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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- November 29, 2025
Al-Shabaab & the Minnesota Taxpayers, University Declares ‘Whiteness’ a Pandemic plus Texas Takes Aim at Terror Week In Review
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
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Guaranteed human.
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Welcome, it is Verdict with Ted Cruz.
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Week in Review, Ben Ferguson with you.
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And these are the stories that you may have missed
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that we talked about this past week.
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First up, the largest funder
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of a terrorist organization, Al-Shabaab,
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apparently is the American taxpayer.
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How did this happen?
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We'll explain it in just a moment.
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Also, whiteness is apparently a pandemic
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so dangerous that one university says
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it's a major study point that we have to talk about.
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And finally, Texas designates the Muslim Brotherhood
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a terrorist organization.
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And the president follows suit.
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It's the Week in Review, and it starts right now.
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There is a story that broke
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that should make every American angry.
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And that is the story of the largest funder
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of Al-Shabaab.
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Turns out to be, and Al-Shabaab is a terrorist organization,
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a Somali terrorist organization,
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is actually the Minnesota taxpayers.
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Now, that may just seem like a weird headline to people,
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but what we're witnessing is tax dollars
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funneling directly to the Islamic terrorist organization,
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and it's been going on at numbers
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that were clearly warning signs
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when Joe Biden was president,
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and the amount of funds that were leaving Minnesota.
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And no one seemed to bat an eye,
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or no one seemed to care that this was happening.
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Break it down for everybody
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that doesn't know anything about this.
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Well, this is a story that's really
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at the intersection of two issues
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that matter enormously.
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Number one is waste, fraud, and abuse in government.
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And we see that at the federal government.
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We see that at the state level,
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particularly in big blue states.
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But secondly, the rise of radical Islam in America.
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And it's dangerous.
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It is threatening our liberty.
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And it is spreading.
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It's spreading often with the enthusiastic cheerleading
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of Democrat elected officials.
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This story is right at the intersection of both of them.
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And so the City Journal reported,
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I'm just going to read a portion of this article
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because it really is, it's a stunning report.
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And it begins,
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the largest funder of Al-Shabaab
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is the Minnesota taxpayer.
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How some of the state's welfare funds
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ended up in the hands of a terror group.
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Minnesota is drowning in fraud.
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Billions in taxpayer dollars have been stolen
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during the administration of Governor Tim Waltz alone.
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Of course, Tim Waltz was Kamala Harris's nominee to be VP.
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Democrat state officials overseeing
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one of the most generous welfare regimes in the country
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are asleep at the switch.
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And the media, duty-bound by progressive pieties,
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refuse to connect the dots.
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In many cases, the fraud has allegedly been perpetrated
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by members of the Minnesota's sizable Somali community.
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Federal counterterrorism support sources confirm
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that millions of dollars, millions,
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in stolen funds have been sent back to Somalia,
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where they ultimately landed in the hands
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of the terror group Al-Shabaab.
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One confidential source put it,
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quote,
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The largest funder of Al-Shabaab
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is the Minnesota taxpayer.
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Our investigation shows what happens
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when a tribal mindset meets a bleeding-heart bureaucracy,
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when imported Klan loyalties collide
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with a political class too timid to offend,
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and when accusations of racism are cynically deployed
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to shield criminal behavior.
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The predictable result is graft,
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with taxpayers left to foot the bill.
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If you were to design a welfare program
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to facilitate fraud,
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it would probably look a lot like
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Minnesota's Medicaid Housing Stabilization Services Program.
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The HHS program, the first of its kind in the country,
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was launched with a noble goal
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to help seniors, addicts, the disabled,
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and the mentally ill secure housing.
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It was designed with, quote,
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low barriers to entry and, quote,
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minimal requirements for reimbursement.
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Nonetheless, before the program went live in 2020,
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officials pegged its annual estimated price tag
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at $2.6 million.
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Cost quickly spiraled out of control.
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In 2021, the program paid out more than $21 million.
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By the way, it was projected to be $2.6 million.
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In the following year,
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annual costs shot up to $42 million,
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then $74 million, then $104 million.
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On August 1st,
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Minnesota's Department of Human Services
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moved to scrap the HHS program,
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noting that payment to 77 housing stabilization providers
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had terminated this year
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due to credible allegations of fraud.
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Joe Thompson, then the acting U.S. Attorney
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for the District of Minnesota,
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went even further, saying,
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the vast majority, let me repeat that,
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the vast majority of the HHS program
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was fraudulent.
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On September 18th,
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Thompson announced criminal indictments
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for HHS fraud
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against Mokhtar Hassan Aydin,
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Mustafa Dayib Ali,
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Khalid Ahmed Dayib,
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Abdi Fita Mohammed Mohammed,
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Christopher Adesoli Falad.
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By the way, Ben,
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you try to go through those names.
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Yeah, I'm going to pass on that.
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You did a great job.
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I give you a B-plus on that.
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Okay.
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Six of whom,
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according to the U.S. Attorney's Office,
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are members of Minnesota's Somali community.
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Thompson made clear
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this is the first round of charges
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for HHS fraud
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that his office will be prosecuting.
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Most of these cases,
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unlike a lot of Medicare fraud
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and Medicaid fraud nationally,
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aren't just overbilling,
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Thompson said in a press conference
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announcing the indictments.
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These are often just
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purely fictitious companies
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solely created to defraud the system,
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and that's unique
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in the extent to which
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we have that here in Minnesota.
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Thompson said many of the firms
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enrolled in the program
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operated out of dilapidated storefronts
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or run-down office buildings.
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The perpetrators often targeted people
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recently released from rehab,
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signed them up for Medicaid services
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they had no intention of providing.
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He noted many of the owners of companies
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engage in HHS fraud,
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had other companies
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through which they build
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other Medicaid programs,
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such as the EIDBI Autism Program,
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the Adult Rehabilitative Mental Health Services Program,
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the Integrated Community Services Program,
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the Community Access for Disability Inclusion Program,
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PCA services,
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and other Medicaid-waivered services.
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What we see are schemes,
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stacked upon schemes,
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draining resources meant for those most in need.
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It feels never-ending.
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I have spent my career as a fraud prosecutor,
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and the depth of the fraud in Minnesota
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takes my breath away.
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You read that,
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and you just think about
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how much money this is
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that not only was stolen from the taxpayers,
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and they go into how much it kept growing
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and growing and growing,
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these programs,
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but it's obvious that people knew there was fraud.
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Then you find out
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it's going to a terrorist organization,
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and so we're funding the terrorist organization.
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How the hell do people not go to jail for this?
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Well, they are.
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A number of people are being prosecuted.
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But, you know,
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what is striking is
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not just was there massive fraud,
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but the massive fraud was funding terrorism.
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Here's what the City Journal continues saying.
