Valuetainment - January 18, 2026


＂Rogan's REALLY Bad Take＂ - ICE Critics SLAMMED As Trump THREATENS Insurrection Act


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Rob and Anne discuss Joe Rogan's comparison of ICE detainers to the Gestapo. They also discuss why the Democratic Party has no platform, and why they should be mad at Trump for being number one in the polls.

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00:00:00.000 Here's Joe Rogan talking about what it looks like on TV, what it's looking like to the average person that's watching it.
00:00:05.740 Go ahead, Rob.
00:00:06.880 You don't want militarized people in the streets just roaming around, snatching people up,
00:00:12.200 many of which turn out to actually be U.S. citizens that just don't have their papers on them.
00:00:16.520 Are we really going to be the Gestapo? Where's your papers? Is that what we've come to?
00:00:21.960 Anne, what do you think about what Joe said there?
00:00:24.680 I'm just horrified that my party is so bereft of Hollywood celebrities.
00:00:30.000 They will latch on to someone who was a janitor in a 1970s sitcom and make him into this hero. 1.00
00:00:37.580 I've always thought Joe Rogan is a moron. 0.97
00:00:40.660 If young men are looking for a masculine podcast, I would definitely recommend this one over that. 0.99
00:00:47.860 I mean, his claim to fame is he was first, so he gets interesting interviewees.
00:00:54.140 But if the people he's talking to are interesting, he's not interesting.
00:00:58.100 You don't think Joe is interesting?
00:00:59.120 No. 0.99
00:00:59.360 No, and I think what he just said was utterly beyond moronic. 0.91
00:01:03.040 Have you ever met him? Have you guys ever— 0.75
00:01:03.640 In fact, you've just—I mean, I think you just demolished what he said there.
00:01:08.480 I think everybody has this idea.
00:01:10.960 They've been saying this since 2015 about Trump.
00:01:14.600 Oh, which reminds me—I make fun of it in my book, In Trump We Trust, all of these op-eds in 1930s.
00:01:21.220 We're back to this, and he's comparing this to the Gestapo, as I just pointed out earlier.
00:01:26.000 The one part of the Arizona law that was upheld by the Supreme Court was what liberals were all saying.
00:01:33.560 Oh, it's papers, please. It's papers.
00:01:35.420 No, it's reasonable cause.
00:01:37.420 We're looking for illegal aliens. 1.00
00:01:39.000 Of course you can consider accents, ability to speak English, what someone looks like.
00:01:46.780 That is part of the many things they are looking at.
00:01:49.620 And the idea that they're pulling aside citizens, it's less than 1% of citizens who have even been briefly detained.
00:01:58.560 It means it's less than 1% fraud as opposed to 10% fraud in these feed-your-families programs.
00:02:06.900 If you don't mind—
00:02:08.020 I actually have the numbers, so in the past—great point—and in the last 12 months, there have been 100—this is one year—
00:02:15.400 170 confirmed instances in which an American citizen was temporarily or improperly detained by ICE, okay?
00:02:22.440 In that same time frame, there have been approximately 622,000 forced deportations, okay?
00:02:30.380 So, Anne, to your point, this puts ICE's improper temporary detention rate at 0.027.
00:02:37.720 So, in other words, ICE is doing a fantastic job and has a 99.973% success rate, okay?
00:02:45.560 And I respect Joe, but for saying the Gestapo and stuff, it's like they've caught the Gestapo bug.
00:02:50.720 You know why? Because during Obama, you never saw it.
00:02:54.440 CNN never showed it. MSNBC never showed it. Fox never—nobody ever aired this stuff, okay?
00:03:00.680 And just to add on top of it, Trump wants to be number one, so he has to catch Obama, which got 5 million out.
00:03:06.240 At this pace, he's not going to do it.
00:03:07.840 The Department of Homeland Security has publicly claimed that 1.9 undocumented illegal immigrants have voluntarily self-deported, okay, since Trump took offense.
00:03:19.400 If you know it's coming, I know it's hard, you have to leave.
