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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- February 21, 2025
Attorney General Pam Bondi-Exclusive One-on-One LIVE Interview at CPAC
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Welcome, it is Verdict with Ted Cruz,
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live from CPAC 2025.
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Senator, it's, uh...
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I like this being our annual time
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to hang out with fun people.
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Well, it is great to be back with CPAC,
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and I gotta say, CPAC, this year,
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there is energy, there is excitement.
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Yeah.
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It turns out winning doesn't suck.
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It does not.
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And we have a guest.
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We have the Attorney General of the United States,
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Pam Bondi.
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So these guys never invite me to be on their podcast.
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They finally did,
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and I get to do it in front of all of you.
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So this is awesome.
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Well, Pam, I will tell you that there is some good karma
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to being on this podcast
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at CPAC was someone named J.D. Vance,
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and he's done all right for himself.
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He's a great man.
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So, welcome.
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Thank you.
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You have been Attorney General 15 days.
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It feels like 15 years.
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I believe you.
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And by the way, you just got some help.
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An hour ago, the Senate just finished confirming.
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Yes!
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Isn't that great?
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Been on the phone with him nonstop.
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I talked to him on the ride over here.
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He is going to do fantastic.
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Sure is.
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All right, let's start.
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15 days.
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You've come into what I think
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is the single most important cabinet position
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in this administration.
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Because we went through four years
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of Biden weaponizing the Department of Justice,
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using it to attack his enemies,
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and to support his friends.
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So, let me ask you,
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you come into DOJ,
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you've got a mission.
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You've got a mission
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to restore integrity to the department,
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to end the weaponization
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and politicization.
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How do you do that?
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How do you get that done?
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You know, the volume, Senator,
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what concerned me the most,
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it's the volume
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of how bad it was.
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And it still is.
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We're working on it.
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It's day by day by day.
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But we've got a team of great people.
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And on day one,
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I issued 14 executive orders.
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And number one is the weaponization ends.
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And it ends now.
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And that's what we did.
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Let me ask you something.
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In the 15 days you've been there,
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how many DOJ employees
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have said something to the effect of,
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thank God?
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A lot of them.
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I believe you.
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Look, I spent four years
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hearing from AUSAs,
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assistant U.S. attorneys,
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hearing from FBI agents,
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hearing from men and women
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who believe in the rule of law
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and were horrified
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at the politicization
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of the FBI and the DOJ.
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And so I know for a lot
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of good, honorable men
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and women who've devoted
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their careers
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to defending the Constitution,
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there's a lot of gratitude
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that they can get back
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to doing their job.
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Their core function.
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And that's thanks to Donald J. Trump
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getting back in office.
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And he gave us a clear directive.
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Make America safe.
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And that's what we're going to do.
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You know, to start with
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the law enforcement agencies
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talking about cash,
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these men and women
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didn't go to Quantico.
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They're not risking their lives
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to waste their time
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on all this politicization
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and raiding Mar-a-Lago.
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Really?
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Stopping.
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All of that is stopping.
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And we are returning them
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to their core function,
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fighting violent crime.
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And that's what the great majority
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of men and women
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in law enforcement,
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DEA, ATF, U.S. Marshals, FBI,
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as well as the incredible legal team
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at the Justice Department,
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that's what they want to do.
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So let's talk about
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one of the most lawless aspects
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of the last four years,
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which was the open borders
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that we saw
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and the 12 million
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illegal immigrants
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that have come into this country.
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You've had just two weeks,
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but you've hit the ground running
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going after the criminals,
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going after the murderers,
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going after the rapists,
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going after the child molesters,
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going after the Venezuelan gang members.
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Tell us, number one,
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what you're doing
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as Attorney General
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that is making a real difference,
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that is already making America safer.
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And number two,
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I understand you have
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some breaking news
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concerning my home state of Texas,
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which I'm particularly proud to hear.
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I do, I do.
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And the press really haven't even out yet.
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Joint Task Force Alpha
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that we elevated
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once we came in office,
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it's with the Department of Justice
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and the FBI.
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And we work hand-in-hand
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with Homeland Security.
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Kristi and Ome is awesome.
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We all work so well together.
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Joint Task Force Alpha
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just made a huge arrest
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in Juarez, Mexico.
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They were headed to Texas,
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to El Paso.
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Human smuggling.
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Yeah, huge.
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That's why we do what we do every day.
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That's why these agents risk their lives
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every single day.
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It's human smuggling
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and a lot of children,
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a lot of children, they're saying,
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are safer because of this.
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Let me ask you a question.
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President Trump,
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and this has made headlines
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on what you were just talking about,
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we've designated these cartels
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as terrorist organizations.
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What does that allow you
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to do in your job?
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And Kash Patel now
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is the head of the FBI.
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What is that going to give you
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the ability to do
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and to go after them?
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Well, Stephen Miller
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is doing a great job
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head of,
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as we are, right?
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Leading this effort
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with all of us.
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Mike Waltz at DOD.
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We all work so,
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Keith Huxley,
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we all work so well together.
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And it gives us the ability,
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it gives,
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they are a terrorist group.
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And it gives us the ability
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to go after them
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more ability
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anywhere in the world
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and treat them
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as terrorists.
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They are terrorists.
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If you're bringing fentanyl
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into this country
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and killing our kids,
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you're a terrorist.
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And we're coming after you.
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300 a day
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is the average
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that are dying
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in this country right now.
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When you took this job
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and you hear that number
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and you saw the inaction
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from the last administration,
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how angry did that make you?
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So angry.
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You know,
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I was state AG
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before I became
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United States Attorney General.
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And fentanyl
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was really just coming
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on the market.
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And now,
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with this horrible
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open border policy,
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just flowing,
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flowing across our borders
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and killing kids,
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killing adults
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every single day.
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And it's criminal
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that no one was doing
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anything to stop it.
