Valuetainment - February 16, 2026


“The Belly Of The Beast” - Lutnick UNDER FIRE Over Epstein Files Connection


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Length

13 minutes

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Word Count

2,662

Sentence Count

287

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

6


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On today's show, Rob and Adam discuss the latest in the scandal surrounding Florida AG Pam Bondi and her testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee. They talk about the hearing, the questions she asked, and the way she handled them. They also talk about Epstein and his plea deal.

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00:00:00.200 Pam Bondi on 0-10, how do you think she performed?
00:00:04.180 Pam Bondi, how do you think she performed?
00:00:05.480 Overall?
00:00:06.040 Overall.
00:00:06.520 I think she's doing an abysmal job.
00:00:08.220 No, no, no.
00:00:08.820 The hearing.
00:00:09.600 Oh, the hearing?
00:00:11.000 Tom gave her a two.
00:00:12.020 I gave her a five.
00:00:12.860 She was right in the middle because she was fighting back,
00:00:15.600 but saying the stock market is good
00:00:18.580 and all the other stuff that was happening was bad.
00:00:20.040 Tom, why do you give her a two?
00:00:21.260 I give her a two.
00:00:22.180 I thought, and I don't want to give that.
00:00:25.080 But guess what?
00:00:25.620 I got to call balls and strikes.
00:00:26.680 And the answer she gave, a couple of the redirections she had,
00:00:32.240 she had one interchange with a...
00:00:34.300 What clip was the most disturbing for you?
00:00:37.000 And what clip, Vinny, was the one that was most impressive for you on her behalf?
00:00:41.260 The clips that I saw of her calling them out on their BS
00:00:45.080 and all their relationships and Jamie Raskin's connection
00:00:47.520 and Hakeem Jeffries, who, talking all this trash,
00:00:50.760 he was begging for campaign funds from Epstein
00:00:54.540 after he was already caught being a pedophile.
00:00:57.340 And just, Pat, if you don't mind, just really fast,
00:00:59.080 just 20 seconds.
00:01:00.980 Adam, we were worried about the border.
00:01:02.700 We were worried about the economy and everything
00:01:03.780 because it was all messed up.
00:01:05.460 Trump fixed it, and now that it's fixed,
00:01:08.040 everybody's back to number one being Epstein.
00:01:10.020 That's the whole...
00:01:10.700 Go to Crockett.
00:01:12.320 Go to Crockett.
00:01:13.600 Go to Crockett, Rob.
00:01:14.680 This is one of them that Vinny was talking about.
00:01:16.820 Yeah, right there.
00:01:17.540 Watch this here.
00:01:18.180 This is the ending, I'm assuming.
00:01:19.320 This is the one I sent you.
00:01:20.380 Okay, go for it.
00:01:22.140 Go back, Rob.
00:01:23.200 Go back.
00:01:23.560 Convicted, homicide, arson, weapon offense.
00:01:30.060 Convicted, so what are we talking about?
00:01:31.980 Convict some of these perpetrators
00:01:34.080 that raped these women that are sitting behind you
00:01:36.760 that you refuse to even acknowledge they are here.
00:01:40.760 Time belongs to the gentleman from Kansas.
00:01:42.740 Mr. Chairman, can I have a few seconds back?
00:01:45.080 Texas, from Cuba.
00:01:46.940 Tom, how about yourself?
00:01:48.020 Convicted, homicide, arson.
00:01:48.560 What was the clip for you where you said,
00:01:50.080 you know, that was to cause to give a two?
00:01:54.040 I hated the whole segment between her and Massey getting into it.
00:01:57.780 Okay, got it.
00:01:58.720 That was just...
00:01:59.440 Wexner, why didn't you?
00:02:00.900 I made you.
00:02:01.980 Yeah.
00:02:02.780 That whole part?
00:02:03.640 Yeah.
00:02:04.020 Yeah.
00:02:04.340 It's like, and by the way, they're on the same team.
00:02:06.740 They're wearing the same jersey under all this.
