Verdict with Ted Cruz - ANOTHER Massive Somali Fraud in Ohio plus Tucker Descends into Madness

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00:00:04.460 Welcome, it is Vertiqua Center Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:08.100 It's nice to have you with us on the show, and we've got a big one for you,

00:00:11.360 including more Somali fraud reported in a Republican state, and it is massive. 0.97

00:00:19.020 Well, I gotta say, the pattern we're seeing of fraud, 0.84

00:00:22.220 of people stealing from the federal taxpayers, stealing from you, is staggering. 0.98

00:00:27.700 We saw, first of all, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Somali fraudsters stealing over $9 billion from taxpayers. 0.99

00:00:35.500 But the problem is not limited to Minnesota. 1.00

00:00:39.800 We now have a breaking blockbuster story from Daily Wire about Ohio. 0.97

00:00:45.760 The very same pattern, Somali fraudsters engaged in fake home health companies stealing tens of millions of dollars from the taxpayers. 0.98

00:00:54.380 This is a pattern that I think exists across the country. It's in the big blue states. It's in 0.99

00:01:00.440 California. It's in New York. It's in Illinois. But it may well be in all 50 states. We're going

00:01:05.560 to break it down and reveal the shocking facts of the theft that is going on in broad daylight.

00:01:12.940 We're also going to talk about the continued descent of Tucker Carlson into the spiral of

00:01:18.380 madness. And I don't say that word lightly. He did an interview with the New York Times where he gets

00:01:24.340 wackier and wackier. He attacks me over and over and over again. Apparently, I am living rent-free

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00:01:35.780 accused Donald J. Trump of being the Antichrist. Now, when the New York Times confronted him about

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00:04:32.120 Senator, just since we started this show and we have this Somali fraud that we're going 0.97

00:04:37.220 to talk about in Ohio, but there's a new article that just came out. 1.00

00:04:41.080 I'm just going to read the headline because it just shows how fast the fraud is being exposed. 0.85

00:04:45.940 Somalis reportedly filled an Ohio strip mall with potential fraudulent child care centers. 0.98

00:04:51.740 This coming from the AB6 investigators there in Columbus,

00:04:55.120 saying several Somali-owned daycare facilities, including a cluster located strip mall,

00:04:59.740 which, by the way, don't exist, they've now been uncovered.

00:05:03.620 And then that is on top of another local station that just exposed a massive trucking company fraud.

00:05:11.080 All of these trucking companies, like dozens and dozens, all at the same exact address in these suites.

00:05:18.420 So now we've got new fraud on top of fraud on top of the fraud we're going to talk about on this show today.

00:05:23.600 Yeah, it's a stunning pattern.

00:05:25.260 And it's clear the fraudsters believe they would never face any scrutiny, that no politician would hold them to account, that no prosecutor would hold them to account,

00:05:33.320 that nobody in the media would ever report as they were stealing millions and millions of dollars from the taxpayers.

00:05:38.720 And I got to say, that tide is starting to turn. There's a blockbuster story, The Daily Wire,

00:05:45.540 by Luke Rosiak, who is the same lawyer who broke the Loudoun County story in Virginia,

00:05:51.720 that ended up electing Glenn Youngkin as the governor of Virginia. So he's demonstrated that

00:05:56.640 he can do real news work in a way that CNN, ABC, NBC, they don't do anymore. But this story,

00:06:04.760 I want to read a good chunk of this story because if you haven't read it, you need to know what's in

00:06:08.940 it. It's entitled Daily Wire Investigation Reveals One of the Biggest Government Waste Scandals

00:06:14.100 Hiding in Plain Sight. I've been investigating federal waste and fraud for 20 years. This is

00:06:19.920 the biggest scandal I've ever found. Columbus, Ohio, just before the Department of Government

00:06:25.420 Efficiency closed its doors. It made a quiet move that may end up being its most lasting impact

00:06:31.800 on the federal deficit. Doge published a massive trove of data in February that for the first time

