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J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio have been in hot water for their differing approaches to foreign policy and foreign policy issues, and now they are battling it out in the middle of a war with Iran. On today's show, Adam and Rob talk about why they think the two should go head-to-head, and who has the better foreign policy approach.
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I don't know if you guys saw this, that J.D. Vance called Netanyahu.
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Yeah, that J.D. called Netanyahu, and it's like, hey, you know,
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You know, angry phone call with which news is that?
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J.D. Vance rips into Netanyahu on a phone call over Iran report, allegedly.
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And Vance, during the phone call, Vance told Netanyahu
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that his predictions about the war, which he told Trump about, had not come true.
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Netanyahu allegedly told Trump that the Iran war would be quick.
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As of now, the White House is considering sending more troops.
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Before the war, Bibi really sold it to the president as being easy,
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as regime change being a lot likelier than what it was.
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One source told Axios, and the VP was clear-eyed about some of those statements.
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What's so different about the Jesse is that the president has clearly identified about this, Jesse,
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that the president has clearly identified what he wants to accomplish,
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and there's just no way Vance said during an interview.
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So here's the thing also with Vance on what he's doing.
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When I watch Vance versus I watch Rubio, this is the vibe I get.
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I get a vibe of a guy that is making all his moves so calculated
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for career advancement versus a guy that's doing what he thinks
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is the right thing to do because he believes it.
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I don't know if you understand what I'm saying, Tom.
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I know exactly what you're saying, and I'm with you.
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So I think J.D. right now is, you know, this phone call that was made
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is like, hey, make the phone call, leak it to the press.
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Because he wants the non-interventionist, those guys who say, oh, wow,
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Where Rubio, honestly, like, who do you think is more resolved
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on what he or she is doing that can handle the criticism?
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11 years ago so to me these types of calls that are happening it's it's more a positioning call
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than it is a you know tell them how hard i was on bb tell them how hard and how much i pushed them
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use these words oh my god look at the backbone and all this other stuff now this could be a true
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story and i'm maybe i'm pushing it too much but i'm just telling you i see some of the stuff
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that's happening that's too opportunistic i think you're right vinnie picture the primaries in 28
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hang on hang on hang on who picked up the phone and called bb and said how could you i did i see
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that who who said i was less enthusiastic i see that tom and i don't i see that remember the
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president said because trump said this about jd vance he's less enthusiastic about the war and
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what's the script the script is going to be not going to lie to you i was conflicted yes i was
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conflicted i couldn't say anything and i'm the vice president i supported the commander in chief
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Yeah, I was conflicted. So we'll see. Adam. Yeah, I don't know what J.D. Vance's strategy is. I would give him one piece of advice. Don't cross Trump. It's not going to work out well for you. But I'm just going to go rapid fire here because we covered a lot of things. Number one, Trump and MBS, you talked about him. They have a bromance. It's not even close at this point. They are genuinely friends and they're cool. I wouldn't even say that B.B. and Trump have a bromance.
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I think there's just strategic allies that negotiate and are on the same page maybe 80% of the time, but they're not fully, fully, fully aligned, nor should they be. Everyone has their own interest in there. But Trump and MBS do have a special relationship. And yes, I think the Gulf states and yes, I think the regional actors should pay the price.
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I don't know anything about this, but I'll give my assessment
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do you know Israel's the size of the state of New Jersey
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do me a favor pull up the map of the middle east we'll talk about expansionism for a second
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israel's this tiny how many people do you think i have in their military they have wars going on
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in hezbollah on their north they have gaza and the west bank on their east and their west they
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get the houthis on their south and we need to take our small little mighty military and export
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it outside the world we literally just don't have the manpower so as far as expansionism that's not
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the point but hold on let me finish my point as far as expansionism but okay you want to talk
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about boots on the ground israel has one million percent more boots on the ground right now you
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know what they're called massad you know how many people have massad that are in that negotiation
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doesn't work with me no that okay but it doesn't matter what it works let me explain to you it
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matters what works with our president let me explain to you let me explain my point no you
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can't let me explain to you on this specific and then you can finish your thought for me is that is
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a very cold argument to make to somebody who has lost a family member to a war that they
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That's exactly the point why so many people hate these effing wars, because they lost
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Go talk to those guys that have a job in the military that have to go explain to the mom
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and dad your son just got killed, and for the rest of that person's life, that parent's
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life go tell them hey support this thing here no to me masad is masad go do what you're doing with
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masad if i'm putting our kids lives on the line where are you with it who who if u.s is gonna
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send troops and our marines the best of the best in the world if they're gonna go and our guys are
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gonna be there yeah i expect you to be there who's you you be in israel but why are we only talking
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about israel what we didn't we just talk about are we not sending any other troops this is are we
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We're not sending Qatari troops and we're not sending Saudi troops.
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Mainly, but you just said, are they going to financially support?
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Now other people are coming and saying we're involved.
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Who is known for having a great intelligence, great military, great air force?
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So if I'm putting troops on the ground, I expect you to put troops on the ground as well.
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Let's not pretend that Israel isn't already fighting a war hardcore for the last three years.
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I don't want to see our American troops over there.
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To pretend that Israel isn't already fighting wars
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And defeating their enemies would be naive at best
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You can't sit in this room, all of us right now
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And we're going to plan that we're going to go in that room
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And beat the crap out of everybody in the studio room
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And then when it's time to go, you're like, no, no, no
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So then the United States, my country should say this
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And if they go, oh, okay, let me think about it.
