes on the Rogan podcast.
00:00:20.780 I don't know if you have a clip from that one or not.
00:00:22.980 In the podcast, they talk about a lot of different things.
00:00:25.260 One of the things they talk about is that Suzy Wallace had a group of three people that were working for her.
00:00:31.000 The timing of some of the things that happened, where her daughter got her job at this one place, that the revenue went from zero to $30 million.
00:00:37.180 Too many things that was concerning, but I'll let you watch the clip here first, and then we'll react to it.
00:00:41.840 Go for it.
00:00:42.480 And Suzy's person, Walker Bear, is there, and he puts an executive order down on the desk, and he says, please review.
00:00:53.900 And it was the glyphosate EO that says it's a national security issue.
00:00:59.720 We need to have glyphosate and alluded to liability protection using national defense reasons.
00:01:06.000 National security to make sure that we have glyphosate use.
00:01:10.460 And I will tell you, the secretary of war, the major generals, they don't see our lack of glyphosate on U.S. farms as a national security issue.
00:01:20.820 And the EO was all about farming, all about glyphosate.
00:01:23.440 Nobody in military leadership sees this as a national security issue.
00:01:27.620 So Walker put that on the table.
00:01:30.840 I read it.
00:01:32.100 I said, this is a political disaster.
00:01:35.260 You know, we need to talk about this.
00:01:38.020 And he said, this is final.
00:01:40.460 It's national security.
00:01:41.940 It's coming out tomorrow.
00:01:44.560 I know the people in the room.
00:01:46.620 And he said, please inform Bobby, and this is not up for discussion.
00:01:49.900 And Bobby should not be calling the president or calling anyone.
00:01:52.840 This is not up for discussion. Susie then called Bobby's office and said, we're not discussing this.
00:01:59.180 I went and informed Bobby and it was announced the next day.
00:02:04.240 OK, so this obviously, Tom, I'll come to you first, because I know you've got a lot of things you want to say.
00:02:08.940 Matter of fact, I'll just come to you first. What are your thoughts on this?
00:02:11.000 First, Susie Wiles, Stephen Miller, and then this story dropping with Callie Means.
00:02:14.720 First of all, the whole dialogue over the weekend is now calling into question, was Susie Wiles a chief of staff or was she, you know, kind of crossing over the line like so many of them do?
00:02:29.580 And is she open now to the allegation that maybe she was a, you know, a swamp creature like so many others?
00:02:35.800 And when they say swamp creature, they're talking about people that end up on the public dole using their position in government to get there.
00:02:44.360 And so you've got on one hand, Susie's being accused of that.
00:02:48.100 And if that's the case, that is disappointing to me.
00:02:50.620 And that was really sad because I thought she was a white hat.
00:02:53.380 But what Callie means is bring it up here.
00:02:56.060 And then over the weekend on this, they reached out to him and said, hey, you know, this isn't true.
00:03:03.760 And he said, great. If it's not true, then let me post the following protection order.
00:03:09.920 And what what he did was here it is.
00:03:11.740 He came back and said, okay, if you say it's not true that I'm calling you out as sort of a swamp creature and as a member of the swamp that was supposedly we were supposed to be draining, and yet you're making money on it and you're protecting gliosphate under national security, a chemical that is giving people cancer in use in agricultural, he says, then you need to do this.
00:03:35.180 You need to preserve all of the following.
00:03:37.900 And when he goes out with this, crickets, Pat.
00:03:40.700 When he came out and said, all of this protective, crickets.
00:03:44.260 Todd Blanche was then asked on the CBS morning shows on Sunday, hey, what about this?
00:03:50.800 He referred to him as a podcaster and said that he is not inclined to investigate this because he's a disgruntled ex-government employee.
00:04:02.620 How do you process that?
00:04:04.220 I process that as like, well, Todd's certainly not running to Susie Wiles' corner, you know, and all he would have had to do if Todd was really on Susie's corner, what is the only thing he has to do?
00:04:15.760 This guy better watch his mouth.
00:04:17.180 He was in charge of and access to very sensitive information, government secrets and stuff.
00:04:22.260 I think you need to be careful about the things he says.
00:04:24.980 That's all you have to say as an AG.