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Perhaps the most surprising aspect
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of the Somali fraud story
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is the scale,
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with total costs running into
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the billions of taxpayer dollars.
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That raises the question,
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what happened to all that money?
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The Somali fraud rings
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have sent huge sums and remittances,
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or money transfers,
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from Minnesota to Somalia.
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According to reports,
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an estimated 40% of households in Somalia
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get remittances from abroad.
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In 2023 alone,
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the Somali diaspora sent back
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$1.7 billion,
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more than the Somali government's budget
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for that year.
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Our investigation reveals,
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for the first time,
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that some of this money
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has been directed
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to an even more troubling destination.
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The Al-Qaeda-linked Islamic terror group,
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Al-Shabaab.
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According to multiple law enforcement sources,
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Minnesota's Somali community
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has sent untold millions
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through a network of Hawala's,
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informal,
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clan-based money traders,
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that have wound up
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in the coffers of Al-Shabaab.
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According to Glenn Kearns,
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a retired Seattle Police Department detective
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who spent 14 years
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on a federal joint terrorism task force,
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The Somalis ran a sophisticated money network
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spanning from Seattle to Minneapolis
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and were routing significant amounts of cash
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on commercial flights
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from the Seattle airport
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to the Hawala networks in Somalia.
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One of these networks,
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Kearns discovered,
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sent $20 million abroad
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in a single year.
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So this is money
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that's coming from the Minnesota taxpayers.
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It is going through the Somali community
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in Minnesota,
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back to Somalia
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on the order of magnitude
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of $1.7 billion a year.
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And millions of those dollars
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were flowing directly to Al-Shabaab,
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an Al-Qaeda-linked
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major terrorist organization.
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This is tragic.
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It is shocking.
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And by the way,
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I'm curious,
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have you seen it on CNN?
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No.
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NBC, CBS?
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Nope, none of them.
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None of them touching it.
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MSNBC?
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No.
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Washington Post,
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New York Times?
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Nope.
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You would think that would be news.
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I also look at the amount of money
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and how quickly it grew.
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That's something else
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that I do think is interesting here,
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is how, I mean,
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you want to talk about warning signs,
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Senator.
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There was clear warning signs.
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Like, very, very clear warning signs
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that this was happening.
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And yet,
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no one in government
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seemed to stop, pause,
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or ask a question.
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That part also,
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to me,
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is just like,
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is it always unlimited funds?
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Is that how it's now in government?
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Whatever you start,
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just keep making it grow
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and double and triple in size
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year after year after year
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and spinning.
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And no one's like,
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hold on a second,
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this doesn't add up.
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This many kids with autism,
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that doesn't seem normal.
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Look how much it went,
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doubled from last year,
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the year before,
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the year before that.
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I mean,
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there's a clear line here
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of like red flags
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that no one seemed to care about.
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Well, and it's worth remembering,
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Tim Waltz is not someone
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at the fringe
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of the Democrat Party.
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Tim Waltz is who Kamala Harris
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thought should be
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vice president
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of the United States.
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Presumably,
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Kamala thought
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that he should succeed her
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and become the president
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of the United States.
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And Tim Waltz,
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like many Democrats,
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but Waltz is worse
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than many of them,
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just look the other way,
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just turn a blind eye.
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And one combination,
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it's a combination
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of a number of factors,
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one piece of it is
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just the left-wing view
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that the more money
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you're giving away
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in welfare,
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the better.
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And so it doesn't matter
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how much it grows.
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If you're giving
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a million dollars this year,
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they want it to be two million,
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then four,
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then six,
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then eight,
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then 12.
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They want it to grow
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without any consideration
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about number one,
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bankrupting the state
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and the taxpayers,
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but number two,
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about the impact
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of spending all that money
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trapping people
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in dependency.
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But a second component of it,
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it's not just dependency.
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Dependency assumes
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someone's actually
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getting welfare payments.
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It is also blatant fraud.
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And there is unfortunately
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a network of corruption
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where many of those
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engage in fraud
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are also writing checks
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to elect Democrats.
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And if you look
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at the Somali community
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in Minnesota,
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it is a major voting network
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that votes for Democrats
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in Minnesota.
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And so at the end of the day,
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the Democrats,
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when it comes to buying votes,
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shoveling this cash
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into this maw of fraud,
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even though the taxpayers
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were being robbed
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and the money was going
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to a radical Islamic
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terrorist organization,
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if you're a Democrat,
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it made political sense
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on some level
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because you got money
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and you got votes.
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And it is astonishing
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that there's not,
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do you know
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of a single Democrat
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denouncing this?
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No.
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I mean,
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that's a striking thing.
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Now,
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the rest of this conversation,
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Now on to story number two.
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Senator,
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finally on the show,
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let's deal with
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a major problem.
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It's huge.
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A university
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is now warning
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of a quote-unquote
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whiteness pandemic.
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Not a problem,
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but a pandemic,
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a whiteness pandemic.
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This coming
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from the University
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of Minnesota.
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I'll let you
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take it from there.
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Yeah,
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I gotta say
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this is gonna piss you off.
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Are you white?
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Then apparently
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you are an evil,
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noxious scourge
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on America.
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You are a pandemic.
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You are a virus.
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You are a disease.
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And woke leftists
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are gonna re-educate
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the whiteness
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right out of you.
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Like,
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I wish I were
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making this up.
00:13:22.580
Like,
00:13:22.700
when I say these words,
00:13:24.840
you sound like a lunatic.
00:13:26.900
You sound like you're wearing
00:13:28.160
like a tinfoil hat
00:13:29.320
and you believe
00:13:30.600
in conspiracy theories.
00:13:32.100
But I want to read to you
00:13:34.140
from a website
00:13:35.700
from the University
00:13:36.620
of Minnesota.
00:13:37.400
By the way,
00:13:37.740
this is a state website.
00:13:39.020
This is,
00:13:39.760
all right,
00:13:40.100
here's what the website says.
00:13:41.820
Quote,
00:13:43.000
what is the whiteness pandemic?
00:13:46.320
Racism is an epidemic
00:13:47.540
that can also be considered
00:13:49.140
a pandemic
00:13:49.900
given its large
00:13:51.300
cross-national proportion
00:13:52.580
and spread.
00:13:53.160
However,
00:13:54.640
there is another pandemic
00:13:55.820
lurking behind
00:13:56.640
and driving
00:13:57.340
the racist pandemic.
00:13:59.160
The whiteness pandemic.
00:14:01.860
Whiteness refers to culture,
00:14:03.260
not biology.
00:14:04.380
The centuries-old culture
00:14:05.740
of whiteness
00:14:06.420
features colorblindness.
00:14:08.200
In other words,
00:14:08.620
not being a racist,
00:14:09.620
that is the whiteness pandemic.