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You said if they do, so why are they sending it without them committing to it?
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The argument is the people in America, again, pulse.
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The people in America, when you get their pulse, you know what they're asking themselves?
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Today's social media is a very different climate we're living in.
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Take the 51% of bots that do a great job and confuse the hell out of everybody.
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But take some of the reasonable players that come out.
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And a lot of these reasonable players are former vets.
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or maybe a SEAL, or you've actually gone and seen this kind of stuff,
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and you ask yourself, he was in the military, I was in the military,
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and you see the level of frustration, why did I do this?
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And a big part of it is, I lost a friend, I lost a brother, I lost a cousin.
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I don't want to do it if you're not in on it as well.
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But BB said they're not going to put a single, you know,
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thank you so much, a single boot on the ground.
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If you're not, and we do, that is going to be a very big problem with a lot of Americans.
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I don't know who came out and said that, and I'd like to validate.
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Because it's so easy to be like, oh, they're not doing it,
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so obviously they're just expecting them to fight their wars.
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That is the American isolationist default position.
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How about asking, peeling the onion and say, well, why would they say that?
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Why would they not want to commit boots on the crown?
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Are they saying that, or are they playing strategic games here?
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Adam, they said because it does not have the logistics to sustain forces that far from home.
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Adam, Bibi Netanyahu went to Congress how many times and said Iraq, Iraq?
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How many soldiers were deployed in 2003 from Israel?
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He said, we all said they had weapons of mass destruction.
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Adam, respectfully, you just yelled at me and told me to let you finish.
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How many Israeli troops were deployed in 2023 for Iraq or in Afghanistan?
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If you're going to talk all this shit and bring us into war, put your boots on the ground.
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What do you think the IDF has been doing, fighting wars all over the Middle East?
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Okay, so you don't think that Pete Hegseth and Benny Gantz, whoever's running the IDF, are discussing this?
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To pretend that they're just lollygagging into war.
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But by the way, notice what happened with the tension here.
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notice what happened with the tension here and it's just the four of us this is one of the issues
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in america today that is truly a conversation people are having this is a real conversation
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that's being had and by the way where do you put me you think i'm an isolationist
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well no what do you think i am i think since we've invaded iran iran you're probably more on
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the pro uh ally side at this point not isolation pro pro ally with who with what america's
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military's might i'm i'm not an isolationist i'm not i'm not that no no i'm not because to me
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that mindset doesn't work because my experience in business and my experience of being in the
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military and having lived in a country with war you can't be an isolationist for the rest of your
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life eventually a guy's going to come and knock on your door and say hey you're so weak come here
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give me everything you got you can't you have to show strength people have to know you can push
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your weight around and every once in a while you know there needs to be a statement hey
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fafo there needs to be that reputation i am that guy i'm the guy that you need to set the tone in
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a marketplace that they know but at the same time if i'm going to be on the phone with you
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and you're a world leader and you're asking certain requests i'm going to say here's how
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i'll do it with you this is more important to me i need you to show up with the following
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if i'm going to put my guys on the line i need you to put two times as many so can we can we
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role play for a second i know you want to move on who do you want to be you want to be trump you
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want to be bb what do you want do you want to do this whatever i'll be bb okay go you go you're
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trump you're who pegseth whoever what's your demand i'm trump let him be dave smith hey listen
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i'll uh i'll i'll uh i'll uh i don't have a prime helping you out because i think we benefit from
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this as well sure i want to be able to do this as well but if i'm gonna send my troops you got
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to send yours as well okay let's talk about what the plan is okay we obviously want to defeat
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terrorism that's the number one threat you said it yourself you wanted to take out the nuclear
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ambitions here we've seen them kill 30 to 50 000 of their own people they have their proxies
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attacking us we've we've created the iron dome which are basically helping you create what what
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is so now what do you want right now so i'm just giving you doing right so what i'm saying to you
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is yeah what do you want us to do now no what i'm asking you is if i'm going to send troops i need
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you to send troops okay how many troops do you want two to one if i send 1 000 you got to send
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2 000 no we're not we don't have those capabilities right now what capability we need to defend we
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need to defend because we're basically getting attacked by this one do it by yourself then
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perfect you just you just you just proved me right by yourself then don't send them
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that's my point so he says hey listen trust me that's where we are exactly yeah so if the united
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so if the united states sends troops which i i don't want them to but they do it but bb goes
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listen we can't send troops that's on trump that's on pete hexa that's on trump and hexa if
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we're negotiating they made the decision yes i know i agree okay no no but this is if we're
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negotiating and you said adam i need you to do this and i say pat i can't do that and you go
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If I'm negotiating, I'm not doing it without you sending troops.
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Do you not think that conversation is taking place?
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You don't think that conversation is taking place?
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Do you think they're just hollygagging and blindly walking into this?
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I guarantee you that conversation took place and said, you do this.
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And when I get somebody, like if Moral goes and negotiates on my behalf with a carrier
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if Tom is handling a massive crisis that somebody needs to use the right words when talking to
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somebody we just did one last week I don't care I trust Tom I trust him I voted for this guy three
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times Trump I trust that he's doing the right thing I agree what I'm saying to you is if this
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conversation comes up the American people are going to ask is it one for one they're going to ask
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sure and if he chooses not to go he's going to get the criticism if he's okay with that great
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I know, but what I'm saying to you is the way I'm negotiating is I'm going to have you have some skin in the game.
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