Valuetainment - July 11, 2026


＂Turkey's Been Loyal” - Trump Praises Erdogan While Calling Out NATO


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Length

13 minutes

Words per minute

199.19

Word count

2,647

Sentence count

155

Harmful content

Toxicity

3

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Hate speech

6

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Summary

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Erdogan and Bibi don't get on the same page. Trump and Turkey don't like each other. Israel and Turkey aren't best friends. Trump wants to get rid of sanctions on Turkey. Israel doesn't like Turkey.

Transcript

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00:00:00.260 Yesterday, the president is sitting with Erdogan.
00:00:04.180 Erdogan's not a fan of E.B.
00:00:06.480 Turkey and Israel are not best friends.
00:00:08.560 It's not like they're hanging out.
00:00:09.760 They don't go to, you know, have drinks together.
00:00:12.200 They don't go watch movies.
00:00:13.140 Like, the chance of them watching a movie together,
00:00:14.960 Young Washington, slim to none, right?
00:00:16.700 That's not going to happen. 0.99
00:00:17.420 Not even Chai.
00:00:18.180 While he's sitting there,
00:00:19.800 he is talking about removing the sanctions.
00:00:23.460 I don't know if you got the videos of,
00:00:25.860 if you want to pull that up.
00:00:26.840 So I want you to watch this video here, folks,
00:00:28.440 how openly the president is speaking and saying,
00:00:31.540 yeah, Erdogan doesn't like Bibi.
00:00:33.580 And if it wasn't for me, dot, dot, dot.
00:00:36.160 Watch this clip here. Go for it.
00:00:39.820 There you come. I don't like much.
00:00:42.120 I like Erdogan. I'll tell you.
00:00:44.640 I like President Erdogan.
00:00:46.400 He rolled out the red carpet. He's terrific.
00:00:48.780 You know, he could have gone into the war.
00:00:49.900 A lot of people saying, like with Bibi, I like Bibi.
00:00:52.560 I think Bibi was a terrific wartime prime minister.
00:00:56.160 it but bb said rough things yesterday about turkey and erwin and i said you know i spoke to him i
00:01:02.640 said he could have gone into the war because he doesn't like israel much and he doesn't like bb
00:01:07.600 much and he didn't go because of me and this is a military power millions of soldiers turkey is
00:01:16.400 very strong they have a lot of our best equipment they're trying to get the f-35s but he didn't go
00:01:22.160 in he wanted he would go in if it weren't for me he would have gone in and he would have been on the
00:01:27.440 other side but they're a couple i don't like so how do you process that tom how do you process
00:01:32.080 what he's saying here and the way he's positioning wanting to remove sanctions of turkey how big of a
00:01:36.160 deal is that a lot of people are not happy some people are happy where do you stand with this
00:01:40.480 well there's there's two countries that he's been talking about and one is turkey and the other is
00:01:44.480 syria and people will say that the guy that's leading syria is you know an ex-thug ex-terrorist 0.97
00:01:51.040 He is a terrorist. But the fact is Syria's position has moved against Iran and it has moved positively. 0.86
00:01:58.840 They're not saints. And I don't think you trust them with your lunch money. 0.99
00:02:03.120 But things have moved. And Trump wants Syria to do more.
00:02:07.180 Trump also wants to everybody to be reminded that Turkey is a war power.
00:02:14.400 Three things he said. They got some of our best equipment.
00:02:17.280 they want the F-35s. Translation, maybe we're doing a deal, maybe we'll talk about that.
00:02:22.560 And he said, you know what, I like him. And so the rest of the world hears, I like Turkey,
00:02:28.400 they're a war power, they have our best equipment, and they're asking for the F-35s,
00:02:32.960 leaving the rest of the world to say, oh Lord, don't give them that in addition to all this
00:02:36.760 other equipment. So I think Trump is drawing a line there. And there was a great game a long
00:02:43.340 time ago, it was called Diplomacy. And Diplomacy was on a board and it showed old Europe, Pat.
00:02:48.500 And you would sit there and put your pieces on there and then talk to people about who you're
00:02:53.380 going to support. I'll support you, but I'll support him in an attack against this other guy.
00:02:59.440 And then at the end of it, after we all have our moves, which we put on paper, we put in the
00:03:03.820 middle. And then we read out all the results. And guess what? Usually the people that had the
00:03:10.140 strongest alliances win and i think trump is trying to build alliances and keep people in a
00:03:17.020 state of stasis and stasis is like we have the nitro and the glycerin in two separate jugs but
00:03:23.700 they're still next to each other and he's trying to keep through strong diplomacy people from
00:03:29.780 attacking each other and to remind people who is the linchpin all this and it's united states of
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00:04:05.720 fordstore or ford.ca today adam where are you at with this how do you process this
00:04:10.420 so trump breaking down the relationship between bb netanyahu israel and turkeys
00:04:16.360 removing talking about removing sanctions and uh while openly discussing the fact that erdogan
00:04:23.500 doesn't like bb and still didn't attack israel how do you process all of that yeah well look in
00:04:29.800 in geopolitics, Trump has become a master. His first term, he was, I don't know, just above
00:04:36.140 water. Right now, I think he's sort of moving and grooving and knows what he's doing. And he
00:04:39.840 realizes that diplomacy, like Tom said, is essential, meaning you could be friends with
00:04:45.100 two people who are mortal enemies. The old enemy of enemy is my friend. The reality is Erdogan in