00:06:39.240 let the public see what companies are billing Medicaid for. For decades, the payouts have

00:06:46.040 been shrouded in secrecy. One of the largest government programs was a black box. I've spent

00:06:52.960 the past two months diving into the numbers. What I found was the most blatant waste of federal

00:06:58.040 dollars that I've encountered in my two decades as an investigative reporter. I've set my sights

00:07:05.260 in Ohio, which, like Minnesota, has been granted waivers to expand Medicaid well beyond its original

00:07:12.440 purpose. Under the guise of health care, Ohio pays people to go to Medicaid beneficiaries' homes

00:07:19.760 to perform, quote, homemaking and, quote, chores, like cooking and cleaning. The people performing

00:07:27.860 these quote personal services tasks don't even have to be health care workers and in many cases

00:07:33.160 are actually relatives of the medicaid recipient according to a daily wire data analysis

00:07:41.760 ohio spent a billion dollars billion with a b on home health care in 2024 the last year for which

00:07:50.160 data is available since the services are performed inside private residences there's no way to know

00:07:57.380 whether the workers went at all, or what they're actually doing in exchange for taxpayer funds.

00:08:03.540 An infinite number of small black boxes inside a black box. Multiple signs said the service

00:08:11.400 provided and billed to the government was sometimes just, quote, companionship and

00:08:18.760 conversation. So understand, you can talk to your relatives, you can hang out with your relatives

00:08:23.360 and talk to them and the federal government will pay you just for talking to grandpa i mean you

00:08:29.060 listen to that story and it doesn't even make sense until you understand that that's exactly

00:08:33.960 what they're doing they're like hey we're gonna pay you to hang out not take care hang out with

00:08:40.440 a relative they're also how would they get all the patients for the fraud to work you put it on

00:08:46.880 a billboard right like you put up billboards you recruit family members to defraud the government by

00:08:52.900 hanging out and spending time with your own mom or dad or aunt or uncle or brother or sister

00:08:57.880 and we will pay you to do that and it i mean it's just if that's not the definition of fraud i don't

00:09:04.320 know what is well it gets worse as people have realized the united states government will pay

00:09:10.140 them to hang out with their own families there it is northeast columbus has seen its economy

00:09:16.800 replaced by businesses that bill medicaid and columbus a city with the second largest somali

00:09:25.100 population in the country did you know that columbus ohio no i did not and that's shocking

00:09:30.760 but now it explains why the fraud's so high well columbus has become on the surface the most

00:09:37.460 unhealthy city on the planet now to be clear what we mean by that because like usually in the past

00:09:43.900 you hear unhealthy city you usually hear that's like a city that's overweight where the people

00:09:47.740 aren't active here they're just flooding cash yeah like this is this is the unhealthy as in

00:09:54.820 how much money is it taking to take care of people through medicare that is what's making it the most

00:10:00.280 unhealthy city in america it's not that it's like overweight population food deserts and things like

00:10:05.220 that this is how bad the fraud is well here's what one person said quote well if the government

00:10:11.560 is going to pay you to do it, one home health operator told me. People see it as lucrative,

00:10:16.960 so they just jump on it. The new welfare queens aren't the recipients whose low incomes qualify 1.00

00:10:23.340 them for poverty programs. They're the companies getting rich off them. Now listen to these 1.00

00:10:28.380 companies. Driving down Cleveland Avenue in less than 40 seconds, you come across endless home

00:10:35.140 health companies. Capital home health. Continental home health. Dynamic home health care. Ohio

00:10:42.700 senior home health care. Entire buildings throughout the city are filled entirely with

00:10:48.440 what appear to be identical businesses. The enormous complex pictured below, and there's

00:10:54.980 a picture in the article, is 6161 Bush Boulevard. Its lack of windows would be a problem for most

00:11:02.760 office buildings, but there is almost no one in this one. What's inside is 94 different companies

00:11:13.320 signed up to bill Medicaid, each with a tiny office, often marked with a sheet of paper

00:11:19.600 proclaiming some generic company name ending in Home Health LLC. And sometimes, this is particularly

