Valuetainment - June 03, 2026


＂You're F#cking Crazy＂ - Trump Netanyahu LEAK Exposes Power Struggle


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9 minutes

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155

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2

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32

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Trump fumes at Netanyahu in a call on Lebanon, according to sources. Behind the scenes, one U.S. official told Bibi that the threat to bomb Lebanese capital would further isolate Israel from around the world. Two of the sources said Trump claimed he d help keep Netanyahu out of jail.

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00:00:00.000 So Axios brings out the story.
00:00:01.480 At this point, you've seen it. 0.97
00:00:02.540 So, Rob, if you want to go down so I can read the whole thing, you're effing crazy. 0.94
00:00:05.720 Trump fumes at Netanyahu in call on Lebanon.
00:00:09.620 Go a little bit lower, Rob, so I can read the whole thing.
00:00:12.200 So President Trump last said Israel over Israel escalation in Lebanon in an expletive Latin call on Monday.
00:00:18.180 Two U.S. officials and a third source briefed on the call told Axios why it matters.
00:00:22.180 Early on Monday, Iran threatened to ban on negotiations with the U.S. over Israel, saying actions in Lebanon.
00:00:26.480 On the call, Trump called Netanyahu crazy and accused him of ingratitude, according to two of the sources.
00:00:32.100 He also put the brakes on Israel's plan to strike Beirut.
00:00:35.060 Behind the scenes, one U.S. official told Bibi that the following threw on his threat to bomb Lebanese capital would further isolate Israel from around the world.
00:00:44.920 Two of the sources said Trump claimed he'd help keep Netanyahu out of jail.
00:00:49.040 He said, if it wasn't for me, you'd be in jail right there. 1.00
00:00:51.760 You're effing crazy. 1.00
00:00:52.580 You'd be in prison if it weren't for me. 1.00
00:00:54.220 I'm saving your ass. 1.00
00:00:55.660 Everybody hates you. 1.00
00:00:57.260 Everybody hates Israel because of this.
00:00:59.400 Do you think this call happened? 0.92
00:01:00.860 The call definitely happened.
00:01:02.180 But both sides are spinning it in their own ways.
00:01:04.260 And they're spinning it with the classic people.
00:01:06.200 So just background on this.
00:01:07.560 This is an Axios piece.
00:01:08.420 The author of this piece is Barak Ravid, who is an award-winning journalist,
00:01:11.740 one of the coverage co-authored by Mark Caputo, former colleague of mine at NBC News.
00:01:16.140 But Barak Ravid is famous, or should I say now infamous in media circles,
00:01:19.300 for being the guy who the White House always goes to,
00:01:22.080 to leak stuff about conversations with Israel.
00:01:24.880 Is this the guy that leaked it that Bibi got up, that Biden got upset?
00:01:28.860 Yes, same.
00:01:29.280 This is the same guy.
00:01:29.740 So he did both.
00:01:30.340 He's bipartisan.
00:01:31.160 I got it.
00:01:31.480 Whether you're Joe Biden.
00:01:32.340 Who's the fair guy?
00:01:32.840 Well, it's not about being fair.
00:01:34.340 It's the point is that whoever's in the White House, they know that this is the guy who does the stories about split between Israel and America.
00:01:41.060 So we've had about a dozen, two dozen of these stories over the last three years.
00:01:43.820 Is this the guy you trust?
00:01:45.500 Unfortunately, no now.
00:01:46.620 It's not that I don't trust him.
00:01:47.940 I'm not saying he's making stuff up.
00:01:49.720 But I am saying he's clearly become a useful vessel
00:01:52.320 for information from the White House
00:01:54.960 that they want to get out.
00:01:55.900 They know, if you're Joe Biden or you're Donald Trump,
00:01:58.320 you know that if you want to get out
00:01:59.500 that you're pissed at Netanyahu,
00:02:00.980 Barack Ravid is the guy you go to.
00:02:02.200 Now, on the other side, you have Amit Segal,
00:02:04.040 who is one of Israel's most famous journalists,
00:02:05.720 very close to Benjamin Netanyahu.
00:02:07.520 Channel 12, I think, is his network.
00:02:09.280 This guy is now reporting today, the day we're talking,
00:02:12.360 that actually the Israeli side is saying,
00:02:14.000 no, no, Trump never swore at Netanyahu,
00:02:15.960 never mentioned jail or prison,
00:02:17.580 and they disagreed about how to handle Hezbollah
00:02:19.880 in Lebanon. So the question then
00:02:21.900 becomes for those of us who were not in the room,
00:02:24.120 who do you believe? Hmm.
