Valuetainment - June 10, 2026


＂You're Either Crooked Or Stupid＂ - Trump STORMS OFF During HEATED Meet The Press Interview


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00:00:30.000 So the president decides to do an interview with Meet the Press, Kristen Welker.
00:00:33.920 She flies out to Wisconsin.
00:00:36.080 Conditions are horrible.
00:00:37.680 It is raining.
00:00:39.300 It is pouring.
00:00:40.040 If you listen to the entire interview, it's tough to listen to at times.
00:00:43.400 Multiple times they have to stop for five to ten minutes,
00:00:45.840 and the president's still sitting there.
00:00:47.860 This was one of the most viral clips on X yesterday
00:00:50.860 because at the end, abruptly, the president gets up and walks out.
00:00:55.120 And I want you to watch this and say, was this the right one?
00:00:58.120 Was it not the right one?
00:00:59.000 The president called Kristen Walker a couple words.
00:01:01.040 So, Rob, go ahead and play this clip.
00:01:02.440 Let's react to it.
00:01:03.100 Go for it. 0.95
00:01:03.900 It was a dirty election.
00:01:05.300 And it's happening again right now in California.
00:01:07.280 You've never presented evidence that the 2020 election was rigged.
00:01:11.880 Right now, look at what's happening in California.
00:01:14.160 Where's the evidence to that?
00:01:15.100 It's four days.
00:01:16.060 The Republicans are doing well in California.
00:01:17.220 In California, it's...
00:01:18.720 No, they're not.
00:01:19.360 They're dropping fast because it's a rigged election.
00:01:21.900 Let me tell you, it's four days, and they aren't even close to coming up with...
00:01:27.020 That's how they cap the votes in California.
00:01:27.460 You know why they're doing that? 0.99
00:01:28.480 Because they're cheating on the election.
00:01:30.180 Do you have evidence to support that?
00:01:32.300 All I have to do is look.
00:01:33.700 All I have to do is look.
00:01:34.540 That's not evidence.
00:01:34.940 And I listen.
00:01:35.900 And I listen to people.
00:01:37.360 And let's see what happens.
00:01:38.300 But, sir, that's not evidence.
00:01:39.420 Do you think it's appropriate?
00:01:40.220 That's how they count the votes in California.
00:01:42.140 Do you think it's appropriate that they have an election and five days later they're nowhere close to picking a winner?
00:01:48.200 State and local officials acknowledge they are slow.
00:01:50.520 They're urging.
00:01:51.260 No, they're crooked.
00:01:51.900 They're urging the votes to be counted quickly.
00:01:53.820 That's how they vote in California. 0.97
00:01:54.980 They're crooked. 1.00
00:01:55.060 Just like you're crooked. 0.99
00:01:56.280 Your press is crooked. 0.99
00:01:57.140 and meet the press as crooked.
00:01:58.580 To be fair, I'm not crooked, but let's continue.
00:02:00.320 Really? Well, you play right into their hands.
00:02:02.320 Let's continue. 1.00
00:02:03.040 You're either crooked or you're stupid. 1.00
00:02:04.800 You play right into their hands with this rap. 1.00
00:02:07.240 You know that these elections are rigged.
00:02:10.940 Your network knows that they're rigged.
00:02:13.280 Look at her.
00:02:13.620 You know that I won an election in a landslide, 0.74
00:02:16.760 and I got 94% bad press.
00:02:19.760 But, Mr. President, you've never presented evidence.
00:02:21.760 You know why I got that? Because you have no credibility.
00:02:23.180 But you've never presented evidence that it was rigged.
00:02:25.260 Let's keep talking about it. I want to talk about Todd.
00:02:26.780 You have more evidence.
00:02:28.200 There's more evidence than ever presented.
00:02:31.520 Let's talk about...
00:02:32.200 Your elections in this country, we're like a third world country.
00:02:35.720 Your elections are crooked, and you're crooked, and Mr. Press is crooked, and so is ABC and CBS and CNN. 0.72
00:02:44.360 You're one-sided crooked networks. 0.93
00:02:46.680 Let's call it quits, because I've had enough.
00:02:48.860 Thank you, darling. Have a good time.
