Valuetainment - August 14, 2025


＂Technocrats At War＂ - Musk & Altman Feud EXPLODES Over AI Anti-Trust Battle


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Elon Musk and Sam Altman engage in a fierce war of words on AI. Elon threatens to sue Apple, and Altman responds. Meanwhile, Elon is running some sort of Nazi propaganda machine on Gronk.

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00:00:00.000 Elon Musk and Sam Altman, they engage in a fierce war of words on X.
00:00:04.320 All you need to know, so Elon threatens to sue Apple.
00:00:08.340 Rob, if you have this one here, Elon threatens to sue Apple.
00:00:11.800 Apple is behaving in a manner that makes it impossible for any AI company besides OpenAI
00:00:17.760 to reach number one in the App Store, which is an unequivocal antitrust violation.
00:00:24.640 XAI will take immediate legal action.
00:00:28.240 Now, here's a reader's added content.
00:00:30.880 Rob, what's the reader saying just one month ago on July 18th?
00:00:33.940 Perplexedly reached number one overall in India's App Store.
00:00:38.180 January 2025, DeepSeek reached number one overall on App Store.
00:00:41.180 Both of these occurred over after the OpenAI-Apple partnership announced on June 10th of 2024.
00:00:46.480 So maybe there's a correlation between the two.
00:00:48.740 So then, Altman responds.
00:00:50.760 And here's what Altman has to say about what's going on,
00:00:53.980 because this is a real war going on right now.
00:00:56.980 And it's the AI war.
00:00:58.240 And they know who the most powerful person apparently is, whoever they're suing, which is who?
00:01:04.020 Apple.
00:01:04.540 Apple.
00:01:04.840 Apple controls who's getting the love, who's getting the traffic, who's getting all of it going to them.
00:01:10.520 And Sam Altman comes out and says, wait a minute, you keep coming after us.
00:01:15.340 But how about the fact that, do you see this one here?
00:01:18.060 Sam Altman.
00:01:19.080 This is a remarkable claim, given that what I heard alleged that Elon does to manipulate X to benefit himself and his own companies and harm his competitors and people he doesn't like.
00:01:30.300 So Sam is coming back and saying, wait a minute, you bought X and everything favors you, Musk.
00:01:34.680 Musk, you got three million views on your bullshit post, you liar, far more than I received on many of mine, despite me having 50 times your follower count.
00:01:42.400 Will you sign an affidavit that you have never directed changes to the X algorithm in a way that has hurt your competitors or helped your own companies?
00:01:51.600 I will apologize if so.
00:01:53.420 Did Elon respond back to that?
00:01:54.560 I did not see a response.
00:01:55.620 Okay.
00:01:56.200 So obviously there's a back and forth going between these two guys.
00:01:59.200 And it's a true war.
00:02:00.420 It's a true fight that's taking place.
00:02:01.920 People are watching it firsthand on what's going on here.
00:02:04.440 Adam, what are your thoughts on this story?
00:02:06.940 So brace for impact.
00:02:08.160 This is going to be the tech overlords who are going to be running our lives for the next, not four, not 10, not 20, 40 years.
00:02:14.380 Remember the tweet that Elon Musk said about Donald Trump?
00:02:18.620 He goes, listen, you got him for another three and a half years.
00:02:20.420 You're going to have me for another 40 years.
00:02:22.680 By the way, Sam Altman and ChatGPT and Gronk and Elon are going, this might be the tech overlords for the next 400 years.
00:02:29.280 It's pretty scary.
00:02:30.260 As far as their personal relationships, forget about the companies, forget about what they're doing with AI.
00:02:35.100 This is personal.
00:02:36.020 This is competitive.
00:02:36.960 And this is going to get ugly and nasty.
00:02:40.120 Sam Altman is number one in terms of AI.
00:02:42.640 Why?
00:02:43.880 ChatGPT.
00:02:44.800 ChatGPT.
00:02:45.820 Meanwhile, Elon Musk is running some sort of Nazi propaganda.
00:02:50.420 Machine over there on Gronk.
00:02:52.060 Not my opinion.
00:02:53.040 I pronounce it Gronk, not Gronk.
00:02:54.700 Good.
00:02:54.880 All right.
00:02:55.140 There we go right there.
00:02:56.400 But the thing is this.
00:02:57.920 Elon is not used to being number five.
00:02:59.840 He's suing him because Gronk is number five on the App Store.
00:03:04.440 ChatGPT is number one.
00:03:05.340 There's a couple other companies that I guess are above Gronk in there.
00:03:09.660 But Elon is obviously competitive and he's not used to not being number one, not number
00:03:13.620 two, not number three, number five in this regard.
00:03:16.640 So they've had it.
00:03:17.280 They've had a few mistakes with Gronk that's been public.
00:03:19.960 Yeah.
00:03:20.340 And it's a few royally big mistakes.
00:03:22.580 Big time.
00:03:23.740 They've been glitching like crazy.
