Valuetainment - August 16, 2026


“That Looks Like an Explosion” - Candace Owens and Andrew Wilson Debate Charlie Kirk’s Death

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Patrick Bet-David
Mentioned
Dale Rob O'Neill Charlie Kirk John Bray Osama Bin Laden Candace Owens Erica Kirk Tuscaneiro
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00:00:00 Recently, our company's softball team lost the big game by one run.
00:00:04 Then Dale tried to console us with the quote,
00:00:07 winning isn't everything.
00:00:09 Well, Dale and I are very different.
00:00:12 I get early payout from Bet365.
00:00:14 If my team goes up big, I get paid out instantly,
00:00:17 even if they blow the lead later.
00:00:19 Sound familiar, Dale?
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00:00:30 Do you think that Charlie Kirk was killed with an explosive?
00:00:33 I think that that is a possibility, yes.
00:00:36 Okay, good.
00:00:36 And it should be explored.
00:00:37 He's done a lot of work on it.
00:00:38 John Bray has done good work.
00:00:40 And I think that that's why that theory is now starting to gain steam.
00:00:44 Since we released the second set of the photos of what was in the car, I think it's viable.
00:00:50 So this was the big thing I wanted to get into with you on the explosives, too.
00:00:53 What is it about that theory that's actually compelling to you?
00:00:56 So I looked into the explosive mic theory multiple times,
00:01:00 and the biggest thing that stood out to me is there's no explosion.
00:01:04 There's literally no explosion.
00:01:06 In fact, there's videos when the shot rings out that kills Charlie.
00:01:12 At least it sounds like a shot to me.
00:01:14 People are actually, like, looking up towards where the gun is being fired.
00:01:19 They're looking away for where the sound is.
00:01:22 Like, where's the actual explosion?
00:01:25 Well, for every person that you say looks away,
00:01:27 there's going to be a person that was looking forward.
00:01:29 We have former Marines that have gotten on and said,
00:01:34 it looks to me like there's an explosion under his shirt, right?
00:01:36 You obviously saw Rob O'Neill go on to,
00:01:43 I'm forgetting which platform it was,
00:01:44 where he said the first thing I thought was-
00:01:46 Rob O'Neill is the man that killed Osama Bin Laden. 0.66
00:01:48 Yeah, and I think he's qualified to say what he believes he saw.
00:01:51 We should actually, since they're pulling clips,
00:01:53 we should run that clip of rob o'neill and what he said and what he observed in his experience
00:01:57 so i'm gonna take that and also there were people who tested like immediately spoke to the media
00:02:04 that day who said the same thing that they thought that something happened under a shirt that was
00:02:07 actually if you go back to like my first episode when i was just observing what i saw with my eyes
00:02:10 i was asking the serious question i was seriously saying why is it like somebody shot him from
00:02:15 underneath why is his shirt moving first that doesn't make sense to me and uh i'm not because
00:02:19 of air dispersal from the bullet so when uh when whenever a bullet is shot a projectile shot you
00:02:26 can actually run this experiment yourself if you have a rifle take like an empty box of ammunition
00:02:30 and put it on the table and then fire it near the muzzle and that box will actually blow off the
00:02:36 table okay so question for you does that box go sideways off the table it can it can yeah you can
00:02:44 it depends on the dispersal you three thousand pounds of energy or two thousand pounds of energy
00:02:48 coming at you that's how much it carries well it's not 2 000 pounds of energy well we can fact
00:02:53 check that how many how many how many pounds of energy is it a 30-06 uh being shot 150 yards away
00:02:59 that's a great question for grok i'm gonna say when we looked at it it was between 1500 and 2000
00:03:03 i'm pretty sure pounds of energy coming at you and you just go upward into the side i don't really
00:03:08 buy that i mean and i'm gonna just say i just think that that's not right but possible doesn't
00:03:13 go through on top of that so there's another miracle you didn't get blown backwards you
00:03:16 didn't go through. But I also want to say that
00:03:18 you're saying this can happen, and Rob O'Neill
00:03:20 is infinitely more qualified, I think, to speak
00:03:22 on that. Why?
00:03:24 Well, because he's actually shot and 0.56
00:03:26 killed people. Why would that have anything to do with
00:03:28 anything? Did he slow
00:03:30 down all the videos of the people he shot to see if
00:03:32 their clothes moved?
00:03:34 Well, why are you able to assert your
00:03:36 because I'm going to tell you
00:03:38 how projectiles were. He's not even going to
00:03:40 I guarantee you this guy's not even going to disagree with what I'm about
00:03:42 to say. If it is the case
00:03:44 that you have energy
00:03:45 and you have mass and the mass is moving in the air the air has to go somewhere it doesn't have
00:03:51 a choice i think you're like totally bsing right now man not only am i not bsing i'm telling you
00:03:58 the truth if a bullet is moving in air air has to move out of way of bullet but maybe not at the
00:04:04 bottom of a shirt here i don't know i i just i disagree with that i'd like to say for the record
00:04:07 i've watched some of you do these sorts of things where you assert something with a lot of confidence
00:04:11 and it's you can fact check it's complete your check if bullets displace air not about whether
00:04:16 it displays air it's where it dispersed the air underneath his shirt it's not underneath the
00:04:20 shirt well it's this big and you're telling me it's going to hit his neck and then it's not
00:04:24 underneath the shirt it starts up here and the collar's moving and then you see the wave here
00:04:29 as he's moving backwards no yeah that's not true it's not and we obviously can't show that clip
00:04:34 i disagree with you okay i understand you can't show it for tos purposes exactly uh i disagree
00:04:38 with you people can go watch and make up their own minds we don't need to debate it whether or
00:04:41 That was the first thing I said was, why is his shirt moving first?