00:11:26.960 funny, another piece of paper claiming the employees had just stepped out for a break. Mind

00:11:32.080 you they've all stepped out for a break and they never come back yeah this building alone

00:11:36.980 billed taxpayers 66 million dollars in the span of a few years the records show

00:11:45.300 pick the owner of a columbus home health care company at random and look them up on public

00:11:50.660 records you're likely to go down an endless rabbit hole years of unpaid taxes and debts

00:11:56.860 sometimes criminal records and an astonishing number of llcs created in other industries as 0.63

00:12:02.700 if the millions they make from medicaid are just a side gig we went down several of those rabbit

00:12:08.520 holes in the coming days you'll meet and i'm going to give you several of these examples

00:12:11.720 every one of these is going to piss you off these are real people or at least real fake people

00:12:17.540 uh in ohio number one a politician who founded an 11 million dollar home health care company

00:12:27.860 that he appeared to run part-time without even mentioning it in his political biography

00:12:35.160 who then funded his campaign he funded his campaign with donations from other home health

00:12:45.620 care owners. So this is a guy robbing $11 million. He's hiding it because obviously he's embarrassed

00:12:53.400 about it. And he's relying on other fraudsters to fund his political operation. This is the

00:13:00.220 shameless grift, the cycle of thievery that we're seeing over and over again. All right, here's

00:13:05.320 another one. Number two, a woman who reinvented her janitorial LLC. So she had a janitorial company 1.00

00:13:12.420 as a, quote, health provider. 0.97

00:13:15.600 Then she billed Medicaid. 0.99

00:13:16.700 What do you think she billed Medicaid 1.00

00:13:17.980 the very first month she went from being 0.95

00:13:20.720 a janitorial company to a health provider? 0.83

00:13:23.300 What do you think she billed Medicaid? 0.98

00:13:24.040 I mean, if you've got a good Somali mentor

00:13:25.660 and you go from the toilet cleaning job to then, 1.00

00:13:30.180 and sorry, I got the hiccups now,

00:13:31.520 but if you go from a toilet cleaning job

00:13:33.740 to then you go to home health care,

00:13:35.480 like, surely your first month and startup would be,

00:13:38.800 I don't know, five grand, eight grand maybe?

00:13:41.280 I know I'm wrong, right?

00:13:43.040 Nearly $100,000.

00:13:44.660 Yeah, $100,000 first month.

00:13:46.180 First month.

00:13:46.840 Like, that is one heck of a startup right there, folks.

00:13:50.160 All right, here's another one.

00:13:51.680 Number three.

00:13:52.580 By the way, you've got the hiccups.

00:13:53.920 We're going to send a home health care provider.

00:13:56.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:13:56.980 Can I make $100,000?

00:13:58.240 I'll take it. 1.00

00:13:58.760 That would be your children, and they're going to go punch you in the stomach 1.00

00:14:02.980 until you stop hiccuping. 0.99

00:14:04.920 I like this.

00:14:05.660 I like this plan.

00:14:06.460 As long as I get paid, it's fine.

00:14:07.820 I want to kick back here.

00:14:09.200 or at least golf sponsorships there you go number three a landlord who bought airplanes

00:14:17.480 after renting space to hundreds of home health care companies that build medicaid a quarter

00:14:24.220 of a billion dollars quarter of a billion 250 million number four a man who went to prison for

00:14:32.400 medicaid fraud but told the government he was too broke to pay restitution while his neighbors and

00:14:38.140 associates provide over a poverty program empire. And number five, an accountant who has lost his

00:14:47.740 license for stealing public funds, then opened a $7 million home health care company using the

00:14:55.300 address of a convicted money launderer's teenage son. Now, I'm going to say, Ben, if you're listening

00:15:02.080 to this, if you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention. I mean, Senator, this story

00:15:07.620 really brings us back to even a bigger point and that is this is probably nationwide like what

00:15:13.680 we're witnessing what we're saying this is going to end up being fraud at different levels probably

