Valuetainment - February 15, 2026


“Tricked Out By Uncle Jeffrey” - Ex-Obama Counsel RESIGNS Amid Epstein Files Fallout


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14 minutes

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296

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Kathy Remler, former White House counsel to President Obama, resigns over her ties to Jeffrey Epstein. Rob and Adam discuss the fallout, and why it matters. They also discuss why President Trump hasn t addressed the issue of Pam Bondi.

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00:00:00.000 They announced top Goldman Sachs lawyer, Kathy Romler, to resign over Epstein-Links.
00:00:07.120 What they forget to tell you is, this was Obama's main lawyer when Obama was president.
00:00:13.160 She was the main counsel.
00:00:15.120 So the way they wrote the title makes you seem like they're taking a shot at who?
00:00:18.860 At David Solomon.
00:00:19.920 And they're taking a shot at Goldman.
00:00:21.840 By the way, Rob, can you copy-paste her name and just go ask, who is she?
00:00:27.020 Okay?
00:00:27.260 Or go to her profile, LinkedIn, whatever you want to go to.
00:00:30.220 There you go.
00:00:30.680 Go a little bit lower, if you could.
00:00:33.000 Zoom in.
00:00:33.940 Zoom in, Rob.
00:00:34.640 Whoops.
00:00:35.200 There you go.
00:00:36.680 She was White House counsel to President Obama.
00:00:40.460 But no, they put Goldman Sachs.
00:00:42.020 What do you think is bigger?
00:00:43.980 White House, what storyline is a bigger storyline?
00:00:46.820 White House counsel to President Barack Obama fired due to ties to Epstein.
00:00:53.600 And, Rob, what came out in the Epstein files about her and Epstein?
00:00:57.160 I mean, the way they were speaking was very mushy-mushy, like the relationship is a little
00:01:01.720 bit...
00:01:02.160 She referred to him as Uncle Jeffrey.
00:01:04.160 I have a newscast where they talk about the gifts that she received as well, if you'd
00:01:07.240 like me to play.
00:01:07.540 Go ahead, Rob.
00:01:08.080 We begin here at 11 with breaking news.
00:01:11.200 There is new fallout amid the release of the Epstein files.
00:01:15.180 The top lawyer at Goldman Sachs, Kathy Remler, is stepping down after emails showed that she
00:01:21.860 had a close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:01:25.020 Remler was also White House counsel to former President Barack Obama.
00:01:28.600 Newly released documents show that she called Epstein Uncle Jeffrey and accepted luxury gifts
00:01:35.180 from the disgraced financier.
00:01:37.460 Her resignation takes effect June 30th.
00:01:40.420 And in a statement, Remler said in part,
00:01:42.960 my responsibility is to put Goldman Sachs' interests first.
00:01:47.180 The company's CEO said she will be missed.
00:01:50.320 I accepted her resignation and I respect her decision.
00:01:53.700 If this had been a conservative, the first two words would have been Trump lawyer quits.
00:02:00.440 Those would have been the first two words.
00:02:02.280 For sure.
00:02:02.680 But this is her current role right now, right?
00:02:04.600 That's why they're...
00:02:05.960 It doesn't matter, Adam.
00:02:07.200 She got a high-end Hermes back for $93.50.
00:02:11.520 She got multiple bottles of wine, boots, a watch, and other clothing items.
00:02:17.880 In one email she wrote, she was totally tricked out.
00:02:20.360 It was Jeffrey's boots, handback and watch, a Hermes Apple watch band.
00:02:26.440 She discussed which style she wanted in a 2018 email.
00:02:30.580 And some reports suggest luxury coats and additional accessories like designer fur,
00:02:37.040 trims, and other possible other gifts.
00:02:39.940 There you go.
00:02:40.880 I want to know why.
00:02:41.780 Why was he so close to her that he felt he had to swag her up like that?
00:02:46.780 Why?
00:02:47.440 That's what I want to know.
00:02:48.380 What was she doing for him?
00:02:49.340 What work was she doing?
00:02:50.900 He decided, man, I got to send swag.
00:02:53.960 I just got to light up her lobby with her assistant dropping all this stuff in.
00:02:59.200 Are you lacking, you know, are you discounting her ability to be a lawyer and practice law?
00:03:02.840 No, no, no.
