Verdict with Ted Cruz - July 25, 2026


A CCP Connection the Media won't Cover, AI at the Oval & Can Schools be Taught to Read Again Week In Review


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00:01:40.480 Union. Welcome. It is Verdict with Ted Cruz week in review. Here are some of the stories that you
00:01:46.440 may have missed that we talked about this week. First up, a Chinese tycoon that is having major
00:01:52.560 influence in america now being investigated so what does this mean we explain it up next a big
00:02:00.140 meeting at the white house in the oval office talking about the future of ai senator cruz was
00:02:06.180 with the president talking about that and he gives us the details and finally major legislation to
00:02:12.260 help with children in america with reading yes actual standards before the federal government
00:02:18.040 sends your tax dollars so is it bipartisan enough to actually pass we break that down as well
00:02:24.140 it's the weekend review and it starts right now senator i want to start off this last segment by
00:02:29.900 saying i don't ever want our government to be weaponized against our political adversaries
00:02:35.120 notice i didn't even use the word enemy democrats use the word enemy to describe republicans i say
00:02:39.340 adversaries but i do want to hold those accountable that are actually doing corrupt things and we now
00:02:46.920 know a lot more about the investigation and the Chinese Communist Party tycoon, Neville Roy
00:02:52.780 Singham, and it should get a lot more attention than it is right now. Certainly the media,
00:02:57.720 they're looking the other way. Well, that's exactly right. And, you know, we ended the
00:03:01.720 last segment by talking about the need for accountability of the corruption within the
00:03:06.440 Biden administration, that those who broke the law need to be held to account. And on this
00:03:12.700 podcast we have talked at great length uh about the need to follow the money that that these
00:03:19.000 anti-american efforts look if you look at all of the stories in in today's pod they're interwoven
00:03:23.760 the dsa there is clearly a funding stream funding the anti-semitic protests on college campuses 0.80
00:03:31.740 funding the communists tearing this country apart funding the dsa funding the the black lives matter
00:03:37.500 antifa riots across the country funding the open border riots in la and elsewhere the money stream
00:03:43.580 and and what i've urged the department of justice what i've urged the fbi from the beginning of this
00:03:48.180 second trump administration follow the money the people who are paying for this this is not organic
00:03:54.160 when people carry out these acts of violence it's not organic when you look at the anti-semitic
00:03:58.860 protests the tents all match follow the money and then uh we in a previous podcast a couple of weeks
00:04:06.400 ago talked about the bombshell story that we've all seen the rising sentiment against AI that on
00:04:13.680 the left and the right suddenly people are saying gosh I don't like AI shut down data centers Kathy
00:04:18.220 Hochul just this past couple of weeks said no data centers in New York and the bombshell story that
00:04:24.540 much of that is being paid for by a communist named Neville Roy Singham who has deep ties to
00:04:33.360 the Chinese Communist Party. And listen, we're in a race, America and China, to see who will
00:04:39.420 develop AI first. If China wins, it will put China in a position to dominate the world economically,
00:04:45.500 but also whichever country wins, the values of that country will dominate AI. So if China wins,
00:04:54.440 AI will be dominated by Communist Party control and surveillance and propaganda and espionage
00:05:02.640 And I think all of us want AI to instead reflect American values, to reflect free speech and individual liberty and free enterprise.
00:05:12.480 Well, a bit of good news, which is the Trump Department of Justice is doing exactly that.
00:05:18.700 It's following the money and it's holding people to account.
00:05:21.420 Let me read from a story in CBS News.
00:05:23.920 Husband of Code Pink founder being investigated under federal foreign agent and tax laws.
00:05:30.120 Neville Roy Singham, the wealthy husband of the founder of the progressive nonprofit Code Pink
00:05:34.320 and the benefactor of far left political causes, is under criminal investigation by a grand jury
00:05:40.680 in the Southern District of New York, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the matter.
