Valuetainment - December 20, 2025


＂Used Me To Create Crisis” - Ex-Honduran President ALLEGES Kamala's Role In Narco Trafficking SETUP

Topics
narco-dictatorship
Hosted by
Patrick Bet-David
Mentioned
Xiomar Castro Sam Harris Carlos Zelaya Manuel Zelaya Juan Orlando Pam Bondi Tuscaneiro Lady Matt
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Length

10 minutes

Words per minute

145.61

Word count

1,458

Sentence count

97


Summary

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Former president of Honduras, Manuel Zelaya, talks about his trial and the events leading up to it. He also talks about the connection between the drug trade and the political system in Honduras and Venezuela, and how this ties into his case.

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00:00:00.000 But then, that's the reason because the former Vice President Kamala Harris
00:00:05.220 went to the inauguration of the Lady President Xiomara Castro.
00:00:10.360 And the same day, at the same time that they were having a meeting,
00:00:15.600 the Vice President Harris and the President Xiomara Castro,
00:00:20.460 was the time in which they were putting my indictment over here.
00:00:26.040 You see how synchronized it was?
00:00:28.040 Okay, so the same day that this meeting happens, this picture right here,
00:00:32.680 which is Kamala Harris and Xiomara Castro are meeting,
00:00:36.700 on that same day, you get indicted?
00:00:39.940 Yes.
00:00:41.360 Same exact day?
00:00:42.600 The same exact day.
00:00:43.520 Okay, so now, so what the average person would speculate is the fact that
00:00:49.140 they came in, supported her to indict you to say,
00:00:55.440 you do that, we'll back you up.
00:00:57.280 Is that what you're speculating or what happened?
00:01:00.380 It is not just speculation.
00:01:01.560 It is what has happened.
00:01:03.400 But also, in addition to that, you see this.
00:01:08.240 They, the left in Honduras is really close with the left in Venezuela.
00:01:14.700 They are so close that you see the connection with the,
00:01:20.180 the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, said it about three, four months ago,
00:01:24.960 that the Honduran government was receiving money to allow drugs coming from Venezuela,
00:01:31.980 passing through Mexico.
00:01:34.280 He, she said it because she knew something about that.
00:01:38.380 And have you heard about the Cartel de los Soles?
00:01:41.540 That's the cartel in Venezuela.
00:01:43.840 The thing is this.
00:01:45.060 When I was in office, I called the Venezuelan ambassador during my first term.
00:01:51.340 And I told Mr. Ambassador, we have a problem.
00:01:54.300 Two things.
00:01:54.900 A lot of Venezuelans are here in Honduras.
00:01:58.780 They are claiming that your government is having a repression.
00:02:04.640 You don't allow them to go to the street and you don't respect the result of the election.
00:02:10.980 And the other thing is, look at these maps.
00:02:15.240 Look at these prices.
00:02:18.080 You know, flights coming from Venezuela to Honduras.
00:02:23.060 I said, I already spoke to the president in Colombia, and they are helping us to stop that.
00:02:29.220 Because in my government, we create like a maritime chill in the Atlantic,
00:02:34.740 and an aerial chill in the air, and land chills to stop drugs coming through our territory.
00:02:42.520 And so I am going to ask you, ask the president of your country to help us to stop this.
00:02:50.200 And I asked him three times.
00:02:52.140 And at the end, I said, if you don't have an answer in the next 15 days,
00:02:57.380 you are going to have to leave my country because you don't want to help us with the main problem that we have.
00:03:02.640 And at the end, he said, I haven't had any answer from my government.
00:03:08.060 And this is Venezuela.
00:03:08.980 This is Venezuela.
00:03:09.780 The same guys.
00:03:11.860 So the left in Honduras and the left in Venezuela, they started a campaign saying that they were calling me a dictator
00:03:19.720 because I was using the military to stop violence.
00:03:23.780 Then they said narco-dictatorship.
00:03:26.220 But the reason because they launched that campaign was because they were trying to hide the links that the Libre party,
00:03:38.200 the very left party in Honduras, had with the narcos.
00:03:42.060 Now it is public, a video, that I couldn't see it properly during my trial because I didn't have the time.
00:03:50.380 I see it with more time after my trial.
00:03:54.840 And the video is so clear.
00:03:58.240 The brother of the former president, who is the brother-in-law of the lady president,
00:04:06.400 was seated with the main narcos in Honduras, making deals, saying, the narcos was saying,
