“Twitter Noise Is IRRELEVANT＂ - Trump’s Approval Numbers EXPLODE In SHOCKING Poll
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Summary
In this episode, Pat and Rob discuss the latest Wall Street Journal hit piece on Trump, the latest poll on Trump's approval rating among Republicans, and the problem with social media: it's all just noise. Also, a new piece from the New York Times/WSJ on why Americans trust the Republican Party more than the Democrats.
Transcript
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While this is going on, Rob, can you pull up the hit piece on Trump?
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This is supposed to be a hit piece on Trump that we're talking about, okay?
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It's Trump's economy, and voters are unhappy with it.
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Go all the way to the bottom of the poll and just show, you know which one I'm talking about?
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When you look at the headline, you're thinking they're not happy with Trump.
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Now, when they asked him who they trust with the economy more, here's what the answer in the reports came along.
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It asked which party in Congress, Republican or Democrats, is better to handle various issues.
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Economy, Republicans 38, Democrats 32, Republicans plus 6.
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Inflation and rising prices, Republicans 38, Democrats 32 plus 6 for Republicans.
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Tariffs, Republicans 36, Democrats 34 plus 2 for Republicans.
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Tom, how do you process this when you see a number like this?
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An article that's supposed to be bad against Trump, but this is what the American people are saying.
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So, friends of the podcast, we speak to a lot of people in polling.
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The Atlas Intel people, the Rasmussen people, Rich Barris.
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So, and what we have right now is a problem of personalization.
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The media has personalized the problems of the average American or the concerns of the average American and personalized that as Donald Trump's problem.
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But when you back up and you start asking him things like this, this happens.
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You know, if you go back literally 20 years ago, Jay Leno, Tonight Show, used to do a thing in Burbank called jaywalking.
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And Jay would go walk up and down the street and he would ask people like five questions.
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And he said, do you know that that's exactly what Governor Gray Davis thinks?
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You just picked five things and Gray Davis is trying to do that for your governor.
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Now, I didn't particularly like Gray Davis at all.
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You ask people these things and it means like they would trust Republicans more issue by issue by issue,
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especially on keeping the border secure, number one, and controlling who comes across it, immigration, number two.
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Yet, when you personalize it, oh, you know, don't like Trump.
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But an interesting thing came out this weekend.
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Last Friday came out Trump's approval rating among Republicans, all-time high for his administration.
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So there are people on the personalization side that are on the conservative side that are saying,
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I don't like what everything's going, but I really approve of my guy.
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95% of Republicans still approve of Trump's overall.
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No, that means the noise in Twitter is irrelevant.
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That means the noise online nobody in America is following.
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That means it's just purely noise if you think about it.
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You did this research and you shared with us on this podcast, I think a week ago.
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The research, I guess, you and Rob, you dug up.
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Yeah, but that makes you think because America is not Twitter.
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You have to remember that because I get lost in the noise.
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You know, they put out these messages that, you know, the rights fractured.
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And if you live in that Twitter world, you think there's absolute chaos.
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But then you come back to this and you see there's a lot of security.
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So when it's in your favor, you can think you're ahead and it flips.
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The one part that I do think, if things go the way it is right now, how bad will midterms be?
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It will not be as bad as everybody thinks, but Republicans will lose the House.
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It will not be as bad, but they'll lose the House.
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It will not be like a blue wave, but it's going to flip.
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Anyone who makes predictions usually is wrong because look what happened last midterms when it's going to be a red wave and it was nothing.
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All you can do is control the controllable and do what's in front of you.
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So, you know, in America today, you have to remember it's a binary situation.
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So if you go to the average person and go, hey, how do you think Trump's doing?
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Well, how would you compare Trump to a Gavin Newsom?
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So if you just try to analyze Trump, it's very easy to be critical of somebody.
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When you compare them to a worse option, the lesser of two evils, then you understand.
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There's a lot of people putting up what they think is going to happen.
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It could be that this is just a glitch in the system or sugar high because of this ICE thing.
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We have nine months until we actually have to vote.
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What drives me crazy is we are running the show.