00:04:44 That didn't make sense to me.
00:04:45 It almost looks just like this.
00:04:47 It goes across.
00:04:48 His necklace breaks first before Charlie even reacts.
00:04:51 If you watch it in slow, his necklace breaks first, which I thought was very odd.
00:04:55 And then you see a puff here.
00:04:57 And then the next thing you know, there's the entry wound on his neck.
00:05:01 I would not confidently assert that I see smoke.
00:05:04 I've never said it on my platform.
00:05:05 Do you think that an explosion generally has smoke?
00:05:06 I don't think that there's any quality version of video that would get us to be able to answer
00:05:13 that question other than Terrell's 4k footage that he has from the front so there's a lot of
00:05:17 if you look at the Israeli pagers it's assumed that it's a similar if not the same type of
00:05:23 explosive that was used inside the pagers that would have been used inside of this road mic
00:05:27 I think that you should since you love debating you should debate someone like John Bray who's
00:05:32 worked on that theory for 11 months and ask those sorts of questions of how a shape charge would
00:05:36 work uh i presented the evidence of what was in the car and i also at that episode that you're
00:05:41 clipping said john bray has done an unbelievable amount of work on this and i think he has debated
00:05:47 a ton of people actually regarding this topic so that's the route that i would send you on
00:05:52 for the purposes of my yeah for the purposes of my show i i do believe to answer your question
00:05:57 that it is a hypothetical i mean that it is a theory that should be thoroughly explored
00:06:02 There's two clips your team wants to show.
00:06:04 One of them is the Rob O'Neill clip since we're on it.
00:06:06 So if you guys are ready in the back before we go to ad break,
00:06:09 if you want to pull it up, this is a good time to do so.
00:06:11 Recently, our company softball team lost the big game by one run.
00:06:16 Then Dale tried to console us with the quote,
00:06:18 winning isn't everything.
00:06:20 Well, Dale and I are very different.
00:06:24 I get early payout from Bet365.
00:06:25 If my team goes up big, I get paid out instantly,
00:06:28 even if they blow the lead later.
00:06:30 sound familiar dale thanks beth 365 must be 19 or older ontario only please play responsibly if
00:06:36 you have questions or concerns about your gambling or the gambling of someone close to you please go
00:06:39 to connexontario.ca tnc supply i've been good to see general hold a lot of things bother me it
00:06:50 bothers me about this um nothing in particular it's not like i'm out there saying big lie or
00:06:57 conspiracy or someone did it i'm just saying i've been in a lot of shootings i've killed more than a
00:07:01 handful of people and this thing looked shady off the bat i mean just i've killed people closer than
00:07:07 i saw the camera and i've never seen a shirt move like that that looks like an explosion to me
00:07:11 the uh just the fact that no one started doing uh first aid to charlie kirk they were more
00:07:16 concerned about getting sim cards out of cameras removing cameras and then uh getting him off the
00:07:21 x somehow there didn't seem a lot of concern for it for his life it seemed like just clean it up
00:07:25 And then, I mean, I've been told they paved it over a couple days later.
00:07:28 And then you get Erica Kirk behind all the razzle-dazzle,
00:07:32 and she's really quick to forgive the alleged shooter,
00:07:35 which technically says that was him because I forgive him,
00:07:38 but then she can't forgive Candace Owens for having an opinion or asking questions. 0.76
00:07:42 And they mock people by saying, oh, I'm just asking questions.
00:07:44 Yeah, I'm a SEAL Team 6 sniper.
00:07:47 I'm asking a lot of questions.
00:07:48 No one wants to answer them.
00:07:49 And you're able to ask.
00:07:51 He's actually said very little about the explosive there.
00:07:55 I'm just saying he observed, he said he's shot people up close,
00:07:57 and he's never seen a shirt move like that,
00:07:59 and it looked to him like an explosive.
00:08:01 That's what he just said.
00:08:01 When I play that video at full speed, I can't see a shirt moving.
00:08:07 I can only see a shirt moving when we slow it way down.
00:08:10 So if I'm in real time, I'm just assuming this, right?
00:08:13 If I was in real time and I was in like a close quarters combat, 0.98
00:08:17 you kill somebody situation, and I shot them,
00:08:21 would you even see the shirt move? 0.98
00:08:23 Well, I just feel like five minutes ago,
00:08:25 you were arguing that it was because the bullet carried air.
00:08:27 Now you're saying you don't see the shirt move at all.
00:08:29 Yeah, but that's, if you slow it down,
00:08:32 the disbursement of air,
00:08:33 that's where you're going to see it, right?
00:08:35 It's going to be very quick.
00:08:36 Very, very, very, very fast.
00:08:38 Yeah, that's not what I saw.
00:08:39 And clearly it's not what he saw.
00:08:41 And he thinks that there could be an explosive.
00:08:43 So I'm just saying to you,
00:08:44 people disagree with you.
00:08:45 Your opinion's on a fact.
00:08:46 That's all.
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00:09:41 Recently, our company's softball team lost the big game by one run.
00:09:45 Then Dale tried to console us with the quote, winning isn't everything.
00:09:50 Well, Dale and I are very different.
00:09:54 I get early payout from Bet365.
00:09:56 If my team goes up big, I get paid out instantly, even if they blow the lead later.
00:10:01 Sound familiar, Dale?
00:10:02 Thanks, Bet365.
00:10:04 Must be 19 or older, Ontario only.
00:10:05 Please play responsibly.
00:10:06 If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or the gambling of someone close to you,
00:10:09 please go to connectsontario.ca and see supply.