00:02:08.640 I don't know if they're on the same team.
00:02:09.500 No.
00:02:09.800 No, hang on.
00:02:10.440 They're supposed to be wearing the same team.
00:02:12.680 We have midterms coming up.
00:02:14.260 We had a lot of things going on.
00:02:15.860 And Thomas Massey on the Republican side has kind of become like a, you know, a Joe Lieberman
00:02:23.500 kind of in the middle, kind of a wild card.
00:02:27.120 And I just didn't like that.
00:02:28.940 I just didn't like it at all.
00:02:30.680 I thought it was a bad look.
00:02:31.780 I didn't think it was a good answer.
00:02:33.160 And I thought, I mean, they really got into it.
00:02:34.940 It just, she didn't look poised.
00:02:37.460 Didn't look like an attorney general, you know, on top of her facts and everything.
00:02:41.860 And I was disappointed.
00:02:43.160 I was really disappointed.
00:02:44.540 I didn't want to see this.
00:02:46.220 Got it.
00:02:46.740 Makes sense, Rob.
00:02:47.260 Play the clip.
00:02:49.020 Respond, and then the gentleman can move to his next question.
00:02:51.000 Chairman, it's my time.
00:02:51.220 Within 40 minutes, you asked me a question.
00:02:54.140 You can give me.
00:02:54.720 Within 40 minutes, Wexner's name was added back.
00:02:57.840 Within 40 minutes of me catching you red-handed.
00:03:00.840 Red-handed, there was one redaction out of over 4,700.
00:03:04.840 Where he's listed as a co-conspirator.
00:03:06.760 And we invited you in.
00:03:09.180 This guy has Trump derangement syndrome.
00:03:11.660 He needs to get, you're a failed politician.
00:03:13.760 I want you to watch.
00:03:15.580 Right there.
00:03:16.080 Chairman, please restore his time and remind the witness of the rules here.
00:03:19.140 There is no credible information.
00:03:21.760 None.
00:03:23.300 Got it.
00:03:24.160 Well, I mean, listen.
00:03:25.560 It is, I couldn't find a reason to celebrate it.
00:03:29.780 Rob, can you pull up the tweet on what I posted yesterday about what certain things we become
00:03:34.340 united on?
00:03:35.160 My opinion.
00:03:37.200 So, if you go to the third one.
00:03:39.460 Yeah, right there.
00:03:40.400 The Epstein files have become the biggest black guy to the administration.
00:03:42.960 There are few issues that unite Americans across politics, religion, and income levels.
00:03:46.980 Protecting kids is one of them.
00:03:48.580 The last three administrations failed to address it.
00:03:50.700 This was an opportunity to finally confront it head on.
00:03:53.720 The attack, deny, and never apologize playbook doesn't work when children are involved.
00:03:58.620 Yes, there's a lot to celebrate.
00:03:59.960 Murder down 20%.
00:04:00.920 Border more secure.
00:04:02.560 America projecting strength.
00:04:04.980 Markets performing well.
00:04:06.220 But none of that matters to parents if kids aren't protected.
00:04:09.320 It's also true.
00:04:10.520 Many on the left are more focused on taking out Trump than protecting children.
00:04:14.780 Otherwise, this would have been a priority years ago.
00:04:17.320 Still, this has been badly mishandled when it comes to kids.
00:04:20.120 Transparency and accountability are an optional major fumble.
00:04:23.140 No other way to say it.
00:04:24.420 By the way, did you guys see the clip of Epstein's butler?
00:04:29.860 The camera.
00:04:30.800 And by the way, I just had Rob right now.
00:04:33.180 Fact check it before we show it.
00:04:34.480 This is a real clip.
00:04:35.820 Okay?
00:04:36.580 So, watch this, Rob.
00:04:37.980 If you can play this clip, a little disturbing when you watch this.
00:04:41.560 What is it?
00:04:42.040 Do you know which one I'm talking about?
00:04:43.060 I saw it.
00:04:43.520 I just randomly saw.
00:04:44.440 This is the butler.
00:04:45.800 Watch this.
00:04:46.520 Go ahead.
00:04:47.580 If you hire somebody, I will be fired in a second.
00:04:50.920 The factory computers.