00:02:50.060 Mr. President, let's please...
00:02:51.260 Watch the mic.
00:02:52.440 Stepped on the mic.
00:02:53.700 I've traveled all the way to Wisconsin.
00:02:55.360 I know.
00:02:55.940 I travel all the way to Wisconsin.
00:02:57.980 On and off in the rain, and I've given you enough time.
00:03:01.180 You ought to straighten out your press because you know what?
00:03:03.420 Mr. President.
00:03:03.800 A country can never be great with a dishonest press.
00:03:06.640 Listen, we traveled all the way to Wisconsin for this interview.
00:03:11.640 There you go.
00:03:12.560 And the interview's over.
00:03:13.680 Okay?
00:03:14.340 So now, when he's doing this, Tom, first of all, your reaction to this.
00:03:17.720 Because she says they're going to do another interview again.
00:03:20.220 It was a long interview.
00:03:21.340 It's not like they only did a five-minute interview.
00:03:23.700 It was a good 40 minutes that they did an interview together,
00:03:26.000 35 minutes that they did the interview together.
00:03:28.120 Tom, appropriate, inappropriate?
00:03:30.440 Was she not being honest?
00:03:31.740 How do you process it?
00:03:32.960 Well, you know, she's, you know, words talk, numbers scream.
00:03:37.420 She was made moderator.
00:03:38.860 That's exactly the question I was asking myself this weekend, Pat.
00:03:41.880 I went and I looked.
00:03:42.780 She was named moderator of Meet the Press in 2023. 0.65
00:03:46.840 And in the middle demographic, everybody wants 25 to 40,
00:03:50.140 I mean 25 to 40 or whatever it is, to 54.
00:03:52.480 I think it's 25 to 54.
00:03:55.180 She's taken that show as moderator.
00:03:58.880 It's now number one.
00:04:00.860 You know, it's ahead of ABC.
00:04:02.480 It's ahead of CBS.
00:04:03.800 And so because she's number, that Meet the Press is now number one on the Sunday news show.
00:04:08.920 So you're giving her credit.
00:04:09.640 She's done well.
00:04:10.580 Yeah, the show has done well, and she's part of the show.
00:04:12.900 I'll say that.
00:04:13.480 It's Meet the Press.
00:04:14.380 But the show has done well, and she's the lead moderator.
00:04:17.760 So she's going to get the opportunity because they got the ratings.
00:04:21.060 And whether you want to believe it or not, the people that are on the president's press team are going to say, hey, you know, they're number one in the ratings.
00:04:27.580 So they gave it to her. But the conditions were terrible.
00:04:30.580 That must have been hell for the sound man that is working there, because you saw they were in like they were in a heavily they were in a barn or something that had been decorated.
00:04:39.420 It wasn't for the sound that he walked out.
00:04:41.300 No, no, no. But I'm saying that's a tough situation to put together a professional piece.
00:04:47.080 But she took this this angle that the media takes that I have issue with.
00:04:53.980 You are not congressional. You know, you're not there for a congressional hearing.
00:05:00.360 You're not there to make accusations go straight down. You're not there to do that.
00:05:04.300 You're there to have an interview with the president of the United States and maybe ask some tough questions.
00:05:07.760 But I think when you cross the line there and you triggered him and you triggered him and he he went off.
00:05:14.140 and the back story is we're seeing
00:05:16.540 stuff happen in LA. I'm sure we'll get to that
00:05:18.440 in a minute. But my take on it
00:05:20.380 was, you know what? 1.00
00:05:22.200 I don't agree with the way she...
00:05:24.480 Tom, she knows exactly 0.92
00:05:26.660 what she's doing and that's her job. 1.00
00:05:28.680 She works for a freaking network 0.99
00:05:30.280 that absolutely despises Trump. 0.99
00:05:32.260 Do you think she likes Trump? Tom,
00:05:34.340 do you think she likes Trump? She hates him.
00:05:36.500 By the way, he called her a Democrat
00:05:38.400 in the interview. She said, I'm not a Democrat. I'm a journalist.
00:05:41.600 Did you catch that part?
00:05:42.840 Yeah, give me a break.