00:03:23.560 Trump is enforcing the law. He didn't make the law, okay?
00:03:27.260 Yeah, please add 1.9 million. You didn't say million.
00:03:29.000 So, 1.9 million. I'm sorry, 1.9 million people were like, you know what?
00:03:32.580 They're coming. Let me leave, get my stuff together, and potentially come back the right way.
00:03:36.560 I don't see the problem.
00:03:37.900 Because think about it. Trump's kicking ass—sorry for my language—on every other aspect. 0.99
00:03:42.300 This is the one thing they have to do. You know why? 0.99
00:03:44.940 What is the Democratic Party running on?
00:03:47.800 What is—Gavin Newsom was yesterday on with Ben Shapiro.
00:03:51.620 He has nothing. It's just lie after lie after lie.
00:03:55.420 This is all they run on is hatred for us. It's hatred for us.
00:03:59.200 Gestapo, Hitler. It's like, it's enough. Enough.
00:04:02.340 Emotion and outrage are absent, and they don't have a platform.
00:04:05.120 There's no platform. They have no policy. They have nothing.
00:04:07.540 They have no leaders. They have nothing.
00:04:09.180 Well, I think this was a really bad take by Joe Rogan, but that doesn't mean he's a bad person.
00:04:14.620 In fact, respectfully, he's the GOAT of podcasting.
00:04:18.700 So you said his claim to fame, he was first.
00:04:21.240 Touche, the great Ann Coulter.
00:04:24.020 He's still first.
00:04:25.520 Remember when we were with Rogan, and he goes,
00:04:27.640 listen, I'm number one in 92 countries.
00:04:31.200 That's a big difference between being number 92 in one country.
00:04:35.560 So the challenge that Rogan will have is he's so good, and he's so big.
00:04:40.420 One bad take, and this was a bad take, respectfully, Mr. Rogan.
00:04:44.360 It's going to get amplified.
00:04:45.500 Even the White House responds.
00:04:47.660 But overall, he's the GOAT in the podcasting space.
00:04:50.740 He's still number one.
00:04:51.860 And he's going to, you know, give him a little grace to make some mistakes.
00:04:55.340 I would love to see him walk that back.
00:04:57.020 When I had a guy came to my place, Tom, you'll remember this.
00:05:03.000 He sent me this offer.
00:05:04.440 He says, please take this to the president.
00:05:06.980 Tom Holman, they need to see this.
00:05:09.620 He said, for you to be able to deport 10 million people,
00:05:13.700 here's what the budget's going to be.
00:05:15.700 You need people that are going to be finding folks.
00:05:18.280 You need trucks.
00:05:19.640 You need this.
00:05:20.240 He said, it's going to take you 700.
00:05:21.820 He gave a massive number of what it was going to take.
00:05:24.360 Okay, great.
00:05:25.200 But when they started saying, we're going to deport, 0.91
00:05:28.440 we're going to, you know, get rid of all these illegal immigrants, 1.00
00:05:31.320 the first thing I went to is people that are emotional, 0.98
00:05:35.420 that are just like regular people that are going to watch the content.
00:05:40.080 You know how much great content is going to be produced
00:05:43.060 to show how evil the current regime is,
00:05:47.060 and they're taking them back to their country 0.95
00:05:48.580 and separating them from their family,
00:05:50.900 and look how cold they are, and look how this they are.
00:05:53.440 So the average person, no matter who you are,
00:05:55.900 who is not studying the numbers, who is not looking into this closely,
00:05:59.100 is going to look at that and is going to say,
00:06:00.560 I cannot believe we're doing this.
00:06:02.320 And then you study history,
00:06:03.840 and then you're explaining the history of insurrection,
00:06:06.460 what Eisenhower did, what Kennedy did, Alabama, all this stuff.
00:06:09.720 And then somebody goes and looks at the history,
00:06:10.980 it's like, wait a minute.
00:06:12.220 We've been doing this for many, many times.
00:06:14.200 You have to do this to keep the American people safe.