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The president Republican, the House Republican, we are in charge, and it feels like nothing
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is being done to get stuff done or to protect the people that need your freaking protection.
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And I know I just said it, Pat, but enough of this nonsense of we're going to do this.
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Another year, a year and a couple months, it's over.
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You want to talk about evil, white, liberal women?
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Is this the Jennifer Welch interview where she said, when we take over, we should arrest
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Look, guys, and listen, when they tell you what they're going to do, listen to them.
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She's the white, liberal woman that I'm telling you about.
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When I tell people the enemy from within, listen to what she has to say.
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This language gets a little salty, too, by the way.
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The blue tsunami means that Congress is going to haul Elon Musk, big balls, and a bunch of
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other people's ass in front and say, what crimes did you commit?
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And the same with Trump, because I believe, and this is just my opinion, that Trump and
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all of the bottom-feeding morons surrounding him and Elon Musk and all the bottom-feeding
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clinger-oners that surround him, I think they commit crimes every day.
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And I think to reconcile all of this is going to take hardcore, not-integrity Democrats.
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We're going to uncover every document, every phone call, everything you did.
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And that's the mindset they've got to have, because I think the electorate is going from,
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we've got to get him out, but also we want accountability.
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You have to have a situation where there's accountability.
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And Rob, you can stop and they go on back, like, this is what they're about.
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And I wish, I wish the Republicans had that much of a backbone and that much of a constitution,
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because they're like, we're going to go after you.
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And we're just sitting here, we've been waiting since 2016, nobody, Russia collusion, COVID,
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If I hear we're launching another thing, they've, they've launched more investigations
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than Elon Musk has launched freaking Starlinks into outers.
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I get very frustrated when I see the speaker of the house that looks like a high school math teacher
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trying to tell me there's a shooter in the building and we have an emergency.
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Mike Johnson just doesn't feel to me like, and I don't see things that say he's taking a leadership position.
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So it's funny you use the word leadership, backbone, and constitution.
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I want to see him take a backbone with our constitution and exhibit some leadership.
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Everything you say, I'm as emotional as you are below the surface on all those issues.
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Pat, what I want, I want to see some leadership leading forward.
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Somebody get upset and say, listen, man, this is not just a messaging.
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The messaging I want to see out on the street is put, is this message.
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So what's, so both sides are wanting to see a rest is what you're saying.
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Well, one side has used the government in ways that are unbelievably unethical.
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The FISA abuse story that took place that got no attention.
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Tulsa Gabbard went up and said, we have FBI that is testifying.
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The things that the left has done in terms of government abuse, activating it to go against political opponents.
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You just haven't seen that on the right in return.
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So when one side saying we want to rest, we want to rest for actual crimes.
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The other side is saying we want to use the government beyond its capacity to go after political opponents.
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Because we don't like you and what you believe in.
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And because you don't agree with us, you're a threat.
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And so, Pat, it makes me, Ilan, lose faith that there is a left and a right.
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And they just have us running around like idiots because they're all, when they say, I'm going to reach out to my friend on the opposite side of the aisle.
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Yes, Trump came in and he's a badass and he's doing his thing.
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But when it comes to holding themselves accountable, bro, it's House of Cards 101.
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That's all they do is they all scratch each other's back and none of them go to prison.
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This is what we saw in the polls three weeks ago.
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Why is the average person so upset at Congress that they only have a 17% approval rating?
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Number one, I believe there are two systems of justice.
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And that's the two things that the voter has been carrying in their gut when they look at all this.
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So we need to be very careful on how we address women.
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At this point, I think I need to be the pragmatic patriot.
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And if you've been following most elections, it always kind of comes down to the wire.
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3% is the margin of error, right, when you're doing polling.
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So if it's a close election and you know that, I think the latest stat is 63% of women vote versus 59% of men.
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So let's say I fundamentally agree with angry patriot Vinny O'Shaughna.
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The average woman goes, yeah, I don't really like his tone.
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But there's a whole other side that we need to not curry favor with them.
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What percentage of those people get turned off by things they see, whether it's ICE, whether it's racism, whether it's far-right stuff?
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So we need to be very careful not to lose women while making our point.
