Valuetainment - “That Looks Like an Explosion” - Candace Owens and Andrew Wilson Debate Charlie Kirk’s Death

00:00:00.480 Recently, our company's softball team lost the big game by one run.

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00:00:30.000 Do you think that Charlie Kirk was killed with an explosive?

00:00:33.240 I think that that is a possibility, yes.

00:00:36.300 Okay, good.

00:00:36.700 And it should be explored.

00:00:37.840 He's done a lot of work on it.

00:00:38.940 John Bray has done good work.

00:00:40.180 And I think that that's why that theory is now starting to gain steam.

00:00:44.660 Since we released the second set of the photos of what was in the car, I think it's viable.

00:00:50.000 So this was the big thing I wanted to get into with you on the explosives, too.

00:00:53.720 What is it about that theory that's actually compelling to you?

00:00:56.640 So I looked into the explosive mic theory multiple times,

00:01:00.080 and the biggest thing that stood out to me is there's no explosion.

00:01:04.880 There's literally no explosion.

00:01:06.680 In fact, there's videos when the shot rings out that kills Charlie.

00:01:12.400 At least it sounds like a shot to me.

00:01:14.140 People are actually, like, looking up towards where the gun is being fired.

00:01:19.580 They're looking away for where the sound is.

00:01:22.900 Like, where's the actual explosion?

00:01:25.000 Well, for every person that you say looks away,

00:01:27.360 there's going to be a person that was looking forward.

00:01:29.680 We have former Marines that have gotten on and said,

00:01:34.420 it looks to me like there's an explosion under his shirt, right?

00:01:36.640 You obviously saw Rob O'Neill go on to,

00:01:43.180 I'm forgetting which platform it was,

00:01:44.580 where he said the first thing I thought was-

00:01:46.680 Rob O'Neill is the man that killed Osama Bin Laden. 0.66

00:01:48.640 Yeah, and I think he's qualified to say what he believes he saw.

00:01:51.820 We should actually, since they're pulling clips,

00:01:53.760 we should run that clip of rob o'neill and what he said and what he observed in his experience

00:01:57.820 so i'm gonna take that and also there were people who tested like immediately spoke to the media

00:02:04.500 that day who said the same thing that they thought that something happened under a shirt that was

00:02:07.720 actually if you go back to like my first episode when i was just observing what i saw with my eyes

00:02:10.960 i was asking the serious question i was seriously saying why is it like somebody shot him from

00:02:15.420 underneath why is his shirt moving first that doesn't make sense to me and uh i'm not because

00:02:19.820 of air dispersal from the bullet so when uh when whenever a bullet is shot a projectile shot you

00:02:26.400 can actually run this experiment yourself if you have a rifle take like an empty box of ammunition

00:02:30.920 and put it on the table and then fire it near the muzzle and that box will actually blow off the

00:02:36.540 table okay so question for you does that box go sideways off the table it can it can yeah you can

00:02:44.200 it depends on the dispersal you three thousand pounds of energy or two thousand pounds of energy

00:02:48.860 coming at you that's how much it carries well it's not 2 000 pounds of energy well we can fact

00:02:53.220 check that how many how many how many pounds of energy is it a 30-06 uh being shot 150 yards away

00:02:59.420 that's a great question for grok i'm gonna say when we looked at it it was between 1500 and 2000

00:03:03.720 i'm pretty sure pounds of energy coming at you and you just go upward into the side i don't really

00:03:08.980 buy that i mean and i'm gonna just say i just think that that's not right but possible doesn't

00:03:13.680 go through on top of that so there's another miracle you didn't get blown backwards you

00:03:16.540 didn't go through. But I also want to say that

00:03:18.640 you're saying this can happen, and Rob O'Neill

00:03:20.540 is infinitely more qualified, I think, to speak

00:03:22.640 on that. Why?