00:15:18.840 in every state of america because you're still dealing with fraud through the federal government

00:15:24.600 so you can set up shop anywhere because it's not like it's a lot of state oversight here

00:15:28.480 well listen this is brazen uh these are fraudsters who believe no politician will ever call them to

00:15:36.840 account. No government employee will ever examine the facts. No prosecutor will look at it. And

00:15:42.480 they're quite confident that the press will never examine it. These are not geniuses. Let me read a

00:15:47.560 little more from the story. These are not, in fact, here's the point I was just making. These are not

00:15:52.120 business geniuses, nor even people with any training or specialty in the health field.

00:15:58.000 They've often failed at a variety of businesses before suddenly becoming millionaires in home

00:16:03.300 healthcare. Sometimes a company will have a full roster of clients in its very first month,

00:16:08.500 making one wonder where the clients come from. The companies don't have websites or appear to

00:16:15.480 advertise. They can't stand out from their thousands of rivals based on price unless they

00:16:21.680 pay kickbacks because the government pays the same to everyone. Nearly every owner of a healthcare

00:16:29.820 company in Columbus appears to be foreign. Let me repeat that because that's a stunning statement. 0.90

00:16:36.600 Nearly every owner of a home health care company in Columbus appears to be foreign. 0.81

00:16:42.280 They live in a parallel society where every associate in public records also has a foreign

00:16:49.100 name and all their business transactions are conducted with other foreigners. When we asked

00:16:55.920 one what home health care companies did one man threatened journalists who cares do you guys pay 0.72

00:17:04.220 my bills i'm going to tell everybody you guys are racists the government cannot meaningfully monitor

00:17:11.900 all the people it writes million dollar checks to in columbus they all share combinations of 0.75

00:17:17.460 just a few names like ahmed muhammad and muhammad ahmed how is this not satire by the way i'm

00:17:26.860 reading actual news documents reviewed by the daily wire show individuals will spell their own

00:17:33.500 name multiple different ways within a single document let me repeat that again someone spells

00:17:41.740 the name bean ferguson yeah ban fergie ferguson like like how many how do you misspell your name

00:17:51.300 multiple times in a document and backwards sometimes it was ben ferguson it was ferguson

00:17:55.940 ben like it was ted cruz and then cruz ted you know penelope cruz tom cruz cruise control like

00:18:04.480 like every variant you can come with and many of them list their birthdays as january 1st because

00:18:11.360 their birthdays are unknown. The business model is simple. A 40-year-old Somali immigrant gets

00:18:18.180 paid for spending time with, and maybe cooking for, his own 65-year-old mother. The middleman 0.99

00:18:25.040 is one of thousands of home health firms that have the NPI number necessary to bill Medicaid.

00:18:31.880 The 40-year-old becomes a, quote, employee of that company, but has no clients other than

00:18:40.100 his mother. There is no way to verify whether he actually provided the, quote, services

00:18:46.160 unless his own mother is willing to testify against him. This poverty program is different

00:18:53.680 from things like food stamps because it has no monetary cap and its extent is decided not by

00:18:59.780 politicians but by any doctor willing to sign a form saying you could use some help around the

00:19:05.400 House. It only takes one doctor who will say yes to churn out enough forms to bankrupt a state.

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00:20:45.920 To bankrupt a state, let's be clear about what they're saying.

00:20:50.380 this is why they're the most unhealthy city in america because of this fraud this is why all

00:20:55.980 your tax dollars are going there and all it takes a doctor with apparently no checks and balances

00:21:00.720 but it's like doctor shopping like we know doctors that do this they abuse their power

00:21:06.000 they write scripts for example there's one arrest arrested in houston this week that was writing

00:21:10.000 massive amounts of opioid scripts why because he's getting massive paydays from patients

00:21:15.040 You could have the same exact thing happening there.

00:21:18.580 For years, efforts to rein in waste have nibbled around the edges,

00:21:22.800 shaving off a million here and a million there.