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I can't comprehend
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how any administration,
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progressive nor conservative,
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how any administration
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could tolerate that
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and let that happen.
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And it ended day one
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with Donald Trump
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when he shut that border.
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I was at the border
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back in September.
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I went with
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Laura Trump
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and Morgan Ortegas.
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Yep.
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And we were in
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Yuma, Arizona.
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And I saw firsthand,
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there is nothing
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humanitarian
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that was happening
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at that border.
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Nothing.
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Nothing.
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They have a rape tree
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where they're raping women
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as they're coming
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into this country.
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I saw firsthand
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piles and piles
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of passports
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just thrown
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from every country
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you can imagine
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because the Biden
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administration
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was letting you walk
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right in the country.
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If you didn't have
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a passport,
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they said they saw
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Asian-Chinese individuals
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saying,
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oh, we're from Cuba.
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So they wrote down
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they're from Cuba
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and had to let them
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legally walk right in
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under that administration.
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But the drugs,
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the trafficking,
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I learned a new term,
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disposable child.
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The customs,
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the border,
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I mean,
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the Border Patrol agents
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told me
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that they saw
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a little boy
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and they kept recognizing
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the same little boy
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over and over
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and over coming in.
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Because if you came
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into our country
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as a family unit,
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they just let you
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walk right in.
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This little child
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was being trafficked.
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Yes.
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Now how they were
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getting him back to Mexico
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is beyond me.
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But they were bringing him
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time and time again.
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He wasn't their family.
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So who knows
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what happened
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to his parents?
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Well, and I will say
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a number of people
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in the room gasped
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at a term you use,
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which unfortunately
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is a real term,
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rape tree.
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Yeah.
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And it's something
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that we're seeing,
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we've been seeing
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for the last four years
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in Texas.
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We've seen it in Arizona
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that the cartels
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will go and violently
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rape women.
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They'll violently rape
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teenage girls,
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young girls.
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And then they will hang
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their underwear
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in the tree.
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And you'll find
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a tree down
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on the southern border
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with 10,
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20 pairs of underwear
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as they're mocking
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law enforcement
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saying we can do
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whatever we want.
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And for four years
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the Biden Justice Department,
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they just turned
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a blind eye
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and they facilitated it.
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You know,
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you talked about the kids.
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So they had a policy.
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If you arrive with a kid,
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it's essentially
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a get out of jail
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free card.
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And so you started
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seeing a phenomenon
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that we've never seen
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in immigration before
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which is single young men
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showing up
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with little kids.
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Now that's not
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a normal pattern
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of migration
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but we started seeing
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military age men
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showing up
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with little boys
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and little girls,
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many of whom
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are physically
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and sexually assaulted
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in transit
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and the same kid
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the cartels
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would recycle
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over and over
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and over again
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to bring in gang members,
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to bring in criminals.
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Now,
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let me ask this.
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What is most effective
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stopping
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the invasion
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at the southern border?
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The border,
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closing our borders
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which is what we've done.
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Donald Trump
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has closed our border
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but now,
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of course,
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we all know
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we have so many
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of these illegal aliens
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fighting age men
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ages 18 to 35
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in our country.
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Yep.
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Walking around our country
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and President Trump
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has been a strong
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directive on that.
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How concerned
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are you right now
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about the 12 million
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illegal aliens
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who came in
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under Joe Biden
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and about the risk
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of terrorism
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of Hamas,
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of Hezbollah,
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Palestinian Islamic Jihad,
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the risk of terrorism
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targeting Americans
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across this country?
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It's a huge risk
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and we all know
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how bad it is now
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and that's what
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Donald Trump
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is committed to do
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is to take
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these people
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out of our country
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to prosecute them
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to deport them
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to get them
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off our streets
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and that's what
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all of these
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law enforcement agencies
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are doing.
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You know,
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Lake and Riley,
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of course,
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that beautiful young woman
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University of Georgia,
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Lake and Riley
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is probably
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the most prominent name
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but look how many
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Lake and Riley's
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are out there.
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One victim
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is too many.
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Jocelyn Nungary,
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Rachel Morin.
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Right.
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I mean,
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the numbers
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just every day
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and I got to say,
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so already in the
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first two weeks,
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you've sued New York,
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you've sued Chicago.
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You can clap for that.
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These sanctuary cities
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that are fighting
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and I've got to say,
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Massachusetts
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in particular,
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actually in our last podcast
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we talked about this,
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how Massachusetts
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continues to this day
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to have violent
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child rapist
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illegal immigrants
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who they release
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on the streets
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and they refuse
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to notify ICE,
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they refuse,
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these are illegal immigrants
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who could be deported
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immediately
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and the Massachusetts
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officials
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take criminals
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who violently
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rape little kids.
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Let me ask you,
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what is your message
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to
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a mayor,
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to a local official
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who wants to defy
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federal immigration law?
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Well,
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our message is very clear.
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I sued Illinois first,
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Chicago,
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first day,
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first day
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and I gave a very
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strong warning.
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If you don't comply
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with the law,
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you're next
00:12:12.920
and guess who didn't listen?
00:12:14.180
New York.
00:12:15.680
Kathy Hochul got sued.
00:12:17.380
They all got sued
00:12:18.320
in New York
00:12:18.940
and if you don't
00:12:20.340
follow the law,
00:12:21.500
you're going to be next
00:12:22.840
because we are going
00:12:24.280
to get violent criminals
00:12:25.480
off our streets
00:12:26.040
and you know,
00:12:26.800
Senator,
00:12:27.160
it's more than that.
00:12:28.120
They're endangering
00:12:29.360
the lives
00:12:30.340
of our great men
00:12:31.140
and women
00:12:31.400
in law enforcement.
00:12:32.600
That's what people
00:12:33.340
don't understand.
00:12:34.220
When you're hiding
00:12:35.120
illegal aliens
00:12:36.060
from law enforcement,
00:12:37.160
you're endangering
00:12:38.220
their lives.