00:04:27.080 You know what I mean, Pat, to kind of throw a shot out there?
00:04:29.700 He doesn't.
00:04:30.720 He just says, I don't really pay attention.
00:04:32.840 and I understand what he said and everything. 0.99
00:04:34.920 So the first thing I have is on Suzy Wiles. 0.98
00:04:38.380 I'm going, wow, this is a big allegation.
00:04:41.220 This is a big steaming pot of goo if it is in fact true.
00:04:46.060 And it's exactly the kind of things that people talk about the revolving door
00:04:50.120 that you leave government and you go up to K Street,
00:04:53.040 you end up on a board, and you end up as a lobbyist.
00:04:55.800 Yeah, so one of the allegations he made is that Suzy Wiles put lobbyists 1.00
00:04:59.140 and campaign donations ahead of Children's Health,
00:05:01.620 And she kept telling them to Callie and others, we need money for midterms, Callie.
00:05:06.660 We need money for midterms.
00:05:08.020 And then, of course, a daughter allegedly received special treatment with the business dealing that employed Wiles' daughter as a lobbyist receiving preferential access to government funding.
00:05:18.660 And then Trump being kept on in the dark by his own advisors not telling him what's going on.
00:05:25.480 That was one of the bigger things where Trump didn't know that some of these things that were taking place.
00:05:29.220 So this looks very, very nasty on this story coming out.
00:05:34.080 Tom, in regard to this, this is my question for you.
00:05:38.020 You know how sometimes, because the part that makes it weird to me is the following.
00:05:42.740 Here's what makes it weird to me.
00:05:45.140 When did this interview drop?
00:05:47.940 Great.
00:05:48.420 I got you.
00:05:49.420 Two or three days ago.
00:05:50.320 What day did it drop?
00:05:51.360 So the interview was on Thursday, November 5th.
00:05:55.500 Thursday, November 5th.
00:05:56.700 What is that?
00:05:57.000 The interview dropped Friday, November 6th.
00:05:59.120 So, okay, when did Wiles get fired?
00:06:00.920 And Trump announced that Wiles was out 0.71
00:06:02.860 and Stephen Miller was replacing her on Friday.
00:06:05.320 Same time, same date.
00:06:07.180 So the Rogan interview was Thursday, the actual interview.
00:06:10.520 Susie submitted her resignation that night.
00:06:13.080 The interview drops on Friday, November 6th,
00:06:15.000 and Trump announces that Wiles was out and Miller was in on Friday.
00:06:18.160 After the interview.
00:06:18.740 Yes.
00:06:19.140 So the interview wasn't done on the 6th.
00:06:21.040 The interview was done the day before because you've got to cut it up.
00:06:23.340 Cut it Thursday.
00:06:23.940 Do all that stuff.
00:06:25.060 So I think this was the sequencing.
00:06:28.220 I think this was a guest that went on that was timed to get ahead of the story of Wiles,
00:06:36.480 to minimize the stories, and I think it was very intentional, and the sequencing was brilliant.
00:06:40.420 Great.
00:06:41.160 Because what it automatically did is say something, go, announce it, you better not say anything,
00:06:47.400 or else do the interview, boom, let's move on. 1.00
00:06:51.280 She's been fired. 1.00
00:06:52.220 I think that's what happened.
00:06:53.580 Do you understand what I'm saying?
00:06:54.340 Yes, I do, exactly.
00:06:55.520 And I also want to, my third point, I understand that and I agree with it.
00:07:00.740 But one of the things that bothers me about it is that she called them the sugar guys.
00:07:05.560 And supposedly multiple people on the inside said that's exactly what she was saying.
00:07:10.360 They went out to get money from the sugar guys.
00:07:12.800 And RFK, remember, he came out on vaccination.
00:07:15.460 He came out on COVID.
00:07:16.320 He came out on food dyes.
00:07:18.160 Do you remember what happened when they started going out on sugar?
00:07:20.720 All of a sudden, RFK, wait, wait, wait, hang on a second.
00:07:23.160 Let's go easy on sugar.