00:06:16.080 But I do believe because it's such an emotional situation
00:06:21.520 that even the best and the brightest can fall for it and say,
00:06:26.020 this is not fair.
00:06:27.260 And millions will say, that's what we need.
00:06:29.600 We need more people like this that are empathetic.
00:06:31.520 But the reality of it is,
00:06:32.820 how many people it's going to take to do the next 9-11?
00:06:35.300 Go ahead and let's figure out right now this year,
00:06:40.420 what's coming up this year in June, July.
00:06:42.700 Hey, I heard it's our 250th birthday, baby.
00:06:44.680 But hang on a second.
00:06:46.160 World Cup is coming here.
00:06:47.320 Oh, that too.
00:06:47.760 Okay?
00:06:48.420 So let one massive event take place.
00:06:53.860 Let Munich, you thought what happened with Munich,
00:06:56.260 you know, let something like that happen here.
00:06:59.420 And then it's an illegal immigrant that came here, 1.00
00:07:01.720 not from Mexico, not from Guatemala, not from El Salvador.
00:07:05.200 But let's just say this person came from the Middle East,
00:07:07.220 boom, boom.
00:07:08.360 And then they do something.
00:07:09.320 Then thousands of people die.
00:07:10.580 Then we have to stop the World Cup.
00:07:12.200 Then we have to stop the games.
00:07:13.520 And then who's going to be looking at the same thing?
00:07:15.780 Oh, you know what?
00:07:16.740 All that stuff you were doing on the streets.
00:07:18.380 Why didn't you do more of it?
00:07:20.200 Trump should have cleaned house better.
00:07:21.940 You should have been more proactive.
00:07:23.740 Oh, now you're saying that?
00:07:25.080 Yep.
00:07:25.240 And the problem, I was in the insurance space for 25 years.
00:07:28.340 When you sell life insurance,
00:07:30.540 the average person you talk to with life insurance,
00:07:33.440 and you say, like, I remember when I told my dad,
00:07:35.660 I'm getting to the insurance space.
00:07:37.080 He says, how does this work?
00:07:38.180 I said, you pay $100 every month,
00:07:40.720 but if you die, the insurance company will give you $250,000.
00:07:43.980 He says, you believe this America company pay you $250,000?
00:07:47.660 So I pay $100 three months.
00:07:50.080 That's $300.
00:07:51.300 A company called AIG is going to pay me $250,000?
00:07:55.040 You're crazy if you believe it, right?
00:07:56.940 Of course. 0.99
00:07:57.520 The average person.
00:07:58.640 But the reality of it is, you know how many times we had a client
00:08:00.840 that paid a couple premiums,
00:08:02.280 and they were dealing with a $500,000 policy?
00:08:04.400 So many times.
00:08:05.400 Yes.
00:08:05.580 So many times.
00:08:06.700 You don't buy insurance because you're going to die tomorrow.
00:08:09.760 You buy in case.
00:08:11.200 We have to be very proactive with this.
00:08:13.320 I'm glad he's doing it.
00:08:14.700 But I also get you can fall for the emotional videos
00:08:17.760 and sit there and say, what an evil thing that we're doing.
00:08:20.280 We don't have to do this.
00:08:21.100 I get that.
00:08:21.780 To expand on your point, yes, the media is very powerful,
00:08:26.940 and yes, a lot of people are, I think, falling for this.
00:08:29.420 On the other hand, I don't quite believe the polls.
00:08:32.680 I mean, the original polls from the New York Times and places like that
00:08:36.200 were that the vast majority of Americans wanted Trump to deport all illegal aliens.
00:08:43.140 New York Times published this like six months.
00:08:44.560 It was 60-plus percent of you, if I remember correctly.
00:08:46.500 All.
00:08:47.040 Criminal or not.
00:08:48.140 And as with life insurance, somebody dying, there are a lot of Molly Tibbetts out there. 0.99
00:08:56.120 There are a lot of families who have been not only had children or relatives murdered
00:09:00.980 or killed in drunk driving accidents, but victims of 9-11.