00:05:43.820 And Pat, the fact that he's even giving you the time,
00:05:46.800 I would be, he doesn't need to even talk to these people, okay?
00:05:50.700 And then she knows what she's doing.
00:05:52.140 And then at the end, she's like, but we came to Wisconsin.
00:05:54.820 Then why the hell are you doing, like, be fair, okay?
00:05:57.640 And it's not like he's lying.
00:05:59.640 If you believe, if you believe that Joe Biden got 81 million votes,
00:06:05.200 then there's something wrong with you.
00:06:06.720 He's the most popular president in the history,
00:06:09.380 more than Barack Obama and more than Donald Trump. 0.95
00:06:11.440 I think it's absolutely ridiculous.
00:06:12.840 And it's as if you're challenging him for evidence, as if he's going to have his lawyer there to bring up all the stuff in Georgia, all the stuff, all the things that are in the courts, Pat, that a lot of these judges are Biden-appointed judges and they're Democrat judges. 0.74
00:06:25.440 And then January 6th, you mean to tell me on January 6th that wasn't a setup with all the FBI, all the confidential human sources, with Ray Epps and all the stuff that was going on to make him look so bad, Pat, that he's the one that provoked January 6th when he said, be peaceful, go down there and you can protest.
00:06:42.460 It's blatantly obvious what they did, and I love that you said that, Tom.
00:06:46.780 They're doing it, Pat, in plain sight, and we're going to get to California
00:06:49.220 in front of our faces, and we can't do nothing about it.
00:06:52.400 Nothing.
00:06:52.880 California can't do nothing, and we're so lucky because, Pat,
00:06:56.240 Gavin Newsom is – notice how he's quiet.
00:06:58.400 He's the frontrunner.
00:06:59.660 If they get in power, what do you think they're going to make it
00:07:02.680 on a national scale, this mail-in ballots?
00:07:04.860 You remember in Georgia, Pat, they had all the drop-offs, Tom,
00:07:08.200 the Sharpie ballots in Arizona, everything.
00:07:10.480 They cheated.
00:07:11.220 but it's not illegal because you know what she said that's how california voting is and do you
00:07:16.880 think it's right that's correct and she doesn't even want to ask a tough question on it and this
00:07:20.440 is a president that gets over 90 negative coverage from them yeah and my point was she's acting like
00:07:26.740 she's at a congressional hearing and he owes an answer for her out of a briefing book it's a game
00:07:31.700 of gotcha and she despite the ratings and everything so the people that are watching
00:07:36.120 have seen the ratings move but she is part of the media yes she is tom adam well i watched the
00:07:42.380 entire interview and at first i think we sent a clip on our group chat yep my first reaction was 0.98
00:07:48.840 wow trump really looks like a jerk here and i said let me actually do my due diligence here 0.96
00:07:53.360 and then i realized this was the last two minutes of almost like a 90 minute rain marathon 1.00
00:08:00.640 in what looked like a barn in Wisconsin.
00:08:04.640 And the conversation turned, at least initially for the first hour,
00:08:09.840 was very cordial.
00:08:11.400 I mean, he was being fine.
00:08:12.720 And then it kept stopping and starting because of the rain.
00:08:15.540 So what we're seeing is the tail end of him being frustrated,
00:08:19.060 annoyed, and just done with the situation.
00:08:21.280 And that's with getting the headlines.
00:08:22.620 But what I was focused on was sort of the substantive arguments
00:08:26.060 that he was making.
00:08:27.400 And I'll go real quick.
00:08:28.260 I have three little things here.