00:07:24.300 we're selling a lot of diabetic medication in this country and we sell a lot of sugar
00:07:27.940 maybe rfk you got your food dyes you got your covid you got your other things but maybe let's
00:07:32.720 all of a sudden maha kind of you remember that i remember all of a sudden maha got quiet and so i
00:07:38.040 see all of this together but i agree with you on the sequencing at the end but if this is really
00:07:42.760 true and this is how it went then we went to drain the swamp but but they circumvented trump
00:07:48.280 And behind his back, apparently, we're doing swamp things.
00:07:52.060 And, Tom, you mentioned the sugar.
00:07:53.700 He said this percentage, which I checked, which is a little bit lower,
00:07:57.260 talking about the sugar folks, 38% of teens have prediabetes,
00:08:01.500 and he said nobody gives a you-know-what.
00:08:03.620 What's the real number, though?
00:08:04.720 I checked it, Elon.
00:08:05.360 It's a little bit less, but think about that.
00:08:08.160 Almost 40% of kids are prediabetic.
00:08:12.680 So he's not lying.
00:08:13.820 All the Coca-Cola, all the everything.
00:08:15.320 And I just want to make a quick point with Tom.
00:08:18.280 I was talking with Tom about how RFK went in there and he did his thing.
00:08:22.740 Then all of a sudden, I'm like, well, I haven't heard anything about this guy.
00:08:25.440 And this is what bothers me.
00:08:27.200 I have two questions, Ilan.
00:08:28.640 What else was kept?
00:08:30.340 What else was she gatekeeping or whatever?
00:08:33.140 Because we talked about this before the podcast.
00:08:35.120 Well, you're the president of the United States.
00:08:36.820 You can't.
00:08:37.580 You own businesses.
00:08:38.500 Pat owns businesses.
00:08:39.200 Yeah, we were talking about it.
00:08:40.120 You can't sit there and puppeteer everything.
00:08:42.580 You have to trust this person.
00:08:44.920 And if this person is what they're saying that it is, they were keeping things which were, by the way, harming Americans and harming children because of their lobbying interests.
00:08:53.860 And the list was huge, Tom. 0.58
00:08:55.120 So I just want to what else was kept was think about anything with the Iraq was a chemical that was harming adults and that the cancer incidents among adults working with that, I believe, is six, six X worse. 0.79
00:09:09.260 So this gliosphate is an industrial chemical, which is there were big, giant companies making big donations, Pat, that needed protection.
00:09:20.120 Yeah, but this is a longstanding issue in politics.
00:09:23.480 It's everything people hate in the government, that you have this group of centralized power that's stopping things for their own personal benefit from getting things.
00:09:30.360 It's literally what the establishment represents.
00:09:32.720 What you were touching on, it is impossible when you're at the top to manage every single person under you.
00:09:37.660 It would just be a physical impossibility.
00:09:38.980 But the something about Callie that makes me think this has a lot more legitimacy is that he's been speaking on these issues for a long time.
00:09:45.980 He cares about these issues.
00:09:48.400 There's old stories.
00:09:49.500 You know, everyone makes fun of Alex Jones.
00:09:51.200 It's an old Atrazine story. 0.98
00:09:52.720 He was talking about the frogs are going gay. 0.99
00:09:54.300 The frogs are going gay. 1.00
00:09:55.160 There is actual truth to that story. 0.99
00:09:57.160 The frogs didn't go gay, but they did have like micropenis development and they did have sex chains all from Atrazine, which is banned in every other country.
00:10:07.120 and the EPA and all special interest groups
00:10:09.440 went against the doctor
00:10:11.200 that did tons of research on it.
00:10:12.560 There were like 36 other research papers.
00:10:14.820 They got them all denied
00:10:15.780 and the only one that got approved
00:10:17.320 was from the company
00:10:18.520 that actually ran their own private investigation
00:10:20.680 into atrazine.
00:10:22.060 There's so much
00:10:22.980 and at the expense of who?
00:10:24.600 At the expense of our children,
00:10:26.080 at the expense of our health.
00:10:27.300 How long, I don't even know,
00:10:28.740 like this is just,
00:10:29.640 I have no idea how long people might have known
00:10:31.440 that asbestos might be dangerous
00:10:32.900 or smoking was dangerous before.