00:14:11.620
Passivity
00:14:12.200
and white fragility
00:14:14.280
were all covert expressions
00:14:16.580
of racism
00:14:17.300
common in the United States.
00:14:19.840
Naming the whiteness pandemic
00:14:21.200
shifts our gaze
00:14:22.260
from the victims
00:14:23.000
and effects of racism
00:14:24.180
onto the systems
00:14:25.720
that perpetrate
00:14:26.500
and perpetuate racism,
00:14:27.760
starting with the family system.
00:14:30.000
In other words,
00:14:30.900
families are racist
00:14:32.180
if you believe in families,
00:14:33.320
if you believe in a mom
00:14:34.280
and dad raising kids,
00:14:35.520
loving kids.
00:14:36.440
That is,
00:14:37.140
the family system
00:14:38.080
is part of the whiteness pandemic.
00:14:41.400
At birth,
00:14:42.920
young children
00:14:43.820
growing up
00:14:44.440
in white families
00:14:45.580
begin to be socialized
00:14:46.880
into the culture
00:14:47.680
of whiteness,
00:14:49.180
making the family system
00:14:50.700
one of the most powerful systems
00:14:52.640
involved in systemic racism.
00:14:55.340
This is open.
00:14:56.320
We hate families
00:14:57.340
is what the University of Minnesota
00:14:58.480
is saying.
00:15:00.000
And, okay,
00:15:01.260
what's the next section?
00:15:03.080
Quote,
00:15:03.820
how do we halt
00:15:04.980
and reverse
00:15:06.300
the whiteness pandemic?
00:15:08.660
If you were born
00:15:09.620
and raised
00:15:10.160
in the United States,
00:15:11.080
you have grown up
00:15:12.280
in the whiteness pandemic
00:15:14.120
and you can play a role
00:15:15.700
in halting
00:15:16.340
or reversing this pandemic,
00:15:18.200
especially if you are white
00:15:19.900
because of the power
00:15:20.820
and privilege you hold
00:15:22.000
in this racialized society.
00:15:24.420
If you were socialized
00:15:25.960
into the culture of whiteness
00:15:27.200
during your childhood,
00:15:28.440
it is not your fault,
00:15:30.020
but as an adult,
00:15:31.040
it is now your responsibility
00:15:32.780
to self-reflect,
00:15:34.620
to re-educate yourself
00:15:36.180
and act.
00:15:37.800
If you are a white adult,
00:15:40.360
anti-racist action
00:15:41.680
involves an ongoing process
00:15:43.340
of self-reflection
00:15:44.460
in order to develop
00:15:46.020
a healthy,
00:15:46.860
positive white identity
00:15:48.000
while encouraging
00:15:49.500
courageous,
00:15:50.920
anti-racist parenting
00:15:52.800
slash caregiving.
00:15:54.960
What utter
00:15:56.200
and complete garbage.
00:15:58.340
What racist,
00:15:59.480
leftist,
00:16:00.100
communist dreck.
00:16:01.880
And this is
00:16:02.640
the University of Minnesota.
00:16:03.680
By the way,
00:16:04.720
look,
00:16:05.340
there are like
00:16:06.340
great people in Minnesota.
00:16:08.480
They're great people
00:16:09.280
in every state
00:16:09.980
and yet these people
00:16:11.240
are racist radicals
00:16:13.780
and this is what
00:16:15.380
they're indoctrinating
00:16:16.500
our children with.
00:16:17.680
Not only do they
00:16:18.340
indoctrinate our children,
00:16:19.360
but this is where
00:16:19.960
a lot of our dollars,
00:16:21.060
our tax dollars go,
00:16:22.120
which is the other
00:16:22.640
frustrating part
00:16:23.400
that this is what
00:16:24.100
they're indoctrinating
00:16:24.880
them with.
00:16:26.640
Undoubtedly,
00:16:27.360
and by the way,
00:16:29.120
our podcast on Monday,
00:16:30.620
so we do this podcast
00:16:31.540
three days a week,
00:16:32.360
Monday, Wednesday,
00:16:32.960
and Friday,
00:16:33.340
our podcast on Monday
00:16:34.380
talked about
00:16:35.880
what is the number
00:16:38.720
one funder
00:16:40.980
of Al-Shabaab,
00:16:44.400
the radical
00:16:45.460
Islamic terrorist group.
00:16:47.880
And the answer,
00:16:48.820
terrifyingly enough,
00:16:49.760
is the taxpayers
00:16:50.640
of the state of Minnesota.
00:16:52.360
So Minnesota
00:16:52.940
has a huge
00:16:54.160
Somali community.
00:16:56.120
Somalis have invaded
00:16:57.300
the state of Minnesota.
00:16:58.260
It's how you elect
00:16:58.920
Ilhan Omar,
00:16:59.820
who actively
00:17:00.880
is anti-American,
00:17:03.380
racist,
00:17:04.600
radical,
00:17:05.700
embraces and supports
00:17:07.180
radical Islamic terrorists.
00:17:09.540
And the Somali community
00:17:11.740
sends billions
00:17:13.460
every year
00:17:14.400
back to Somalia,
00:17:16.540
and millions
00:17:18.420
of that money
00:17:19.780
sent back
00:17:20.420
ends up directly
00:17:21.680
in the pockets,
00:17:22.560
in the coffers
00:17:23.300
of Al-Shabaab.
00:17:24.740
And it is the
00:17:25.460
Minnesota state taxpayers.
00:17:27.340
So we detailed
00:17:28.500
this on Monday,
00:17:29.420
how
00:17:30.080
welfare fraud,
00:17:33.240
fraudulent
00:17:34.140
collection of
00:17:34.880
welfare payments,
00:17:36.520
an entire
00:17:37.360
welfare system
00:17:38.320
set up
00:17:38.980
seemingly
00:17:40.320
on the face
00:17:40.980
of it
00:17:41.260
to encourage
00:17:41.980
fraud,
00:17:42.400
to facilitate
00:17:42.960
fraud,
00:17:43.800
is resulting
00:17:45.020
in Minnesota
00:17:46.000
taxpayers
00:17:46.740
sending millions
00:17:47.720
of dollars
00:17:48.200
to radical
00:17:48.740
Islamic terrorists.
00:17:50.260
This is the
00:17:51.360
same ideology.
00:17:53.420
Like,
00:17:54.360
what do you
00:17:56.000
do
00:17:56.520
if you happen
00:17:58.300
to be a white
00:17:58.800
kid at the
00:17:59.320
University of
00:17:59.840
Minnesota?
00:18:00.340
You show up
00:18:01.020
and be told,
00:18:03.120
by the way,
00:18:03.560
you're just,
00:18:04.100
you know,
00:18:04.380
you're a 17,
00:18:05.740
18-year-old kid.
00:18:06.660
You show up
00:18:07.000
as a freshman.