00:03:24.500 Well, because he's actually shot and 0.56

00:03:26.540 killed people. Why would that have anything to do with

00:03:28.600 anything? Did he slow

00:03:30.700 down all the videos of the people he shot to see if

00:03:32.600 their clothes moved?

00:03:34.460 Well, why are you able to assert your

00:03:36.080 because I'm going to tell you

00:03:38.380 how projectiles were. He's not even going to

00:03:40.260 I guarantee you this guy's not even going to disagree with what I'm about

00:03:42.540 to say. If it is the case

00:03:44.580 that you have energy

00:03:45.880 and you have mass and the mass is moving in the air the air has to go somewhere it doesn't have

00:03:51.880 a choice i think you're like totally bsing right now man not only am i not bsing i'm telling you

00:03:58.220 the truth if a bullet is moving in air air has to move out of way of bullet but maybe not at the

00:04:04.160 bottom of a shirt here i don't know i i just i disagree with that i'd like to say for the record

00:04:07.700 i've watched some of you do these sorts of things where you assert something with a lot of confidence

00:04:11.900 and it's you can fact check it's complete your check if bullets displace air not about whether

00:04:16.980 it displays air it's where it dispersed the air underneath his shirt it's not underneath the

00:04:20.860 shirt well it's this big and you're telling me it's going to hit his neck and then it's not

00:04:24.200 underneath the shirt it starts up here and the collar's moving and then you see the wave here

00:04:29.040 as he's moving backwards no yeah that's not true it's not and we obviously can't show that clip

00:04:34.120 i disagree with you okay i understand you can't show it for tos purposes exactly uh i disagree

00:04:38.640 with you people can go watch and make up their own minds we don't need to debate it whether or

00:04:41.520 That was the first thing I said was, why is his shirt moving first?

00:04:44.660 That didn't make sense to me.

00:04:45.940 It almost looks just like this.

00:04:47.760 It goes across.

00:04:48.540 His necklace breaks first before Charlie even reacts.

00:04:51.380 If you watch it in slow, his necklace breaks first, which I thought was very odd.

00:04:55.400 And then you see a puff here.

00:04:57.000 And then the next thing you know, there's the entry wound on his neck.

00:05:01.400 I would not confidently assert that I see smoke.

00:05:04.280 I've never said it on my platform.

00:05:05.060 Do you think that an explosion generally has smoke?

00:05:06.700 I don't think that there's any quality version of video that would get us to be able to answer

00:05:13.080 that question other than Terrell's 4k footage that he has from the front so there's a lot of

00:05:17.340 if you look at the Israeli pagers it's assumed that it's a similar if not the same type of

00:05:23.280 explosive that was used inside the pagers that would have been used inside of this road mic

00:05:27.780 I think that you should since you love debating you should debate someone like John Bray who's

00:05:32.380 worked on that theory for 11 months and ask those sorts of questions of how a shape charge would

00:05:36.300 work uh i presented the evidence of what was in the car and i also at that episode that you're

00:05:41.480 clipping said john bray has done an unbelievable amount of work on this and i think he has debated

00:05:47.360 a ton of people actually regarding this topic so that's the route that i would send you on

00:05:52.040 for the purposes of my yeah for the purposes of my show i i do believe to answer your question

00:05:57.220 that it is a hypothetical i mean that it is a theory that should be thoroughly explored

00:06:02.200 There's two clips your team wants to show.

00:06:04.560 One of them is the Rob O'Neill clip since we're on it.

00:06:06.540 So if you guys are ready in the back before we go to ad break,

00:06:09.380 if you want to pull it up, this is a good time to do so.

00:06:11.980 Recently, our company softball team lost the big game by one run.

00:06:16.100 Then Dale tried to console us with the quote,

00:06:18.580 winning isn't everything.

00:06:20.460 Well, Dale and I are very different.

00:06:24.060 I get early payout from Bet365.

00:06:25.860 If my team goes up big, I get paid out instantly,

00:06:28.860 even if they blow the lead later.