00:21:25.720 While skeptics and liberals argued that the cost-cutting exercise was pointless

00:21:30.480 because the lion's share of federal spending was locked up in, quote,

00:21:34.720 non-discretionary spending like health care.

00:21:38.240 The implication was that there was no waste in that category

00:21:41.740 and nothing that could be done about it.

00:21:43.640 even as the nation careened towards insolvency. That premise couldn't be more wrong.

00:21:51.440 This blatant waste happened within miles of the Ohio State Capitol, where Governor Mike DeWine,

00:21:58.820 a Republican, and his appointees run the state. In an era of artificial intelligence,

00:22:05.040 the Medicaid system has seemed disinterested in even the most obvious red flags. Perhaps that's

00:22:11.820 because it's largely run by states, but with half or more of the bill being footed by the federal

00:22:17.900 taxpayers. The Trump administration is now turning its sights to Medicaid fraud with a task force led

00:22:23.840 by the Federal Trade Commission Chairman Andrew Ferguson and Vice President J.D. Vance. They may

00:22:29.260 want to start with Vance's home state. I gotta say, look, this is stunning and it is a pattern.

00:22:36.460 it's not confined to Minnesota. It's not confined to Ohio. This is a pattern of theft across the

00:22:45.040 country, and we need to have vigorous efforts. I want to commend the Trump administration. The

00:22:50.020 Department of Justice is going after this fraud. HHS is going after this fraud. We're beginning

00:22:54.980 to see accountability, and I want to thank the Daily Wire for doing some reporting. Let me ask,

00:23:00.080 where the hell is cnn abc nbc cbs is doing a little bit but washington post new york times

00:23:08.900 are are there actual reporters the hardcore investigative journalists are not doing any

00:23:14.340 of this journalism this is like the the conservative advocates out there that are

00:23:19.460 doing this job the nick shirley's are doing this job no one in the mainstream media is breaking

00:23:25.080 this story look look we covered previously on this this podcast how cnn when the story broke

00:23:31.200 in minnesota they decided to check it so they called these quote child care agencies and they

00:23:36.280 said hi this is cnn calling are you engaged in fraud and they said oh no and they said oh okay

00:23:41.380 thank you and hung up that's what they called reporting yeah um the last i checked if you call

00:23:48.040 criminals and ask them if they're committing crimes most of them are going to tell you no

00:23:51.840 and by the way cnn knows that the reporters know that the producer knows that the executive

00:24:00.600 producer knows that everyone up and down the line knows that they know how to actually investigate

00:24:07.400 a story it's just that the media doesn't care about this story i commend the daily wire we're

00:24:12.640 going to keep covering this and i think this is just the tip of the iceberg on what's happening

00:24:16.960 yeah i agree and it's going to be other types of fraud that we talked about at the beginning of

00:24:21.040 show we're going to keep covering it ends these stories break we will have it here i hope you'll

00:24:25.100 take this show and share it but by the way because it's so important that we get it out there but by

00:24:30.240 the way ben i will tell you you know my dad he's 87 years old my dad's kind of a bad badass what

00:24:35.380 what my father says he says in 87 years he's never hiccuped more than once that i see that's that's

00:24:41.940 fake news i'm just telling you my father look when i was in high school if i would get a 99 on a test

00:24:47.680 my dad would say why didn't you get 100 and he would say i i'm not meaning to be mean but my

00:24:52.980 father would say to me if you hiccup twice it's a sign of weakness because if you hiccup once you

00:24:57.660 just need to decide don't do it again don't do it again yeah i'm working on that i'm pretty sure

00:25:03.440 it's the medication that says a side effect is hiccup that's what i looked at so i'm doing i'm

00:25:08.320 doing the best i can here sir i'm doing the best i can i'll confess i i've failed my father's

00:25:14.140 standard of never hiccup more than once but if i'm hiccuping usually if i take a glass of water

00:25:18.340 and just drink the whole thing uninterrupted it goes away so we paused the show earlier people

00:25:24.340 don't know this because we were trying to get rid of the hiccups we tried everything and during the

00:25:28.760 break so we just it is what it is at this point you can always go back and give me a hard time

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00:27:13.600 All right, Senator, let's move to Tucker Carlson.