00:05:45.120 The investigation began by looking into possible violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act
00:05:50.280 and has since expanded into a criminal tax probe over whether the money was unlawfully funneled
00:05:56.740 through non-profits he controls, and whether he lied on the tax forms for those non-profits known
00:06:03.120 as 990s. Singham is a major financial backer of a New York City-based non-profit called the
00:06:11.320 People's Forum, a left-leaning non-profit that advocates for causes impacting the working class
00:06:17.080 and other marginalized groups. He's also the founder of ThoughtWorks, an IT consulting company,
00:06:22.420 and is married to Jody Evans, co-founder of the anti-war group Code Pink.
00:06:28.360 Singham sold ThoughtWorks to a private equity firm in 2017 for $785 million.
00:06:37.600 At around the same time, Singham moved his business operations to Shanghai, China
00:06:42.800 and began funding a vast global network of nonprofits and think tanks
00:06:48.540 to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.
00:06:53.700 According to reports of the Free Press and the New York Times,
00:06:57.700 Singham moved the funds through shell companies and other opaque entities,
00:07:01.780 advancing his brand of leftist politics while pushing pro-Beijing messaging.
00:07:09.060 He injected much of his own money into Code Pink,
00:07:12.460 funding up to a quarter of its operation, according to reports.
00:07:16.600 Soon, Code Pink softened its stance on China, which had previously been highly critical of
00:07:23.020 Beijing's human rights policies. Among other things, the group defended China against widespread
00:07:28.660 reports its government was committing genocide against a Muslim minority group in the country's
00:07:34.280 far northwest. So I and numerous other senators on the Judiciary Committee have urged the Department
00:07:40.280 of Justice to look into this. Chuck Grassley wrote a letter urging DOJ to do that. Here's
00:07:46.600 what Grassley's letter said, quote, evidence suggests that the People's Forum and Code Pink
00:07:50.640 have been funded and influenced by Mr. Neville Roy Singham and the communist Chinese government,
00:07:56.620 both of which are foreign principles. The evidence also suggests that the People's Forum and Code
00:08:01.480 Pink have engaged in covered political activities that directly advance the communist Chinese
00:08:07.040 government's political and policy interest. And by the way, Neville Roy Singham's response to that
00:08:15.040 is, quote, I categorically deny and repudiate any suggestion that I am a member of, work for,
00:08:20.600 take orders from, or follow instructions of any political party or government or their
00:08:24.800 representatives. I am solely guided by my beliefs, which are long-held personal views. So, well,
00:08:31.400 there's going to be an investigation into it. I don't know if this guy is just a communist who
00:08:35.940 hates America and wants to destroy our nation, or if he's a communist who hates America and
00:08:40.260 wants to destroy our nation, who is working directly for and may even be funded by the
00:08:44.660 Chinese communist government. That's one of the things that I would imagine the investigation
00:08:47.960 will examine. Either way, I am very glad the Department of Justice is examining the hundreds
00:08:54.900 of millions of dollars he is using to fund the people that are tearing our country apart.
00:09:02.140 Yeah, and that's the key thing there. 0.91
00:09:04.420 And if you're doing something that is illegal and it's coming in with the Chinese Communist Party,
00:09:09.680 why would anyone not want that to be investigated if that's what the evidence is showing?
00:09:14.840 That's the core part here that I think matters for all Americans.
00:09:17.960 You know, it's one of the things that is dangerous in this world where we're on social media,
00:09:22.720 where you see things, you're on X or Facebook or wherever you are.
00:09:26.400 And suddenly a lot of people seem concerned about something.
00:09:28.740 And that can seem organic.
00:09:30.120 And we are seeing more and more paid foreign influence operations.
00:09:34.800 And China puts a lot of money into undermining America.
00:09:39.480 Qatar puts a lot of money into undermining America.
00:09:42.040 Iran puts a lot of money into undermining America.
00:09:45.080 You know, there was a report from the Bitcoin Policy Institute that says for the past five
00:09:49.860 years, nonprofits funded by Neville Roy Singham have been putting out papers opposing export
00:09:56.300 controls on advanced semiconductors to China, putting out newsletters quoting Chinese communist
00:10:02.120 officials blasting America's approach to technology, and articles characterizing U.S.
00:10:09.220 data centers as fronts in the, quote, new Cold War on China. And this is a deliberate foreign 0.88
00:10:17.800 influence effort that is targeting the American economy. It's targeting AI. It's trying to get
00:10:25.260 America to stop leading in AI, and it's trying ultimately to defeat capitalism and destroy our
00:10:32.100 country. It has the exact same objectives as the DSA radicals that are taking over the Democrat 0.91
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00:12:55.240 Now on to story number two.