00:18:08.080
And if you're
00:18:09.180
white,
00:18:09.560
you're told
00:18:09.980
you're a
00:18:10.640
pandemic,
00:18:11.460
you're a virus,
00:18:12.640
and the only
00:18:13.520
answer is
00:18:14.160
re-educate
00:18:15.220
yourself.
00:18:16.740
Because who
00:18:17.680
you are,
00:18:18.800
who America
00:18:19.600
is,
00:18:19.980
and understand
00:18:20.620
this screed
00:18:21.340
against,
00:18:21.840
quote,
00:18:22.060
anti-whiteness,
00:18:23.260
is also a
00:18:24.440
screed against
00:18:24.980
America.
00:18:25.400
These Marxists
00:18:27.100
hate the
00:18:28.260
United States
00:18:28.860
of America.
00:18:29.380
They hate
00:18:29.600
the Constitution.
00:18:30.320
They hate
00:18:30.560
our freedoms.
00:18:31.680
And this
00:18:32.500
garbage that
00:18:33.580
is anti-racism,
00:18:34.680
this garbage
00:18:35.220
that is
00:18:35.620
DEI,
00:18:36.700
this garbage
00:18:37.360
that says
00:18:37.900
we must
00:18:38.620
institutionalize.
00:18:39.520
By the way,
00:18:39.920
the fix
00:18:40.480
for the
00:18:41.440
anti-
00:18:42.400
for the
00:18:43.340
whiteness
00:18:43.700
pandemic
00:18:44.160
is to
00:18:45.160
discriminate
00:18:45.640
against
00:18:46.160
anyone who
00:18:46.780
is white.
00:18:47.320
It's to
00:18:47.640
institutionalize
00:18:48.800
racism,
00:18:49.320
and that is
00:18:50.300
grotesque.
00:18:50.920
It is wrong.
00:18:51.720
It is contrary
00:18:52.600
to the
00:18:53.600
14th Amendment
00:18:54.320
of the
00:18:54.580
Constitution,
00:18:55.240
which protects,
00:18:56.520
provides the
00:18:57.100
equal protection
00:18:57.720
of the law
00:18:58.780
to all people
00:18:59.660
regardless of
00:19:00.640
race.
00:19:01.500
It is contrary
00:19:02.580
to the founding
00:19:03.120
notions of this
00:19:03.920
country.
00:19:04.540
The Declaration
00:19:05.420
said we
00:19:06.860
hold these
00:19:07.320
truths to be
00:19:07.760
self-evident
00:19:08.260
that all
00:19:09.300
men are
00:19:10.000
created equal,
00:19:10.800
not some,
00:19:11.780
not just white
00:19:12.660
people,
00:19:13.000
not just black
00:19:13.500
people,
00:19:13.820
not anyone,
00:19:14.540
all men
00:19:15.240
and all women
00:19:15.940
are created
00:19:16.460
equal,
00:19:16.880
that they are
00:19:17.200
endowed by
00:19:17.860
their creator
00:19:18.460
with certain
00:19:18.940
unalienable
00:19:19.420
rights,
00:19:20.200
that among
00:19:20.800
them are life,
00:19:21.700
liberty,
00:19:21.920
and the pursuit
00:19:22.320
of happiness.
00:19:22.960
That's what
00:19:23.380
this country
00:19:23.860
was built
00:19:24.340
on,
00:19:24.980
and these
00:19:25.620
Marxists
00:19:26.280
who have
00:19:26.580
taken over
00:19:27.080
our institutions
00:19:27.760
hate that
00:19:29.460
notion,
00:19:30.840
and this
00:19:31.260
kind of
00:19:31.620
garbage is
00:19:32.200
being spewed
00:19:33.640
to our
00:19:34.140
children and
00:19:34.820
being used
00:19:35.320
to brainwash
00:19:36.120
our children
00:19:36.740
at a massive
00:19:38.680
rate.
00:19:39.520
I tell this
00:19:39.980
all the time
00:19:40.420
to parents
00:19:40.820
when they
00:19:41.080
ask,
00:19:41.400
be careful
00:19:41.820
where you
00:19:42.180
send your
00:19:42.640
kids to
00:19:43.180
college,
00:19:43.620
because they
00:19:44.420
could be
00:19:44.720
indoctrinated
00:19:45.220
to literally
00:19:45.700
hate this
00:19:46.460
country.
00:19:47.480
This is
00:19:47.760
another example
00:19:49.080
of exactly
00:19:50.120
that.
00:19:50.380
And to hate
00:19:50.840
their mom
00:19:51.220
and dad.
00:19:51.600
By the
00:19:52.540
way,
00:19:53.060
what I
00:19:53.560
just read,
00:19:54.180
the family
00:19:54.900
system,
00:19:55.620
they are
00:19:55.960
attacking
00:19:56.540
families.
00:19:57.160
They're
00:19:57.420
telling your
00:19:58.540
kids,
00:19:59.540
family is
00:20:00.580
evil.
00:20:01.180
That's what
00:20:01.720
Marxists
00:20:02.240
believe.
00:20:03.520
As before,
00:20:04.560
if you want
00:20:05.020
to hear the
00:20:05.360
rest of
00:20:05.700
this conversation
00:20:06.460
on this
00:20:07.220
topic,
00:20:07.740
you can go
00:20:08.140
back and
00:20:08.620
download the
00:20:09.160
podcast from
00:20:09.980
early this
00:20:10.440
week to
00:20:10.760
hear the
00:20:11.040
entire thing.
00:20:12.820
I want to
00:20:13.460
get back to
00:20:14.100
the big story
00:20:15.100
number three
00:20:15.640
of the week
00:20:16.040
you may have
00:20:16.480
missed.
00:20:17.360
This is
00:20:17.820
something that
00:20:18.300
you've been
00:20:18.700
talking about
00:20:19.220
for a while.
00:20:20.320
Yep.
00:20:20.920
Designating the
00:20:21.480
Muslim Brotherhood
00:20:22.300
as a terrorist
00:20:22.740
organization,
00:20:23.340
and Texas is
00:20:25.160
now taking a
00:20:25.740
big step.
00:20:26.320
I think this is
00:20:27.000
going to be a
00:20:27.320
great example for
00:20:28.040
the rest of the
00:20:28.480
country.
00:20:29.620
Talk about how
00:20:30.720
big of a
00:20:31.120
victory this is
00:20:31.820
in Texas
00:20:32.340
leading the
00:20:32.780
way.
00:20:33.420
Well, it's a
00:20:34.040
big victory.
00:20:34.580
Let me tell you
00:20:34.960
about what
00:20:35.300
Texas did,
00:20:36.040
and I'm going
00:20:36.360
to take it
00:20:37.040
more broadly
00:20:37.620
into the
00:20:38.020
national fight
00:20:38.780
over designating
00:20:39.480
the Muslim
00:20:39.840
Brotherhood.
