Valuetainment - August 15, 2026


“There is No Evidence” - Andrew Wilson Challenges Candace Owens’ Israel Theory

Hosted by
Patrick Bet-David
Mentioned
Charlie Kirk Tyler Robinson Dale Andrew Colbert Tucker Carlson Benjamin Netanyahu Candace Owens Ian Carroll Erica Kirk Tuscany Kelly Cleo
“Crazies Are Everywhere” - Idaho Shooting Behind The Scenes REVEALED ＂You Said She's COMPLICIT＂ - Andrew Wilson GRILLS Candace Owens Over Charlie Kirk Claims

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00:00:00 Recently, our company's softball team lost the big game by one run.
00:00:04 Then Dale tried to console us with the quote,
00:00:07 winning isn't everything.
00:00:09 Well, Dale and I are very different.
00:00:12 I get early payout from Bet365.
00:00:14 If my team goes up big, I get paid out instantly,
00:00:17 even if they blow the lead later.
00:00:19 Sound familiar, Dale?
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00:00:30 Andrew, your claim is overwhelming evidence that Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk.
00:00:38 Opening statements, opening comments.
00:00:40 Sure.
00:00:40 And what I mean by overwhelming is I just find it very convincing.
00:00:44 I think that's what most people mean when they say overwhelming evidence.
00:00:48 So I have a brief opening statement.
00:00:51 On September 10th, 2025, Charlie Kirk was murdered.
00:00:54 Many of you already know a lot about the events which occurred after Kirk's death.
00:00:58 You remember the ghoulish laughter, celebrations, and madness we saw from leftists all over,
00:01:03 from TikTok invasions, debates, posts on social media, destruction of memorials, and things like
00:01:08 this. Within weeks of Kirk's death, a cottage industry began to form, peddling various alternative
00:01:15 theories on how he died. What special interests may have killed him? What nations were involved?
00:01:21 and was our own government one of them?
00:01:25 Because this was the first nationwide traumatic event 0.99
00:01:28 in Gen Z's lifetime,
00:01:30 the demand for answers was severe and palpable. 0.99
00:01:33 The leading theory from the conspiracy verse
00:01:36 is that Israel worked with the United States government
00:01:40 to murder Charlie Kirk.
00:01:41 Within a day or two of Kirk's death,
00:01:43 Ian Carroll claimed that Israel killed Charlie Kirk
00:01:46 and the conspiracy caught on like wildfire.
00:01:48 this theory was built on one misleading piece of evidence that in his final days on around
00:01:54 september 8th charlie sent a text message reading jewish donors play into all the stereotypes i
00:02:00 cannot and will not be bullied like this leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-israel cause
00:02:05 this was sent in the context of a platforming dispute regarding tucker carlson from this
00:02:11 scintilla of misleading information it was speculated that israel killed charlie kirk
00:02:15 because he would have successfully opposed the Iranian war.
00:02:19 Now, that's a fun theory,
00:02:21 and who doesn't like a good, fun conspiracy theory?
00:02:23 I like them.
00:02:24 But there is no evidence that Israel actually killed Charlie Kirk. 0.55
00:02:27 And if Candace has some, I'd like her to actually show it to me.
00:02:30 I'm open to suggestions, but to date, there hasn't been any.
00:02:34 There is, however, tons of evidence that a leftist killed Charlie Kirk,
00:02:38 just as Charlie feared they would.
00:02:39 I believe Charlie Kirk, and I have the receipts.
00:02:43 No, I didn't have a dream where he came to me and told me that the left killed him.
00:02:49 No, he didn't come to me a dream and say, Candace Owens betrayed him.
00:02:53 That never happened.
00:02:54 In fact, I don't need dreams of any kind because I hold in my possession
00:02:57 never-before-seen messages from Charlie Kirk to his security team on September 9th, 2025.
00:03:03 I'm going to share the message with you today,
00:03:05 which is the first time this information has ever been publicly revealed.
00:03:09 On September 9th, Charlie's security team wrote to him,
00:03:11 Yes, law enforcement has been fully supportive and agreed to a security plan and posture.
00:03:18 Tomorrow's event will be covered by both my team and the campus PD.
00:03:21 If additional support is required, patrol units will be available.
00:03:24 I have 11 on site.
00:03:26 Charlie responded with this.
00:03:28 Okay, great.
00:03:29 Remind them that they are there for one person's security only.
00:03:33 Because I'm somewhat worried the left is trying to kill me.
00:03:38 That was a message sent September 9th.
00:03:45 Whatever could he have meant by that?
00:03:47 Well, I think he meant exactly what he said,
00:03:49 that he was worried the left was going to try to kill him.