00:12:57.760 That's incredible.
00:12:58.640 So you went from that back to D.C. straight to the Oval Monday morning
00:13:03.740 for a very interesting meeting on AI at the White House.
00:13:07.460 Talk about that a little bit.
00:13:09.280 Yeah, so I took Amtrak and came from Manhattan down to D.C. on Monday,
00:13:14.200 and then I had a meeting at the Oval Monday afternoon.
00:13:16.140 And by the way, that is what we call welcome back to your real life when you go from the World Cup, Drew Barrymore, to Amtrak, to D.C.
00:13:22.420 I just that's a that's an interesting step down really quick.
00:13:25.780 And that's probably got on purpose doing that.
00:13:27.700 But keep going.
00:13:28.160 Oh, yeah.
00:13:28.860 Yeah.
00:13:29.160 Look, it was.
00:13:30.520 And so the meeting in the Oval, I was with the president.
00:13:34.020 I was with Marsha Blackburn, senator from Tennessee.
00:13:37.740 And I was with Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, and Kevin Hassett, the head of the National Economic Council and several other members, the White House staff.
00:13:44.480 and we were talking about AI, artificial intelligence, and it was a discussion about
00:13:51.520 what to do about it. And listen, Marsha has a package of bills that she's pitching, and it's
00:13:57.940 a package of bills. It's kids' safety bills. It's requiring app stores to verify ages. It's a bill
00:14:06.320 called No Fakes, which deals with preventing people from pirating and copying people's voices
00:14:14.080 and images um and so she was pitching to the president you should support my my package of
00:14:22.000 bills and and i'm chairman of the senate committee on commerce science transportation which has
00:14:27.000 jurisdiction over a ton of stuff including ai and so we're going to have a markup in the next couple
00:14:32.780 of weeks on a bunch of ai bills and marcia wants her bill to be one of them and so she laid it out
00:14:38.700 and i gotta say a lot of discussion she's pushing the president back my bill back my bill back my
00:14:43.780 bill and i stayed quiet for much of the meeting the meeting was like hour hour and a half long
00:14:48.700 and then i said at the end i said listen if marcia introduces the bill i'll mark it up i'll put it up
00:14:55.980 on on on the committee for a vote and i said i expect i'll support it all to be honest i'd never
00:15:01.940 read the bill until she handed it to me so i like she handed me a hundred page bill and i i didn't
00:15:06.600 know what was in it but i said look from what she's described in it i anticipate i'll support it
00:15:10.820 uh but i also said it was kind of near the end of the meeting but i said
00:15:15.300 because they had handed the president a a truth social post supporting the bill and i said look
00:15:23.620 someone needs to tell you this bill has very little if any chance of passing
00:15:30.900 and and like trump was surprised and i just said look there are different elements of it right now
00:15:37.740 there are no Democrats backing this bill. It's not clear that every Republican on the committee
00:15:43.820 will back the bill. Maybe they will. They might. And I said, let me be clear. I'll mark it up and
00:15:48.160 I expect to vote for it. So I'm not the opposition here, but I just want you to know
00:15:52.640 that at this point there's opposition from Democrats in the Senate. There's opposition
00:15:59.140 potentially from some Republicans in the Senate. And there's strong opposition on aspects of the
00:16:03.960 bill from republican leadership in the house and and so i just said i i don't want you to be
00:16:09.120 surprised you lean in and say let's go pass this bill and then it doesn't pass and so trump said
00:16:14.460 all right well well then i'm not going to support it i don't want to support something that doesn't
00:16:17.620 have a path to passage and and so we're going to mark up a series of bills i've told marsha if she
00:16:23.580 wants me to mark up her bill we will i don't know if she will ask for it or not can i ask a politics
00:16:29.100 question on this yeah how much of of of her bill is her pushing because she's running for governor
00:16:35.860 and really trying to get tennessee's hands on a lot of ai and ai infrastructure and ai in the state
00:16:42.000 not blame you for that but like is that part of this hardcore push where you're in the senate
00:16:46.900 you're going i understand both sides of this or am i reading the room wrong so listen there are
00:16:51.320 different components of it so let's take the different elements of the bill the first bill
00:16:55.680 is COSA, and COSA is a kid's safety bill. It's a good bill. I have supported it. I've voted for
00:17:01.320 it. In the last Congress, it passed the Senate 93 to 3. So I'm all for COSA. I'm a yes, I want it to
00:17:07.500 pass. Here's the problem. After it passed the Senate 93 to 3, it went to the House,
00:17:14.380 and the House refused to take it up. Why? Because the Speaker of the House and Steve Scalise,
00:17:21.660 the majority leader oppose the bill and the bill puts what's called a duty of care on the tech
00:17:27.900 companies that that that if there's content that harms kids they can be sued and and the house
00:17:34.880 leadership doesn't support that and so look frankly what i told marsh a year and a half ago is i said
00:17:39.720 listen i'll back coast again we can pass it again i'm fine with that but it will never become law
00:17:45.960 until you sit down with Johnson and Scalise
00:17:49.020 and work out an agreement.