00:27:15.760 He did an interview and it couldn't have gone worse for him with the New York Times.

00:27:19.200 I've said this before.

00:27:21.160 Some disagree with me.

00:27:22.260 I think the demise of Tucker Carlson is happening in real time.

00:27:25.940 I think his audience is disappearing very quickly.

00:27:28.920 I think these types of interviews do incredible damage to his integrity, his character.

00:27:34.900 And these interviews just show how unhinged he is, which we've been talking about for quite some time.

00:27:39.860 He's also still obsessed with you and had something very interesting to say about you in this New York Times interview as well.

00:27:47.540 Who do you think is more morally repulsive, Ted Cruz or Nick Fuentes?

00:27:52.200 Who do you think is more morally repulsive?

00:27:53.580 Ted Cruz.

00:27:55.140 Ted Cruz is a sitting U.S. senator who has called for the killing of people who did nothing wrong.

00:28:03.260 Whole populations who advocated for this war.

00:28:06.580 Nick Fuentes is like a kid. He's like 26 or 70.

00:28:09.460 He has no power except his words.

00:28:12.740 Here you have a public official who we pay, who has actual power, who's voting for things, who's making policy decisions.

00:28:20.160 and those decisions would include in fact they are focused on the murder of people who did nothing

00:28:24.920 wrong and yet no one thinks it's a big deal what well this is totally fine i mean if there's tape

00:28:30.380 of nick fuentes saying we should kill people because we hate their parents or it's okay to 0.98

00:28:35.500 kill children i would love to see the tape because that's disgusting and that's basically the entire 0.99

00:28:40.940 u.s senate does every single day and no one notices nick fuentes said something naughty that 0.99

00:28:45.280 i disagreed with he made fun of things that i don't think i would never make fun of he's a white 0.93

00:28:49.200 nationalist was denied the holocaust and what i will say okay but is that worse than killing kids

00:28:54.600 from my from my understanding of my own you know i was just in germany recently um and you know it

00:29:03.420 was such a good reminder that the holocaust didn't start with the gassing of jews it started with the

00:29:09.520 dehumanization of jews it was language that was used and again that is what it concerns people

00:29:16.140 I agree more. And that's why when you have a U.S. senator, a member of Congress, a U.S. ambassador waving away civilian deaths as if they don't matter, that's the language of genocide which results, and this is the lesson of the Holocaust, in genocide itself. And it has. 0.99

00:29:32.000 So the lesson for me, really, watching all of this, is that this can happen in civilized countries. In all human beings, there is the capacity to ignore the evil right in front of you.

00:29:45.500 And I'm my point is it's happening right now. And my job, they said I have one. I don't really have a job, but I just want to remind people that we're all capable of that, including me, and that we're watching it right now. And if you think that Nick Fuentes is a greater threat to other human beings than Ted Cruz, I would love to know how I can imagine people hearing this and thinking you are soft peddling Nick Fuentes. You are apologizing.

00:30:12.240 I'm hardly soft-pedaling Nick Fuentes.

00:30:13.800 I'm trying to awaken people to killing of innocents in our midst,

00:30:18.420 which we are not only encouraged to ignore,

00:30:21.100 but really told to ignore on pain of being denounced.

00:30:25.060 And I'm just saying, no, I'm not doing that.

00:30:28.420 Senator Nick Fuentes is a Holocaust denier.

00:30:32.120 Yeah, but that doesn't even touch it.

00:30:34.740 Let's start with the fact that this loon,

00:30:38.140 I think he brought me up eight or nine times in that interview. 0.95

00:30:41.080 apparently I am living completely rent-free in his brain and every word he's saying is a brazen lie

00:30:47.580 I am 55 years old never once have I called for the murder of innocence never once have I called

00:30:52.700 for the murder of children by the way he claims that I do that he claims that the entire U.S.