00:20:40.880
So Texas
00:20:41.400
this week
00:20:41.980
declared CARE
00:20:42.980
and the Muslim
00:20:43.500
Brotherhood as
00:20:44.040
terrorist groups
00:20:44.740
preventing land
00:20:45.800
purchases.
00:20:46.500
Let me read
00:20:46.920
from Fox News.
00:20:48.360
Texas Governor
00:20:48.940
Greg Abbott
00:20:49.500
designated the
00:20:50.200
Council on
00:20:50.780
American-Islamic
00:20:51.880
Relations CARE
00:20:52.860
and the Muslim
00:20:53.640
Brotherhood as
00:20:54.320
Foreign Terrorist
00:20:55.640
and Transnational
00:20:56.580
Criminal
00:20:56.940
Organizations
00:20:57.660
Tuesday.
00:20:58.960
Preventing both
00:20:59.880
groups from
00:21:00.500
obtaining land
00:21:01.560
in the Lone
00:21:02.240
Star State.
00:21:03.760
Abbott said in
00:21:04.360
a statement that
00:21:04.960
he made the
00:21:05.400
move as
00:21:06.100
quote,
00:21:06.500
the Muslim
00:21:06.840
Brotherhood and
00:21:07.480
CARE have
00:21:07.980
long made
00:21:08.620
their goals
00:21:09.120
clear.
00:21:10.240
To forcibly
00:21:10.940
impose Sharia
00:21:11.900
law and
00:21:12.800
establish Islam's
00:21:14.280
mastership of
00:21:15.080
the world.
00:21:16.600
The actions
00:21:17.160
taken by the
00:21:17.820
Muslim
00:21:18.040
Brotherhood and
00:21:18.620
CARE to
00:21:19.040
support terrorism
00:21:19.820
across the
00:21:20.380
globe and
00:21:20.920
subvert our
00:21:21.440
laws through
00:21:21.980
violence,
00:21:22.620
intimidation,
00:21:23.280
and harassment
00:21:23.800
are unacceptable.
00:21:25.780
Today, I
00:21:26.860
designated the
00:21:27.560
Muslim Brotherhood and
00:21:28.380
CARE as
00:21:28.940
foreign terrorist
00:21:29.680
organizations and
00:21:30.680
transnational
00:21:31.500
criminal
00:21:32.280
organizations.
00:21:33.940
These radical
00:21:34.700
extremists are not
00:21:35.760
welcome in our
00:21:36.380
state and are now
00:21:37.300
prohibited from
00:21:37.980
acquiring any real
00:21:39.120
property interest in
00:21:40.200
Texas.
00:21:41.500
A proclamation signed
00:21:42.800
by Abbott claims that
00:21:43.800
CARE, quote,
00:21:44.540
is an Islamist
00:21:45.540
organization that,
00:21:46.760
according to the
00:21:47.100
FBI, was founded as a
00:21:49.300
front group for Hamas
00:21:50.740
and its support network
00:21:52.280
in the United States.
00:21:53.640
It added that, quote,
00:21:55.820
CARE and its members
00:21:56.940
have repeatedly
00:21:57.580
employed, affiliated
00:21:58.860
with, and supported
00:21:59.940
individuals promoting
00:22:01.300
terrorism-related
00:22:02.280
activities, including
00:22:04.200
Ghassan Elashi, a
00:22:06.760
founding member of the
00:22:07.620
Texas Branch for
00:22:08.440
CARE and treasurer of
00:22:10.000
the Holy Land Foundation
00:22:11.260
for Relief and
00:22:12.040
Development charity,
00:22:13.560
quote, who was
00:22:14.240
sentenced to a total
00:22:15.220
of 65 years in
00:22:16.660
prison for financing
00:22:18.380
terrorism in 2009.
00:22:19.820
The proclamation also
00:22:21.600
states that Hamas
00:22:22.680
was, quote,
00:22:23.800
formed in 1987 as
00:22:25.500
the Palestinian branch
00:22:26.540
of the Muslim
00:22:26.960
Brotherhood, and that
00:22:28.300
activities of the
00:22:29.000
Muslim Brotherhood
00:22:29.620
branches have similarly
00:22:30.580
been eliminated or
00:22:31.640
prohibited by the
00:22:33.600
governments of
00:22:34.200
Austria, Bahrain,
00:22:35.860
Egypt, Jordan,
00:22:36.780
Saudi Arabia, and the
00:22:37.600
United Arab Emirates
00:22:38.620
in light of the
00:22:39.780
Muslim Brotherhood
00:22:40.500
encouraging terrorism
00:22:41.680
or attempting to
00:22:42.720
destabilize these
00:22:43.640
countries.
00:22:44.640
Look, this is real
00:22:45.640
leadership from the
00:22:46.620
state of Texas.
00:22:47.500
It is what the
00:22:48.600
federal government
00:22:49.200
should be doing.
00:22:50.040
The Muslim
00:22:50.400
Brotherhood, I
00:22:50.940
believe, is
00:22:51.280
unquestionably a
00:22:52.180
terrorist organization,
00:22:53.140
and we have yet to
00:22:55.260
designate them, as
00:22:56.440
Governor Abbott noted,
00:22:57.840
many other countries
00:22:58.660
on earth have, and I
00:22:59.860
believe the United
00:23:00.560
States, during the
00:23:01.920
Trump administration,
00:23:02.900
we're going to do
00:23:03.360
this.
00:23:03.620
I've introduced
00:23:04.040
legislation literally
00:23:05.140
for 10 years to make
00:23:06.220
this happen at a
00:23:06.880
federal level.
00:23:07.680
So what has been the
00:23:08.600
holdup there for
00:23:09.360
people that are new
00:23:10.020
to this subject?
00:23:10.740
We talked about
00:23:11.300
before, maybe they
00:23:11.980
missed an episode.
00:23:13.020
How the hell is it
00:23:13.840
so hard to get the
00:23:15.820
Muslim Brotherhood to
00:23:16.700
be declared a
00:23:17.580
terrorist organization
00:23:18.280
through the U.S.
00:23:19.080
government?
00:23:19.560
What is the holdup?
00:23:20.800
You mentioned it.
00:23:21.580
This is like a
00:23:22.100
decades-long fight
00:23:23.000
now.
00:23:23.700
So for five
00:23:24.620
consecutive
00:23:25.100
congresses, I've
00:23:25.920
introduced legislation
00:23:26.900
to designate the
00:23:27.680
Muslim Brotherhood.
00:23:28.640
The holdup, we got
00:23:29.900
very close during the
00:23:31.360
first Trump
00:23:31.880
administration.
00:23:32.320
I thought we were
00:23:33.120
going to get it
00:23:33.520
done during the
00:23:34.260
first Trump
00:23:34.680
administration.
