Valuetainment - August 15, 2025


"The Masses Don't Matter" - Ex-CIA Spy EXPOSES Israel’s Political Influence In DC


Episode Stats

Length

10 minutes

Words per Minute

176.66313

Word Count

1,943

Sentence Count

159

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

On this episode of the podcast, Pat and Dan talk about the Iran case, the Shah's fall from power, and the rise of the Islamic Revolution in Iran. They also talk about some of the reasons why the U.S. should be worried about Iran's nuclear program.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Shah is the leader of Iran for, I don't know, 37 years, 38 years, 39, somewhere in the high 30s, right?
00:00:07.240 He was there.
00:00:07.920 Can you pull up how many years he was in reign?
00:00:11.040 38 years, 41 to 79.
00:00:13.100 Okay, 38 years.
00:00:15.160 And he improves the economy, allows women to vote.
00:00:20.820 Women have freedom.
00:00:21.600 They're not forced to get married at a young age, 9 years old, 8 years old, 10 years old, all that stuff, gone.
00:00:27.520 Great relationship with the West.
00:00:29.560 People travel in and out.
00:00:31.680 He falls.
00:00:33.120 He leaves.
00:00:34.100 He dies.
00:00:35.480 Khomeini comes in.
00:00:36.660 IRGC comes in.
00:00:37.780 I had the former founder of IRGC here doing a podcast with us a few months ago.
00:00:41.920 And then it's been now 46 years, okay?
00:00:45.360 And everyone's been waiting for his son to go back and bring freedom to Iran, Reza Pahlavi, whose son we've had him on here a few times as well.
00:00:54.280 And nothing's happened.
00:00:55.560 I think he's a nice guy.
00:00:56.440 I don't think he's his father to be tougher or his grandfather.
00:00:59.600 He's a nice guy.
00:01:01.060 And lots of people have been waiting for him to do it.
00:01:03.780 I don't think he wants to do the job.
00:01:05.000 I don't think he's going to do the job.
00:01:06.900 And he keeps saying, peaceful, peaceful.
00:01:08.820 We have to do it peacefully, peacefully, peacefully, peacefully, peacefully.
00:01:11.220 But this is not the job of anybody, okay?
00:01:14.700 The revolution of the Shah leaving wasn't peacefully.
00:01:17.380 It was nasty.
00:01:18.360 But they've had control for 46 years.
00:01:20.120 If the CIA and others really wanted Iran to fall the last 46 years, it was a lot easier to do it under the Shah than it would be now.
00:01:33.180 Why hasn't U.S., MI6, Mossad, the Middle East became chaotic after the Shah fell?
00:01:43.080 Well, if we keep hearing these stories about, let me tell you, what's the word I'm looking for, that they got involved to create a coup, whatever the word is.
00:01:53.100 But if they have the playbook, if they know how to do it, if they know Iran is chaotic and they call it what the, what's the phrase they say of terrorism, there's a, they're the such and such of terrorism.
00:02:10.440 Like they're the ones that generate it all over the world.
00:02:13.600 Why hasn't MI6, Mossad, and U.S. worked together, state-sponsored terrorism, yeah.
00:02:20.020 Why haven't they worked together to cause a fall?
00:02:22.380 46 years, you left them alone?
00:02:24.620 Why?
00:02:25.480 So this is where uncomfortable truths have to be said, right?
00:02:30.600 Sure.
00:02:31.440 Iran is not a priority for the United States.
00:02:34.440 And when you have friends like—
00:02:37.340 For 46 years, it's not been a priority?
00:02:39.260 Why would it be a priority?
00:02:40.900 Russia is not a priority for the United States either anymore.
00:02:43.100 We don't, they don't touch our economy.
00:02:45.360 They don't touch our people.
00:02:46.840 We're militarily insulated against them.
00:02:49.720 And most important of all, Pat, we have friends who they have to go through first.
00:02:55.760 So it's a problem that we outsource.
00:02:59.840 It's Saudi Arabia's problem.
00:03:01.800 It's Israel's problem.
00:03:02.940 It's the UAE's problem.
00:03:04.300 It's Jordan's problem.
00:03:05.360 These are all allies that we have, and we give them money.
00:03:08.840 We have military bases that they host.
00:03:11.500 We feed them intelligence, and they take action on the intelligence.
00:03:13.880 A big part of the reason why Netanyahu, even still to this day, doesn't have to kowtow to the United States is because he understands the leverage he has.
00:03:21.300 He understands that he is the wall that protects the United States and the Western allies from Iran, and it makes it so that we can spend our money on something else, and he spends his money and his lives protecting the rest of us against Iran.
00:03:36.560 If it was a priority for us, like it was on the day that Trump went in and blew up the nuclear sites, when it's a priority for us, we reach right into that cookie jar and do our thing.
00:03:51.000 But when it's not a priority for us, we reach into other cookie jars.
00:03:54.000 So when you say they have to go through somebody else, it's kind of like, before you can come fight me, kick this guy's ass, that guy's Dan, you can come talk to me about final case.
00:04:05.740 It's like a weight class.
00:04:06.800 You've got to come up.
00:04:07.940 Okay.
00:04:08.640 So then if that's the case, in this case, wouldn't that paint Israel as the protector to what Iran could do to others?
00:04:18.960 If that's the case, why are they not seen and they're getting the level of criticism they've been getting the last two years, two and a half years?
00:04:29.220 So first of all, it took them two and a half years to get this current level of criticism, right?
00:04:34.240 Right now is when you have...
00:04:36.320 It's been about a year.
00:04:37.000 They're getting destroyed right now online, like the people are going after Israel in a hardcore way.
00:04:41.460 Online.
00:04:42.320 Online is the masses.
00:04:43.380 The masses have no authority.