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Adam, now tell us, what do you think we do about it with what you just said?
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Good luck yelling at her or trying to convince her logically.
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If you say, like, I got in a little stupid fight with my girl this weekend.
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And her whole thing was, can you just be nicer when you say it?
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Sometimes the way you say things does matter, especially when you're trying to win elections.
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Adam, so say you're under arrest, you're going back to Guatemala, Vinny's way, and then say it your way.
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It's not, what are you trying to get me in a little scenario here?
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I'm saying that lady right there is obviously, who's the lady?
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So it's just about being a little bit more palatable to the common sense voter.
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I'm just saying, if you're going to be the words, talk, numbers, scream guy, the numbers are screaming more women vote than men.
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Women tend to be a little bit more emotional, less logical.
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These women saw Kamala and all her BS and the billions of dollars put behind her.
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And they went, we don't want that woman because that woman is full of you know what?
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And he's going to take this country and he's going to lead us to victory.
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Because these people aren't used to, Adam, think about the soft leaders we had.
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From Obama to all these guys, they just want to say the right thing and no action, zero action.
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This is the father that's coming in that's laying down the law.
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I don't think watering down the message because, Adam, we went from trans dancing into the military to the secretary of war.
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And I don't give a damn about Jennifer Welch and her evil freaking face and trying to push people towards the darkness.
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We are winning so hard, but the media is run by the same evil people that run the media are running the left.
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And these women need to understand if they become and they start voting for the Mamdani's and the softer and the, guess what?
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You're going to be a second class citizen just like they are taught in their book to treat your ass.
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Answer this because there's a trending thing all over social media right now.
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Now, 2016 versus 2026, is Trump the same person he was 10 years ago?
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All the investigations and everything are coming at him.
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So is he speaking a little bit more moderately and pragmatic?
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Would it be fair to say that Trump is a different person these days than 10 years ago, the way that he acts?
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And he does have replacing himself and somebody taking over.
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He's not on the ballot, but his administration is.
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He's not, but when it's time to be tough, he's still being tough.
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But he is definitely a lot more gentler and a lot more smoother than he was 10 years ago.
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But you have to realize, you know, when you watch somebody play games,
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if somebody is better at playing games than you, you're going to lose.
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Remember when Marco Rubio was going against Trump and he tried to be Trump?
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Remember when Ted Cruz was going against Trump and he tried to be Ted Cruz?
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He should have never done it because he says, you know, I've never said anything about him.
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And trust me, there's a lot of subject matter there for me to make fun of Rand Paul.
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So, you know, you don't play a game against somebody that was born that way.
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This guy was born to troll the hell out of you.
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You don't think Trump upset his dad and his mom?
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You don't think Trump's been that guy since he was 6, 7, 8, 10 years old?
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If you go up against manipulators, okay, who know how to manipulate better than you,
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and you try to beat them, they've been doing this for 50 years.
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I was on a call with a guy that's a very well-known guy in media this weekend.
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We had an hour and a half call together about Iran.
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He says, look, you have to realize one thing we're better than, the Republicans, the Democratic side, we know how to make a lot of noise.
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We know how to make a problem that's a 3, make it seem like a 9.
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I mean, literally, the Democratic Party is LeBron James when he flops.
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The Democratic Party and LeBron James, they're identical.
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Have you ever seen these clips where Jason Tatum just goes this way, doesn't even touch LeBron.
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LeBron all of a sudden goes like this, gets a father, going the other way, right?
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Michael Jordan was a Republican the way he played.
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You had to really hurt him for him to act like he was hurt.
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Because one's a victim and one's a victor at the end of the day.
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But I got to tell you, though, there are a lot of people that voted 95% support what Trump is doing.
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There's some people right now that are waiting, saying, is anyone going to get arrested?
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Are you going to walk in and guys coming out getting arrested?
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And the process, unfortunately, when you're doing it legally, is a lot slower than when you're doing it illegally.
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Meaning, if you want to illegally get Trump to take a mugshot, it's easy.
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If you want to legally get Trump to take a mugshot, it's not fast.
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I think they're eventually going to get to it, but it may be too late.
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