00:23:35.920
The resistance was
00:23:37.520
from the deep state
00:23:38.820
at the State
00:23:39.360
Department, the
00:23:39.980
career bureaucrats
00:23:41.020
there, and I'll
00:23:42.300
tell you, the old
00:23:43.020
versions of the
00:23:43.700
legislation, the way I
00:23:44.740
wrote it, it was
00:23:45.400
top-down.
00:23:46.040
What does that
00:23:46.540
mean?
00:23:46.780
It directed the
00:23:47.940
State Department to
00:23:49.260
designate the Global
00:23:50.480
Muslim Brotherhood, which
00:23:51.440
is the big umbrella
00:23:52.340
organization as a
00:23:53.380
terrorist organization.
00:23:54.880
Here's the argument the
00:23:56.160
career employees at State
00:23:57.360
made.
00:23:57.640
They said, look, there are
00:23:58.420
lots of different
00:23:59.080
affiliates of the
00:23:59.740
Muslim Brotherhood.
00:24:01.040
We cannot definitively
00:24:02.620
prove that every one of
00:24:03.960
the affiliates meets the
00:24:05.280
statutory criteria for being
00:24:06.780
a terrorist organization.
00:24:07.980
That's how they stopped it
00:24:09.260
from happening in Trump.
00:24:10.720
So in Trump 2, I rewrote
00:24:13.560
the legislation, and
00:24:14.600
instead of being
00:24:15.560
top-down, I rewrote it
00:24:18.600
to be bottom-up.
00:24:19.540
And so what the
00:24:20.100
legislation currently
00:24:21.060
says is it says that
00:24:23.820
the State Department
00:24:24.700
should designate every
00:24:26.220
one of the Muslim
00:24:27.100
Brotherhood affiliates for
00:24:28.300
which the evidence is
00:24:29.420
clear and unequivocal as
00:24:31.600
terrorist organizations.
00:24:32.700
For example, Hamas.
00:24:34.100
Yeah.
00:24:34.580
Hamas is the Muslim
00:24:35.740
Brotherhood in Palestine.
00:24:36.880
It is indisputable that
00:24:38.380
Hamas is a terrorist
00:24:39.600
organization.
00:24:40.720
They carried out
00:24:41.500
October 7th, murdered
00:24:42.680
1,200 Israelis, raped
00:24:44.220
and murdered women
00:24:45.360
and little girls.
00:24:46.800
Hamas is unquestionably
00:24:47.980
a terrorist organization.
00:24:49.100
That's true of multiple
00:24:50.300
Muslim Brotherhood
00:24:51.060
affiliates.
00:24:52.080
What my new legislation
00:24:53.220
said is designate
00:24:54.360
those affiliates, and
00:24:56.180
then it directs the
00:24:57.320
State Department to
00:24:58.240
designate the Global
00:24:59.520
Muslim Brotherhood
00:25:00.400
because it gives money
00:25:01.740
to those affiliates,
00:25:02.700
and so designate the
00:25:04.240
umbrella organization for
00:25:05.860
material support of,
00:25:07.100
for giving money to
00:25:08.360
unquestionable terrorist
00:25:10.640
organizations.
00:25:11.540
Now, part of the reason
00:25:13.260
I think we're going to
00:25:13.800
get this done is that
00:25:15.000
chain of reasoning,
00:25:16.220
there's not a step in
00:25:17.160
that reasoning that is
00:25:18.920
assailable.
00:25:19.640
The deep state can't
00:25:20.840
fight that.
00:25:22.000
Yeah.
00:25:22.740
But at the end of the
00:25:23.560
day, let me tell you,
00:25:24.200
this is not going to be a
00:25:25.420
fight, I think, that is
00:25:26.460
won legislatively.
00:25:27.920
So I've introduced the
00:25:28.760
legislation.
00:25:29.980
I tried very, very hard
00:25:31.420
in this Congress to get a
00:25:32.520
Democrat to support me.
00:25:34.000
I will tell you, I talked
00:25:35.120
to numerous Democrats.
00:25:36.860
They said no.
00:25:37.460
They said no.
00:25:38.880
Look, the Democrat
00:25:39.640
Party is very afraid,
00:25:41.900
unfortunately, of
00:25:43.120
disturbing the pro-Hamas
00:25:45.080
wing of their party.
00:25:46.880
In the House, the
00:25:49.440
companion legislation to
00:25:50.880
my legislation has four
00:25:52.120
Democrats on board, so we
00:25:53.280
do have some Democrat
00:25:54.140
support.
00:25:54.980
I was able to get one
00:25:56.040
Democrat, so John
00:25:56.940
Fetterman is supporting
00:25:57.840
me.
00:25:58.100
So the legislation is
00:25:59.140
Cruz Fetterman.
00:25:59.860
It is bipartisan.
00:26:01.220
By the way, can we just
00:26:02.100
pause there and just talk
00:26:03.180
about how cool that is?
00:26:04.600
The more that we have
00:26:06.700
interacted, that you've
00:26:07.500
interacted with, John, the
00:26:08.540
more respect I really do
00:26:09.660
have for him as a Democrat,
00:26:11.240
the way he stood up to his
00:26:12.240
party on the shutdown.
00:26:13.840
Look, there are some
00:26:14.800
places where you don't win
00:26:16.340
races.
00:26:17.300
I never thought I would
00:26:18.460
say I am thankful for
00:26:19.640
John Fetterman and his
00:26:20.980
leadership in the Senate
00:26:21.980
when he was first elected.
00:26:23.800
I got to tell you, he may
00:26:25.320
be the biggest surprise in
00:26:26.580
the last decade for me of
00:26:28.780
a true Democrat
00:26:30.680
statesman that is
00:26:32.700
willing to come to the
00:26:34.040
table on sane issues
00:26:35.900
like the government
00:26:36.540
shutdown or like this.
00:26:38.300
And I think when this
00:26:39.800
happens, we as
00:26:40.620
conservatives should take
00:26:41.740
that moment and say job
00:26:42.900
well done to Senator
00:26:44.220
Fetterman.
00:26:45.040
I'm really impressed
00:26:46.440
because there's a lot of
00:26:47.200
issues.
00:26:47.520
He says politics are
00:26:48.520
aside.
00:26:49.260
I don't care the heat I'm
00:26:50.220
going to get from my party
00:26:51.080
for this.
00:26:51.480
I'm going to do the right
00:26:52.520
thing.
00:26:53.000
We used to have a lot more
00:26:54.360
of that in politics.
00:26:55.480
Yeah, it used to be much
00:26:56.740
more commonplace.
00:26:58.300
When I showed up in the
00:26:59.480
Senate 13 years ago,
00:27:00.840
there was such a thing as
00:27:02.140
moderate Democrats.
00:27:04.620
They largely don't exist.