00:04:44.300 Well, what I'm concerned about is how do Western leaders treat them?
00:04:49.640 Do you do that, Rob?
00:04:50.180 Yeah.
00:04:50.820 The masses don't matter.
00:04:52.580 If the masses think they matter, that's why they're the masses.
00:04:58.900 Israel understands...
00:04:59.980 Online influencers, YouTubers, podcasters.
00:05:01.980 We can talk and people can carry our voice, but what can we do to affect policy, man?
00:05:08.280 Not a thing.
00:05:09.700 Affecting policy isn't profitable either.
00:05:11.380 So that's why they...
00:05:14.380 YouTube can turn us off if they don't like what we have to say, right?
00:05:17.540 Facebook can quiet you if they don't like what you have to say.
00:05:19.800 So what power do we really have, right?
00:05:22.180 That's...
00:05:22.660 We have to avoid certain keywords so that we don't get canceled by the organization, not by the internet.
00:05:28.960 But do you think for a guy that's very open about the fact that the Mossad is extremely reckless,
00:05:36.440 very open about the fact that, you know, we don't have to solve Iran's problem because that's Israel's problem.
00:05:41.180 We just give them the money and go, you go do it, right?
00:05:43.040 What do you need?
00:05:43.520 Here, go do it.
00:05:44.140 It's on you and you guys pretty much can self-sustain yourself.
00:05:46.820 Even better, we don't give you the money.
00:05:48.820 We sell you the weapons, so we make the profit, but you're still giving us.
00:05:53.300 You're still buying an American dollar.
00:05:54.480 So do you think the level of criticism Israel's been getting the last two years, people don't know the full story of the role they play that's positive for the world?
00:06:02.940 100%.
00:06:03.300 Really?
00:06:03.920 100%.
00:06:04.280 It's 100% true.
00:06:05.660 I would have not guessed you would have said that.
00:06:07.200 So I am a staunch, staunch supporter of Israel's importance to the United States.
00:06:12.220 Holy shit.
00:06:13.160 Tell me why.
00:06:13.960 Because they are the first wall of fucking defense for us.
00:06:19.900 There's a reason that we fucked everybody up so much at the end of World War II.
00:06:23.960 Because we had to build walls around the American boundary.
00:06:28.700 We needed to manipulate Europe.
00:06:32.140 NATO is there to protect us.
00:06:33.720 We're not there to help Europe.
00:06:35.440 NATO is there to protect us.
00:06:37.400 Israel is there to protect us.
00:06:39.360 We continue to, our presidents like Biden, call the Saudi Arabian prince all sorts of horrible names and promise justice, but it never happens because Saudi Arabia protects us.
00:06:50.240 Americans, for sure, don't want our enemies at the gate.
00:06:54.720 So we let our enemies go to other gates.
00:06:57.060 And then in diplomatic channels, military channels, and intelligence channels, we give them the tools to fight the fight.
00:07:03.240 Why do we continue to support Ukraine?
00:07:05.880 Because they are weakening Russia.
00:07:07.660 That benefits us.
00:07:09.520 Hurts Ukraine.
00:07:10.120 Ukraine, but as a very pragmatic fact, a Ukraine death does not equal an American death.
00:07:16.780 Not in the eyes of an American.
00:07:18.700 Certainly not in the eyes of the American administration.
00:07:20.380 Okay, so if that's the case and we're going with the role Israel plays, how have they gotten the reputation they have right now that they control American politicians, they fund American politicians, they're doing all this stuff?
00:07:44.580 And by the way, it's documented.
00:07:45.600 AIPAC spends the money, you know, they're hardcore, or they're always going out there and, you know, lobbying and, hey, you know, we're this and we need you to come and we'll travel you and we'll send you this one.
00:07:55.380 How have they gotten the level of criticism they have?
00:07:58.580 And why isn't half the market believe in them?
00:08:01.160 They're like, no, I'm not with you.
00:08:02.420 I think you guys are, you know, Trump is a puppet to BB and Israel, all this stuff that you started here.
00:08:07.560 So a big part of that is because Israel doesn't trust us.
00:08:10.020 They know we have set them up to take bullets instead of our people.
00:08:14.360 They know that we put them into a country that's surrounded by their enemies.
00:08:18.800 They understand that every proposition and accord that we try to force them into benefits us more than it benefits them.
00:08:25.660 Israel's not stupid.
00:08:26.760 Israelis are very, very smart, very entrepreneurial, very self-defensive.
00:08:34.940 Like they understand that nobody's there to help them.
00:08:37.320 We as Americans, we forget that we have institutions that protect us.
00:08:43.600 We have partnerships that we believe in.
00:08:46.660 We pay health insurance so that we're not going to get sick.
00:08:48.640 Like we have this false idea that we're safe.
00:08:51.020 Israelis don't carry that idea.
00:08:52.340 They know they're not safe.
00:08:54.060 So they do whatever it takes to get them just an inch more of security.
00:08:58.240 So they reach back into the United States and they do lobby for what they believe in.
00:09:02.200 And they do try to take advantage of markets when they can and leverage relationships when they can.
00:09:07.520 I mean, there's this phenomenal book called Thou Shalt Prosper, written by a rabbi about why business benefits from the five, like these five principles of Hebrew of Judaism.
00:09:21.300 Phenomenal book.
00:09:23.480 Every business leader should read this book.
00:09:26.620 But in that, he very clearly lays out how the traditional beliefs of Judaism translate directly to business benefits.
00:09:36.240 And the same thing I guarantee you applies in some other book to political benefit.
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