00:03:03.760 I want to know what was she working on?
00:03:05.500 What projects was she working on?
00:03:07.440 Well, she exchanged 11,300 emails from 2014 to 2019.
00:03:14.740 With Epstein?
00:03:15.700 With Epstein.
00:03:16.340 14 to 19?
00:03:18.060 11,000?
00:03:19.760 11,300.
00:03:21.280 Was she working with Obama at the time?
00:03:24.180 14 she was.
00:03:25.900 From 2014 to 2019.
00:03:27.540 That's one direct message on 70% of the days.
00:03:31.780 And then banking billionaire Ariane de Rothschild sent or received 5,500 emails,
00:03:37.380 while former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers exchanged 4,300 emails.
00:03:42.480 So this is, I mean.
00:03:44.880 Epstein was into the Obama administration at least, you know, 2013, 14, until he left office in January of 17.
00:03:55.760 At least that.
00:03:56.520 There's the overlap.
00:03:57.300 We have the dates.
00:03:59.460 Summers was his treasury guy?
00:04:01.260 Yeah.
00:04:01.900 This is his lawyer?
00:04:03.040 Yeah.
00:04:03.240 So here's what I think is going on.
00:04:05.600 Because you asked about grading Pam Bondi and whether Trump is going to address this or now or kick the can down the road.
00:04:12.380 Here's my opinion.
00:04:13.540 I think Trump is going to kick the can down the road.
00:04:15.900 By the way, he's not kicking the can down the road on anything else.
00:04:20.240 Tariffs, border, Greenland, Gulf of America.
00:04:24.340 Pick an issue.
00:04:25.380 Trump's addressing it.
00:04:26.560 But why isn't Trump addressing this?
00:04:28.660 And why is this on Pam Bondi?
00:04:30.360 Here's my opinion.
00:04:32.040 It's kind of like the Cleveland Browns.
00:04:35.120 Systemically horribly bad football team.
00:04:37.760 They draft Shador Sanders.
00:04:39.620 He's an average to below average quarterback.
00:04:42.480 And everyone's focusing on him.
00:04:44.340 But nobody's focused on the fact that for 25 years, they've been horrible.
00:04:49.160 They haven't had a good quarterback in decades.
00:04:51.460 They haven't had a winning team basically ever.
00:04:54.180 So Pam Bondi, who's been the attorney general for a year, it's kind of like, what have you done for me lately?
00:05:00.140 And everyone's like, come on, Pam.
00:05:01.720 Let's go.
00:05:02.560 This is on you.
00:05:03.320 It's like, hold on.
00:05:05.360 Merrick Garland was the attorney general for four years.
00:05:08.940 What did he have to do with Epstein under Biden?
00:05:12.180 Before Merrick Garland, there was Bill Barr.
00:05:14.600 Bill Barr.
00:05:15.360 And then you've remembered Jeff Sessions.
00:05:17.300 And I don't recall.
00:05:18.400 He had to recuse himself.
00:05:19.860 What were they doing during all this?
00:05:21.340 By the way, Bill Barr has been in attorney general in politics so long, he was under the Trump administration and also under the Bush administration attorney general.
00:05:31.480 What does Bill Barr have to say about this?
00:05:33.880 So you have a cast of characters between Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, who was under Obama.
00:05:39.380 You have Alberto Gonzalez.
00:05:42.020 Janet Reno under Clinton.
00:05:43.380 This thing has been going on for decades.
00:05:46.120 And they want to put everything on Pam Blondie, who's clearly sort of unequipped to handle all this.
00:05:52.200 But the reality is, it's kind of like blaming Shador Sanders for why Cleveland Browns suck.
00:05:57.780 Your organization sucks.
00:05:58.480 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:05:59.440 And she's just the latest quarterback in a crappy team.
00:06:02.980 Adam, Adam, that mental yoga I got to back up on.
00:06:06.240 You want me to?
00:06:06.920 Nobody is putting it on.
00:06:08.280 Nobody is putting it on Pam Blondie.
00:06:10.380 We're looking at how she handled herself during a hearing.
00:06:14.260 You said it, and you're talking to the whole scandal and the whole thing, and there's some weird, odd football metaphor in there.
00:06:20.840 No one is putting the whole calamity on Pam Blondie.
00:06:23.640 You don't understand how football works?