00:12:39.720
It's going to stop.
00:12:41.540
So let me ask you,
00:12:42.500
two weeks into it,
00:12:43.880
you've been at DOJ,
00:12:46.080
what's your assessment?
00:12:47.940
Is it as bad
00:12:48.740
as you thought
00:12:49.280
it would be?
00:12:50.620
Is it better?
00:12:52.020
Is it worse?
00:12:52.920
It's worse.
00:12:53.480
You're inherited chaos.
00:12:57.660
Worse meaning,
00:12:59.220
yeah,
00:12:59.580
that department
00:13:00.620
had completely lost
00:13:02.680
its mission
00:13:03.960
of fighting violent crime.
00:13:06.420
Look what they did
00:13:07.100
to President Trump.
00:13:07.920
Look at the weaponization
00:13:08.880
and weaponization ended.
00:13:11.540
And the deep state
00:13:13.240
is very real.
00:13:14.300
I think all of you
00:13:14.960
in this room
00:13:15.860
know that.
00:13:16.940
It's very real.
00:13:18.500
and people trying
00:13:19.780
to undermine
00:13:21.160
everything you're doing.
00:13:22.960
You know,
00:13:23.140
three weeks into it,
00:13:24.160
I went in one department
00:13:25.100
and found huge
00:13:27.080
20 by 20 glossies
00:13:28.700
of Joe Biden,
00:13:29.660
Merrick Garland,
00:13:30.320
and Kamala Harris
00:13:31.040
still hanging up
00:13:31.820
in my office.
00:13:33.620
They're gone.
00:13:34.760
They're gone.
00:13:36.240
They're gone.
00:13:37.380
And guess,
00:13:38.260
guess what's replacing it?
00:13:40.380
A very handsome photo
00:13:42.420
of a man Donald Trump.
00:13:45.320
Not the one in the hallway,
00:13:46.860
right?
00:13:47.100
That picture?
00:13:48.600
That one.
00:13:49.160
That one, okay.
00:13:49.840
I like that one.
00:13:50.500
That one's out there.
00:13:50.740
That one's in replacing.
00:13:52.720
But I make light of that,
00:13:54.640
but that's what's happening.
00:13:56.540
You know,
00:13:56.740
he had been in office
00:13:57.440
three weeks
00:13:58.080
and the deep state
00:13:59.580
still had those pictures
00:14:00.980
hanging.
00:14:01.480
And to me,
00:14:02.020
that's defiant.
00:14:02.800
It's insubordination.
00:14:04.080
Not going to happen.
00:14:05.700
But, you know,
00:14:06.400
what we said,
00:14:07.160
most people,
00:14:08.220
the majority of the people
00:14:09.480
are great people
00:14:10.580
who went to law school,
00:14:12.680
became prosecutors,
00:14:13.780
became law enforcement agents
00:14:14.940
to fight crime.
00:14:15.920
You've spent your professional life
00:14:17.700
as a prosecutor.
00:14:18.700
Career.
00:14:19.200
How important
00:14:19.980
is it to you
00:14:21.760
to go after bad guys
00:14:23.180
and to get bad guys
00:14:24.060
off the street
00:14:24.620
and keep people safe?
00:14:25.800
It means everything.
00:14:26.980
And the drug epidemic,
00:14:28.640
you know,
00:14:28.760
the fentanyl
00:14:29.340
just flowing into our country now,
00:14:31.600
the terrorists,
00:14:32.500
the gangs,
00:14:33.340
TDA,
00:14:33.980
Trans-Diagua,
00:14:35.460
MS-13,
00:14:38.060
all of the gangs
00:14:38.940
who are now
00:14:39.380
terrorist organizations,
00:14:40.640
we've got to stop them.
00:14:42.600
And that's why we do
00:14:44.580
what we do.
00:14:45.920
And we all have to work together.
00:14:48.140
And working with Homeland Security
00:14:49.320
has been great, too.
00:14:50.200
So one of the most shocking statistics
00:14:52.080
from the prior administration
00:14:53.260
is the number 300,000.
00:14:56.420
300,000 children
00:14:58.320
that the prior administration
00:15:00.400
had in custody
00:15:01.280
and that they lost.
00:15:02.580
That they do not know
00:15:03.500
where they are.
00:15:04.460
We know that many of those children
00:15:06.060
are being abused right now.
00:15:07.480
Tell me about the efforts
00:15:08.780
you and Homeland Security
00:15:10.280
and the Trump administration,
00:15:11.900
the efforts you are doing
00:15:12.920
to find those children
00:15:14.160
and to get them
00:15:15.040
out of harm's way.
00:15:16.100
That's top priority.
00:15:17.580
And that's Donald Trump's
00:15:18.660
top priority
00:15:19.540
to find these victims
00:15:21.360
and to save them.
00:15:22.920
And that's what I don't,
00:15:24.100
I truly can't comprehend
00:15:25.680
how any administration
00:15:27.560
would let that happen
00:15:29.760
and not care.
00:15:31.580
And that's what
00:15:32.360
we're all fighting for.
00:15:33.640
And, you know,
00:15:34.120
you say,
00:15:34.580
when you take a job
00:15:35.820
with this incredible volume,
00:15:37.480
you think,
00:15:38.380
how do you do it?
00:15:39.920
How do you focus every day?
00:15:42.800
And you do it by saying,
00:15:44.080
if I can save one life,
00:15:45.680
it's worth it.
00:15:46.740
Well, it's a lot more than one.
00:15:48.280
But it compounds.
00:15:49.320
That's how you start off.
00:15:50.680
One life.
00:15:51.280
And it is thousands
00:15:52.400
and ultimately more.
00:15:55.020
So I want to say something
00:15:56.220
to the folks here at CPAC,
00:15:58.700
which is,
00:15:59.680
as many of y'all know,
00:16:01.100
Ben and I do this podcast,
00:16:02.580
Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:16:03.580
We do it three days a week.