00:17:50.140 Because if they refuse to take up the bill,
00:17:52.580 you want to pass it again?
00:17:53.780 We can do it.
00:17:54.420 You'll get $100 and nothing.
00:17:55.640 It doesn't matter if they're not going to take it up.
00:17:57.820 If the House won't take it up,
00:17:59.940 it's not going to become in the U.S. code.
00:18:01.660 And so I said,
00:18:02.760 what you need to do is sit down
00:18:05.600 and negotiate a compromise.
00:18:06.960 And it won't be everything you want,
00:18:08.460 but you need to find something
00:18:09.740 the House is willing to pass.
00:18:11.900 That hasn't happened.
00:18:13.080 So that's a real impediment.
00:18:14.740 I'm going to vote for COSA.
00:18:15.960 I want COSA to pass, but right now the house is not going to take it up.
00:18:22.580 There's a second component, which is called the App Store Accountability app, which is putting liability on an app store for age verification.
00:18:33.420 Now, there are a couple of problems with that.
00:18:35.340 Number one, there are tech companies like Meta, like Facebook that support it.
00:18:41.520 But Apple and Google hate it because they're the app stores.
00:18:44.640 And they're like, wait, you're making me liable.
00:18:47.020 So Apple and Google don't like it.
00:18:48.860 And so they're both the tech companies are divided.
00:18:51.180 They're lobbying on both sides.
00:18:53.240 And there's a competing bill that is called the parents over platforms bill, which is, frankly, the Apple and Google bill.
00:19:02.300 And there are several Republicans on the on the committee that support that bill.
00:19:06.760 And so I said, look, this is just a pissing match between giant tech companies.
00:19:11.880 I'd like to see age verification.
00:19:13.760 I support age verification. I'm pushing for it. But every Democrat opposes age verification. 0.99
00:19:19.640 So I said, listen, it's a simple math. If you lose all the Democrats and if you're losing some Republicans, I don't see how this passes.
00:19:28.000 Like, it's just a math like like I'm not opposed to it. I will vote yes.
00:19:33.480 But how do you get to the votes to pass it? There is additionally her bill.
00:19:39.640 no fakes now no fakes i'm on the judiciary committee judiciary committee has already
00:19:43.540 passed no fakes it was a voice vote i was fine with it no fakes has a lot of good elements to
00:19:49.200 it so no fakes is protecting say you have a musician and someone uses ai to create a fake
00:19:55.520 song for a musician and makes you liable for that in politics by the way this is coming
00:20:01.380 it hasn't really happened yet but it's coming soon you're going to see someone create ai and
00:20:07.160 take a video of a politician a fake video and and be like we should eat live kittens
00:20:14.840 and and it's going to be you're not going to be able to tell that it's fake like like it's going 0.83
00:20:19.980 to appear to be the real campaign that has to respond to a ridiculous absurd video right and
00:20:25.960 by the way amy klobuchar last year had a video of a hearing where she said a bunch of things
00:20:30.920 that were derogatory that she would never have said but it looked entirely real and she had to
00:20:37.340 respond to that that's going to explode a lot so finding some protections to say look someone can't
00:20:44.380 use your name image and likeness and create a counterfeit that nobody knows is fake i'm quite
00:20:51.480 supportive of that when the judiciary passed this bill there were several republicans mike lee eric
00:20:59.160 schmidt and myself who raised free speech concerns because the the way the language is written it's
00:21:05.080 quite broad so for example trump sent out uh the the the meme of hakeem jeffries and and chuck
00:21:12.060 schumer wearing sombreros singing yes now that was parody it wasn't real and i've retweeted it and
00:21:20.580 amplified it but there is an argument that under the language of no fakes that could be banned
00:21:28.640 Now, there is some language saying bonafide satire is okay, but there's a lot of gray area.
