Valuetainment - July 21, 2026


The Odyssey Movie Review - Worth Watching?


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00:00:00.000 Odyssey comes out, movie, Christopher Nolan, $375 million budget total.
00:00:06.740 That includes $125 million marketing, so $250 plus $125, $375.
00:00:11.500 Opening weekend, $264 million, breaking Christopher Nolan's previous record of Batman.
00:00:17.160 Which Batman was it, Tom, that did $249 million?
00:00:19.780 Dark Knight Rises.
00:00:20.060 Dark Knight Rises did $249 million.
00:00:22.520 I even think, if I'm not mistaken, it beat Oppenheimer.
00:00:25.660 Some people are predicting this thing's going to do around $750 million.
00:00:29.360 Let me kind of give you, at first when we were watching this,
00:00:32.640 everybody was talking about this whole Elliot Page guy, transgender,
00:00:36.400 that they put the part in there, and he's doing that because without having a character like that, 0.61
00:00:39.720 you cannot win, what do you call it, an Oscar, and you can't participate in it.
00:00:44.320 And I looked at the numbers on how much they paid actors.
00:00:46.380 Do you know the exact amount, how much they paid everybody?
00:00:48.480 Okay, let me kind of go through.
00:00:49.420 What do you think Elliot Page made?
00:00:50.560 Just guess.
00:00:51.980 $3 million.
00:00:52.860 $1.5 million.
00:00:54.920 Then if you go to some of the big names, John Leguizamo, what do you think he got paid?
00:01:00.120 $2 million.
00:01:00.920 $2.5 million.
00:01:01.740 Jon Bernthal, he got paid $3 million.
00:01:05.200 Lupita Nyong, you know which one that is? 0.92
00:01:06.980 Helena Troy. 0.85
00:01:07.920 Helena Troy, $4 million.
00:01:09.740 Charlize Theron, $5 million.
00:01:11.620 Robert Pattinson, who played at Tinnitus, he got paid $6 million.
00:01:17.180 Anne Hathaway, only $7 million.
00:01:19.700 I thought it would be a little bit higher.
00:01:21.700 Zendaya, Athena, who was not a bigger character than Anne Hathaway, $8 million.
00:01:26.940 Holy moly.
00:01:27.700 And then you have Tom Holland, $10 million, Matt Damon, $15 million is what he got paid for the movie.
00:01:34.240 That's not a lot for like that's not a lot for Matt Damon.
00:01:36.680 I thought Matt was going to be in the 25 to 30s, but he got paid 15.
00:01:39.480 I thought he did very good.
00:01:40.660 Now, you know, for me, when you look at the story, when you look at the story, the acting, everything that was going on, we came home and we had a lot of discussions with it.
00:01:50.040 I had a very good conversation with Tom's daughter, Brooke,
00:01:53.960 who knew everything about the story of Homer.
00:01:56.380 And, you know, by the way, do you know when this was written?
00:01:59.140 Do you know the exact timeline when this was written?
00:02:00.520 We talked about it.
00:02:01.340 800 B.C.
00:02:02.540 This book was written 800 B.C. by Homer,
00:02:04.860 which some say Homer is not even a real character,
00:02:06.840 but they said he was blind.
00:02:09.000 Homer was blind.
00:02:09.680 He wrote this and he wrote the Iliad.
00:02:11.760 And it turns into this movie and a couple of the parts, you know,
00:02:15.780 when you go into the characters where you question it,
00:02:17.740 the one girl who was the witch where Matt Damon shows up
00:02:20.980 and they turn his soldiers into pigs while they're eating the food.
00:02:24.200 What's her name? 1.00
00:02:24.780 Cersei.
00:02:25.220 And that's also the name in the other show, right?
00:02:27.480 Game of Thrones.
00:02:28.220 Game of Thrones as well.
00:02:29.120 She's the queen.
00:02:29.540 She's the queen. 1.00
00:02:30.320 So this witch was supposed to be a very attractive witch, 0.64
00:02:33.160 but she wasn't in the movie.