00:30:57.400 Senate does that and and it's just it it's at a point where it's a pathological lie there's no

00:31:03.660 basis in fact there's no evidence he just says it he just asserts it and he knows he's lying he

00:31:09.620 doesn't care he's lying by the way his defense of nick fuentes is well nick fuentes said something

00:31:14.840 naughty naughty okay here's what nick fuentes said he said hitler was right hitler was very

00:31:19.800 very cool i agree with hitler on tucker's show nick fuentes said his mission in life is to defeat 0.54

00:31:25.200 global jewry that's not something naughty that is a rabid nazi bigot he also said nick fuentes

00:31:33.860 also said that he celebrates Stalin's birthday every year. Tucker nodded approvingly. And by

00:31:40.740 the way, Tucker, there's a reason why Tucker is celebrating Nick Fuentes. Tucker has gone to the

00:31:46.280 point now of embracing Nazis. It's not just Nick Fuentes, who's an open Nazi. Tucker had one

00:31:52.300 had one lunatic professor on his show who said that Winston Churchill was the villain of World

00:31:58.300 War II. He had another lunatic professor on his show who said there's a good argument the Americans 0.96

00:32:02.520 should have supported the Nazis in World War II. No, there's not. But Tucker is on a mission,

00:32:08.920 and I believe at this point, I cannot prove it, but I believe Tucker is being compensated,

00:32:13.440 is being paid by Qatar or other foreign nations. He is apologizing for Islamists. He is apologizing 0.90

00:32:18.900 for Sharia. He is apologizing for America haters. He is attacking Trump every day. He is attacking

00:32:24.640 Israel. He's attacking Jews. He knows he's lying about me, but his mission is also to normalize 1.00

00:32:31.000 Nazis. By the way, one of the things he said this week is Graham Plattner, the lunatic Democrat 0.97

00:32:37.020 nominee or likely nominee, almost inevitable nominee in Maine for Senate, who is a self-described

00:32:43.400 communist. Graham Plattner says, I am a communist. And who has not just a Nazi tattoo on his chest,

00:32:49.740 but a Totenkampff, which is the tattoo of the SS in the death chambers of the concentration camps.

00:32:56.140 You know what Tucker Carlson said? Oh, I want to interview Graham Plattner. I'm sure they do.

00:33:00.520 Maybe they have matching Nazi tattoos.

00:33:02.680 I don't know what tattoos Tucker Carlson said.

00:33:04.800 As Tucker would say, I'm just asking questions.

00:33:07.080 But apparently, if you're a Nazi, if you say Sig Heil, Tucker wants to elevate you.

00:33:14.400 And I got to say.

00:33:15.840 And not just elevate you, normalize you.

00:33:18.980 Make it go away.

00:33:21.020 And listen, by the way, when you lie about people, you notice his whole diatribe about me?

00:33:27.240 He provided no evidence.

00:33:28.740 What I just listed about Tucker, I can give you the episodes where he said every one of those

00:33:33.680 things. Those are objective facts. So Tucker is now a professional liar who lives without facts,

00:33:40.840 and I want you to listen to this exchange, and if you're watching on YouTube, it's even better if

00:33:44.660 you watch it, because it's not just me. Tucker has decided he hates America, he hates Donald Trump,

00:33:50.140 he hates Jews, he hates capitalism. He had this other lunatic on his show who said that Jesus 1.00

00:33:55.760 hated capitalism and Jesus was a socialist uh he he is attacked uh he he is all right 0.79

00:34:04.520 I want you to listen to him being confronted over his argument that Donald Trump is the

00:34:10.840 antichrist this is what Tucker has argued and when he's confronted with his own words

00:34:15.540 he just flat out lies listen what I was saying which is you cannot mock other people's gods

00:34:23.780 and put yourself in their place period that is a deal killer for me that's worse than the war

00:34:29.040 with iran in my opinion yeah but i ask because you know you've been talking on your show about

00:34:33.580 whether trump is the antichrist i have not said that on your show the day after easter you noted