00:03:25.380 And listen, if you we all saw the story about the Nazism. 0.57
00:03:28.920 Listen, I use ChatGPT for this reason.
00:03:32.020 I get enough hate comments on YouTube.
00:03:33.680 I don't need to go to Gronk to be reminded about how hateful people are.
00:03:38.220 But the reality is this.
00:03:40.460 Sam Altman is number one in the AI world and Elon is fighting for his place at the table.
00:03:46.840 We're going to see how nasty this thing's going to get.
00:03:48.660 Last point.
00:03:50.140 This whole Apple being sort of the guard of what's able to go on.
00:03:55.140 Do you remember in 2020 who sued Apple for what they were doing with the App Store?
00:04:00.740 Remember it was a company called Epic?
00:04:02.560 They're the owners or company that does Fortnite.
00:04:08.380 Remember they were suing Apple over the 30%.
00:04:11.660 There it is, right?
00:04:12.680 There's that what you can charge on the App Store.
00:04:15.540 Apple is the tech overlord.
00:04:17.280 And everyone's trying to become number one on Apple on the App Store.
00:04:20.900 And right now it's Sam Altman.
00:04:22.360 And Elon is just sort of crying like Justin Timberlake.
00:04:26.660 Tom, your thoughts?
00:04:27.620 I agree with what Adam said about the tech bros.
00:04:29.860 And right now the tech bros are probably happy to see Sam Altman and Elon fighting.
00:04:36.280 You want to know why?
00:04:37.300 Because Meta and Google, you know, what have they been doing?
00:04:41.540 No, they've been completely innocent.
00:04:43.160 They don't do shadow bans of content they don't like.
00:04:45.500 They don't do things and push people back on Vax and then completely suppress your video.
00:04:50.420 They didn't suppress the laptop story on Hunter Biden.
00:04:53.360 They didn't move political things and weight them differently.
00:04:56.500 They didn't manipulate the teenage girls on Meta and causing them to see more stuff that was actually harmful to them.
00:05:04.100 They knew what it was doing.
00:05:04.940 No, no, they've never done that.
00:05:06.060 Google has never modified ad weights on AdSense or let things show up differently.
00:05:11.580 Never, never.
00:05:12.760 The tech bros haven't done this.
00:05:14.480 So what Elon Musk is doing, did he gerrymander some outcomes for his own?
00:05:21.360 Maybe he did.
00:05:22.240 Nice callback right there.
00:05:23.040 Maybe he did.
00:05:24.060 And maybe Altman is saying, sign an affidavit.
00:05:26.860 But everybody else has gerrymandered results in tech.
00:05:30.220 That is the danger of tech, and that's why tech needs competition to keep it honest because you look at this, this happens all across the board, even to the point of people getting really harmed as we look back when the tech bros were taking their cues from the federal government.
00:05:46.040 And you know what's interesting while we're talking about this?
00:05:48.580 You know who just bought a company from Google for $34, $35 billion, Rob?
00:05:54.340 Do you have that story?
00:05:55.760 I don't know if you guys heard this or not.
00:05:57.500 Oh, is this a story where they're attempting to buy it?
00:05:59.680 Did they actually buy it for like $30 billion?
00:06:01.060 They're attempting to buy AI startup Perplexity offers to buy Google's Chrome browser for $34.5 billion.
00:06:09.240 You know Chrome?
00:06:10.240 They use Chrome.
00:06:11.120 Yeah, I'm on it right now.
00:06:12.160 Perplexity is wanting to buy Google's Chrome for $34.5 billion.
00:06:17.320 Here's the issue I got with this is, why is Google selling?
00:06:21.800 Why do you need to sell?
00:06:23.400 Why would you sell?
00:06:24.200 Pending antitrust decision where they're going to be forced to give up AdSense or Chrome.
00:06:30.560 So it's one of the two.
00:06:32.120 So if I have to give up one of the two, I'm going to sell the Chrome browser to Perplexity.
00:06:37.360 Or maybe.
00:06:37.800 So you can't come for me on Monopoly and antitrust and all the other items.
00:06:40.740 Or maybe it's not being offered.
00:06:42.000 Perplexity is just saying, hey, the federal government are going to cause you to sell something, Pat.
00:06:45.940 I'll tell you what.
00:06:46.480 I'll offer you $30 billion for Chrome.
00:06:47.680 Let me ask you a question.
00:06:49.000 You're telling me, how much you think this is an offer that was made without Google being aware of this offer?
00:06:53.780 Was it a knock at the, I think it could be a knock at the door offer.
00:06:57.520 It's like, hey.
00:06:58.360 You think?
00:06:58.800 Yeah, I don't think Google went out and got a banker on this.
00:07:01.500 A $34 billion knock on the door.
00:07:03.560 Perplexity and AI startup made an unsolicited offer to buy Google's Chrome for $34.5 billion.