00:27:06.100
Actually, someone before
00:27:07.360
that was Kyrsten Sinema.
00:27:08.820
Kyrsten Sinema was
00:27:09.620
elected from Arizona.
00:27:11.760
When she came in, there
00:27:13.420
was not a whole lot of
00:27:14.360
reason to believe she would
00:27:15.400
be a moderate.
00:27:16.020
And I will say, Kyrsten,
00:27:17.040
I really like Kyrsten.
00:27:18.140
She stood up to her
00:27:19.040
party.
00:27:19.440
She demonstrated real
00:27:20.460
courage.
00:27:21.380
And you know what
00:27:21.860
happened?
00:27:22.160
The Democrats chased her
00:27:23.240
out of the party.
00:27:23.900
Both Sinema and Joe
00:27:24.840
Manchin, who were the
00:27:25.600
only two Democrats who
00:27:26.580
said no to eliminating
00:27:28.580
the filibuster, the
00:27:29.720
Democrats chased both of
00:27:31.020
them out of the party.
00:27:31.840
They said, we don't want
00:27:32.820
any dissent.
00:27:33.520
You must obey the
00:27:35.280
dictates of the radical
00:27:36.340
left.
00:27:36.900
Well, John Fetterman got
00:27:38.600
elected.
00:27:39.340
And listen, you and I
00:27:40.380
both did not support him
00:27:42.260
when he was running for
00:27:43.240
the Senate to begin with.
00:27:44.940
He was a Democrat.
00:27:46.340
And his prior record as
00:27:48.040
Lieutenant Governor of
00:27:48.900
Pennsylvania gave little
00:27:50.520
reason to think that he
00:27:52.140
would be anything other
00:27:53.040
than a left-wing Democrat.
00:27:54.360
That's certainly what I
00:27:55.340
anticipated.
00:27:56.940
He has astonished me.
00:27:58.500
I like John personally.
00:28:00.260
He obviously, during the
00:28:01.600
campaign, suffered a
00:28:03.380
stroke.
00:28:03.800
He had serious medical
00:28:06.500
issues.
00:28:07.020
It was very difficult.
00:28:08.020
His mind could not
00:28:09.000
process the spoken word.
00:28:10.640
So when he was newly
00:28:11.480
elected, you would talk
00:28:13.360
to him, but he would
00:28:14.220
carry around an iPad that
00:28:16.260
translated the words that
00:28:17.860
are being said into text.
00:28:19.080
And he would have to read
00:28:19.760
the iPad because it was
00:28:20.880
just one of the
00:28:21.360
consequences of the
00:28:22.180
stroke, that when you
00:28:22.820
talk to him, his brain
00:28:24.880
was operating, but the
00:28:26.260
input of the oral
00:28:28.440
spoken word did not
00:28:30.560
make it through.
00:28:31.820
I will say his health
00:28:33.200
has improved significantly.
00:28:34.700
He's now able to have a
00:28:35.860
conversation and engage.
00:28:37.300
So the aftermath of the
00:28:39.100
stroke, thankfully, has
00:28:39.960
gotten better.
00:28:41.400
But Fetterman has shown
00:28:42.600
real courage in standing
00:28:44.280
up to his party on the
00:28:45.240
shutdown.
00:28:46.140
He stood up to Schumer
00:28:47.140
and said, this shutdown
00:28:47.960
is stupid.
00:28:48.540
We need to end the
00:28:49.220
shutdown.
00:28:49.740
And on Israel, the level
00:28:51.860
of courage he has shown
00:28:53.200
by saying the pro-Hamas
00:28:54.540
wing of our party is
00:28:55.620
wrong.
00:28:55.980
It is terrible.
00:28:57.460
And I, John Fetterman,
00:28:58.660
are proud to stand with
00:28:59.480
Israel.
00:28:59.940
It's been heroic.
00:29:01.900
And I got to say, he's
00:29:02.940
been demonized by his own
00:29:04.680
party.
00:29:05.140
The Democrats, they treat
00:29:07.840
him terribly.
00:29:08.820
The Republicans in the
00:29:09.640
Senate treat him much
00:29:10.480
better than the Democrats
00:29:11.340
do.
00:29:11.840
Well, and not only demonize
00:29:12.880
him, this goes back to
00:29:13.940
his civility.
00:29:14.700
He had a fall this past
00:29:16.100
week, and Democrats were
00:29:18.260
cheering his fall before we
00:29:21.020
even knew, like, his
00:29:21.900
health.
00:29:22.160
Now, he put up a picture
00:29:22.960
of himself.
00:29:23.840
I was glad to see he's
00:29:24.780
going to be okay.
00:29:25.440
But, like, it just tells
00:29:26.640
you about how much, if
00:29:27.760
you don't get in line with
00:29:28.760
the Democratic Party, it
00:29:30.100
doesn't matter if your name's
00:29:30.820
Fetterman or Schumer at this
00:29:32.740
point, or Nancy Pelosi.
00:29:34.220
Like, it is off with your
00:29:35.800
heads in the Democratic
00:29:36.600
Party as a leadership
00:29:37.980
perspective from them.
00:29:39.320
They are done with you if you
00:29:41.340
are not going to the extreme
00:29:42.580
left on every issue.
00:29:43.820
So, Ben, it's worse than that.
00:29:46.180
When Fetterman newly arrived in
00:29:48.100
the Senate, the Democrats all
00:29:49.360
assumed he would just be a
00:29:50.700
left-wing, reliable vote.
00:29:52.440
And so you had all the
00:29:53.140
Democrats putting out
00:29:53.940
statement, he's fine, his
00:29:55.080
health is not a problem.
00:29:56.040
And as I said, the stroke had
00:29:57.240
very real and limiting effects
00:29:59.320
on him.
00:29:59.820
I mean, it was significant.
00:30:02.340
But every Democrat defended
00:30:04.260
him.
00:30:04.740
And then, as his health started
00:30:06.180
to get better, he was willing
00:30:09.020
to buck the Democrats.
00:30:10.260
And if you disagree with the
00:30:11.860
Democrat Party line on even
00:30:13.060
one issue, but especially on
00:30:14.500
an issue like the current
00:30:16.480
Democrat Party's embrace of
00:30:18.140
Hamas and their anti-Israel
00:30:20.140
animus, they turned on him
00:30:22.880
viciously.
00:30:23.620
And I've got to tell you,
00:30:24.300
there have been dozens of
00:30:25.640
articles written with quotes
00:30:28.080
from Democrat senators,
00:30:29.520
Democrat staffers, just doing
00:30:31.700
everything they could to
00:30:33.520
shiv him, to say, to actually
00:30:35.960
attack his mental capability
00:30:37.600
and say, oh, he's not able to
00:30:38.880
do the job.