00:34:39.100 he did not put his hand on the bible during his swearing ceremony as president you said and i'm

00:34:44.200 quoting maybe he didn't put his hand on the bible because he affirmatively rejects what's inside

00:34:48.180 that book and then on a recent show you went further saying here's a leader who's mocking

00:34:52.680 the gods of his ancestors mocking the god of gods and exalting himself above them could this be the

00:34:57.980 antichrist i actually did not say could this be the antichrist here's a leader who's mocking the

00:35:04.660 gods of his ancestors mocking the god of gods and exalting himself above them could this be

00:35:12.240 the antichrist well who knows um i don't know where that comes from but i know that those words

00:35:18.780 never left my lips because

00:35:20.220 I'm not sure I fully understand what the Antichrist

00:35:22.860 is if there's just one

00:35:24.280 I actually tried to understand it

00:35:26.420 I may have said some are asking

00:35:28.960 that I'm not weighing in on

00:35:30.920 that because I don't understand it

00:35:32.420 just to be totally clear

00:35:33.600 Senator he said that like 15

00:35:36.900 days ago when the interview took place

00:35:38.540 by the way he says I may

00:35:40.940 have said some are asking he didn't

00:35:42.880 say that she played what he said

00:35:44.760 she played verbatim what he said

00:35:46.640 he

00:35:48.180 He asked very directly, is Donald J. Trump the Antichrist? Look, I'm willing to answer that. No, I don't believe President Trump is the Antichrist. But Tucker doesn't live in the world of facts. He doesn't live where any words he says matter. And the words he's saying, so there's good news and bad news.

00:36:08.420 The bad news is the words he's saying are having really serious negative consequences.

00:36:13.360 He is pushing anti-Semitism.

00:36:15.860 He's pushing Jew hate every day, like every week his show focuses on how the Jews are 0.97

00:36:21.180 responsible for everything wrong in the world. 0.97

00:36:23.780 But he's also pushing America hate.

00:36:25.700 He's pushing how America is terrible.

00:36:27.140 He's pushing Trump hate.

00:36:28.480 He has said he regrets supporting Trump.

00:36:30.340 He wished Trump had lost.

00:36:31.680 I mean, that's.

00:36:32.360 Yeah, he said it to his brother.

00:36:33.460 It was like this sad moment where they're like, we are going to be held accountable for helping this man win the White House.

00:36:40.280 It was their sin of their lives.

00:36:43.060 So the good news is Tucker is becoming more and more irrelevant each and every day.

00:36:47.700 He's really talented.

00:36:48.680 He's a charming, charismatic guy.

00:36:50.920 Even when he's lying to you, he's like Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars going, these are not the drones you're looking for.

00:36:56.980 He just flat out lies.

00:36:59.600 But he's charming and good at it.

00:37:01.220 but the good news is he is becoming so irrelevant right now. And listen, I hope he has a really

00:37:08.480 nice home in Qatar. By the way, you may not know this, but he bragged that he has bought a home

00:37:13.860 in Qatar. He also has repeatedly praised the Ayatollah, the president of Iran. He's praised

00:37:19.260 Maduro. He's praised Mandami. Like, if you're a Hitler, if you're a Hitler lover, if you're a

00:37:26.160 communist, if you're a leftist, if you are an America hater, if you're an Islamist, if you're

00:37:33.460 an Ayatollah, Tucker Carlson loves you. If you're actually an American who believes in free

00:37:39.240 enterprise, who believes in America, who believes in America first, Tucker hates your guts and his 0.90

00:37:43.860 mission is to attack you. And I think that's why more and more people are moving away from at this

00:37:49.720 point, it's so disconnected from reality that it's just kind of sad. Yeah, it really is. Don't

00:37:57.000 forget, we do this show Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Hit that subscribe or auto-download button

00:38:01.840 wherever you get your podcasts. Hopefully, I won't have the hiccups in the next episode.

00:38:06.980 The Senator and I will see you back here on Friday morning.

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