00:09:05.680 That was an immigration problem. 1.00
00:09:07.120 Who, whose neighborhoods have been overtaken, whose pets are being eaten, or whatever.
00:09:15.180 They're eating the dogs.
00:09:16.820 And it goes out in concentric circles.
00:09:19.460 It doesn't have to be you whose child died.
00:09:24.120 That whole neighborhood knows about that child.
00:09:26.440 And I think there are a lot of Americans who are not as vocal as some of those on the left
00:09:32.720 who are looking at this and saying, I don't care.
00:09:34.700 I don't care.
00:09:35.360 Just get them out.
00:09:36.900 Biden brought in 20 million.
00:09:38.460 We got to get them out.
00:09:40.080 By the way, I want to show something.
00:09:41.660 Sure.
00:09:42.260 Rob, can you do me a favor?
00:09:43.760 Find a clip of Caroline Levitt talking to this reporter.
00:09:47.480 I love this.
00:09:48.060 Everybody has to watch this.
00:09:50.060 Watch this clip here, folks.
00:09:51.760 From the top rope.
00:09:52.580 Good.
00:09:52.900 I'm unfortunately and tragically killed.
00:09:54.940 Are you asking me my opinion?
00:09:57.460 Because an ICE agent acted recklessly and killed it unjustifiable.
00:10:00.520 Oh, okay.
00:10:01.080 So you're a biased reporter with a left-wing opinion.
00:10:03.740 What do you want me to do?
00:10:04.660 Yeah, because you're a left-wing hack.
00:10:06.720 You're not a reporter.
00:10:07.640 You're posing in this room as a journalist.
00:10:09.560 And it's so clear by the premise of your question.
00:10:12.060 And you and the people in the media who have such biases but fake, like you're a journalist,
00:10:17.000 you shouldn't even be sitting in that seat.
00:10:18.980 But you're pretending that you're a journalist but you're a left-wing activist.
00:10:21.840 And the question that you just raised and your answer proves your bias.
00:10:26.100 You should be reporting on the facts.
00:10:28.100 You should be reporting on the cases.
00:10:29.600 Do you have the numbers of how many American citizens were killed at the hands of illegal aliens
00:10:34.000 who ICE is trying to remove from this country?
00:10:36.060 I bet you don't.
00:10:37.300 I bet you didn't even read up on those stories.
00:10:39.060 I bet you never even read about Lake and Riley or Jocelyn Nungere or all of the innocent Americans
00:10:43.620 who were killed at the hands of illegal aliens in this country.
00:10:47.020 And the brave men and women of ICE are doing everything in their power to remove those heinous individuals
00:10:52.200 and make our communities safer.
00:10:54.120 And shame on people like you in the media who have a crooked view.
00:10:58.500 I could watch it all day.
00:10:59.200 And have a biased view and pretend like you're a real honest journalist.
00:11:03.240 Why was that?
00:11:03.720 Wow.
00:11:04.760 Go ahead.
00:11:05.160 Can I react to that? 0.83
00:11:05.900 By the way, Caroline Levin is a straight, verbal, assassin gangster. 1.00
00:11:10.880 And I mean that in the highest possible way.
00:11:13.400 You know, one of us, I won't name names, was joking backstage.
00:11:17.200 He's like, well, that's why I don't think women should be in power or leadership. 1.00
00:11:20.340 Here's exhibit A that that gentleman didn't know what he was talking about
00:11:23.100 because there's Ann Coulters of the world and Caroline Levitz of the world
00:11:26.180 that just dismiss all your preconceived notions.
00:11:29.900 You know how when someone has a mic drop thing and they stop the video and sunglasses come in,
00:11:34.340 and they put a blunt in their mouth, and it's like, yeah, yeah, and it's a gangster thing?
00:11:37.920 She should have a hundred of those. 0.87
00:11:39.680 Caroline Levitz is a verbal gangster. 1.00
00:11:42.020 Thank you for doing what you're doing for America.
00:11:43.380 By the way, this is what Fetterman said about it.
00:11:44.640 Rob, if you want to go to Fetterman, I'll make this the last clip,
00:11:48.020 and then we'll move on to the next story.