00:16:04.600
We do it Monday,
00:16:05.200
Wednesday, and Friday.
00:16:06.840
We've got roughly
00:16:07.820
a million unique listeners
00:16:09.220
all over the country.
00:16:10.700
And we do this
00:16:12.200
to go around
00:16:13.080
the corporate media,
00:16:14.440
to go directly
00:16:15.640
to the American people
00:16:16.920
and to bring the truth
00:16:19.300
and bring the facts.
00:16:20.120
So I want to ask
00:16:20.740
everyone here,
00:16:22.100
many of y'all already
00:16:23.240
subscribe to the pod,
00:16:24.300
but I want to ask
00:16:24.820
everyone here
00:16:25.300
to pull out
00:16:25.720
your cell phone right now.
00:16:27.820
Pull out your cell phone
00:16:28.960
and text the word
00:16:31.820
VERDICT,
00:16:32.960
V-E-R-D-I-C-T,
00:16:35.500
text the word VERDICT
00:16:37.300
to 24005.
00:16:41.300
Again, 24005.
00:16:44.560
When you text VERDICT
00:16:46.200
to 24005,
00:16:47.800
what you'll get back
00:16:48.700
is a link,
00:16:50.600
a link to subscribe
00:16:51.900
to the podcast.
00:16:53.680
Now, if you're under 40,
00:16:54.840
you know what I'm talking about.
00:16:55.820
And if you're not,
00:16:58.380
ask your kids
00:16:59.140
or ask your grandkids.
00:17:00.240
Although I'll say,
00:17:00.840
if you're at CPAC,
00:17:01.880
you're pretty hip and connected.
00:17:03.100
So you may know as well
00:17:04.360
if you're here at CPAC.
00:17:06.300
But every Monday Wednesday...
00:17:06.820
And subscribe doesn't mean
00:17:07.860
it costs you money
00:17:08.500
to quote your dad.
00:17:09.340
Oh, my father points out
00:17:11.160
that he, you know,
00:17:11.620
my dad is 85
00:17:12.480
and he said when he hears subscribe,
00:17:14.100
he thinks it's a magazine subscription.
00:17:15.860
There's no charge.
00:17:17.340
It just magically appears
00:17:18.860
in your phone
00:17:19.640
early in the morning
00:17:20.540
on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
00:17:22.240
And we bring in guests
00:17:23.740
like the Attorney General
00:17:24.720
of the United States
00:17:25.660
and we focus on
00:17:27.380
what is happening,
00:17:28.920
the victories
00:17:29.580
that President Trump
00:17:30.600
is winning,
00:17:31.460
and the news
00:17:32.860
that the corporate media
00:17:33.960
won't cover.
00:17:34.840
Yeah.
00:17:35.660
I want to ask you...
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I want to ask you a question.
00:18:11.940
It's one that I've been
00:18:12.840
dying to ask you,
00:18:13.860
and it deals with
00:18:14.940
all of the pardons
00:18:16.180
that were given out
00:18:17.020
from Joe Biden
00:18:18.460
at the end.
00:18:19.800
There were a lot
00:18:20.640
that went to his family.
00:18:22.340
It is what it is.
00:18:23.620
There's one person
00:18:24.400
he did not pardon.
00:18:25.560
That would be himself.
00:18:27.840
There are a lot of people
00:18:28.600
who think there should be
00:18:29.220
accountability.
00:18:30.540
Should this be something
00:18:31.620
that is looked at
00:18:32.400
to see what he did
00:18:33.380
while he was president?
00:18:34.240
Don't you find it
00:18:38.200
very interesting
00:18:39.140
that they
00:18:39.900
attempted
00:18:41.400
to prosecute
00:18:42.560
the president
00:18:43.080
for having documents
00:18:44.780
in the most secure place
00:18:45.920
in the world
00:18:46.320
other than the White House
00:18:47.200
Mar-a-Laga,
00:18:48.200
and he had the security
00:18:49.540
clearance to take them,
00:18:51.000
yet Joe Biden,
00:18:51.940
who had no security
00:18:53.380
clearance to take them
00:18:54.560
at the time,
00:18:55.620
had them in his garage
00:18:56.840
with his drug addict son
00:18:58.320
going in and out
00:18:59.600
of his garage,
00:19:01.080
yet what did they say
00:19:01.880
about him?
00:19:02.640
Too old to prosecute.
00:19:03.640
Frail,
00:19:04.480
old man.
00:19:06.600
But listen,
00:19:08.320
Donald Trump and I
00:19:09.440
have not talked
00:19:10.860
about that at all.
00:19:12.400
This is not about targeting.
00:19:13.820
This is what they do to us.
00:19:15.320
This is not about targeting.
00:19:17.020
This is not about weaponization.
00:19:19.060
This is about
00:19:19.780
keeping America safe
00:19:21.140
and going forward
00:19:22.400
and prosecuting
00:19:23.700
violent criminals.
00:19:24.940
If you committed a crime
00:19:26.140
in this country,
00:19:27.640
no one is above the law.
00:19:29.140
I will say that.
00:19:29.960
No one is above the law.
00:19:33.640
So,
00:19:34.500
Pam,
00:19:35.280
the media are going crazy
00:19:37.000
about New York Mayor
00:19:38.980
Eric Adams
00:19:39.800
and the charges
00:19:40.740
that were dismissed
00:19:41.420
against him.
00:19:42.060
So glad you brought that up.
00:19:43.440
Tell us what the story is,
00:19:45.700
what happened there,
00:19:46.980
and why were the charges
00:19:47.880
dismissed?
00:19:48.440
Sure.
00:19:49.040
And Amel,
00:19:49.860
who has done
00:19:50.400
an incredible job,
00:19:51.920
he worked on this case,
00:19:53.440
he looked at this case.