00:02:34.600 And one of the characters with the crow, that's not really in the book.
00:02:37.680 The crow is supposed to be her sister that she has animosity on.
00:02:40.960 And Matt Damon, who kind of figures out as he's going to this,
00:02:43.720 he is when he shoots the deer, it ends up becoming a human being.
00:02:46.680 he knows something's going on there that was an interesting uh uh you know scene that they went
00:02:51.580 through poseidon's son the guy with the one-eyed you know who i'm talking about cyclops cyclops
00:02:57.060 cyclops that he was eating you know some of the soldiers and how they got away from it with all
00:03:02.240 these he says follow the sheep no sheep are by themselves they're always with it and so you kind
00:03:06.400 of climb up and then he sees poseidon's son and they have to escape him and they get on the ship
00:03:10.720 eventually they make it out of there the ending of the story one of the scenes that was left left
00:03:15.280 that which I love that Brooke shared this with me there's a scene about when he comes back
00:03:20.160 and Anne Hathaway who was playing Penelope doesn't know whether this is Odysseus or not because he's
00:03:27.480 been gone for about a decade and he hung out with Charlize Theron who Charlize Theron is playing
00:03:33.440 Calypso who's a person who always falls in love with people that come there but they never love
00:03:38.420 her back and she keeps feeding him this what do you call it this flower oh what was it called
00:03:42.520 What was that flower called?
00:03:44.200 The orchid?
00:03:45.020 That you forget.
00:03:45.940 You forget about your past.
00:03:47.760 And this is her way of getting people to love her, but it never happened.
00:03:51.340 Anyways, he comes back.
00:03:52.840 And one scene that she said should have been in the book that wasn't
00:03:56.760 is the scene where Penelope is trying to find out if Odysseus is really Odysseus.
00:04:03.740 She goes and tells the workers loud enough.
00:04:06.280 So Odysseus is listening and says, hey, I need you to remove this bed from my bedroom.
00:04:12.000 I want this thing to be out of here.
00:04:13.880 And he responds back and says, you can't.
00:04:16.600 That bed is specially made because it's got the roots to an olive tree.
00:04:20.380 And then she says, there's only two people that know this.
00:04:23.540 Me and Odysseus.
00:04:24.700 Wow.
00:04:25.480 Because that was the first time it was under a tree that they,
00:04:28.860 and so he took the tree and turned that tree into her bed.
00:04:31.840 A marriage bed, yeah.
00:04:32.700 A marriage bed tied to an olive tree.
00:04:36.120 Look, I enjoyed it.
00:04:37.320 I enjoyed it.
00:04:37.760 I don't know what to tell you.
00:04:38.440 I enjoyed watching.
00:04:38.920 I gave it a seven and a half.
00:04:39.880 I didn't give it like a nine and a half gladiator.
00:04:42.000 you know but it's definitely better than gladiator 2 and i think you should go watch it there's a
00:04:45.920 lot of people that say you shouldn't waste your time and that whole elliott page thing you know
00:04:50.120 it wasn't that much of a deal for me to be like what is this person doing here i get what he's
00:04:55.820 doing uh but i actually like watching a movie vinny your thoughts it was good uh and i'm telling
00:05:01.060 everybody i recommend everybody do not watch it unless you're watching it in an imax theater the
00:05:06.380 movie was shot and in all IMAX cameras he even I guess he invented uh Christopher Nolan Tommy
00:05:12.480 something to cover the actual cameras because they make a lot of noise during the shooting so
00:05:16.340 he created that uh I think it was good Pat it was a little a little long all the reviews uh
00:05:21.200 Rotten Tomatoes is 95 and 97 it was visually good I mean how long Tom how long is the Odyssey the
00:05:28.220 book how many pages Pat oh it's like depending on what language you're reading it in but it's
00:05:32.240 like 500 pages the iliad is 500 pages you know brooke went through a full semester and they
00:05:38.440 didn't get through the book they went through these key passages and then they read a narrative
00:05:42.680 summary of everything and then went deep into these passages and the characters and everything