00:04:52.300 Let's talk about this.
00:04:53.060 Yeah.
00:04:53.300 Did you ever see all those computers?
00:04:55.500 Yeah.
00:04:56.680 The edges of burls.
00:04:58.000 Exactly.
00:04:58.500 I saw it.
00:04:59.320 You saw?
00:04:59.960 Remember I told you there was a...
00:05:02.140 Islay Maxwell had an office under the stairs next to the kitchen.
00:05:06.980 The stairs, the computer who was a radiator with water.
00:05:10.720 First time in my life I saw that to keep it cool because they used to download pictures like this.
00:05:15.540 Just like that.
00:05:16.060 What kind of pictures?
00:05:17.340 Naked.
00:05:18.020 Naked girls.
00:05:18.980 From Sweden, from Romania, from Czechoslovakia, from Brazil, from...
00:05:23.280 All minors?
00:05:24.280 All young girls?
00:05:25.200 Very young.
00:05:26.080 Very young.
00:05:26.680 But when you say very young, how young are you talking about?
00:05:28.520 16, 17.
00:05:30.820 The teenagers, they have braces most of them.
00:05:33.160 Younger than that though?
00:05:34.440 Yeah.
00:05:35.040 Yeah.
00:05:35.220 Okay.
00:05:37.080 And this guy from Citrix, he erased all those images.
00:05:40.500 I assume.
00:05:41.320 I'm assuming.
00:05:42.440 Yeah.
00:05:43.000 Because were you there?
00:05:44.440 If you had somebody...
00:05:45.940 Yeah.
00:05:46.160 These are the people he's talking...
00:05:47.080 And then he died on the...
00:05:48.080 2014.
00:05:49.220 Yeah.
00:05:49.480 He died 2014.
00:05:50.640 But he died because of cancer.
00:05:52.380 That's what he died for.
00:05:53.180 I don't want to put it like he died from anything else.
00:05:55.660 Anyways, by the way, here's the question I ask Alex.
00:05:58.720 I'm going to ask you, Vinny.
00:05:59.420 Yeah.
00:05:59.820 How much longer do you think this story is going to last?
00:06:05.020 Epstein.
00:06:05.780 They got...
00:06:07.140 President Trump's not been president for how long?
00:06:09.080 13 months?
00:06:09.760 You're in a couple months.
00:06:11.180 You're in...
00:06:11.420 Is it 13 months?
00:06:12.260 13 months, right?
00:06:13.400 Less than 13 months.
00:06:15.200 Yeah.
00:06:15.420 Less than 13 months.
00:06:17.220 He's got three more years left.
00:06:19.120 How much longer will this be a story?
00:06:22.540 How much longer?
00:06:24.060 We know how much longer he wants it to be a story.
00:06:27.360 You know, he's talking about it yesterday and...
00:06:29.820 Trump says, why do you...
00:06:31.180 I don't even understand why people care about Epstein.
00:06:33.740 And Lutnick is in the back laughing.
00:06:36.560 Do you see that clip?
00:06:37.840 Is this it, Rob?
00:06:38.620 This is President Trump being asked about Lutnick's involvement in the Epstein House.
00:06:43.040 Were you aware that Secretary of Commerce visited Epstein's island?
00:06:47.020 And do you continue to have to...
00:06:47.840 No, I wasn't aware of it.
00:06:48.980 No, I didn't.
00:06:50.000 I actually haven't spoken to him about it.
00:06:51.780 I wasn't.
00:06:52.300 But from what I hear, he was there with his wife and children.
00:06:55.540 And I guess in some cases, some people were.
00:06:58.660 I wasn't.
00:06:59.340 I was never there.
00:07:01.020 Somebody will someday say that.
00:07:03.060 I was never there.
00:07:03.920 You notice how much he goes back to, I was never there.
00:07:07.140 He always goes back to, I was never there.
00:07:08.940 I think the part of it here, you know, when the audience watches, there's things you can
00:07:14.760 laugh at.
00:07:15.940 There's things you can laugh off.
00:07:17.880 You know what I'm saying?
00:07:19.000 There's certain things you cannot laugh off.
00:07:20.860 You know, like even if we do a story and, you know, I'm doing a story and we're joking
00:07:27.080 about certain stories.
00:07:28.480 Certain stories you can't even joke about.
00:07:30.580 You know what I'm saying?
00:07:31.780 So here, I think this is it, Rob, if you want to play.