00:19:54.900
It was an incredibly
00:19:56.740
weak case
00:19:58.100
filed to make
00:19:59.980
deportation harder.
00:20:02.640
That's why they did it.
00:20:03.840
They took one of the
00:20:04.740
biggest mayors
00:20:05.420
in the country
00:20:06.040
off the playing field
00:20:07.760
in order
00:20:09.260
to
00:20:10.260
protect
00:20:11.780
their sanctuary city.
00:20:13.760
This case,
00:20:14.540
it was so incredibly weak.
00:20:16.120
It was about
00:20:16.600
increases in
00:20:17.940
airline tickets,
00:20:19.100
upgrades in airline tickets
00:20:20.520
in his official capacity
00:20:21.900
without getting into
00:20:23.160
all the details
00:20:23.800
of the fact.
00:20:24.480
I don't even think
00:20:25.020
it could survive a verdict.
00:20:26.780
Excuse me.
00:20:27.860
Incredibly weak case.
00:20:29.040
That is the
00:20:30.360
weaponization
00:20:31.140
of government.
00:20:32.460
That's lawfare.
00:20:33.460
That's lawfare.
00:20:34.880
When you're filing
00:20:35.620
cases like that
00:20:36.700
to keep someone
00:20:38.280
who criticized
00:20:39.340
Joe Biden,
00:20:40.120
who said
00:20:40.840
they took away
00:20:41.620
a security clearance
00:20:42.720
so he could not
00:20:44.260
get the details,
00:20:45.460
so he could not
00:20:46.480
help enforce
00:20:47.480
the deportation efforts
00:20:48.920
in New York.
00:20:49.820
And you know,
00:20:50.300
these people are
00:20:51.040
going after him.
00:20:52.760
Ride a subway
00:20:53.560
in New York.
00:20:54.260
It's not safe.
00:20:55.800
Violent crime
00:20:56.760
is at an all-time high,
00:20:58.240
and that's what
00:20:59.240
they're doing.
00:21:00.260
So it's not about
00:21:01.080
weaponization.
00:21:01.760
It's about ending
00:21:02.620
their weaponization
00:21:03.920
of the government
00:21:05.100
and fighting violent crime
00:21:06.560
and enabling
00:21:07.660
cities like New York
00:21:09.260
and mayors
00:21:10.880
like Eric Adams
00:21:12.000
to enforce
00:21:13.300
Donald Trump's
00:21:14.660
immigration policies.
00:21:15.920
I want to ask you
00:21:20.860
and go back to
00:21:21.500
something you said
00:21:21.900
a moment ago.
00:21:22.860
We were talking
00:21:23.520
about cartels,
00:21:24.440
and they have been
00:21:25.260
able to set up networks,
00:21:26.600
and we see this
00:21:27.400
coming up now
00:21:28.300
more often.
00:21:29.280
We're controlling
00:21:30.120
states and cities
00:21:31.200
and states
00:21:31.760
and the entire flow,
00:21:33.140
and they've been
00:21:33.880
able to do this
00:21:34.600
and set it up
00:21:35.200
without having to worry
00:21:36.280
that anyone's
00:21:36.880
going to stop them.
00:21:38.080
We're seeing this
00:21:39.020
not on border states,
00:21:40.320
but all over the country,
00:21:41.800
this network.
00:21:43.300
At what point
00:21:44.220
do we get to start
00:21:45.200
dismantling that?
00:21:46.640
How long does that take?
00:21:47.940
How much time
00:21:49.320
is that going to take?
00:21:50.120
Because they've been here
00:21:50.940
for quite some time
00:21:51.800
with the last administration.
00:21:53.180
There's a lot
00:21:53.840
I can't talk about now,
00:21:55.540
but very publicly,
00:21:57.960
I think you've seen
00:21:58.840
a lot happen.
00:21:59.920
A lot is happening
00:22:00.720
every day.
00:22:02.180
Our great men and women
00:22:03.260
in law enforcement
00:22:04.020
are out there.
00:22:04.740
It's a joint effort
00:22:05.420
with our office
00:22:06.180
and with Christy Noem,
00:22:07.460
and again,
00:22:08.200
we all work so well together,
00:22:11.140
whether it's Mike Waltz.
00:22:13.280
Y'all are friends.
00:22:14.100
I think people
00:22:14.780
don't understand this.
00:22:15.580
This is a group
00:22:16.500
in this administration,
00:22:17.800
and you and I
00:22:18.180
have talked about this
00:22:18.860
on the show.
00:22:19.940
You guys are friends.
00:22:21.220
Y'all know each other
00:22:22.160
before you got here.
00:22:23.620
How important
00:22:24.300
are those relationships
00:22:25.160
that you say,
00:22:25.800
hey, I trust you.
00:22:28.060
I trust you.
00:22:29.220
I trust you.
00:22:30.040
I got your back.
00:22:30.860
Let's go to work.
00:22:31.540
Vital and crucial.
00:22:33.260
Mike Waltz and Christy,
00:22:34.560
we're on the phone
00:22:35.360
with each other
00:22:35.920
all the time.
00:22:37.760
To change the topic
00:22:38.520
just a little bit,
00:22:39.440
just to give you
00:22:40.120
an example,
00:22:41.040
Lee Zeldin,
00:22:41.600
a dear friend of mine.
00:22:42.400
Great guy.
00:22:42.760
On President's Day.
00:22:43.600
Running the EPA now.
00:22:45.340
EPA, Lee Zeldin,
00:22:46.520
great administrator of EPA.
00:22:47.700
I'm on the phone
00:22:48.760
hours with Scott Besson,
00:22:51.060
our Secretary of Treasury,
00:22:52.180
and Lee Zeldin.
00:22:53.440
And, you know,
00:22:54.260
we've seen,
00:22:54.940
thanks to Elon Musk,
00:22:55.980
my buddy's great work.