00:21:36.000 You think of Spencer Pratt and the hysterical ads he put out with Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass just like doing horrible things to people of California.
00:21:47.240 i have a concern that under the language and no fakes the tech platforms would take down those
00:21:56.000 ads because they'd say you're using gavin newsom's image in a way that he has not approved and so
00:22:03.040 my point was look i'd love to see this get done but i also want to protect free speech
00:22:09.340 so my point to the president was hey if you want to endorse this great i've got no problem with it
00:22:15.300 But you need to know that I don't see a path that this actually gets to pass in the Senate, take 60 votes, given that I don't know of a single Democrat supporting this bill.
00:22:28.620 And there may be Republicans opposing this bill.
00:22:32.740 The math doesn't work.
00:22:34.660 And so the president decided not not to support it.
00:22:37.680 Listen, I still expect that we will take up in the next couple of weeks a series of A.I. bills.
00:22:44.400 And by the way, we will do a podcast when we do that markup where we talk about the
00:22:48.200 AI bills we pass.
00:22:49.500 But what I'm trying to do right now is find, all right, let me use a Kamala Harris phrase,
00:22:55.240 the Venn diagram that is the intersection of what bills could make a positive impact
00:23:03.120 protecting people from some of the harms of AI, but at the same time that have a real
00:23:08.960 path to passage.
00:23:11.200 And so we'll move several bills on that.
00:23:13.400 But I'm trying to find exactly the right intersection right there.
00:23:17.660 And so we had that conversation and the president agreed with me.
00:23:21.340 As before, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation on this topic,
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00:25:37.660 I want to get back to the big story number three of the week you may have missed.
00:25:42.280 Senator, I want to move to this education bill that is so important that you have been working on.
00:25:48.700 Explain what this bill is, why it's important right now, and why Americans should be paying attention to it.
00:25:55.560 Yeah, look, you talked a minute ago about how one of the reasons why we're having young people, particularly young people who stay in the education system for a long time, get so radicalized, so left-wing, so America-hating, so capitalism-hating, so communism-embracing, is because our education system is broken.
00:26:15.940 And that's certainly true at the university level, particularly the so-called elite universities.
00:26:21.380 But it is also true in K-12.
00:26:23.600 and and one consequence of k-12 getting radicalized is is that it drives the politics crazy left
00:26:30.420 but another consequence is they failed in their basic job of teaching and and you know you used
00:26:37.020 to go and learn the the the three r's reading writing and arithmetic and i mean that used to
00:26:41.360 be like the core of what you were learning yeah if you look what a novel idea by the way what a
00:26:46.880 novel idea you go to you go to school to learn to read writing to arithmetic like isn't that amazing
00:26:51.420 that someone came up with that curriculum one day and then we just decide to abandon it right
00:26:55.600 well and there is a literacy crisis the numbers of students coming out of school who can't read
00:27:02.900 yeah who don't have the ability to read is staggering i'm gonna give you some of the stats
00:27:06.560 so in 2024 the national assessment of educational progress which what's called the nape the the
00:27:14.560 reading assessment showed that 33 percent of eighth graders are reading at a level that is
00:27:22.160 quote below basic. 33 percent, a third of eighth graders can't read at even the barest minimum of
00:27:30.520 levels. For 12th graders, the average reading scores were three points lower than in 2019
00:27:38.080 and 10 points lower than in 1992 so it is a staggering crisis and and and one of the big
00:27:48.460 reasons for that it is that you've had left-wing radicals take over teachers colleges education
00:27:55.560 programs the teachers unions and and they've moved away from what actually works uh they've
00:28:02.740 adopted a a an approach to to reading that is called three cueing so three cueing uh is something
00:28:12.200 that uses context and pictures and sentence structures rather than phonics look when i
00:28:17.960 learned to read we learned phonics we would diagram sentences phonics works and you know
00:28:23.020 what we now know three cueing does not it's a disaster um and it's produced terrible results
00:28:31.400 So a number of states, Florida, Indiana, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, Texas, West Virginia, and Wisconsin, have all banned teaching 3QE because the data are terrible.