00:10:35.120 it took years to get it out into the 50s they ran camel ran ads in the 50s with a doctor smoking a
00:10:41.680 cigarette that said more vitamins yeah so that's that is the game this is not new people believe
00:10:49.340 that the thing that hurts the most is people believe trump was going to end this game and
00:10:53.480 what happened it got played at a higher level than we've seen for many many years so i have two
00:10:58.600 things and you're right just like with in 2016 when he just showed up and he's like oh my god i
00:11:02.820 one pat the christopher everybody's like well he appointed them how would he know he was brand new
00:11:07.320 but my question to you is pat how do you stop this what's the solution to stop somebody like
00:11:13.360 susie wiles if these accusations are true which i kind of i'm on cali means aside how do you stop
00:11:19.040 this from happening you know it's interesting again anthony asked me the question this morning
00:11:23.260 it says what leads to men you know like nvidia jensen long doing what he does i said the most
00:11:28.380 powerful way to uh uh get somebody to do something stupid is flattery and tom and i have had this
00:11:35.780 conversation together many many times and my guys and i i do this all the time because here here's 0.90
00:11:40.720 how it goes it'll go with vinya let you say you're married a girl comes up to you you've been married
00:11:45.320 for 18 years and she'll say my god if you were my wife if you were my husband every morning i would
00:11:51.580 i would not i would not let you leave full you would always leave empty yeah i would do this i
00:11:56.280 bet your wife pleases you all day long yeah and she's fishing and you're like yeah yeah and you're
00:12:01.180 like she actually doesn't and you're now upset oh my goodness you you know i'm sure your wife is
00:12:08.880 very grateful for how amazing of a man you are good looking makes money smart funny all of that
00:12:14.380 there's not too many men like you in the world yeah and uh you now walk away who's the first
00:12:18.660 person you call and fight hey hey i'm full what happened right what are you doing so then that
00:12:25.580 leads to a fight that leads to that so you have to know certain elements of what causes people to
00:12:31.480 fall flattery is one of them okay flattery is one of them power is another one okay thinking that
00:12:38.760 you have immunity is another one looks oh my god i'm i'm the chief of staff i can do this i can do
00:12:42.960 that kids kids we had an event this weekend and one of the guys is there they want to have their
00:12:49.880 son be the CEO of the company. And they have one son. So the husband and wife, the mom and dad are
00:12:58.180 there, and we're having this conversation. And he comes and asks me, hey, what do you think about me
00:13:03.800 when if I'm such and such, I'm about to be the CEO, what would you suggest? He said, you really
00:13:08.400 want me to tell you the answer? Yeah. And I waited for the mom and dad to be there. I said, maybe
00:13:12.180 you're not good at being a CEO. I said, I got four kids. He said, if you think for a second, just
00:13:17.640 because you're my kid you're going to be the CEO of the company you have one thing come it's not
00:13:21.140 going to be the case and I tell my kids that all the time if you're not that good at what you do
00:13:26.500 and somebody else is they're going to get the job over you it's not just because you're a kid that
00:13:30.040 you're going to get that job right so that automatically becomes what where you put your
00:13:35.500 kids over the job I have a lot of relatives I would I love I would never hire them this isn't
00:13:40.860 just about you being able to do this but but that's very hard you're tempted because as a
00:13:45.440 Parent, what do you want to do with your kids?
00:13:47.140 You want to make sure you raise the ceiling for them that becomes their ground.
00:13:49.760 You want to make sure you give them a better offer.
00:13:51.160 You want to make sure they do better and succeed in all this stuff.
00:13:54.300 This is never going away.
00:13:57.040 Never, ever is this going away of that.
00:13:59.140 Sad.
00:13:59.620 And I remember the first time they said the first chief of staff that Trump had,
00:14:03.780 the doors were always open.
00:14:05.520 And I don't know if you remember how she asked for the job.
00:14:08.640 Do you remember what Susie said before accepting the job?
00:14:11.020 You don't remember what she said before accepting the job two and a half years ago?
00:14:14.020 You should remember this.
00:14:14.880 She said, I will only take this job if you give me power to know who has access to you or not.
00:14:21.620 Because the first chief of staff had too much accessibility to you.