00:06:30.460 sound familiar dale thanks beth 365 must be 19 or older ontario only please play responsibly if

00:06:36.680 you have questions or concerns about your gambling or the gambling of someone close to you please go

00:06:39.400 to connexontario.ca tnc supply i've been good to see general hold a lot of things bother me it

00:06:50.900 bothers me about this um nothing in particular it's not like i'm out there saying big lie or

00:06:57.300 conspiracy or someone did it i'm just saying i've been in a lot of shootings i've killed more than a

00:07:01.440 handful of people and this thing looked shady off the bat i mean just i've killed people closer than

00:07:07.280 i saw the camera and i've never seen a shirt move like that that looks like an explosion to me

00:07:11.740 the uh just the fact that no one started doing uh first aid to charlie kirk they were more

00:07:16.780 concerned about getting sim cards out of cameras removing cameras and then uh getting him off the

00:07:21.180 x somehow there didn't seem a lot of concern for it for his life it seemed like just clean it up

00:07:25.180 And then, I mean, I've been told they paved it over a couple days later.

00:07:28.760 And then you get Erica Kirk behind all the razzle-dazzle,

00:07:32.940 and she's really quick to forgive the alleged shooter,

00:07:35.660 which technically says that was him because I forgive him,

00:07:38.860 but then she can't forgive Candace Owens for having an opinion or asking questions. 0.76

00:07:42.240 And they mock people by saying, oh, I'm just asking questions.

00:07:44.940 Yeah, I'm a SEAL Team 6 sniper.

00:07:47.360 I'm asking a lot of questions.

00:07:48.580 No one wants to answer them.

00:07:49.800 And you're able to ask.

00:07:51.840 He's actually said very little about the explosive there.

00:07:55.080 I'm just saying he observed, he said he's shot people up close,

00:07:57.760 and he's never seen a shirt move like that,

00:07:59.800 and it looked to him like an explosive.

00:08:01.140 That's what he just said.

00:08:01.760 When I play that video at full speed, I can't see a shirt moving.

00:08:07.380 I can only see a shirt moving when we slow it way down.

00:08:10.400 So if I'm in real time, I'm just assuming this, right?

00:08:13.580 If I was in real time and I was in like a close quarters combat, 0.98

00:08:17.740 you kill somebody situation, and I shot them,

00:08:21.080 would you even see the shirt move? 0.98

00:08:23.180 Well, I just feel like five minutes ago,

00:08:25.260 you were arguing that it was because the bullet carried air.

00:08:27.520 Now you're saying you don't see the shirt move at all.

00:08:29.360 Yeah, but that's, if you slow it down,

00:08:32.140 the disbursement of air,

00:08:33.680 that's where you're going to see it, right?

00:08:35.140 It's going to be very quick.

00:08:36.580 Very, very, very, very fast.

00:08:38.000 Yeah, that's not what I saw.

00:08:39.320 And clearly it's not what he saw.

00:08:41.960 And he thinks that there could be an explosive.

00:08:43.400 So I'm just saying to you,

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00:09:41.980 Recently, our company's softball team lost the big game by one run.

00:09:45.940 Then Dale tried to console us with the quote, winning isn't everything.

00:09:50.580 Well, Dale and I are very different.

00:09:54.260 I get early payout from Bet365.

00:09:56.160 If my team goes up big, I get paid out instantly, even if they blow the lead later.

00:10:01.000 Sound familiar, Dale?

00:10:02.800 Thanks, Bet365.

00:10:04.420 Must be 19 or older, Ontario only.

00:10:05.940 Please play responsibly.

00:10:06.760 If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or the gambling of someone close to you,

00:10:09.260 please go to connectsontario.ca and see supply.

Valuetainment - August 16, 2026

“That Looks Like an Explosion” - Candace Owens and Andrew Wilson Debate Charlie Kirk’s Death

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