00:03:53 Now, we'll discuss this more later on in the debate,
00:03:55 and maybe I have more never-before-seen evidence
00:03:58 that exposes just how wrong and, in my opinion, 0.99
00:04:01 idiotic many of these conspiracy theories have been. 0.95
00:04:04 but that's what happens when you rely on what's called the evidence of the gaps 0.95
00:04:09 in other words they don't have evidence they seem to just make up evidence and what did
00:04:14 they make up well in my opinion kind of whatever lined the pockets and i think it's ghoulish to
00:04:20 profit off of the death of a good man but we came here today to debate and so let's get to it the
00:04:27 debate topic today is one my belief that there's overwhelming evidence that tyler robinson killed
00:04:32 Charlie Kirk. And two, Candace's belief that there's overwhelming evidence that Tyler Robinson
00:04:36 was a patsy and didn't kill Charlie Kirk. In some, the audience is going to decide who has more
00:04:41 evidence supporting their theory. My theory is that the state is correct that Tyler Robinson
00:04:45 is a killer, at least based on evidence so far. And Candace's theory that Tyler Robinson is not
00:04:49 the killer and he's a patsy set up by the feds. To be clear, this is not a question of reasonable
00:04:54 doubt. If it was reasonable doubt, and that's all it was, and that's all Candace was proffering,
00:05:00 I wouldn't even be here having the debate with her.
00:05:02 It's fair to have doubts, as the trial has yet to occur,
00:05:05 and the state hasn't even begun to try to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt, 0.88
00:05:10 but Candace makes a more forceful claim.
00:05:13 She claims that there's more evidence that Tyler is not guilty of murder
00:05:16 and was set up as a patsy than there is for the state's case,
00:05:20 and I just think that that's absurd,
00:05:22 and she will not be able to demonstrate that in any way.
00:05:25 In fact, she has almost no real evidence at all of her theory,
00:05:27 whereas my theory is supported by compelling witness testimony,
00:05:31 physical evidence, multiple confessions,
00:05:34 all of which are independently compelling,
00:05:35 but which are even more convincing as each piece of evidence corroborates the others.
00:05:40 You'll notice the term overwhelming was included in both theories.
00:05:43 This is because Candace demanded I defend my use of that term,
00:05:47 which I think is fair,
00:05:49 in describing the evidence against Tyler Robinson.
00:05:51 She, on the other hand, only wanted to defend her theory as merely viable,
00:05:54 that is, until I showed her her clips in which she said
00:05:57 she believed the evidence of her theory that Tyler Robinson's impatsy was supported by overwhelming
00:06:02 evidence. Only then did she agree to defend that position. Regardless, we're both defending the
00:06:07 claim there's overwhelming evidence on our side, so it's worth defining that term. When I say the
00:06:12 evidence against Robinson's overwhelming, all I'm saying is that I mean that as of right now,
00:06:17 I find it very convincing. I see almost no evidence at all, only speculation on verified
00:06:22 claims and suggestions of things that could merely be hypothetically possible dreams vibes feelings
00:06:28 things like this almost done by the way i have no problem defending the state's case and welcome
00:06:33 candace bringing up any challenges she would like but if i'm honest the reason i was willing to pay
00:06:37 the three hundred thousand dollars was this for this debate was to finally have a chance for 1.00
00:06:41 someone to demand candace be held accountable for the unbelievable theories and claims she's been 1.00
00:06:45 making candace's investigation is indistinguishable from a leftist operation she couldn't be doing 1.00
00:06:52 more damage to the right if she were trying. She uses her considerable platform to relentlessly 1.00
00:06:56 attack one of the most influential conservative outreach organizations for young people, 0.98
00:07:01 and she's making a mockery of the online right-wing commentary class. She's harming 1.00
00:07:05 Republicans in an election year by dividing them. She's attacking the very organization 0.99
00:07:09 Charlie spent his life building, and she's attacking the people he loved, including his
00:07:13 wife, and it cost me $300,000, but today I hope that she finally answers for some of that.
00:07:19 Recently, our company's softball team lost the big game by one run.
00:07:23 Then Dale tried to console us with the quote,
00:07:26 winning isn't everything.
00:07:28 Well, Dale and I are very different.
00:07:31 I get early payout from Bet365.
00:07:33 If my team goes up big, I get paid out instantly,
00:07:36 even if they blow the lead later.
00:07:38 Sound familiar, Dale?
00:07:40 Thanks, Bet365.
00:07:41 Must be 19 or older, Ontario only.
00:07:43 Please play responsibly.
00:07:44 If you have questions or concerns about your gambling
00:07:45 or the gambling of someone close to you,
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00:07:50 Thank you, Andrew. Candice?
00:07:51 Did you get it out of your system?
00:07:53 I did.
00:07:53 Okay, great.