00:22:57.440
Yep.
00:22:57.940
And it's been reported.
00:22:59.340
Look what they're doing
00:23:00.180
at EPA.
00:23:00.680
I'm changing the subject
00:23:01.580
a little bit,
00:23:02.120
but they're giving out
00:23:04.000
billions of dollars
00:23:06.060
after Joe Biden
00:23:08.080
lost the election
00:23:09.080
trying to push
00:23:10.260
this money
00:23:10.720
out the door.
00:23:12.200
Virtually shoveling
00:23:13.280
cash out the windows.
00:23:15.040
As I said,
00:23:15.740
gold bars.
00:23:16.480
Yeah.
00:23:16.700
Let's throw all the
00:23:17.500
gold bars off the ship.
00:23:18.940
Yep.
00:23:19.340
And we're stopping them.
00:23:20.440
We're stopping them
00:23:21.200
in real time.
00:23:22.280
We're going after them.
00:23:24.020
But it's because
00:23:25.200
we all pick up the phone
00:23:26.400
and we talk directly
00:23:27.560
to each other.
00:23:28.480
So we're able
00:23:29.440
to work together,
00:23:30.540
you know,
00:23:30.860
talk to Marco Rubio
00:23:31.840
and look at the men
00:23:32.960
like Steve Whitcoff
00:23:34.300
out there,
00:23:34.820
Rick Grinnell,
00:23:35.520
what they're doing
00:23:36.760
working with Marco
00:23:37.700
and Mike Walton,
00:23:39.220
all the great,
00:23:39.940
the people that they're
00:23:41.020
saving around the world.
00:23:42.520
And that's thanks
00:23:43.380
to one man,
00:23:44.140
Donald Trump.
00:23:45.200
He put all of us
00:23:46.140
in these positions
00:23:46.960
because he believes
00:23:48.120
that I was trust us.
00:23:49.220
The consistent thread
00:23:50.860
of the cabinet nominees
00:23:52.400
is that you're all
00:23:54.700
change agents.
00:23:55.960
You all came in
00:23:56.800
with a mission
00:23:57.560
and it is,
00:23:58.820
listen,
00:23:59.160
there has never been
00:24:00.020
a first month
00:24:00.900
of any presidency
00:24:01.780
in the history
00:24:02.500
of the United States
00:24:03.420
of America
00:24:04.020
like the last 30 days.
00:24:06.720
That's right.
00:24:09.600
Amen.
00:24:10.680
And I'll tell you,
00:24:11.820
I have had great joy
00:24:13.740
turning to my Democrat
00:24:15.640
colleagues in the Senate
00:24:16.760
and just deadpanning,
00:24:18.380
well,
00:24:19.020
three years
00:24:20.520
and 11 months to go.
00:24:23.420
And they literally
00:24:24.540
start twitching.
00:24:25.960
Like,
00:24:26.380
they have facial tics
00:24:28.740
that they cannot suppress.
00:24:30.900
Yeah.
00:24:31.280
But,
00:24:31.500
all right,
00:24:31.780
Pam,
00:24:32.220
one of the things
00:24:33.320
that people like
00:24:34.660
about this podcast
00:24:35.420
that we try to do
00:24:36.320
is we try to bring people
00:24:38.420
behind the scenes
00:24:39.620
to actually understand
00:24:41.180
what's going on
00:24:42.240
behind closed doors.
00:24:43.740
So,
00:24:44.020
tell us about
00:24:44.980
your first day
00:24:47.420
as Attorney General.
00:24:48.420
You're confirmed
00:24:49.120
and like day one
00:24:51.220
when you get sworn in,
00:24:52.980
just walk everyone
00:24:53.880
through what
00:24:54.480
day one
00:24:55.340
of being Attorney General
00:24:56.280
of the United States
00:24:56.980
is like.
00:24:57.380
you go non-stop,
00:25:00.540
and I jokingly said
00:25:01.520
it felt like 15 years
00:25:02.880
because you're working
00:25:04.120
seven days a week
00:25:05.180
non-stop,
00:25:06.020
and we're all working
00:25:07.240
with each other.
00:25:08.200
Everything we do,
00:25:09.920
it overlaps,
00:25:10.960
and especially with
00:25:11.660
Department of Justice,
00:25:12.700
especially too,
00:25:13.300
with all this money
00:25:13.940
going out,
00:25:14.380
the USAID,
00:25:15.260
all of these agencies,
00:25:16.400
and we're going to be
00:25:17.220
helping all these agencies,
00:25:18.420
but you just hit the ground
00:25:21.260
running literally,
00:25:23.220
and don't look back.
00:25:25.480
I don't look at
00:25:26.300
what time of day it is.
00:25:27.600
I don't think I've slept
00:25:28.740
in 15 days,
00:25:29.980
but you don't want to,
00:25:31.300
and then when you find out
00:25:33.340
about this human trafficking ring
00:25:35.540
that was just broken up,
00:25:36.700
it's just,
00:25:37.240
that's why we're all doing
00:25:38.800
what we're doing,
00:25:40.300
and you just keep
00:25:41.600
going forward,
00:25:42.660
and our directive,
00:25:44.180
our directive from our boss
00:25:46.500
is so easy,
00:25:48.020
especially on my end,
00:25:49.320
make America safe,
00:25:51.200
and so you just,
00:25:52.160
you just don't,
00:25:53.420
Senator,
00:25:54.240
you don't even,
00:25:55.040
my biggest,
00:25:55.900
my hardest thing now
00:25:56.620
is I forget to eat.
00:25:57.540
You forget what time it is,
00:25:58.840
and it's six o'clock at night,
00:26:00.220
and I'm like,
00:26:00.400
why do I have a headache?
00:26:01.180
Because I haven't eaten today,
00:26:02.260
but you're going non-stop,
00:26:03.880
and it's not me,
00:26:05.320
it's an entire team.