00:06:24.200 There's a quarterback.
00:06:25.060 But they're talking about him.
00:06:25.680 And he's running the team.
00:06:26.500 Oh, stop.
00:06:27.080 You're always going to interrupt.
00:06:27.600 And if the quarterback sucks, you're going to blame the quarterback.
00:06:30.120 Stop, stop, stop, stop.
00:06:31.220 But the entire team sucks.
00:06:32.660 This is a tired technique.
00:06:34.200 So you think the entire team sucks?
00:06:35.020 This is such a tired technique, Adam.
00:06:36.360 I think people wish you'd knock it down.
00:06:37.720 No, not true.
00:06:38.200 That's my point.
00:06:39.200 Unbelievable.
00:06:39.680 It's the administrations that have been in there over and over.
00:06:42.560 Previously.
00:06:43.280 What?
00:06:43.700 Did Bill Barr?
00:06:44.860 Did Bill Barr speak on this?
00:06:46.600 Well, let's.
00:06:47.320 Did Eric Holder speak on this?
00:06:48.500 That's a very good point.
00:06:49.240 Did Merrick Garland speak on this?
00:06:50.820 These are the people who have been with the files for years and for decades.
00:06:54.540 And you want to put it on Pam Blondie?
00:06:55.640 By the way, so if you want to play this clip, Rob, because this is a very valid argument
00:06:59.500 to debate.
00:07:00.840 Play this clip.
00:07:02.560 Did you ask Merrick Garland that the last four years?
00:07:06.140 Did you talk about Epstein at all the last four years?
00:07:07.940 I am reclaiming my time.
00:07:09.300 I'm glad you're asking about Merrick Garland.
00:07:11.300 You don't get a reclaim time when you don't tweet when you can't tweet when you can't tweet
00:07:13.880 when you can't tweet when you can't tweet when you can't tweet when you can't tweet
00:07:13.900 when I don't answer your question the way you want.
00:07:15.480 This goes over four administrations.
00:07:17.700 You don't have to go back to Biden.
00:07:19.480 Let's go back to Obama.
00:07:20.660 Let's go back to George Bush.
00:07:21.940 This cover-up spans decades, and you are responsible for this portion of it.
00:07:27.760 Now, I want to know, at what point did the FBI and the DOJ decide that Lex Wessner was
00:07:35.880 not a co-conspirator?
00:07:37.500 Because our Epstein Files Transparency Act requires you, please put it back on the screen,
00:07:43.680 to release the internal decision about whether to prosecute him or not, and it's not in the
00:07:50.340 files, and it's not in the files for any of these other men.
00:07:53.180 I didn't even see this clip, but this is essentially what I'm saying.
00:07:55.700 Is that why you played this?
00:07:57.020 Yeah, no, no.
00:07:57.380 I'm playing it for a different reason.
00:07:58.500 I'm going to get you.
00:07:58.980 Go ahead.
00:07:59.140 Adam, Adam, you make a fantastic point.
00:08:01.840 No, no.
00:08:03.100 Hear me out.
00:08:03.720 This is your...
00:08:04.280 I understand a thousand percent your point.
00:08:06.500 Nobody talked about it.
00:08:07.680 Nobody cared about it.
00:08:08.600 The only problem about Pam Bondi, besides the connection of her and Florida and coming in
00:08:14.060 after Epstein and being the AG here, hear me out.
00:08:17.180 Don't make the promises.
00:08:19.000 Don't come in front of the camera and say, we have this, we have 10,000 videos, and we're
00:08:23.160 going to show you.
00:08:23.860 Don't be Kash Patel.
00:08:25.080 I agree with you.
00:08:25.500 Hold on.
00:08:26.080 Don't be Kash Patel and say this, and I'm going to do this on day one this.
00:08:30.480 You know what?
00:08:31.200 Those other idiots didn't make the promises because they all kept their mouths shut.
00:08:34.400 When you come out and say, I promise, I'm going to show you, I'm going to promise,
00:08:39.020 and then we ask for it, and you're blocking shit, and you're covering up stuff, you're deleting
00:08:43.100 this, and you're hiding co-conspirators, that's the difference.
00:08:46.580 You're right.
00:08:47.060 None of them talked about it because they're all implicated, all of their donors, all their
00:08:50.980 friends, all their people, all the judges, all the presidents, and everything.