00:28:41.960 It fails to teach kids to read.
00:28:44.960 What is amazing, though, is a number of schools instead have focused on what's called the science of reading, which is going back to phonics, going back to the basics of teaching reading, and the results have been staggering.
00:29:00.560 and and and there's something called all right you're an old miss grad you're gonna like this
00:29:04.740 there's something called the mississippi miracle i love this already keep keep keep singing this
00:29:12.280 song i'm ready in 2013 mississippi's reading numbers were not good mississippi was 49th in
00:29:20.680 the nation yeah on the national assessments and reading they began then going in on the science
00:29:27.900 of reading and vigorously teaching phonics, and Mississippi has risen from 49 in the country
00:29:33.660 to a top 10 state in the country in fourth grade reading achievement. By the way, it wasn't money
00:29:43.060 that did it. It was actually teaching what works. Alabama, by the way, did the same thing. They moved
00:29:49.460 from 49th to 34th. Louisiana. Louisiana moved from 49th to 32nd. And here's what the New York
00:29:59.000 Times said. You're going to like this. The New York Times said in 2019, blue states had better
00:30:04.540 average test scores than red states after adjusting for demographics. Now, red states
00:30:10.040 are mostly ahead. That's the New York Times. And so what happened on this legislation is I
00:30:16.480 I introduced legislation this week that takes the existing federal grants that go to education.
00:30:21.140 There's a pretty big funding stream from the federal government to states for education.
00:30:26.140 And the reading funds, the legislation I introduced said if you want to get those reading funds, you have to use the reading methods that are demonstrated empirically to work.
00:30:39.600 You have to have what actually works and what the data shows work.
00:30:43.940 You can't teach this garbage that results in kids not learning.
00:30:48.380 You've got to use the empirically successful methods. 0.90
00:30:52.060 And what's interesting.
00:30:53.700 By the way, who's against this bill?
00:30:55.200 Because if you have the data you just mentioned there showing where this is working, you would think this would be bipartisan.
00:31:02.720 So it actually is.
00:31:04.000 So I introduced this bill with Brian Schatz.
00:31:06.740 Brian Schatz is a Democrat.
00:31:07.960 He's from Hawaii.
00:31:09.660 Interestingly enough, Brian is widely considered the next Democrat leader in the Senate.
00:31:15.540 He's widely considered the most likely successor to Chuck Schumer.
00:31:19.600 Interesting.
00:31:20.360 And Brian, I know well, he's a friend of mine.
00:31:22.820 He's on the Commerce Committee with me.
00:31:24.460 I'm the chairman of the Commerce Committee.
00:31:25.780 He and I have done a number of bills together.
00:31:28.040 And look, when you talk with Brian, he's a Democrat, so he can be left-wing on a lot of issues.
00:31:33.920 But one-on-one, he can be quite reasonable.
00:31:36.840 As you know, I play hoops every week.
00:31:38.400 brian's come out several times and played hoops with me i mean he's and i'm going to say something
00:31:43.340 that's going to surprise you this bill was his idea really he came to me he came to me on the
00:31:51.320 senate floor and he said ted have you seen the data from mississippi and the mississippi miracle
00:31:57.200 and the incredible reading scores that are coming out of mississippi and by the way this doesn't
00:32:01.680 happen often democrats don't praise red states that often um and i said yeah i have it's fantastic
00:32:08.240 And he said, what do you think about us joining together to draft legislation that would require, if you're going to get the federal funds that are going for literacy, you've got to teach using the reading methods that the data show actually produce results.