00:02:25.860 Serial liar Donald Trump or serial liar 1.00
00:02:27.740 Benjamin Netanyahu? Journalists who act 1.00
00:02:29.920 as vessels for leaders on both
00:02:32.080 sides? It's very hard. This is why people have a real
00:02:34.060 issue with mainstream media right now. Because
00:02:36.020 what do you do in a situation like this where both sides
00:02:38.120 are spinning furiously? And I can believe either
00:02:40.100 version. I can believe that Trump told him you're
00:02:42.060 fucking crazy. We wouldn't put that past Donald Trump. 1.00
00:02:43.920 I can also believe that they lied to make Trump sound
00:02:46.020 stronger than he is. And now he's telling the truth.
00:02:48.040 I don't know. Okay, so
00:02:49.720 how do they typically
00:02:51.000 get the credibility? Because
00:02:53.860 anybody can say this was said. So
00:02:55.460 can you go back to the article when it says
00:02:57.660 two sources were there? What is the
00:03:00.000 you're in this world? Is there a
00:03:01.840 system or a standard to be able to, because this is
00:03:03.860 a big deal here. Yeah, yeah, it's a big deal.
00:03:05.520 I mean, look, all the traditional rules of political
00:03:07.860 journalism went out the
00:03:09.440 window when Donald Trump came along, right?
00:03:12.140 So, you know, my colleague Swin Subsang reports
00:03:13.980 on the White House for Zateo.
00:03:15.180 He has very good contacts.
00:03:16.600 And, you know, he tells me
00:03:17.460 some of the crazy stories
00:03:18.420 he gets from behind the scenes
00:03:19.300 in terms of people
00:03:20.180 trying to screw each other over, right?
00:03:21.900 In the Trump administration,
00:03:23.200 there's a very unique dynamic.
00:03:25.060 And, you know, he's referred to
00:03:26.920 as a reservoir dogs dynamic.
00:03:28.480 It's been referred to
00:03:29.000 where everyone's got a gun
00:03:30.140 to each other's head
00:03:30.820 at the same time, right?
00:03:32.100 So they're all trying
00:03:32.640 to screw each other over.
00:03:33.280 So that's another issue
00:03:33.880 is are two of the sources
00:03:35.000 people who are allied
00:03:35.940 with each other?
00:03:36.560 Are they from different wings
00:03:37.460 of the White House?
00:03:38.120 You know, Pat, with this Iran war,
00:03:40.440 there are different elements
00:03:41.280 in this administration.
00:03:41.960 Some people want the war done, finished.
00:03:43.620 Some people want it to keep going.
00:03:45.080 So there's different pressures on Trump.
00:03:46.180 This is not a 100%, 80% story.
00:03:48.920 No.
00:03:49.420 So there's different people leaking for different agendas
00:03:51.540 to try and end a war or escalate a war.
00:03:53.660 Give me how this makes Trump look good.
00:03:55.860 How does it make it look bad?
00:03:57.360 Who's winning with the story?
00:03:58.680 Who's not?
00:03:59.500 So Trump, you know the MAGA base better than me.
00:04:02.840 Many of them are your viewers.
00:04:03.860 Many people in the MAGA base.
00:04:04.860 Not as many as people suggest.
00:04:06.760 My good friend, Cenk Uge, I know you've had on the show.
00:04:08.820 He thinks there's a big split in MAGA.
00:04:10.440 I'm less of that view.
00:04:11.880 I look at the polls, 80% of MAGA still loves Trump, 70% love this war, but there is a growing
00:04:17.040 minority who don't like what's going on with the foreign wars, with the betrayal of anti-war
00:04:21.420 promises, and a lot of them see Donald Trump as being, you know, I can't come up with a better 0.96
00:04:27.580 phrase than Netanyahu's bitch, and this would help Donald Trump say, look, I'm telling Benjamin 1.00
00:04:33.360 Netanyahu, fuck you, you're fucking crazy, I saved you from prison, I'm the dominant partner in this 1.00
00:04:38.280 relationship. And by the way, this is not just a Trump issue. Every American president who's dealt 1.00
00:04:41.780 with Netanyahu has come out getting screwed over. Joe Biden got completely screwed over. He gave his 0.97
00:04:46.160 entire presidency to save Netanyahu. Look at him today. Destroyed. Bill Clinton in the 90s came out
00:04:51.600 of a conversation with Netanyahu. You know what he said to his team? He said, who's the fucking
00:04:54.560 superpower here? He was so pissed that he got talked down to by Benjamin Netanyahu. So American 1.00
00:04:59.080 presidents have been dealing with Bibi for many years and they've always tried to assert their 0.50
00:05:02.060 dominance and many of them have failed to do so. So I think for Donald Trump, it's good if people 0.76
00:05:06.280 believe it. The problem is, those of us who know that Axios