00:05:47.220 it's 500 freaking pages so if you're guys if you're that well versed and like tom's daughter
00:05:53.960 brooke she's she we had a 20 minute briefing before that we even watched the movie and she
00:05:59.260 said vinnie if if you've read if you read the book and you understand it there are so many missing
00:06:03.760 pieces and i get it it's freaking 500 pages you can't it should have been she said something
00:06:07.820 really good pat she said it should have been a series it should have been two or three movies
00:06:11.800 like uh like in dune but you know with the casting i understand like you said what he's doing uh
00:06:16.900 nolan's playing the game he wants to win an oscar and to win the oscar the academy's represent uh 0.93
00:06:20.720 representation and inclusion standards you have to have you know a midget you have to have you 0.99
00:06:25.580 know i mean they have to have all this crazy stuff the one thing pat i'm gonna say it fast 1.00
00:06:28.740 that pissed me off, John Lugazamo
00:06:30.580 and Humberto's going to play this clip
00:06:32.780 this is one of the biggest
00:06:34.980 besides the Trump Arrangement Syndrome 0.99
00:06:36.700 and America sucks and all this stuff 0.99
00:06:38.320 the biggest complaining 1.00
00:06:40.400 Wynum victimhood mentality I've ever seen
00:06:43.000 he says here Pat
00:06:44.380 Hollywood's not the most accepting place
00:06:46.700 when it comes to Latinos and the most
00:06:48.580 aggressively unrepresented group
00:06:50.340 in America, can you please play this clip
00:06:52.120 what's been your odyssey
00:06:54.460 in terms of fighting for your identity or your Hollywood
00:06:56.500 career, well you know it's always been a battle
00:06:58.680 I mean, you know, Hollywood is not the most accepting place, even though we Latin people are 30 to 40 percent of the box office and a third of streamers.
00:07:07.880 We're still not represented. We're the most underrepresented, aggressively underrepresented group in America.
00:07:13.180 So that's been my odyssey to try to bring some parody.
00:07:17.920 And this is what bothers me. This is coming from a guy that I've known, Pat, has been acting since the 80s.
00:07:23.200 Over 100 movies, TV projects, made millions. How much did you say he made, Pat?
00:07:27.140 two and a half million dollars it's not that he wants more problems opportunities for latinos
00:07:31.480 he's constantly selling other latinos on the idea that the system stacked against them even though
00:07:36.920 his life proves the opposite okay he reminds me of the obamas everything's racist everything is
00:07:41.380 this you're the president hey michelle your husband was president twice okay and then look
00:07:46.300 around marcelo hernandez selena gomez danny trejo sofia vergaro sama hayek penelope cruz
00:07:52.380 rosen sanchez jennifer lopez benicio del toro i could keep going indy garcia eva longorio how
00:07:58.340 up under represent i don't get it pat it's it's america is full of successful latinos comedians
00:08:04.800 musicians everything stop teaching this victimhood mentality john okay you're doing it everybody else
00:08:11.160 can do it i just think it's ridiculous tom it pisses me off and if you're gonna be a victim
00:08:15.340 and you're gonna start quoting history for the love of god get it right he goes off and says i
00:08:20.820 believe the quote was oh and they took 500 tons of gold that funded the renaissance hey words talk
00:08:27.980 numbers scream here's the number for you 1410 that was the start of the renaissance yeah 100
00:08:33.300 tons of gold 100 million tons of gold that was the estimate the 100 000 tons of gold is the
00:08:40.020 estimate that was taken from the incas and the mayans in 1697 yeah so it's just like 300 years
00:08:46.760 later so it's like oh they took this and they funded it queen isabella didn't send them in
00:08:52.040 there until 1600 it's like like 1550 1530 i think it was 1532 the queen's proclamation pat here's
00:08:59.000 your ships here's your guys we think there's some gold there's some stuff out there go get it and
00:09:03.600 then you come back all in uh 15 1697 so it's like if you're gonna tell the story and relate it to
00:09:11.040 history get your facts straight dude before you go into this victim stuff he's all victim but you