00:07:34.200 Yeah, watch this.
00:07:35.000 Is he posting some kind of gathering of top advisors this evening to talk about how to
00:07:40.860 respond to the Epstein situation?
00:07:42.620 I don't know.
00:07:43.240 I could ask you that question.
00:07:45.280 I don't know of it.
00:07:46.560 But I think fake news, want to keep something like that going.
00:07:49.940 But credible information.
00:07:51.560 Listen, I don't know, guys.
00:07:56.600 You know, we're fans of Lutnick.
00:07:59.300 Big time.
00:07:59.800 We're fans of, you know, the work that he does.
00:08:02.640 But what do you look for when you play poker against somebody for six hours?
00:08:07.140 You look for what?
00:08:08.200 A towel.
00:08:09.480 Maybe laughing is his towel.
00:08:11.760 And maybe he's got, you know, I don't know.
00:08:14.300 Do you understand what I'm saying?
00:08:15.080 A thousand percent.
00:08:16.200 And by the way, again, I've always said that I'm one of his biggest fans because of what
00:08:20.320 he's doing and the way that he addresses the camera and stuff.
00:08:22.780 But if we're going to be honest, he sat in front of that interview, podcast, whatever
00:08:26.320 you want to call it.
00:08:27.160 And he's like, no.
00:08:28.360 He invited us to his house in Manhattan.
00:08:30.260 We walked in.
00:08:30.920 We saw the massage chair.
00:08:31.780 And I was like, ugh.
00:08:32.400 And that was it.
00:08:33.760 Now we find out because of the files, you took your wife and your kids to the island?
00:08:39.820 Like, this is the clip, right, Rob?
00:08:41.520 Yes.
00:08:42.900 You played this one?
00:08:43.560 And we left.
00:08:45.740 We left.
00:08:46.200 And in the six or eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house, my wife and
00:08:52.440 I decided that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again.
00:09:00.120 So I was never in the room with him socially, for business.
00:09:05.740 Okay, Rob, you can stop it.
00:09:07.100 And then, guys, and let's just call a spade a spade.
00:09:10.260 Then you come out and you say that you took your wife.
00:09:13.800 And here's my thing.
00:09:15.220 After someone's been convicted of being a disgusting, underage, whatever you want to call it, you're
00:09:21.340 going to take your wife and kids and fly them to the belly of the piece.
00:09:24.280 The deal.
00:09:24.780 After the deal.
00:09:25.580 After the, oh, sorry.
00:09:26.680 The plea deal.
00:09:27.340 After the deal.
00:09:27.800 The plea deal.
00:09:28.840 What are we talking about?
00:09:30.340 So they're lying.
00:09:31.120 So to answer your question, Pat, I don't see this thing going away until actual people
00:09:35.800 go to prison.
00:09:37.100 Because people like me, I'm going to let you talk, Adam.
00:09:39.300 And people like me, and I've said this, I want to say 50 times here, let justice be
00:09:44.140 done, though the heavens fall.
00:09:45.920 You don't see it like that because of the institutions, and I get that.
00:09:48.980 But let me ask you this question, Adam.
00:09:50.680 You think God, you think Jesus Christ is cool, and if he was here right now, and he's like,
00:09:55.680 oh, they're using it as leverage?
00:09:57.220 Oh, the rape and probably murder and cannibalism with kids?
00:09:59.540 Yeah, yeah.
00:10:00.220 Use it as leverage so this other country, we don't go bankrupt.
00:10:03.100 You think Jesus Christ would be cool with leverage for pedophilia and murder?
00:10:08.120 Nah, I'm sorry, bro.
00:10:09.340 That's not what my religion is about.
00:10:11.640 That's not what God and Christ is about.
00:10:13.400 I want people to go to prison.
00:10:15.860 We just saw, Pat, who's the Golden Sacks lawyer?
00:10:18.580 She just stepped down yesterday.
00:10:20.780 They're all connected.
00:10:22.400 The banks, the presidents, the billionaires, the millionaires, Bernie Sanders, they're all