00:04:51.620 Turkey has made Turkey stronger than it's ever been. But also he's a legit authoritarian. He's
00:04:59.160 trying to make basically make the Ottoman Empire great again. And I don't know, you might have some
00:05:03.960 Armenian and Assyrian and Greek friends that don't want to hear that news. But Trump doesn't really
00:05:08.540 necessarily care about that. He wants to basically make a deal. And the deal on the table is, let's
00:05:13.640 see what let's see what happens. He has no loyalty when it comes to a deal. He has there's three
00:05:18.440 different camps. There's friends, there's enemies, and there's frenemies. So we know who our allies
00:05:24.680 are israel is an ally despite all the rhetoric out there we know who our enemies are out there 0.76
00:05:29.880 for sure iran russia china turkey is what i would call someone in the middle which is a frenemy
00:05:35.400 they could go either way and i think the way that trump structures deals is let's take this
00:05:40.040 frenemy and try to make him a friend try to fit this uh round cube into the square box as they say
00:05:47.000 we'll see what happens but i do think that trump has the ability to be friends with some bad bad
00:05:51.560 dudes some bad hombres and erdogan is one of them vinny well pat i think tom when tom said the word
00:05:57.140 uh diplomacy i mean i can't it always goes back to my mind imagining if let's just say i don't
00:06:04.640 know how biden was doing it who was calling the shots his wife or or whoever but the diplomacy
00:06:09.260 part of how much trump is such an alpha boss where he could sit there and say listen i'm cool with
00:06:15.980 this guy and i'm cool with this guy and they hate each other and the reason that everything hasn't
00:06:20.620 gone off the rails is because of me and you have to give him credit for it okay he walks in the
00:06:25.100 rooms and he tells him hey guys the boss is here and he is put yourself in the mindset Tommy if
00:06:30.040 Kamala Harris I have I always like oh my god if Kamala Harris was in charge who knows how these
00:06:36.100 people would be going at it it's like having it's like being a parent Tom and and having two of the
00:06:40.700 kids that want to go after each other if you're not a strong parent they're going to beat the
00:06:44.900 crap out of each other and everybody in the house is going to suffer and I and again we criticize
00:06:49.440 him i have my my you know hiccups about trump and some of the decisions he made but in this type of 0.98
00:06:53.780 situation with diplomacy and where we're leaders that have bombs and tom think about it he's
00:06:58.160 basically saying we sell stuff to israel and we sell stuff to turkey too best equipment best
00:07:03.560 equipment and now we're talking about our best of the best fighter jets that we want to give them
00:07:07.360 so i think in this situation he's you nailed it tom nitro and glycerin right next to each other
00:07:12.580 and trump is just that like that little border that keeps them from igniting trump's a boss i
00:07:17.120 I mean, it was once said, and I love this line.
00:07:19.480 I think it was Giscard D'Estaing or Neville Chamberlain.
00:07:21.740 I don't know who they attribute it to.
00:07:23.200 I've seen it attributed a lot.
00:07:24.600 The art of diplomacy sometimes is telling the other man to go to hell in such a way that he really looks forward to the trip.
00:07:31.620 That's hilarious.
00:07:32.120 The question here becomes, who releases this?
00:07:38.060 Does he need Congress for this sanction to be released?
00:07:41.440 And if he does, is Congress happy about this?
00:07:44.080 Is Congress sitting there saying, yes, let's do this?
00:07:46.100 Or can he just go to Rubio and text it and say, guys, let's start working on this?
00:07:49.780 What is the process with this, Tom, of removing sanctions?
00:07:52.340 It depends on where these sanctions were.
00:07:53.740 Were they trade sanctions or were they presidential purview sanction?
00:07:56.920 And I confess I didn't do the research on that.
00:07:59.120 Yeah, I'm curious to know what the process with this would be.
00:08:03.040 Because is he saying this and then putting it out there where Erdogan says, like, oh, he's open to the idea, but he knows on the back end Congress is not going to pass it.
00:08:12.660 So it's like, yeah, I try to do it, but it's on Congress.
00:08:15.000 Don't get upset at me.
00:08:15.760 The Congress is the one I really want to – so this is a very tricky situation because you're putting the – I wonder if this is a Congress issue.
00:08:26.820 He's always –
00:08:27.920 Well, I think so bad because if with tariffs he has to go to them and they can knock it down, I don't see why this wouldn't be something as well.
00:08:34.140 Well, let's look at this here.
00:08:34.620 The core sanctions on Turkey were Russian as far as the program were codified by Congress at the CAATSA, CAATSA, and the provisions of the National Defense Authorization Act because they are in the statute.
00:08:45.940 The president cannot just erase them by executive or Congress has to change or waive.
00:08:50.280 OK, so that's the issue right there.
00:08:51.560 So they got put in a statute, not an executive order.
00:08:54.140 You could just say, I changed my mind.
00:08:55.700 To me, to me, this may be a because Bibi's sitting there saying, dude, what are you doing? 0.67
00:09:03.020 Turkey's already that strong. 0.63
00:09:04.260 what are you doing with this okay this is what i'm capable of doing this is what i'm capable of
00:09:08.660 doing uh and we know the position with iran's change let me tell you this story it's one of
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00:10:59.960 And they've never been zapped.
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