00:05:08.500 reporting on this, we're very, very skeptical.
00:05:10.020 So let me ask you this. If you're Trump's advisor,
00:05:12.580 which you're not, but let's just say if you were Trump's
00:05:14.260 advisor, and Trump hears 0.93
00:05:16.220 you, and he says, screw this guy. 0.94
00:05:18.620 That call did happen. That's exactly 0.97
00:05:20.300 what I told him. What does he need
00:05:22.360 to do publicly for even a guy 1.00
00:05:24.260 like you to say, shit, this happened? That's a great question 1.00
00:05:26.420 because Donald Trump's word means nothing to me.
00:05:28.420 I've been documenting his lies for many years.
00:05:30.360 No one's told more lies than Donald Trump in the public sphere.
00:05:32.860 So actions matter more than
00:05:34.280 words. Same issue with Biden. His people would
00:05:36.120 Ali, Biden's very upset with Netanyahu. 0.98
00:05:37.960 Okay, but what the fuck are you doing about it? 0.98
00:05:39.560 Many of us frustrated with the genocide would say. 0.98
00:05:42.040 Same question now.
00:05:43.100 What are you going to do about it?
00:05:43.880 Donald Trump has given Netanyahu everything he wanted.
00:05:46.220 If this conversation is true, he's saying,
00:05:49.020 I saved you from prison in the sense that he demanded the Israeli president.
00:05:51.600 Did he? Don't you think he did, though?
00:05:52.740 In many ways he did, because every time this war continues,
00:05:55.660 Netanyahu avoids trial, right?
00:05:56.840 Every time there's an escalation in the war,
00:05:58.080 he doesn't have to go back to court.
00:05:58.780 That's right.
00:05:59.320 And Trump has publicly called on Herzog, the president, to pardon him,
00:06:02.620 which he hasn't done yet, but I'm sure he's feeling the pressure
00:06:04.860 from Trump publicly calling him out.
00:06:06.760 So he has helped Netanyahu.
00:06:08.060 But worse than that, you look at what's happening in Gaza.
00:06:10.360 He's given Netanyahu everything he wanted.
00:06:12.400 And this really bothers me because in 2024,
00:06:14.380 I spend a lot of time pointing out to people on my side,
00:06:16.940 leftists, Muslims, Arab Americans,
00:06:19.520 people in Dearborn, Michigan, who welcome Trump.
00:06:22.420 And I said to them, 0.97
00:06:23.260 you're going to get screwed over by this guy. 0.98
00:06:24.580 No, no, no, no. 0.98
00:06:25.320 He's more anti-war than Kamala and Joe.
00:06:27.640 This is what I was told by Arab Americans
00:06:29.060 who voted for Trump.
00:06:30.040 He will be the anti-war president.
00:06:31.640 Stephen Miller said he won't send our boys to die.
00:06:34.020 Trump said, remember what he said?
00:06:35.060 He goes, Liz Cheney will go to war with Kamala 1.00
00:06:36.820 and kill Muslims. 1.00
00:06:37.480 I won't. 1.00
00:06:38.440 They all believed that shit. 1.00
00:06:39.540 Then he bombed, what is it, six countries last year, 1.00
00:06:41.820 seven countries last year.
00:06:42.760 Now he's in a war with Iran.
00:06:44.180 In Gaza, he had this ceasefire at the beginning
00:06:46.400 that people were very happy about. 0.99
00:06:47.760 But since then, he's allowed Netanyahu
00:06:49.380 to do whatever he wants.
00:06:50.340 And earlier this week, Netanyahu went on camera
00:06:52.560 and he said, we now control 60% of Gaza
00:06:54.700 and I'm going to take 70% of Gaza.
00:06:57.500 Even Biden, Harris, Blinken, none of them said
00:06:59.640 that would be possible.
00:07:01.040 Trump has basically given Netanyahu carte blanche
00:07:03.260 to do whatever he wants in the Gaza Strip.
00:07:04.800 So the answer to your question is,
00:07:06.380 what does he have to do to prove he's holding...
00:07:07.880 A guy like you.
00:07:09.580 It's impossible to win a guy like you.
00:07:11.460 I will give credit.
00:07:12.200 I'll say it now.
00:07:12.760 If what?
00:07:13.720 If he manages to get Netanyahu out of Lebanon and out of Gaza, 0.85
00:07:17.860 which he won't, but that's what I would want to see 0.94
00:07:19.980 because that's what's happened on his watch. 0.63
00:07:21.660 On his watch, Netanyahu's taken more territory in both those places.
00:07:24.520 Prove to me that you actually care about Middle East peace. 0.59
00:07:27.420 Prove to me that you have control over Netanyahu and American weapons
00:07:29.900 and get him to pull out because right now, 0.74
00:07:31.680 greater Israel is happening in front of our eyes.
00:07:33.260 Netanyahu's doing the project that far-right Israelis have always wanted.
00:07:35.980 He's taking Lebanon, southern Lebanon.
00:07:37.280 You're saying Egypt, Turkey, all this stuff.
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