00:10:27.560 of them, all of them, and the light is coming out.
00:10:30.060 This disgusting darkness, God is shining a light, and I don't think it's going to go
00:10:34.240 away, Pat.
00:10:34.680 I think it's going to go, it's going to keep going.
00:10:36.400 These kind of things, everything has to be out.
00:10:39.220 Go back and look at history books.
00:10:40.860 I think it's going to go three years.
00:10:42.120 Look, 1972, 1973, Watergate, until all of the men had been tried, and Liddy was in prison,
00:10:51.020 Colson was in prison, Archibald Cox closed the books, all the tapes were out there, books
00:10:56.140 were published that transcribed the tapes, and then, and only then, was Watergate done.
00:11:01.120 We knew about Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist, we knew about the break-in, we knew about the
00:11:05.220 clumsy Cubans that broke in to the Watergate Hotel, we knew everything.
00:11:08.760 It was all out there, it was over and done, and then Gerald Ford lost the election, and
00:11:14.440 Jimmy Carter's chapter began.
00:11:16.060 But it took three years, and that was just Watergate, Pat, but everything had to get out.
00:11:21.320 Right, but Tom, Trump knows this.
00:11:23.900 Trump has to know this.
00:11:24.900 Like, you know, you'll test to make a story go away.
00:11:28.520 It hasn't gone away.
00:11:30.040 What are you doing now?
00:11:31.700 What are you doing now?
00:11:32.580 Three million more, the news media, everybody interested is saying, the other three million
00:11:37.780 docs.
00:11:38.220 A new Faith Over Fear hat is coming soon to a theater near you, but I just wanted to, this
00:11:43.260 morning I was listening to Billy Graham, which Pat, you told me to listen to him.
00:11:46.980 You're like, you know, Vinny, dive in and listen to him.
00:11:48.700 So I'm getting ready in the morning, I'm just listening to Billy Graham, and he said something
00:11:51.740 that I hadn't heard in a while, and it was the Apostle Thomas.
00:11:55.760 When Jesus rose from the dead, Thomas wasn't there to see the resurrection.
00:12:00.200 So Thomas goes, I'll believe that he rose if I get to put my hands in his wounds and in
00:12:04.800 his side.
00:12:05.360 So then he finally sees Jesus, and he goes in there, he goes, God, Thomas, God, put your
00:12:09.040 hands in here.
00:12:09.860 And Jesus looks at him, he goes, because you have seen me, you believe.
00:12:13.440 Blessed of those who haven't seen me and still believe it.
00:12:16.640 In that moment, Tom, it hit me.
00:12:18.060 He's talking about us, okay?
00:12:19.820 We weren't there.
00:12:20.660 We didn't see Jesus walk.
00:12:21.700 We didn't see him die.
00:12:22.380 We didn't see him rise from the dead, but we believe, and that is faith in real time.
00:12:27.700 And he's talking about us.
00:12:28.660 And the last one, you mentioned the story about the Nigeria that we're sending 200 troops.
00:12:33.260 Trump is sending 200 troops.
00:12:34.460 They're saying they're not going to do anything crazy.
00:12:36.000 But think about that.
00:12:37.320 Think about the priests.
00:12:38.080 Think about the parishioners in those churches that were bombed and murdered and slaughtered.
00:12:42.260 And they were in that church praying and saying, please help.
00:12:45.920 That is faith over fear in real time.
00:12:48.780 And that's what we're about.
00:12:49.820 And that's what the brand is about.
00:12:50.900 And I can't tell you how many people see me with the shirt, because the shirt's on the
00:12:54.200 back, and just tap me on the back and go, I'm with you.
00:12:56.540 Or they see this hat and they go, where can I get that hat?
00:12:58.720 So you go on vtmerch.com, get the hat.
00:13:01.440 We have the hoodies.
00:13:02.080 We have here my send me, which is Isaiah chapter 6, verse 8 as well.
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