00:26:06.840
I've got Chad Mizell,
00:26:07.920
I've got Emil,
00:26:08.800
I've got Todd Blanchett,
00:26:09.740
thank goodness coming in,
00:26:10.540
and we've got Cash Patel now,
00:26:12.140
so they better look out.
00:26:15.180
How nice is it
00:26:16.800
to have a boss
00:26:18.740
by the guy,
00:26:19.600
a guy by the name
00:26:20.300
of Donald J. Trump,
00:26:21.620
who just lets you do your job?
00:26:23.260
Exactly.
00:26:23.980
I mean,
00:26:24.560
there's a lot of presidents
00:26:25.860
in the past
00:26:26.440
that have really tried
00:26:27.380
to keep their thumb on people.
00:26:28.760
It seems like he's saying,
00:26:30.660
go,
00:26:31.080
and go get it done,
00:26:32.840
and call me when you need me.
00:26:34.120
He has trusted all of us,
00:26:36.060
and all of our various capacities,
00:26:38.460
and all the different roles we have,
00:26:40.600
whether it's education,
00:26:41.740
or agriculture,
00:26:43.760
you know,
00:26:44.020
all the cabinet,
00:26:45.020
labor,
00:26:45.880
all of the different cabinet secretaries,
00:26:48.120
just to go out
00:26:49.200
and do the best we can,
00:26:50.740
and, you know,
00:26:51.980
we want to make
00:26:52.860
all of you proud,
00:26:54.720
and we want to fulfill
00:26:56.420
his directive
00:26:57.300
to make our country great.
00:26:58.720
That man sure didn't need that job.
00:27:00.820
He's a good friend of mine,
00:27:02.080
and I love,
00:27:02.880
during my confirmation hearing,
00:27:04.400
when they try,
00:27:05.040
they get on me
00:27:05.900
because they say,
00:27:06.520
I'm friends with Donald Trump.
00:27:07.740
Yes,
00:27:08.080
I'm very,
00:27:08.960
no,
00:27:09.280
I'm not friends with him.
00:27:10.020
I'm good friends with him,
00:27:11.180
and I'm very proud
00:27:11.940
to work for him.
00:27:13.440
You know,
00:27:18.600
when you look at
00:27:19.420
weaponization
00:27:20.220
and politicization,
00:27:21.980
part of it is using it
00:27:23.380
to attack
00:27:23.900
your political opponents,
00:27:24.840
and we've seen
00:27:25.420
four years of that
00:27:26.440
under Joe Biden.
00:27:27.560
Yeah.
00:27:28.300
Another part of it
00:27:29.540
is turning the other way
00:27:31.440
at your political allies
00:27:32.720
and refusing
00:27:33.700
to enforce the law
00:27:34.880
against them,
00:27:35.500
and I think
00:27:35.840
one of the most
00:27:36.400
egregious examples
00:27:37.640
we've seen
00:27:38.780
over the last two years
00:27:40.220
is the rising anti-Semitism
00:27:42.400
on college campuses.
00:27:43.700
Amen.
00:27:44.280
The violent protesters
00:27:46.240
and rioters,
00:27:47.480
many of whom
00:27:48.180
are not students,
00:27:49.120
are not affiliated
00:27:49.920
with the universities,
00:27:50.920
and they are
00:27:51.980
threatening students.
00:27:53.560
You look at
00:27:54.040
Columbia University,
00:27:55.200
the Orthodox rabbi
00:27:56.300
there sent out
00:27:57.120
an email
00:27:57.860
to the Jewish students
00:27:58.940
on campus
00:27:59.660
and said,
00:28:00.720
do not come to campus
00:28:02.720
because the university
00:28:04.560
cannot and will not
00:28:06.140
keep you safe.
00:28:08.040
And the Biden
00:28:08.800
Justice Department
00:28:09.900
did nothing.
00:28:11.540
They investigated nobody,
00:28:13.520
they didn't follow
00:28:14.200
the money,
00:28:15.080
they didn't indict anyone,
00:28:16.540
they didn't prosecute anyone,
00:28:18.060
and they did not enforce
00:28:20.160
Title VI
00:28:20.880
of the civil rights laws
00:28:22.160
which say
00:28:23.120
that if you are
00:28:24.680
tolerating harassment
00:28:25.960
on the basis
00:28:26.760
of ethnicity
00:28:28.260
or religion
00:28:29.020
that you will have
00:28:30.120
your federal funds
00:28:30.940
cut off.
00:28:32.340
How is the Department
00:28:33.600
of Justice
00:28:34.260
different today
00:28:36.140
and what will
00:28:38.300
your approach
00:28:39.100
be to anti-Semitism
00:28:40.720
and threats
00:28:41.440
of violence
00:28:42.060
directed against
00:28:43.280
Jewish students
00:28:43.980
on campus
00:28:44.580
or any other
00:28:45.200
students on campus?
00:28:46.040
We have an October
00:28:47.220
7th task force
00:28:48.580
that we started
00:28:49.720
and we will
00:28:50.820
protect you.
00:28:51.660
When I was just
00:28:52.520
a citizen
00:28:53.100
before I had this job,
00:28:54.320
what you said,
00:28:54.840
I'm watching these,
00:28:56.480
these aren't
00:28:56.880
peaceful protests,
00:28:57.960
we all believe
00:28:58.700
in peaceful protests.
00:28:59.720
Oh, I'm sorry,
00:29:01.300
unless you're a liberal
00:29:02.580
and you don't want
00:29:03.860
a parent to quietly pray
00:29:06.060
outside an abortion clinic
00:29:07.700
or you're a Catholic
00:29:09.400
or a parent at a school board,
00:29:12.000
they're going to call you
00:29:12.500
a domestic terrorist.
00:29:13.560
I'm screaming at my TV
00:29:16.400
watching these
00:29:17.160
violent protests
00:29:18.300
since October 7th,
00:29:20.940
you're watching this happen
00:29:22.000
and all of our students
00:29:23.800
deserve to be saved.