00:14:25.140 I wouldn't make you too accessible.
00:14:26.820 Everybody has to go through me.
00:14:28.120 And apparently Trump said yes.
00:14:30.700 Yeah.
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00:15:01.700 Apparently Trump said yes, and that's how she got the job.
00:15:04.460 So, you know, Susie's father is a—you know who Susie's father was?
00:15:08.340 No.
00:15:09.300 Tom, you know who Susie's father was?
00:15:11.380 Summerall?
00:15:12.780 Coach Summerall?
00:15:13.380 Like, she's part of a – can you type in who Susie Wiles' father was?
00:15:17.060 Pat Summerall?
00:15:17.940 Can you pull up who was Susie Wiles' father?
00:15:20.640 Can you type in father?
00:15:21.920 F-A-T-H-E-R. 0.78
00:15:22.800 Yeah, there you go.
00:15:23.820 Pat Summerall?
00:15:24.880 Pat Summerall.
00:15:25.600 Oh, I know who he is.
00:15:26.660 That's her father.
00:15:28.100 Former NFL Giants.
00:15:30.680 Yeah, Pat Summerall was her father.
00:15:33.700 That's so random.
00:15:34.840 It is.
00:15:35.180 So she's been in the limelight.
00:15:37.240 She's been out there.
00:15:38.160 She's probably had somebody that challenged her to say,
00:15:41.180 here's what it is to be mentally tough, emotionally tough, all this other stuff.
00:15:44.360 So I would like to lean towards positive, but this doesn't look good for Suzy, obviously.
00:15:49.700 And it's not the first, Pat, like if you think about just right now in the administration,
00:15:53.040 you have all that stuff that's happening.
00:15:55.460 Alina Habba with her, like, I don't like all that.
00:16:00.120 This is the Kim Kardashian playbook though.
00:16:02.340 And I will tell you what the Kim Kardashian playbook is.
00:16:04.640 Anybody the Kardashians dated right before the divorce happens,
00:16:08.960 the Kardashians would go to the media and drop dirt on Kanye, 1.00
00:16:12.760 drop dirt on Humphrey, drop dirt on all the husbands.
00:16:16.060 So the media sympathizes with who?
00:16:19.500 With the Kardashians.
00:16:20.820 Oh, my God.
00:16:22.000 Poor girl.
00:16:22.500 How did you deal with that?
00:16:23.900 Yeah.
00:16:24.500 Remember that one interview with Mike Tyson where Robin Givens is sitting there
00:16:28.200 and all of a sudden is like, what the hell just happened?
00:16:30.860 Barbara Walter.
00:16:32.040 You know, Mike's got a bipolar.
00:16:34.280 He's got a bad person.
00:16:35.340 He's got such a bad temper.
00:16:36.740 And her mom.
00:16:37.140 He deals with anger issues.
00:16:38.960 And Mike is sitting there saying, what?
00:16:41.240 Yeah, what did you say?
00:16:42.060 But they set him up.
00:16:43.660 Of course they did.
00:16:44.060 So you just got to know there's a little bit, you know, you got to be,
00:16:46.840 I'm just glad that what Callie said is the fact that Trump wasn't in on some of these things.
00:16:51.320 Even in the 60-minute interview, remember when the guy brought up Area 51 and aliens,
00:16:54.980 and he said, you know, there are some stories that they say that even you as the presidents don't know.
00:16:58.740 He says, really, I'm not aware.
00:16:59.800 As a matter of fact, that's going to be one of the first phone calls I'm going to make after this meeting.
00:17:02.820 So meaning that sometimes presidents don't even know what's going on.
00:17:05.420 This lady sees me. 0.81
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00:17:06.920 I agree with the hat you have on.
00:17:08.960 She's not a fan.
00:17:10.160 She said, I also believe the future looks bright.
00:17:12.080 I said, I do as well.
00:17:13.320 I want to make sure everybody out there sees the message of future looks bright.
00:17:18.100 You know what look I love?
00:17:19.120 When people are confused and they say, you really believe the future?
00:17:22.240 That's my favorite people when they say that.
00:17:23.960 You really believe the future looks bright?
00:17:25.700 I really believe the future looks bright.
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