00:07:10.080 With his chief executive, Arvandis, stating in a letter to Pichai, chief executive of Google parent company, Alphabet,
00:07:16.740 that the offer was designed to satisfy an antitrust remedy in highest public interest by placing Chrome with a capable independent operator.
00:07:25.060 The bid comes as Judge Amit Mahta, U.S. district ruling expected as early as this week could face Google to sell Chrome to reduce its dominance
00:07:33.060 and the internet search perplexedly valued at $18 billion has backing from outside investors for the potential deal,
00:07:40.460 according to Jesse Dyer, a spokesperson.
00:07:44.580 The Justice Department has pushed for Google to divest Chrome, arguing that Google's monopoly controlling about 90% of the search market requires forceful antitrust changes
00:07:54.080 to foster competition with David Dalquist, the government's lead litigator, stating this court's remedy should be forward-looking
00:08:00.780 and not ignore what's on the horizon, and Google is using the same strategy that they did for search and now applying it to Gemini.
00:08:07.980 Wow.
00:08:10.180 Unbelievable.
00:08:10.980 So what a brilliant move, Tom, right?
00:08:14.360 If you think about it.
00:08:15.160 It's like, hey, we know you're getting pressure on antitrust.
00:08:18.460 Let us just make an offer without anybody knowing.
00:08:21.080 Now it's public.
00:08:22.020 So the government may say, well, wait a minute.
00:08:23.400 We have an offer on the table from Perplexity, and they're qualified.
00:08:26.020 So you have something that you're dealing with.
00:08:27.780 That's right.
00:08:28.080 And the government can say, well, maybe you should take that because I'm breaking you up.
00:08:31.880 Who do you think could be potential other buys outside of them?
00:08:35.140 Well, it's very, very interesting because everybody's looking for a dance partner, and the odd man out is Apple.
00:08:40.880 What is Meta doing?
00:08:42.080 They're grabbing everybody's people for the superintelligence lab.
00:08:46.840 That's their play.
00:08:47.640 They've been stealing guys from Apple.
00:08:49.380 Well, we're not really going to do things at Apple.
00:08:51.660 So tell you what.
00:08:52.360 I'll take $10 million worth of stock that could be worth $100 million.
00:08:56.080 That's how those big offers have been calculated.
00:08:58.460 So you have Meta trying to get a place.
00:09:00.200 Google is betting on Gemini and is sitting there with its ass in court waiting to be broke up like this.
00:09:07.420 Autopilot is already over there at Microsoft.
00:09:09.760 And by the way, if you're scoring at home, Microsoft and NVIDIA are now 15% of the S&P 500, Pat.
00:09:15.220 Wow.
00:09:15.420 Oof, that's a little overweight there, right into it.
00:09:17.960 And then you get NVIDIA making the chips for AI.
00:09:20.300 Remember, this is an AI war going on.
00:09:22.480 And so there – and then you got OpenAI with ChatGBT by themselves.
00:09:27.320 So you see how these armies are being formed?
00:09:30.460 And so perplexity needs a broadcast mechanism.
00:09:35.400 And so it's going to go get Chrome.
00:09:37.360 Google has to get broken by the government.
00:09:39.760 They don't want to do it, but they've got to sell something to somebody.
00:09:41.800 They're going to be forced to.
00:09:42.800 And Google's got Gemini.
00:09:44.200 And Meta is stealing every engineer that's not nailed down to go for super intelligence lab. 0.83
00:09:49.400 So I just have a list right now.
00:09:50.240 It says OpenAI, potentially Apollo, Global Management, Yahoo, and maybe DuckDuckGo.
00:09:55.500 DuckDuckGo has expressed long-term interest in acquiring Chrome.
00:09:58.240 But DuckDuckGo, you're going to be able to raise that kind of money?
00:10:00.920 I don't know about that.
00:10:01.620 If they are, I mean, good for them.
00:10:02.940 But maybe just conversation.
00:10:05.600 Which one do you use?
00:10:06.460 You got Gemini, ChatGBT, perplexity.
00:10:10.040 You got DeepSea.
00:10:10.700 You got some dude named Claude out there that's giving you information in French.
00:10:14.160 I honestly – I do ChatGBT first, and then I do Grok just to see how different it is.
00:10:18.920 I don't know if I use Google at all.
00:10:21.900 Once in a blue moon?
00:10:22.800 I don't know if I use Google at all.
00:10:23.920 Once in a blue moon.
00:10:24.920 I think Google for me is less than 5%.
00:10:26.580 Bro, I'm still using Yahoo.
00:10:29.600 This is crazy out here.
00:10:30.660 Well, actually, interestingly here, I use perplexity first to get the deep search, and then I compare with ChatGBT and Gemini.
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00:13:10.660 Rob, what is the link for them to go to register for this?
00:13:12.880 Is there a link that you have for it?
00:13:14.300 It's actually pinned inside of the chat on YouTube.
00:13:17.560 Okay, but is there a link for it for people that only listen to audio?
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00:13:37.100 I'm looking forward to seeing many of you here.
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