00:08:54.420 Don't make the promise.
00:08:55.740 Keep your mouth shut.
00:08:57.040 That's how you kick the can down the street.
00:08:59.980 That's the problem.
00:09:00.860 She made the promise.
00:09:01.820 And don't go to lunch in Washington, D.C. and shoot your mouth off to somebody and get
00:09:06.180 overheard in a public restaurant.
00:09:08.040 Would you put Bam Bondi in the top five best performing people that they've appointed or
00:09:14.860 the bottom five?
00:09:15.680 Bottom five.
00:09:16.400 It's closer to the bottom, bro.
00:09:17.380 Okay.
00:09:17.660 Then guess what, guys?
00:09:19.020 Respectfully.
00:09:19.800 Okay.
00:09:20.060 There are certain jobs that everybody gets that's way over your head.
00:09:24.500 Okay?
00:09:25.200 It's happened to everybody.
00:09:26.740 You have to find a way to do the same thing you did to Waltz.
00:09:29.980 What was Michael Waltz?
00:09:30.880 What was the guy's name?
00:09:32.040 What was the guy that was signaling to Israel, whatever he was doing?
00:09:36.240 He's right.
00:09:36.580 And he had a big job.
00:09:37.520 Michael Waltz.
00:09:37.840 Michael Waltz, right?
00:09:39.080 We met him.
00:09:39.540 Mike Waltz.
00:09:40.000 Yeah.
00:09:40.280 Nice guy.
00:09:41.220 But guess what?
00:09:42.100 When that happened, what did they do?
00:09:43.620 Hey, you go to UN.
00:09:45.680 You go do, what was the job that he got?
00:09:47.620 Yeah, United States ambassador to UN.
00:09:49.820 Yep, yep.
00:09:50.080 You go do that.
00:09:50.840 You go over here.
00:09:51.600 We didn't fire you.
00:09:52.320 You saved face.
00:09:53.600 Take Bondi.
00:09:54.800 Move her off to a different job.
00:09:55.980 I agree.
00:09:56.480 I don't think this is Bondi's job.
00:09:58.120 I agree 100%.
00:09:58.800 I think then also the market will react in their own way, or Bondi can simply resign
00:10:04.700 and step down and go and do her own thing.
00:10:07.140 But I think this continuing this way, Trump, you know, we looked at some numbers.
00:10:14.040 You know what Trump's turnover ratio was in his first administration?
00:10:17.360 43% in the first year.
00:10:19.400 People are getting fired left and right.
00:10:21.240 You know what it is today?
00:10:22.520 28-29.
00:10:23.860 Trump's not firing people.
00:10:24.980 Yeah, man.
00:10:25.500 He's not firing people.
00:10:26.840 And he's got to sometimes.
00:10:28.820 I think he's got to fire somebody.
00:10:30.280 And this is not a good look because she made the promises.
00:10:35.220 She said, these are the things we're going to do.
00:10:37.580 Yep.
00:10:37.800 And she got caught with James O'Keefe.
00:10:40.560 And James probably likes Pam and didn't want to drop it.
00:10:45.360 And he sent it to them saying, we're about to drop this.
00:10:48.400 Then Pam comes in front of camera and says what they have.
00:10:51.580 That, you know, this is the point.
00:10:53.100 This is true story.
00:10:53.880 This is not like we're making stuff up.
00:10:55.720 So, for me, I think it's time.
00:10:57.940 I think it's time.
00:10:58.780 And I was hoping to see a different kind of a hearing.
00:11:01.420 I don't think she performed well at all.
00:11:02.940 I'll just go real quick.
00:11:04.380 I think the reason he's not firing these people who are, quote, unquote,
00:11:08.160 performing badly, Pam Bondi, Kristi Noem, Kash Patel,
00:11:12.860 is because they're doing what Trump wants them to do.
00:11:15.680 If they were stepping out of line, this is my opinion,
00:11:18.440 this is my opinion, they were stepping out of line for what Trump wanted,
00:11:22.040 they'd be gone in an instant.
00:11:23.460 You're fired.
00:11:24.780 You don't, what are the chances that Trump is having closed-door meetings
00:11:29.340 with Pam Bondi, Kristi Noem?
00:11:30.640 Of course he is.
00:11:31.140 And he's saying, Pam, I need you to do this.