00:32:23.180 And I said, I think that'd be fantastic.
00:32:25.300 I'm a huge fan of phonics.
00:32:26.800 I don't like these woke teaching methods that are just a failure and a disaster.
00:32:32.680 And it's interesting.
00:32:33.780 My team, I went to them and I said, hey, you know, shots pitch doing this.
00:32:37.140 and my team was skeptical they said we don't really believe a democrat's going to go along
00:32:42.120 with something that is praising what's working in red states and and by the way implicitly
00:32:48.520 criticizing the woke education policies in many blue states to brian's credit look i mean he he
00:32:55.060 we introduced it together you asked who opposes it i i will confess it's early enough now that
00:33:01.020 that i don't want to give you an answer to that my assumption my assumption is the teachers unions
00:33:06.020 will oppose it my assumption is some of the blue states will oppose it and the sort of woke
00:33:12.100 educrats the people who are teaching at the education schools who are teaching teachers
00:33:17.420 who are teaching this nonsense that doesn't work i assume all those guys will oppose it but but i'll
00:33:23.700 say this we just introduced it i'm going to try to see if we could move it forward and maybe we
00:33:29.500 get support for it i hope we do by the way what do you need when you say move it forward so people
00:33:33.720 understand, and this is one of the reasons why I love doing this show, when you say you're hoping
00:33:39.220 you get the support, what does moving it forward actually look like in the legislature? So look,
00:33:44.180 you dropped the bill initially. The next step that we'll work on doing is trying to get other
00:33:49.060 supporters, trying to get other co-sponsors. So I'll reach out to other Republicans and other
00:33:53.380 Democrats. Brian will reach out to other Democrats and also Republicans. I'd like to get a pretty
00:33:59.620 good group of bipartisan co-sponsors and there are a number of democrats that i've worked with
00:34:03.720 on different bills who and particularly given that it's brian and me we i think we can get
00:34:08.120 other senators to co-sponsor it so let's say we get a half dozen r's and a half dozen d's
00:34:12.620 that starts to be a bill that's got some real heft to it because you look particularly if you've got
00:34:17.580 some ideological diversity the bill would go uh go to to committee at first um i i assume this
00:34:27.600 would go to what's called the HELP Committee, which is the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
00:34:31.280 Committee. So the first step is to get the committee to mark it up. We'll work to get
00:34:38.160 more sponsors, to get a bigger coalition behind it, and then I'll go to the chairman of that
00:34:43.320 committee, that's Bill Cassidy, and ask him to mark it up, which is for the committee to take
00:34:47.840 it up and pass it. And if we've got a good enough coalition behind it, we've got a real chance at
00:34:52.040 that. Once it gets out of committee, there are a couple of paths you can take to passing it. One
00:34:57.160 path is to try to pass it by unanimous consent. Now, I've passed a lot by unanimous consent. If
00:35:04.340 you do the work and build the coalition, you can get things done that way. But a single senator
00:35:10.540 can object. So I don't know right now if this is possible. You may have an Elizabeth Warren or
00:35:15.280 someone on the far left who objects to this. The other way to pass it is to attach it to another
00:35:23.120 vehicle that that is moving another bill that is being passed to put it on that and and so
00:35:28.700 we've got some time to get there we've got to build the coalition we've got to get it out of
00:35:32.740 committee we've got to get it teed up where it's in a position to then try to pass it and then when
00:35:37.500 you get out of the senate then you try to pass it in the house and and i'm confident the president
00:35:41.940 would sign it so we are early in that process but i'm encouraged to see that that we're able to get
00:35:48.860 a Democrat and Republican working together
00:35:50.840 saying, look, we really ought to teach our kids
00:35:52.940 to read.
00:35:54.380 It should be 100 to 1, in my opinion,
00:35:57.200 teaching kids to read. That should not be a problem.
00:35:59.580 And it might be.
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00:36:54.520 Surely goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life.
00:36:58.360 What was meant for my harm, Lord, I want to thank you right now.
00:37:01.600 You're turning to my advantage.
00:37:03.080 Your daily source of hope and encouragement.
00:37:06.000 Your second wind is on its way.
00:37:08.840 God is about to breathe on your life in a new way.
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