00:04:13.160 the only chance that we have is for these guys to win.
00:04:17.340 And if they win, they are going to get rid of the extradition and the other laws that I had created when I was a speaker.
00:04:26.000 At that time, it was about three weeks before the election that I won to Xiomara Castro.
00:04:33.220 But also they said, if we don't do this, we are, I don't want to say the word, but it was a curse word,
00:04:42.640 like they were going to be very complicated.
00:04:46.420 And so that video is exculpatory.
00:04:50.120 But they didn't allow me to use it in my trial.
00:04:53.120 Is that video public?
00:04:54.200 It is public.
00:04:55.320 And is it in Spanish or is it in English?
00:04:57.460 It is in Spanish and translated to English.
00:05:00.460 Do we have that video?
00:05:01.320 I'm going to find it right now.
00:05:02.480 I think you do.
00:05:04.640 Was it in the email that was sent to him?
00:05:06.800 I think so.
00:05:07.420 Okay.
00:05:07.760 Can you look for, and what would be the video if he wanted to look for it?
00:05:10.580 What word should he type to find a video?
00:05:13.860 Xiomara?
00:05:14.760 No.
00:05:15.180 It was Carlos Zelaya.
00:05:17.380 Type in Control-F Carlos.
00:05:19.420 Carlos Zelaya and narcos.
00:05:22.600 Could be libre narcos meeting.
00:05:24.980 And at the end, they were in agreement saying that they were going to support what I think was $650,000 and some other help to win the election.
00:05:44.620 So they wanted them, the radical left, to win the election in order for me to lose because I was, they know what's going to happen if I win.
00:05:54.760 And when I win, when I won, we seized almost a billion dollars.
00:06:01.740 And this guy was the same guy who was on my trial, and when he was asked, if you are accusing Juan Orlando of this, do you have any evidence?
00:06:11.420 And he said, no, I don't have anything.
00:06:13.680 Do you have any record of calls?
00:06:16.580 Do you have a video?
00:06:17.780 Do you have an audio?
00:06:18.700 Do you have a document?
00:06:19.480 I don't have.
00:06:20.020 But you do have a lot of videos from other people.
00:06:23.880 And he said, yes, I did.
00:06:26.100 And this is also that I haven't said it before.
00:06:30.900 When I was reviewing my, they call it discovery, I saw the interviews that this guy have with the DA.
00:06:40.560 They met in Belize, and this meeting was published by the New York Times a week before I won the election.
00:06:49.540 They were starting to have a meeting to work together.
00:06:55.060 So he was asked, he and his brother, tell us the names of the Honduran politicians, public officials, that you worked with and you paid them in order to do your business of narco-trafficing.
00:07:09.980 So they give a lot of names, but they didn't mention my name.
00:07:13.520 And at that time, I was the most recognized politician because I just a couple of weeks have won the election.
00:07:21.740 Why they didn't mention me at all for three years that they were talking with the DA.
00:07:29.000 They mentioned me after because they knew that that was the jail-free card that they need.
00:07:36.500 And when he was asked on trial, so tell us, why did you leave Honduras and came to the United States?
00:07:45.600 And he said, well, because we were afraid of the extradition.
00:07:48.680 We were afraid of being incarcerated in Honduras.
00:07:52.220 And so how he was saying that he was protected.
00:07:55.880 And this is the kind of witnesses that they presented in my trial.
00:07:59.260 So that's interesting.
00:08:01.700 So Kamala comes in.
00:08:05.320 Xiomara's brother was involved.
00:08:08.540 Rob, do you have that clip?
00:08:09.800 I do.
00:08:10.200 So let's look at this.
00:08:11.100 Can you go back and verify what he just said?
00:08:12.820 You just had something pulled up right there.
00:08:14.660 September 2024, an investigative organization and side crime released a video recorded in 2013 that purposely, purportedly showed Carlos Zelaya,
00:08:23.980 which is the brother, a prominent congressman and brother of current first gentleman, Manuel Zelaya,
00:08:28.620 at a meeting with the leaders of Los Cachiros, drug trafficking organization.
00:08:35.020 The discussion in the video, the drug traffickers discussed offering more than $525,000 in bribes,
00:08:40.540 some of which claimed would go to the commander and apparent reference to Manuel Zelaya, Xiomara Castro's husband.
00:08:47.940 After Matt, Carlos Zelaya acknowledged that the meeting did take place,
00:08:51.040 and he resigned from his leadership position in Congress, but stated he was unaware that individuals,
00:08:55.860 illicit businesses, President Castro described her brother-in-law's actions as a deplorable error.
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