Valuetainment - “We Are Building Our Replacement” – Ex-Anthropic Researcher On What AI Employees Expect

00:00:00.000 So while you were there at Anthropic and you guys are having these types of conversations,

00:00:03.960 how many other people while they're sitting there saying, guys, we are, you know, building

00:00:09.340 our replacement?

00:00:10.540 Yeah.

00:00:11.040 We are building our replacement.

00:00:12.320 How many people felt they are building their replacement?

00:00:14.120 Everyone.

00:00:14.800 Everyone.

00:00:15.240 Yeah, that's just a fact.

00:00:16.180 Everyone knows it.

00:00:16.680 Is that a fact or do the agents still need to be controlled by somebody like you?

00:00:21.300 For now, they do.

00:00:22.580 For now, they definitely need control.

00:00:23.900 And it's not clear exactly when they lose.

00:00:27.780 We don't need the human anymore.

00:00:30.000 But everyone anticipates it.

00:00:32.340 They're all like, we're going to be, at some point, we won't have a job.

00:00:35.080 Does Dario, like, let's just say that's something that is happening,

00:00:37.920 and I'm an employee and I know this is going to be happening again.

00:00:40.100 It's like a truth, right?

00:00:41.720 Was there like a life insurance policy?

00:00:43.600 Guys, if this happens, here's what we're planning on doing

00:00:46.040 so you don't have to worry about it.

00:00:47.200 Yeah, so Anthropic, I think in one of Dario's essays,

00:00:49.900 I think it might be Machines of Loving Grace, this essay,

00:00:52.940 he has a section where he talks about the fact that

00:00:57.200 Anthropic will need to make commitments to its employees

00:01:00.080 for if they get replaced.

00:01:03.780 And I think people implicitly had the knowledge

00:01:05.660 that if Anthropic employees get replaced due to progress,

00:01:10.000 they could expect to be taken care of. 1.00

00:01:11.820 I think people expect that they will stay

00:01:13.840 and kind of be looked after.

00:01:16.280 Yeah, but OpenAI, you don't remember having anything like that?

00:01:19.100 They've not said anything publicly.

00:01:20.160 I think there may be some references to it, but nothing.

00:01:22.040 I think that's a pretty good idea.

00:01:23.500 If you know your people are afraid of something like that,

00:01:25.820 hey, if this happens, we would do this.

00:01:27.380 If that happens, we would do this.

00:01:28.300 Maybe, but it also sets about

00:01:29.320 what about the people that don't work there?

00:01:31.000 What about all the people

00:01:31.660 that are going to get replaced to other companies?

00:01:33.320 It kind of doesn't look great

00:01:34.200 if you're looking up for your own employees.

00:01:35.440 You're going to a level deeper, yeah.

00:01:36.240 But at these other companies,

00:01:38.060 people are losing their jobs

00:01:39.660 and they don't have the same assurances

00:01:40.860 as someone that works at a PM.

00:01:41.940 Jacob, who's the weirdest person

00:01:43.260 that slid in your DM after that tweet?

00:01:47.920 There's been some crazy stuff. 1.00

00:01:49.000 I had a lot of quite aggressive gay men 1.00

00:01:55.800 men DMing me. Gay men. Wow. Did they think you're gay? I don't know, man. They wanted to find out. 1.00

00:02:01.420 Yeah. And for the record, you're not gay. For the record, I'm not gay. Yeah. Gay men. A lot of them

00:02:05.600 in my DMs. Yeah. But like powerful gay men. No. OK. You just gay men, period. Just dudes in my DMs.

00:02:10.940 Yeah. Listen, I mean, if there's powerful gay men, you got to entertain. You got to reply. Yeah.

00:02:15.280 That is the good. This is a billionaire gay man. Hey, sir. Respectfully, I'm straight. But thank 0.97

00:02:22.000 you for your interest i mean you could yeah you don't have to say any heavy any heavyweight

00:02:26.760 politicians world leaders you know billionaires any any names like that i think so there were

00:02:34.560 like there were a few names the whole thing is like i mean lost in the inbox i don't want to say

00:02:38.920 you must have tens of thousands of years it's kind of nuts i just decide what to respond to but um

00:02:42.860 i don't want to say specifics i think a lot of a lot of politicians have reached out and i haven't

00:02:46.760 responded to any of them yet but a lot of people for things like um talking to staffers i think

00:02:51.560 bernie sanders as people reached out i haven't responded to that yet i had an invitation to go

00:02:54.920 to a i think a rally with steve bannon and bernie sanders that i that i chose not to go to bannon

00:02:59.580 and bernie sanders yeah they're aligned on this right they're aligned on the same page exactly

00:03:03.580 that is a weird rally weird i know weird and i say rally was like are you thinking about it or i was

00:03:08.180 thinking about it definitely but the thing is uh interesting it just wouldn't look good on

00:03:11.180 head i don't want to associate i don't want to be political right i'm also i'm from the uk i feel

00:03:15.660 like i don't want to just jump into u.s politics that's just like an odd thing to do yeah that's

00:03:20.100 And, by the way, is it true that the story at OpenAI, like, you know, if you're going through conflict, they bring dolls and stuff like that.

00:03:27.980 What is that?

00:03:28.620 I saw the story last week.

00:03:29.720 I fully believe it. 1.00

00:03:30.260 Oh, Anthropic.

00:03:30.860 Is this true, like, a stuffed animal advisory council?

00:03:33.260 I mean, I don't think this is happening in the office, per se.

00:03:36.460 But I believe it, yeah.

00:03:37.580 Did you ever see it or hear it?

00:03:38.900 I've never seen it.

00:03:39.720 But I've seen things similar at people's houses, right?

00:03:42.260 They have, like, a dock that they use to talk about their problems.

00:03:46.300 I think it's cool.

00:03:47.080 I think it's like, look, dude, Anthropic is going to be a $2 trillion IPO.

00:03:50.640 These guys are going to eat capitalism alive.

00:03:52.360 I'm like, they can do whatever the hell they want if they're – 1.00

00:03:54.200 Who gives a shit. 1.00

00:03:54.960 Yeah, who gives a shit. 1.00

00:03:55.260 These guys are taking over. 0.99

00:03:56.420 I mean, you've got to give them some respect.

00:03:58.040 If they're – yeah.

00:03:59.220 And the upside between the two, just as an investor, forget about –

00:04:01.880 I know what you're thinking about.

00:04:02.700 As an investor between the two, is OpenAI even close to the way they run things at Anthropic?

00:04:09.140 So I haven't been there for four months.

00:04:10.580 Maybe it's changed, but I would like – like, why is OpenAI ahead of Google?

00:04:14.980 I think it's largely a culture thing.

00:04:16.140 Google has a lot of resources, a lot of people, a lot of great talent.

00:04:19.160 But OpenAI has this focus on building LLMs.

00:04:23.680 And Anthropik is so much more focused.

00:04:26.500 Again, I hear that OpenAI is becoming more focused.

00:04:29.960 But yeah, as right now as an investor, I guess I would long Anthropik.

00:04:33.340 Definitely.

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Valuetainment - October 09, 2026

“We Are Building Our Replacement” – Ex-Anthropic Researcher On What AI Employees Expect

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