00:08:29.280 so number one he said listen we're close to a deal and let me tell you something part of uh if
00:08:35.340 this deal doesn't come through you know what I might do she goes what's that he goes I might
00:08:39.260 blow the hell out of him he goes that's much easier to do but I don't want to do that but
00:08:44.360 he goes and then he kept saying listen this is a hundred days and he kept giving examples he goes
00:08:51.640 Vietnam we were in 19 years and then she kept trying correct him then you know he goes excuse
00:08:56.320 excuse me 19 years like what don't you understand we're talking about three months versus 19 years
00:09:02.580 in vietnam and he talked about korea and he talked about iraq talked about afghanistan he goes guys
00:09:06.880 it's been 100 days are you really playing this game that we don't have enough time and that's
00:09:11.560 why i think maybe he's not that concerned with uh with the midterms as much as maybe we would
00:09:16.580 suspect number two it was so funny it's almost like you would say this in the playground he goes
00:09:21.180 you know they did their blockade and then we blockaded their blockade and he goes it's costing
00:09:25.960 them how much almost uh a half a billion dollars a day a day so i think he's just basically saying
00:09:32.080 we're going to squeeze them dry he talked about him and bb's being on the same page they do have
00:09:36.700 some differences in how he says we have surgical differences yeah we surgical they want to be in
00:09:40.400 lebanon but we're very much on the same page we get along very well and then she kept pressing
00:09:45.640 him on you said no new wars you said no new wars he goes excuse me i never said that he goes and
00:09:51.160 And in fact, why the hell would I put so much money into the military and try to build up our military so much if you thought I was never going to use them?
00:10:00.100 Then he kept basically saying. Let's play this clip. Play the clip on no wars, Rob.
00:10:03.320 What changed? Because you insisted no new wars.
00:10:07.920 I didn't guarantee no war. Why would I have built the strongest military in the world?
00:10:12.740 I built our military. I inherited a terrible military. We had no equipment. We had nothing.
00:10:17.060 I built a tremendous military.
00:10:19.700 Biden gave a lot of it away, but it's still a relatively small portion compared to what I built.
00:10:24.220 But you said it over and over again, Mr. President.
00:10:26.120 Why would I build a military?
00:10:27.500 Now, I didn't want to use this, but I'm doing you and everybody else a big favor.
00:10:33.540 In the midst of the greatest stock market in history, in the midst of the most successful country,
00:10:39.040 because as you know, in the last term, we were a dead country, Kristen.
00:10:41.780 I know you're a big liberal.
00:10:45.140 No, I'm just a journalist.
00:10:47.060 I'm just a journal.
00:10:49.100 By the way, they cut it off right there.
00:10:51.300 Here's what I think Trump believes more than anything.
00:10:55.080 And he said this a few times.
00:10:56.500 He goes, I'm doing the world a favor, whether you like it or not.
00:11:01.180 And then he said something very specific.
00:11:02.500 He goes, I won the election.
00:11:04.340 Why?
00:11:05.040 Because the American people trusted my judgment more than anyone else.
00:11:09.900 He goes, if they have a nuclear weapon, and then he made it personal, he goes, they'll
00:11:14.740 blow you up. 1.00
00:11:16.080 Kristen Welker, they'll blow you up. 0.99
00:11:17.900 They'll blow up Meet the Press.
00:11:19.060 They'll blow up everything. 0.95
00:11:20.380 These are crazy people, but I like them. 1.00
00:11:22.280 I get along with them well, but they're crazy. 0.98
00:11:24.420 And he said, I'm the first president in 47 years who had the guts to do this.
00:11:28.660 And that's kind of where he is.
00:11:29.680 Yeah, and by the way, in the middle of the interview, they talk about jobs report.
00:11:32.940 Yeah.
00:11:33.560 And, you know, she says, did you see the jobs report?
00:11:36.980 Why don't you say the numbers?
00:11:37.860 Go ahead and say the numbers.
00:11:39.100 172,000.
00:11:39.960 What was the expectation?
00:11:41.300 It was three times what you guys thought.
00:11:42.780 So if it's so bad, why are we creating so many jobs?
00:11:45.100 This is it, Rob.
00:11:45.820 If you want to play this, go for it.
00:11:47.320 Not that strong.
00:11:48.400 You got a strong jobs report today that beat expectations.
00:11:53.000 Not strong.
00:11:53.840 Really strong.
00:11:54.780 Beat expectations.
00:11:56.620 By how much?
00:11:57.940 Triple.
00:11:59.260 170,000 jobs created.
00:12:02.560 You got a strong job.
00:12:03.680 But by the way, what's unfortunate is, and by the way, the media knows what they're doing.
00:12:08.360 They put the worst clip.
00:12:09.600 It's actually a good conversation, and it's worth watching.
00:12:12.800 Seriously, it's actually a good conversation.
00:12:14.100 It's worth watching.
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