00:29:25.240
And first of all,
00:29:25.820
these students
00:29:26.900
who are here on visas
00:29:28.300
who are threatening
00:29:30.020
our American students
00:29:31.680
need to be kicked out
00:29:33.000
of this country.
00:29:34.000
Amen.
00:29:47.220
It is refreshingly simple
00:29:49.980
to have an attorney general
00:29:52.060
who has the approach
00:29:53.400
that you're going to
00:29:54.480
follow the law
00:29:55.540
and enforce the law.
00:29:56.980
And that sadly
00:29:58.340
has been missing
00:29:59.480
for the last four years.
00:30:02.540
It's pretty basic,
00:30:03.700
isn't it?
00:30:04.600
It should not be complicated.
00:30:09.940
Let me ask you,
00:30:11.940
what keeps you up at night?
00:30:13.140
What scares you
00:30:14.300
in the first two weeks
00:30:15.780
of this job?
00:30:17.780
Pretty much everything.
00:30:19.460
I don't sleep at night anymore.
00:30:22.280
Of course,
00:30:23.120
everything we talked about,
00:30:24.220
the drugs,
00:30:24.760
the cartels,
00:30:25.620
the great,
00:30:26.760
maybe I'll get a little sleep
00:30:27.800
tonight based on the arrests
00:30:29.040
that were just made,
00:30:29.960
the children that are being trafficked,
00:30:32.260
things that have been
00:30:33.020
so personal to me
00:30:34.100
since I was a state prosecutor
00:30:35.360
and then since I was
00:30:36.180
state attorney general.
00:30:37.420
Now you just get to help people
00:30:38.860
on a bigger level,
00:30:39.920
which is pretty,
00:30:40.580
pretty cool
00:30:41.300
to get to do that.
00:30:42.600
But most recently,
00:30:44.320
it's really been
00:30:45.960
what Elon
00:30:47.520
has been uncovering.
00:30:49.540
And the USA,
00:30:51.340
the waste at EPA,
00:30:53.880
this money,
00:30:55.880
trillions of dollars,
00:30:57.660
they believe,
00:30:58.220
just being handed out,
00:31:00.160
which is most likely
00:31:01.440
making a round trip
00:31:02.440
ticket and going
00:31:04.460
to terrorist organizations.
00:31:05.540
And you are on the front line
00:31:07.140
of defending the president
00:31:08.600
and Elon Musk and Doge
00:31:10.900
and all the effort
00:31:11.580
they're doing.
00:31:12.320
And every day,
00:31:14.200
we are seeing
00:31:14.900
Democrat attorneys general
00:31:16.320
and Democrat interest groups
00:31:17.880
suing the president,
00:31:19.460
suing Elon Musk,
00:31:20.600
suing the federal government
00:31:21.700
and the Department of Justice
00:31:23.040
is on the front lines.
00:31:24.140
And sadly,
00:31:24.760
we're seeing
00:31:26.480
left-wing activist judges,
00:31:28.360
individual district court judges,
00:31:31.840
issuing nationwide injunctions.
00:31:35.360
Tell us about
00:31:36.360
what it's like
00:31:37.340
defending against
00:31:38.160
those lawsuits.
00:31:39.040
And give us your thoughts
00:31:39.900
on the authority
00:31:41.060
of one radical district judge
00:31:43.920
to try to run
00:31:45.260
the executive branch
00:31:46.400
and issue a nationwide injunction.
00:31:48.160
Two words.
00:31:48.880
We're winning.
00:31:50.700
But, yeah,
00:31:51.920
so you've got one...
00:31:53.440
I like that answer.
00:31:54.320
One unelected district judge
00:31:56.880
trying to tell
00:31:58.300
President Trump,
00:31:59.940
who was elected
00:32:01.280
overwhelmingly
00:32:02.000
by the American people,
00:32:03.420
where federal funds can go.
00:32:06.880
We're winning.
00:32:07.860
Even in liberal courts,
00:32:09.200
by the way,
00:32:09.880
Senator,
00:32:10.920
we're winning.
00:32:12.080
And if not,
00:32:13.120
we're going to go
00:32:13.580
all the way
00:32:14.040
to the Supreme Court
00:32:15.000
and keep winning.
00:32:17.540
Well, Pam,
00:32:18.260
let me say,
00:32:18.740
you and I have been friends
00:32:19.860
a long time.
00:32:20.560
A long time.
00:32:21.280
I am thrilled
00:32:22.340
with the job you're doing.
00:32:23.660
I'm thrilled.
00:32:24.160
I was thrilled
00:32:24.680
when the president
00:32:25.240
announced your nomination.
00:32:27.100
And let me say,
00:32:28.140
on behalf of 31 million Texans
00:32:31.180
and Americans
00:32:31.680
across this country,
00:32:33.000
thank you.
00:32:33.960
Thank you for stepping forward
00:32:35.720
and answering the call.
00:32:37.660
thank you for pouring your heart
00:32:42.600
into defending this nation,
00:32:45.680
into keeping my kids safe,
00:32:47.740
keeping Ben's kids safe,
00:32:49.060
keeping all of our kids safe.
00:32:50.820
And thank you for remaining faithful
00:32:52.940
to the Constitution
00:32:53.800
and the Bill of Rights
00:32:55.040
and restoring integrity
00:32:56.860
to the Department of Justice.
00:32:58.300
It is desperately needed
00:32:59.720
and you're doing a hell of a job.
00:33:01.040
Thank you, my friend.
00:33:01.980
And thank you for fighting for us.
00:33:03.740
Thank you guys here
00:33:04.740
for being here as well.
00:33:06.500
Don't forget,
00:33:07.140
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00:33:07.820
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00:33:09.680
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00:33:10.920
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00:33:13.660
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