00:09:16.380 know what stands out even more that something like not not that many people were talking about
00:09:19.740 we talked about it this is one of the most famous greek stories ever told and there's not one major
00:09:26.060 greek actor in any major role in the entire like if you guys think about pat that's the most bizarre
00:09:31.000 if you're going to talk about a greek epic how do you not include at least one prominent greek
00:09:35.820 anybody pat anything put one greek person in there you had every other race in there i take
00:09:41.660 two fast sides of it side number one it was an amazing movie amazing effects and everything that
00:09:46.520 goes with it and that's the same way that guess what dark knight when we saw christopher nolan
00:09:51.540 in the first batman movie he did we said wait this is dark he's got character things on batman
00:09:56.660 batman is very dark holding the villain over remember yeah of course the villain
00:10:02.020 and then has like this moral this moral decision does he drop the guy or not that's not batman
00:10:09.720 batman's good well that was that was christopher nolan making an outstanding film of batman
00:10:15.580 based on batman if you wanted a biopic of the of of basically exactly what homer was talking about
00:10:24.180 wait for hbo to do like 20 episodes and do a historical biopic what score you give the movie
00:10:29.360 i give it an eight you give it an eight i remember when we walked out i i'm i'm going 7.75 all right
00:10:36.400 I said seven, seven and a half is what I gave it.
00:10:38.380 So only one Greek actor appears to be in Christopher Nolan's Odyssey.
00:10:42.180 Giannis Kokia Mesos.
00:10:44.800 He has a brief role as the prophetic villager who warns Odysseus about the disasters ahead.
00:10:50.300 And he's reportedly the film's only actor who speaks Greek.
00:10:53.120 I stand corrected.
00:10:54.440 One guy that doesn't even have a role.
00:10:56.360 Can you pull up his picture so at least we can give credit to this Giannis guy?
00:10:59.080 Oh, man.
00:10:59.460 Please go to it.
00:11:00.100 Let's find out who he is.
00:11:01.140 Giannis, shout out to you.
00:11:02.740 Great job for representing Greeks in a movie.
00:11:04.440 Is that him?
00:11:05.000 Oh, Giannis.
00:11:06.160 Was he the guy with one eye that had the one eye that looked blind?
00:11:10.260 His character in the movie, you know the guy I'm talking about?
00:11:12.040 It might have been, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:11:12.900 I think that's him.
00:11:13.960 I don't know.
00:11:14.960 I think it's the top left guy.
00:11:16.320 We don't even remember.
00:11:17.560 All right, let's get to the next one.
00:11:18.600 Next story I want to get into.
00:11:19.400 I got something for you, PBD. 0.99
00:11:20.780 If you haven't seen it, I'm not coming to you.
00:11:23.180 I actually have seen it.
00:11:24.300 Okay, go ahead.
00:11:25.700 Okay.
00:11:26.420 I actually love the fact that The Odyssey is the number one movie in the world right now.
00:11:31.200 By the way, we have another Greek in Miami, Yanis Odentokounmpo.
00:11:35.000 and I agree with you, Vinny, on Marcelo hosting the ESPYs, crushed it. But the reason I like 0.99
00:11:40.440 the Odyssey, the number one movie in the world, is because it's teaching people history. Our
00:11:44.940 favorite movies that we always talk about, Gladiator, Ancient Rome, Braveheart, The Patriot,
00:11:51.760 Saving Private Ryan, all historical movies. You know, a lot of young people think that Homer
00:11:56.120 is Homer Simpson. Learned from history, you're destined to repeat it. Number two, biggest takeaway,
00:12:01.420 the number one move in the movie was the trojan horse i think europe should watch the movie at
00:12:06.480 this point understanding the third world and then pbd the last point what i loved
00:12:11.020 this guy goes on this 20-year adventure to do what return home to get his queen and get his
00:12:19.280 girl back so you go through the struggle the struggle's real but uh i thought it was great
00:12:23.620 an historical epic movie yeah fantastic so what'd you give it zero to ten i give it a 9.0 okay good
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