00:30:39.460
The irony is, they attacked
00:30:42.100
him once he had improved
00:30:43.400
significantly and was
00:30:44.420
recovering, but yet, in their
00:30:47.220
view, the unforgivable sin was
00:30:49.400
daring to deviate from what
00:30:50.980
every other Democrat was
00:30:52.100
saying.
00:30:53.220
And I view Fetterman as the
00:30:55.040
exception that proves the
00:30:56.180
rule.
00:30:57.320
That being said, this
00:30:59.320
legislation to designate the
00:31:00.640
Muslim Brotherhood at the
00:31:01.480
national level, it's Cruz
00:31:02.540
Fetterman, to pass, we would
00:31:05.940
need 60 senators.
00:31:07.020
That would mean we would need
00:31:08.220
at least seven Democrats.
00:31:10.980
I have no indication that
00:31:12.700
seven Democrats are likely to
00:31:14.260
support this.
00:31:14.840
I'm going to try.
00:31:15.580
I'm going to keep pressing it.
00:31:17.120
We'll see.
00:31:17.780
We'll put it for a vote.
00:31:18.780
I would love to have that
00:31:20.540
bipartisan support.
00:31:21.560
But as of now, I've not been
00:31:24.300
able to get any other
00:31:25.160
Democrats.
00:31:25.600
How discouraging is it?
00:31:26.640
I mean, when you ran for
00:31:27.480
Senate, you know, several
00:31:28.920
years ago, did you ever think
00:31:30.840
you'd you would govern in a
00:31:34.000
body, work with a group of
00:31:35.320
people where you can't even get
00:31:36.480
agreement on a designating a
00:31:39.000
terrorist organization, a
00:31:40.160
terrorist organization?
00:31:41.840
Oh, look, partisan politics has
00:31:43.840
always been part of Washington.
00:31:45.640
That being said, it's gotten
00:31:48.020
much, much worse.
00:31:49.080
And actually, when President
00:31:50.120
Trump, when President Trump
00:31:52.080
got elected in 2016, it broke
00:31:54.520
the heads of the Democrats.
00:31:55.980
Their minds are melted.
00:31:57.100
They just hate him.
00:31:58.020
And so there's much less
00:31:59.860
middle ground.
00:32:00.480
But anyway, my strategy on the
00:32:02.700
Muslim Brotherhood legislation is
00:32:04.180
not necessarily to pass it through
00:32:05.940
Congress, although I'd love to.
00:32:07.100
I'm going to continue trying to
00:32:08.560
pass it through Congress.
00:32:10.160
But it is instead to build the
00:32:12.300
public case for this so that the
00:32:14.580
Trump administration does so
00:32:16.140
unilaterally.
00:32:16.820
They have the authority to do so.
00:32:18.100
There's no dispute.
00:32:18.920
As I said, in Trump one, we
00:32:20.920
almost got it done.
00:32:22.180
And I believe that President
00:32:24.140
Trump will do so.
00:32:25.200
I think he'll do so probably in
00:32:26.520
the next year.
00:32:27.920
I was in the White House just a
00:32:30.240
couple of weeks ago.
00:32:30.960
I talked with the president
00:32:31.880
directly about designating the
00:32:33.700
Muslim Brotherhood.
00:32:35.440
I have met with Seb Gorka, who
00:32:38.100
is the senior official
00:32:39.320
and the National Security
00:32:40.220
Council, who's handling this
00:32:41.360
issue, as I've talked with Seb
00:32:42.440
about it.
00:32:43.820
I believe the Trump
00:32:44.920
administration will do it this
00:32:46.320
time.
00:32:46.660
I think the fact that we
00:32:47.600
redesigned it to be bottom-up
00:32:49.060
is going to make it much
00:32:50.860
harder for the deep state to
00:32:52.420
oppose it.
00:32:53.660
And I want to commend Greg
00:32:54.820
Abbott in the state of Texas
00:32:55.760
because Texas is designating
00:32:57.580
the Muslim Brotherhood and
00:32:58.600
CARE as well really helps for
00:33:01.420
building the momentum.
00:33:02.620
The whole purpose of the
00:33:03.460
legislative push is to build
00:33:05.540
the momentum to provide the
00:33:06.780
air cover for the Trump
00:33:08.820
administration to do so, and
00:33:10.300
I think that's going to
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happen.
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All right.
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I also want to bring up CARE,
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and this is another aspect of
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this, you know, legislation in
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Texas making it clear.
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It's not just the Muslim
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Brotherhood.
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It's also CARE.
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This one's a little bit more of
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a complicated organization.
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Break that down why they're
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also getting on the list.
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Yeah, it's not actually that
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complicated.
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I mean, CARE is a domestic
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organization.
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They have previously been
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implicated in supporting Hamas,
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supporting other terrorist
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organizations.
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Let me read a story from the
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New York Post.
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It's entitled,
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Muslim Group CARE Cutting
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$1,000 Checks for Anti-Israel
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Agitators Who Have Been
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Disciplined by Colleges.
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And here's what the New York
00:33:48.820
Post reported.
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Anti-Israel agitators who
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spread disruption at U.S.
00:33:52.980
colleges and were punished by
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authorities were awarded
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checks for $1,000 by a
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Muslim non-profit, the Post
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has learned.
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The money was given to
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students who faced penalties
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for leading pro-Palestinian
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protests before and after the
00:34:06.880
Hamas attack on Israel on
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October 7, 2023, according to
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a bombshell report by the
00:34:12.580
Network Contagion Research
00:34:13.740
Institute and the Intelligent
00:34:15.440
Advocacy Network.
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The cash was awarded from a
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quote,
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Champions of Justice Fund set
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up by a California chapter of
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the Council on American
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Islamic Relations CARE as an
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institutional endorsement, the
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report claims.
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In California, the largest arm of
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the CARE web of non-profits,
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affiliates in San Francisco and
00:34:35.720
Los Angeles raised more than
00:34:37.380
$100,000 in donations for the
00:34:40.940
campus radicals, while the main
00:34:42.960
group solicited $64,000 in
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donations, records show.
00:34:47.860
The money was then offered as
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interest-free loans in grants of
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$1,000 to students who lost
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scholarships, housing, or other
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support because of their advocacy,
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according to CARE's website.
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This is, you have CARE literally,
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you want to know why you had
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anti-Semitic protests on college
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campuses.
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I've been saying from the
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beginning, follow the money.
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There's clear money behind it.
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Follow the money.
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The tents all matched, and it's
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because this is being funded, and
00:35:15.080
this is being funded by Islamists,
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this is being funded by communists,
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this is being funded by foreign
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nations, this is being funded by
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left-wing, billionaire donors who
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frankly want to undermine America.
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And so, Texas designating CARE as
00:35:29.400
well, that's a big step forward
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also.
00:35:32.440
As always, thank you for
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00:35:35.920
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