00:07:54 Well, I'm not going to waste time with the preamble
00:07:56 because I think I just want to get to the substance of the debate
00:07:58 and I will just speak to the audience.
00:08:00 I have obviously had an audience since we've been covering this case.
00:08:04 People know that there was a personal friendship between me and Charlie
00:08:08 and diminishing the pursuit of something that makes sense
00:08:13 regarding what happened on September 10th
00:08:15 by throwing it to, this is just people who are conspiracy theorists. These are people
00:08:20 who are just trying to generate clicks. I don't think that people should be satisfied by that.
00:08:25 I want people to remember that it's important to think. We've been lied to by the government
00:08:29 a great many times over, I mean, just the last couple of years, if you just think of the things
00:08:34 that we've learned about our government. And I do want to say this, what's been the most
00:08:39 disturbing element, I think, for everyone is that not only does the narrative not make any sense,
00:08:44 which I'm going to demonstrate I need to waste time with a preamble going through the points
00:08:47 or trying to insult you or pretending that I've been running a podcast saying it's just dreams and
00:08:51 vibes like I miss Cleo. And that's the reason why it's taking so many influencers. It looks like a
00:08:57 billion dollar industry of influencers to dispute everything Candace says. It's not because I'm on
00:09:02 my platform saying I had a dream last night. I don't think that that I think that diminishes you
00:09:06 as an argument. Obviously, we have presented a lot of evidence. You just presented a text message
00:09:11 and said, this is evidence. Well, that's how this entire thing began. You're talking about how
00:09:15 Israel got into the conversation. It was because immediately after Charlie died, one of the first
00:09:20 things we saw was this push to make us all think and remember how much he loved Israel. It's because
00:09:25 the prime minister of Israel, who's fighting like a 27 front war, felt that he needed to come do a
00:09:31 little mini tour and to be, strangely, to state that I did not kill Charlie Kirk when nobody
00:09:37 was having that thought that I can remember. Nobody was going, I wonder if Bibi Netanyahu
00:09:42 killed Charlie Kirk. And then we had a round of influencers who lied and said Charlie was not
00:09:50 changing on Israel, that he wasn't having any disagreements regarding that topic,
00:09:55 that the day he died, he just loved Israel so much. And I demonstrated via the text message,
00:09:59 which you just mentioned, and you're now contextualizing and pretending it was just
00:10:03 about Tucker Carlson, which is not true. It was a part of a broader shift that Charlie was having
00:10:09 over the last, I would say, actually on your show, it began since October 7th, which is when
00:10:15 I began asking myself more questions about Israel as well. And so, yeah, when all of these things
00:10:22 happen in the immediate aftermath, and then I drop a text message after everyone is denying that,
00:10:26 Tucker Carlson then comes out and confirms the conversations that he had with Charlie.
00:10:29 Megyn Kelly then comes out and confirms the private conversations that she had with Charlie.
00:10:33 people then begin to ask a reasonable question which is why are we lying about this if they were
00:10:40 forthcoming with that and they had said hey yeah charlie was starting to ask questions i think
00:10:46 after october 7th it's reasonable that people are starting to re-examine our relationship
00:10:50 uh with israel we wouldn't be here today but it has been lie after lie after lie debunk after
00:10:57 debunk after debunk yes i did share that i had a dream that charlie was betrayed it's not a dream
00:11:03 anymore. It's a reality. I look at what the organization has become, the people that they
00:11:07 are partnering with, the lies that they are telling, the extraordinary people that they're
00:11:11 sending out to say that I never, I hadn't speak to Charlie since 2018. And it begins to look like
00:11:16 a conspiracy. And just as a historical fact, that entire term was created by the CIA to gaslight
00:11:22 people after the assassination of JFK. So it's not exactly one that makes me nervous. Like calling
00:11:28 somebody a conspiracy theorist is essentially saying that they demand further answers. They're
00:11:33 not accepting the Fed slop. So I'm grateful that you came today. I don't need to, like I said,
00:11:38 take cheap shots and discuss your manner of debate or your strategy. And I'm also grateful that you
00:11:43 shared that you have that text message today because everybody watching knows that I have
00:11:48 been demanding not a debate, just an open conversation with Turning Point USA. They
00:11:52 should be here. It shouldn't be you in that chair. It should be the person that took Charlie's place,
00:11:56 maybe Erica Kirk, maybe Andrew Colbert, he's a spokesperson. And rather than doing that,
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00:13:02 one run. Then Dale tried to console us with the quote, winning isn't everything. Well, Dale and I
00:13:09 are very different. I get early payout from Bet365. If my team goes up big, I get paid out instantly,
00:13:15 even if they blow the lead later.
00:13:17 Sound familiar, Dale?
00:13:19 Thanks, Bet365.
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