00:11:33.420 Step up, Kristi.
00:11:34.460 You're doing this.
00:11:35.320 Put a little more makeup on.
00:11:36.460 Kash, let's go.
00:11:37.440 Get out there, buddy.
00:11:38.540 He's a leader.
00:11:39.540 And they're going to follow his lead.
00:11:41.100 So if they're stepping out of line, that's when I think they'll get fired.
00:11:44.400 If they're towing the company line and doing what Trump wants them to be doing,
00:11:48.860 I think that's why they're safe.
00:11:50.880 He keeps saying that Kristi Noem is doing a good job.
00:11:53.400 He keeps saying that Pam Bondi is doing a good job.
00:11:55.700 We see him very close with Lutnick.
00:11:57.680 If they were stepping out of favor, they'd be gone.
00:12:00.200 That's my opinion.
00:12:00.980 You're guessing it best.
00:12:02.520 And I'm not going to name names.
00:12:04.040 Pat knows what I'm talking about.
00:12:04.620 So what you're about to do is guess it best.
00:12:06.280 Go ahead.
00:12:06.540 No, no, no.
00:12:07.300 Not at all.
00:12:08.160 There are people that are there with the administration.
00:12:11.180 That's going to be the last one, and we're moving on.
00:12:12.600 Go ahead.
00:12:13.200 There are people with the administration who are stacking up what they see every day,
00:12:17.900 and not everybody is aligned with Trump.
00:12:20.540 Some people are ahead of Trump.
00:12:22.160 Some people are not ahead of Trump, and they're on point.
00:12:24.280 And Pat and I heard a list that went top to bottom that we're not going to repeat that was factual.
00:12:29.940 I'm not guessing.
00:12:31.100 Not all that cabinet is aligned, and they're not gathering with a huddle and following the boss the way you just indicated.
00:12:38.880 So let's just leave that there.
00:12:40.500 Not everybody is there.
00:12:41.720 Then they would be fired.
00:12:42.660 They're making action.
00:12:43.440 He made—if you—OK, we'll get elected president, and then you can take care of it.
00:12:48.040 But that's what's going on.
00:12:48.900 That makes no sense.
00:12:50.300 All right.
00:12:50.640 Let's go to the next story.
00:12:51.500 Let's go to the next story, next story, next story.
00:12:53.020 A new Faith Over Fear hat is coming soon to a theater near you, but I just wanted to—this morning I was listening to Billy Graham,
00:13:00.080 which, Pat, you told me to listen to him.
00:13:01.980 You're like, you know, Vinny, dive in and listen to him.
00:13:03.700 So I'm getting ready in the morning.
00:13:05.020 I'm just listening to Billy Graham, and he said something that I hadn't heard in a while,
00:13:09.020 and it was the Apostle Thomas.
00:13:10.760 When Jesus rose from the dead, Thomas wasn't there to see the resurrection.
00:13:15.200 So Thomas goes, I'll believe that he rose if I get to put my hands in his wounds and in his side.
00:13:20.220 So then he finally sees Jesus, and he goes in there.
00:13:22.980 He goes, go ahead, Thomas, go ahead, put your hands in here.
00:13:25.160 And Jesus looks at him and goes, because you have seen me, you believe.
00:13:28.420 Blessed of those who haven't seen me and still believe.
00:13:31.560 And in that moment, Tom, it hit me.
00:13:33.020 He's talking about us, OK?
00:13:34.820 We weren't there.
00:13:35.660 We didn't see Jesus walk.
00:13:36.700 We didn't see him die.
00:13:37.380 We didn't see him rise from the dead, but we believe, and that is faith in real time.
00:13:42.700 And he's talking about us.
00:13:43.640 And the last one, you mentioned the story about the Nigeria that we're sending 200 troops.
00:13:48.300 Trump is sending 200 troops.
00:13:49.400 They're saying they're not going to do anything crazy.
00:13:51.000 But think about that.
00:13:52.340 Think about the priests.
00:13:53.200 Think about the parishioners in those churches that were bombed and murdered and slaughtered.
00:13:57.220 And they were in that church praying and saying, please, help.
00:14:00.920 That is faith over fear in real time.
00:14:03.780 And that's what we're about.
00:14:04.820 And that's what the brand is about.
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00:14:09.360 and just tap me on the back and go, I'm with you.
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