00:11:49.700 This is Fetterman.
00:11:50.940 Go ahead, Rob.
00:11:51.420 And it was skyrocketing, you know, and it's like, that's unsustainable.
00:11:56.720 When you reach almost 300,000 people, that's unsustainable.
00:12:00.440 And we need to, you know, as a Democrat, it shouldn't be unreasonable
00:12:03.820 to want to secure our border and do it in that way.
00:12:07.440 And now let's also, let's also talk about ICE.
00:12:10.560 Now, absolutely, again, what happened in Minneapolis was absolutely tragic.
00:12:14.640 And then now, if you think, now, this is from the Washington Post.
00:12:19.200 You know, this is the latest statistics.
00:12:21.980 These are people that ICE now are, it's like, no, 67% have criminal charges,
00:12:31.720 pending ones, or that, so that's more than two-thirds, you know, the people now.
00:12:37.040 Now, there are some people that aren't involved in any kinds of illegal things.
00:12:41.560 You know, but so me, I think two things can be true.
00:12:43.960 You know, round up all the criminals, deport them.
00:12:47.520 They shouldn't have ever been here, and they definitely have to go.
00:12:50.920 And now, I don't know, want to see more and more things happening in Minneapolis now, too.
00:12:55.600 So, two things must be true.
00:12:57.880 And I strongly reject the extreme on either side, you know, about this now.
00:13:02.820 So, we must be true.
00:13:04.760 And, you know, I watched your heard.
00:13:06.060 It's pretty wild that he is becoming a voice of reason.
00:13:09.140 Isn't that crazy?
00:13:10.460 Him.
00:13:10.780 It took one injury, and he's back to normal.
00:13:14.600 God bless him.
00:13:15.940 And at the end of the day, this is what drives me crazy, because, Tom, I know you want to say something, and he wants to move on.
00:13:20.780 When you have the mayor and the governor and Ilhan Omar calling to action, get in their faces, do this,
00:13:30.020 and then something like this happens, where is the accountability?
00:13:34.080 You want to talk about Insurrection Act?
00:13:35.540 When they said Donald Trump told them to go and go in there and want to know, this is what they're doing,
00:13:40.480 and there has to be accountability for you sending in the troops, and then one of the troops gets killed,
00:13:46.080 and then it's like, no, no, no, we have nothing to do with it.
00:13:49.000 What were you going to say, Tom?
00:13:50.220 What I was going to say is there's a case study on this if we want to really look at it, and it's called Portland, Oregon.
00:13:54.720 And Portland, Oregon had all of these police officers defund the police, defund the police.
00:14:00.300 Police officers took early retirement.
00:14:02.420 Police officers went to other parts of the country being paid a partial pension on Portland because they retired,
00:14:08.740 and then they became police officers elsewhere.
00:14:12.420 Today in Portland, Oregon, the voters are asking to refund, not pay back, but let's fund the police.
00:14:20.200 There is a shortage of 200 officers in Portland, Oregon today.
00:14:24.920 The people feel less safe.
00:14:26.840 The people are concerned about it.
00:14:28.620 You can see it in bipartisan polling.
00:14:31.140 There's the case study.
00:14:32.480 There's where this ends.
00:14:33.640 This ends years later because we're now four years later in Portland, Oregon,
00:14:37.660 without adequate police and with an insecure populace.
00:14:40.780 They're looking around and saying, what the hell happened?
00:14:43.280 There's the case study.
00:14:44.160 I just want to give a shout-out to John Fetterman and all the other Democrats that have been supporting John.
00:14:50.160 Oh, none are?
00:14:51.580 Zero?
00:14:52.300 No one else in the Democratic Party?
00:14:54.460 So one thing he said is so important.
00:14:56.100 He goes, two things can be true at once.
00:14:59.000 So for John Fetterman, you can be a Democrat but also have common sense.
00:15:03.480 Unfortunately, it starts and stops with John Fetterman.
00:15:07.520 Yeah.
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00:15:15.280 Thank you, Pat.
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